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In a message dated 10/20/2002 10:25:52 PM Pacific Standard Time,

Fishrchef@... writes:

> torn Meniscus

My oldest daughter had that. She had it scoped and was up and about nearly

the next day. I don't recall what all they did to fix it, I know they had

to remove a couple little pieces that were in the way and do something to the

tear. It was more than they expected initially, but she did fine. She had

crutches for a few days, but she recovered quickly. She has not had any knee

problems since and the surgery was ten years ago.

K

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Thanks Jeanine!

Terri

-- Knee surgery

Terri,

Good luck with your surgery. Don't forget, it's time for you to be

waited on for a change.

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Dear a,

I hope all goes well with Norman's surgery. We will be praying for him.

Be well, leslie

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Hi a,

Norman will be remembered in my prayers. the first couple

of days will be difficult, then possibly quite a lot of pain for

a few weeks. (not so bad if he can tolerate pain meds) but,

within say 3 months, he will be very happy with his new knee.

These are only guess-ti-ments, because everyone responds

differently even to knee replacements. We know one man

who had both knees replaced at the same time. He never

had pain after surgery, and walked with no crutches or

cane within a month. Tell Norman to use the crutches

(or walker) then the cane until he *knows* it's okay

to go it on his own. Not good to fall down due to wanting

to be independent too soon.

Your friend, Tricia

p.s. Be prepared for some extra stress for you.

-- Knee Surgery

Please remember to keep Norman in your prayers. He has his knee replacement

surgery tomorrow. I find it ironic that I am the one with Stills but he is

the one having his knee replaced.

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Dear a,

Best wishes for Norman and prayers also.

xxoo

Carmen

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Hey! Glad to hear your knee is feeling so much better. Good luck with the

other one.

Ann

knee surgery

To All,

I saw my orthopedic doc today for my first post-op. He remarked how well the

knee is doing. I asked him how soon he could do the other one. He asked how

soon I wanted it done. I told him the sooner the better, or wait until next

winter, which is something I don't think will work. He said normally he won't

do a lateral release on a second knee for at least two months (it's been two

weeks), but since my right knee is doing so well, he would do the second knee

right away. The surgery is tentatively set for Monday.

Mike

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Mike,

Are you off crutches yet? I've had 7 knee surgeries... The 8th will be May

4th. I highly recommend that you allow for proper healing before going

through with the other knee. You will have to rely on an unstable painful

knee to support most of your body weight. IMHO, It seems like a lose-lose

situation to me.

Sorry

Donna

He said normally he won't do a lateral release on a second knee for at least

two months (it's been two weeks), but since my right knee is doing so well,

he would do the second knee right away. The surgery is tentatively set for

Monday.

>

>Mike

>

>

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I hate to be discouraging, but I agree. I think it's much better to wait until

the just-fixed knee is completely healed before you put new stress on it by

having the other knee operated on. . I can certainly understand your eagerness

to have the other knee done right away, esp. since the one you just had done is

doing so well, and you have an itinerary problem. When I had my knee problem

before my '95 surgery (a LR), I could hardly walk, and I had some surgery done

on the opposite foot, putting more demand on the bad leg. Boy -- I would never

do that again!!

Ann

RE: knee surgery

Mike,

Are you off crutches yet? I've had 7 knee surgeries... The 8th will be May

4th. I highly recommend that you allow for proper healing before going

through with the other knee. You will have to rely on an unstable painful

knee to support most of your body weight. IMHO, It seems like a lose-lose

situation to me.

Sorry

Donna

He said normally he won't do a lateral release on a second knee for at least

two months (it's been two weeks), but since my right knee is doing so well,

he would do the second knee right away. The surgery is tentatively set for

Monday.

>

>Mike

>

>

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I very much appreciate the advice Donna and Ann, and know and appreciate

where you are coming from. For what it's worth, I was up and walking from

the moment I came out of recovery, and in fact walked several miles just

four days after surgery. I pushed myself very hard in personal exercises,

including deep knee bends with 5 pound ankle weights. This is something I

would never, or could never do with the unoperated knee. Is there any

assurance the other knee will be anywhere near as successful? Absolutely

not....but I have made up my mind to take my chances.

Thanks again

Mike

RE: knee surgery

>

>

> Mike,

>

> Are you off crutches yet? I've had 7 knee surgeries... The 8th will be

May

> 4th. I highly recommend that you allow for proper healing before going

> through with the other knee. You will have to rely on an unstable

painful

> knee to support most of your body weight. IMHO, It seems like a

lose-lose

> situation to me.

>

> Sorry

> Donna

>

>

> He said normally he won't do a lateral release on a second knee for at

least

> two months (it's been two weeks), but since my right knee is doing so

well,

> he would do the second knee right away. The surgery is tentatively set

for

> Monday.

> >

> >Mike

> >

> >

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Well, looks like you're in excellent condition in the operated leg. You go,

boy!! Good luck. Hope it works like the other one. If it does, you'll have a

party & invite us all, right?

Ann

RE: knee surgery

>

>

> Mike,

>

> Are you off crutches yet? I've had 7 knee surgeries... The 8th will be

May

> 4th. I highly recommend that you allow for proper healing before going

> through with the other knee. You will have to rely on an unstable

painful

> knee to support most of your body weight. IMHO, It seems like a

lose-lose

> situation to me.

>

> Sorry

> Donna

>

>

> He said normally he won't do a lateral release on a second knee for at

least

> two months (it's been two weeks), but since my right knee is doing so

well,

> he would do the second knee right away. The surgery is tentatively set

for

> Monday.

> >

> >Mike

> >

> >

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RE: knee surgery

> >

> >

> > Mike,

> >

> > Are you off crutches yet? I've had 7 knee surgeries... The 8th

will be

> May

> > 4th. I highly recommend that you allow for proper healing before

going

> > through with the other knee. You will have to rely on an unstable

> painful

> > knee to support most of your body weight. IMHO, It seems like a

> lose-lose

> > situation to me.

> >

> > Sorry

> > Donna

> >

> >

> > He said normally he won't do a lateral release on a second knee for

at

> least

> > two months (it's been two weeks), but since my right knee is doing

so

> well,

> > he would do the second knee right away. The surgery is tentatively

set

> for

> > Monday.

> > >

> > >Mike

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Those are questions you should go over thoroughly with your doctor. With

the release of pressure, I walked 2 miles the second day after surgery, then

iced completely. I understand my results are better than most, but it

sounds to me like 4 weeks on crutches is a bit extreme.

Mike

MT

Knee Surgery

I was wondering if anyone has had surgery to smooth out their knee cap

and a lateral release? I am a ballet dancer who is having the surger

done in June and I was wondering how long it will take until I can start

PT and dancing again. My doctor told me that I will be on cruches for 4

weeks. Any Advice would be nice..

Thanks

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Yeah, I had both. But 2 separate operations. In the first, I had patellar pain

& got the lat. release. It worked great. I was even able to run after I

recovered (had never run before). But later I developed chondromalacia, and I

now think that scar tissue from the LR is pulling the kneecap laterally and up &

that's why it rubs on the femur. If I use knee tape I'm pretty OK, although I

have enough damage now (my second operation (2001) was to remove part of a torn

meniscus and he found the CP spots & " smoothed " them down & removed a plica.

The smoothing didn't help the CP. Sorry. I've come to believe that a person

only gets CP if something is pulling the kneecap out of the trochlea, but it can

take a long time to find out what that is. Only my PT and I believe the cause

of mine is scar tissue. (Some docs cut part of the vastus lateralis when they

do a LR -- you can ask your doc to NOT do that. Any place that gets cut will

form scar tissue, and it doesn't stretch well, and even shrinks.)

Ann

Knee Surgery

I was wondering if anyone has had surgery to smooth out their knee cap

and a lateral release? I am a ballet dancer who is having the surger

done in June and I was wondering how long it will take until I can start

PT and dancing again. My doctor told me that I will be on cruches for 4

weeks. Any Advice would be nice..

Thanks

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Well, I survived the surgery Monday, so we will see how well the

recovery goes. I am sore but able to move about!

Debbie

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Tara:

Good luck on the surgery. I know that the replacement parts have a limited

lifespan , but I have never understood why we (and I say " we " because I am a

medical professional, too) use age as " the " determining factor when trying to

decide whether to do something for someone. Nobody knows how long we have on

this planet, so it is rather pompous to think we know that a person's artificial

part will wear out too soon if we replace it now rather than 10 years from now.

There is much to be said for quality of life, not just quantity.

I have a good friend who had a TKR done 3 or 4 years ago, and I think he was

less than 50 then. He is an avid cyclist, and, while he may wear out his new

knee in his lifetime, especially being a cyclist, I am sure he would not give

back any of those years, or regret any of the miles he has ridden. For him,

that is quality of life, and he could not have continued cycling without the

TKR.

If there is anything positive in your waiting four years, it is that the state

of the art in knee replacement has improved by leaps and bounds in those four

years, and the knee replacement you get now should be superior to the one you

would have received four years ago. That being said, when it needs to be done,

it needs to be done.

Keep us posted,

Joe Bolan

the bolanbiker

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Tara,

I would be very leary of a doctor who would even suggest a patellectomy today.

I would get a second opinion. Just my two cents. I wouldn't necessarily be

afraid of a patellefemoral replacement if it is your only option.

Mike

MT

Knee surgery

Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

continue to research and make a decision.

Tara

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Spoke to two other doctors already said the same thing. It's either one of those

two things or live in the pain I'm in for another 15 years minimum.

On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Mike Bernhardt wrote:

> Tara,

>

> I would be very leary of a doctor who would even suggest a patellectomy today.

I would get a second opinion. Just my two cents. I wouldn't necessarily be

afraid of a patellefemoral replacement if it is your only option.

>

> Mike

> MT

> Knee surgery

>

> Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

> any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

> the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

> decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

> one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

> was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

> smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

> have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

> already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

> do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

> continue to research and make a decision.

>

> Tara

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tara,

From what I have read, there is nothing good about a patellectomy and I to

am leary of any surgeon that would even suggest it as a possibility. Unless

he really never intended to do a patellectomy in the first place.

Don

On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Tara Gandy-Sanford <try2livehealthy@...

> wrote:

> Spoke to two other doctors already said the same thing. It's either one of

> those two things or live in the pain I'm in for another 15 years minimum.

>

>

> On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Mike Bernhardt wrote:

>

> > Tara,

> >

> > I would be very leary of a doctor who would even suggest a patellectomy

> today. I would get a second opinion. Just my two cents. I wouldn't

> necessarily be afraid of a patellefemoral replacement if it is your only

> option.

> >

> > Mike

> > MT

> > Knee surgery

> >

> > Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

> > any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

> > the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

> > decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

> > one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

> > was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

> > smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

> > have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

> > already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

> > do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

> > continue to research and make a decision.

> >

> > Tara

> >

> >

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I have just heard some real nightmares about patellectomies. If they did a

patellectomy, what would be their solution in 15 years? I have always

understood if you do a patellectomy, you take away your future solutions. I

am just asking. I have heard of a lot of people who had more pain after a

patellectomy than before. Your patellar tendon still needs to ride where

your trochlear grove is supposed to be. I understood a patellectomy was

what they did before they had reliable patellafemoral appliances.

I still would not be afraid of a patellafemoral replacement if you have run

out of other choices. I understand they do those much more often in Europe

than the US, and at an earlier age if necessary. If I were you, this would

be my only choice, but you have to make your own decision.

Mike

MT

Knee surgery

>>

>> Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

>> any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

>> the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

>> decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

>> one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

>> was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

>> smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

>> have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

>> already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

>> do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

>> continue to research and make a decision.

>>

>> Tara

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Well my doctor likes to give me all the choices available so I can research

them. I know someone who had a bi-lateral patellectomy and had no issues for 30

years but when she needed a TKR no doctor would give her one. And so far the

from what I read I will probably do the replacement but he wanted me to know my

options. Well in 15 years the other doctors said they might do a TKR but they

wouldn't do one before then.

On Jan 22, 2010, at 8:06 AM, Mike Bernhardt wrote:

> I have just heard some real nightmares about patellectomies. If they did a

> patellectomy, what would be their solution in 15 years? I have always

> understood if you do a patellectomy, you take away your future solutions. I

> am just asking. I have heard of a lot of people who had more pain after a

> patellectomy than before. Your patellar tendon still needs to ride where

> your trochlear grove is supposed to be. I understood a patellectomy was

> what they did before they had reliable patellafemoral appliances.

>

> I still would not be afraid of a patellafemoral replacement if you have run

> out of other choices. I understand they do those much more often in Europe

> than the US, and at an earlier age if necessary. If I were you, this would

> be my only choice, but you have to make your own decision.

>

> Mike

> MT

>

> Knee surgery

> >>

> >> Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

> >> any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

> >> the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

> >> decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

> >> one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

> >> was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

> >> smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

> >> have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

> >> already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

> >> do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

> >> continue to research and make a decision.

> >>

> >> Tara

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

I am not leary about any doctor who would give me all my options and doesn't

make decisions for me. That is part of the problem why people can't manage their

own healthcare cause doctors are not honest with them and give them all the

information. Patients can only make informed decisions when given all the

information and research the information given. Patients rely to much on what

doctors say without doing their own research. And he would not give me an option

he had no intention of doing. He wants me to research my options and make an

informed decision. And based on what I have researched so far I will most likely

do the PFR but it will be my choice not the doctors. All he can do is make

recommendations.

On Jan 22, 2010, at 7:47 AM, Don Franck wrote:

> Tara,

>

> From what I have read, there is nothing good about a patellectomy and I to

> am leary of any surgeon that would even suggest it as a possibility. Unless

> he really never intended to do a patellectomy in the first place.

>

> Don

>

> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:57 AM, Tara Gandy-Sanford <try2livehealthy@...

> > wrote:

>

> > Spoke to two other doctors already said the same thing. It's either one of

> > those two things or live in the pain I'm in for another 15 years minimum.

> >

> >

> > On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:41 PM, Mike Bernhardt wrote:

> >

> > > Tara,

> > >

> > > I would be very leary of a doctor who would even suggest a patellectomy

> > today. I would get a second opinion. Just my two cents. I wouldn't

> > necessarily be afraid of a patellefemoral replacement if it is your only

> > option.

> > >

> > > Mike

> > > MT

> > > Knee surgery

> > >

> > > Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

> > > any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

> > > the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

> > > decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

> > > one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

> > > was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

> > > smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

> > > have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

> > > already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

> > > do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

> > > continue to research and make a decision.

> > >

> > > Tara

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

That was my point also. If you have a patellectomy and need a TKR later,

you can't get one. You have eliminated your choices. You can't get a TKR

without a patella, at least not this point in time. I wonder if your doctor

gave you the choice as to get the monkey off his back. Doctors really don't

want to implant appliances before the age of 50, but don't tell you how you

are supposed to live until you get to that age. You need to make a choice

that is best for you, not the medical " experts " . It goes without saying,

but I would mention to your doctor if you decide to get the PFR, to get one

that is easily upgraded to a TKR if necessary. You have a lot of potential

years ahead of you and you need to cover all your bases.

Mike

MT

Knee surgery

>> >>

>> >> Well everyone I had my knee surgery 2 weeks ago today. I am not having

>> >> any surgery pain. I just have the pain I had before the surgery. I saw

>> >> the doctor yesterday. He said no total knee is needed but I need to

>> >> decide on a patellefermoal replacement or patellectomy. I need to have

>> >> one of them. So I have been doing a lot of research since yesterday. I

>> >> was back at grade 3 again and my trochlear grove is gone (it is

>> >> smooth) which is why my knee cap keeps sliding in and out of place. I

>> >> have to make a decision over the next couple of month. I was in PT

>> >> already but he has increased it and has specific things he wants me to

>> >> do to build up my quad muscle before I have either surgery. So I will

>> >> continue to research and make a decision.

>> >>

>> >> Tara

>> >>

>> >>

[Guest guest]

My schedule date is Oct 27th. I have has my pre surgical and everything is

great. I will be in hosp for 4 days and maybe home. I havent yet decieded on

rehab.

did any of you have to take shots for a month for blood clots

[Guest guest]

Different surgeons follow different protocols. for me, it has just been

aspirin.

In a message dated 10/22/2011 9:57:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

lillaross@... writes:

I think it's SOP to take a blood thinner for several weeks after a joint

replacement. I took coumadin by pill, though I did a shot of something else

before I left the hospital. Then you're switched over to aspirin.

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I learned that I can only take daily aspirin for a few weeks before i begin to

bruise abnormally easily or develop what look like blood blister spots under my

skin.

L

>

> Different surgeons follow different protocols. for me, it has just been

> aspirin.

>

>

> In a message dated 10/22/2011 9:57:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> lillaross@... writes:

>

> I think it's SOP to take a blood thinner for several weeks after a joint

> replacement. I took coumadin by pill, though I did a shot of something else

> before I left the hospital. Then you're switched over to aspirin.

>

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