Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 I think they're trying to claim that their whey based product has glutathione precursors which are more effective in producing glutathione in the body than is glutathione itself in pill form. My last visit to the health food store, I found two kinds of whey products. On one hand, the big tubs of designer, isolated, ionized, special blahblahblah whey targeted mainly at body builders and selling for 30, 40, 50 bucks a tub, On the other, simple old whey powder tucked away in the dried foods bins along with the brewer's yeast and the shredded coconut and selling for about 3 bucks a pound. Is the latter just or almost as good? Anyone know? Are we witnessing another example of good old marketing hype in action here? Colin Yardley ----- Original Message ----- From: annhope1@... I looked all through the glutathione site and found contradicting info. Below is stated on their first page: http://www.dreamwater.net/biz/goodfortune1/glutathione.html <<ORAL GLUTATHIONE Although glutathione is commercially available in pill form or powder from a variety of companies it is not particularly helpful to the body in this form. A small amount of glutathione may make it into the bloodstream, but most is lost to the digestive process and cannot effectively raise intracellular glutathione levels. It may even lead to a possible decrease in blood glutathione.>> So what form of glutathione should one take? In their slide presentation I found this quote: <<After one month supplementation with a whey-based oral supplement..... pulmonary increased significantly and dramtically.>> It is a little early in the morn... did I miss something here? Terri L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Colin, Excerpts from Hutchison's Megabrain Power: Glutathione precursors may indeed be more effective than glutathione itself. (less than 1/2 glutathione gets past digestive tract) That is why I always recommend NAC for people wanting a glutathione supplement, because it not only gets past the stomach well, it gets past the BBB better than any other source. Besides being a potent detoxifier for the liver, glutathione is an antioxidant, reverses the effects of malignant cells on healthy ones, and there is research that shows it protects the liver from cancer. It protects the liver from most toxic substances, including alcohol, which is teribly important for alcoholics. The glutathione levels of aging cells are 20-34% lower than young cells, so it is an important supplement for anti-aging/longevity. It also increases blood flow AND oxygen to the brain, and protects the brain from alcojhol, tobacco & radiation. And, in a paper published in " Proceeding from the National Academy of Sciences, " researchers showed that both glutathione & NAC had powerful antiviral effects that can block up to 90% of the spread of the AIDS virus. The antiviral effect was directly related to dose. jim Colin Yardley wrote: > > I think they're trying to claim that their whey based product has glutathione precursors which are more effective in producing glutathione in the body than is glutathione itself in pill form. > > My last visit to the health food store, I found two kinds of whey products. On one hand, the big tubs of designer, isolated, ionized, special blahblahblah whey targeted mainly at body builders and selling for 30, 40, 50 bucks a tub, On the other, simple old whey powder tucked away in the dried foods bins along with the brewer's yeast and the shredded coconut and selling for about 3 bucks a pound. Is the latter just or almost as good? Anyone know? Are we witnessing another example of good old marketing hype in action here? > > Colin Yardley ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Jim Thanks for the info. I'm assuming NAC is N-Acetyl-Cysteine. Would you recommend taking it with/in place of glutathione? I seem to recall reading somewhere about other cofactors like B6 and B12 that are important to take with NAC. Also, is Cysteine a sulfur based amino acid? If so, it might be good to take with flax oil ala Budig's flax-sulfur bearing protein combo. cheers, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Lambert Glutathione precursors may indeed be more effective than glutathione itself. (less than 1/2 glutathione gets past digestive tract) That is why I always recommend NAC for people wanting a glutathione supplement, because it not only gets past the stomach well, it gets past the BBB better than any other source. And, in a paper published in " Proceeding from the National Academy of Sciences, " researchers showed that both glutathione & NAC had powerful antiviral effects that can block up to 90% of the spread of the AIDS virus. The antiviral effect was directly related to dose. jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Colin, Can't answer all your questions, but your suggestions sound good on their own legs. I take NAC with concentrace minerals in water & kelp & wheatgrass juice & raw tuna & colostrum & Phospholoba Q10 for my co-factors. In principle, I believe in natural sources. For instance, I like the idea of colostrum. But, that won't stop me from going back on the hGH injections when I can afford them again, because they are so powerful & have no downside when done properly under the current protocols. I believe only Nature knows what to put in our food, and we should prepare & eat it as close to the skills of 'pre-fire' women as possible. I say this to eliminate things like cooking from the abominations mankind heaps upon itself. But, I live in the 21st century. So, I accept temporary help from supplements, to assist in restoring my body to a perfection that can survive on food alone. But, only temporarily, albeit a long temp! Consequently, I take NAC for glutathione because it gets more past the BBB than any other source, since I take it for brain function, and I figure if I take the minerals, it will help my liver detox the nasties also. If I had whey handy, I would certainly take it too. jim Colin Yardley wrote: > > Jim > Thanks for the info. I'm assuming NAC is N-Acetyl-Cysteine. Would you recommend taking it with/in place of glutathione? I seem to recall reading somewhere about other cofactors like B6 and B12 that are important to take with NAC. > Also, is Cysteine a sulfur based amino acid? If so, it might be good to take with flax oil ala Budig's flax-sulfur bearing protein combo. > cheers, > Colin > ----- The TRUTH in 11 words: Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened! -- anon jlambert@... http://www.entrance.to/madscience http://www.entrance.to/poetry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 glutathione? So what form of glutathione should one take? In their slide presentation I found this quote: <<After one month supplementation with a whey-based oral supplement..... pulmonary increased significantly and dramtically.>> It is a little early in the morn... did I miss something here? Terri L. Hi Terri, I, myself, am trying to figure out this glutathoine thing, too Apparently, this whey thing is the way to go for cellural glutathione. But according to Duncan, " NAC is a glutathione precursor, but is not immediately absorbale like the cystine in the whey isolate is. Like glutathione, the NAC breaks down in the gut & must be oxidized to cystine before it works....If it works you will notice a difference in your health within several days to a couple of weeks. " So the better way to go would be with the whey. But it's possible to try the NAC and see if that will work. It seems like the NAC is the least expensive way to go. At least it's worth a try. Jim mentioned he takes it for brain function. Now I'm really interested in it. Still I think the whey is more effective. :-) Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Hi Terri; That would be Immunocal whey protein isolate. It's designed specifically to be a cystine donor to bring up glutathione levels. See below. Duncan Crow _______________________________________________________ Increase your antioxidant protection, immune system, detoxification by increasing cellular glutathione. With over 20,000 studies, it's the only food in the physician's desk reference and pharmacist's red book. Call 1888-830-4040 for FREE in-depth messages and Dr.'s testimonials. Call 1888-462-3397 and use ID#57023 to get Immunocal wholesale. www.immunotec.com ________________________________________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2001 Report Share Posted August 30, 2001 Hi Terri; That would be Immunocal whey protein isolate. It's designed specifically to be a cystine donor to bring up glutathione levels. See below. Duncan Crow _______________________________________________________ Increase your antioxidant protection, immune system, detoxification by increasing cellular glutathione. With over 20,000 studies, it's the only food in the physician's desk reference and pharmacist's red book. Call 1888-830-4040 for FREE in-depth messages and Dr.'s testimonials. Call 1888-462-3397 and use ID#57023 to get Immunocal wholesale. www.immunotec.com ________________________________________________________ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.264 / Virus Database: 136 - Release Date: 7/2/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2003 Report Share Posted June 16, 2003 Hi Penny. My experience is that I don't feel any kind of lift or extra energy immediately when I get IV glutathione. Over time I started feeling better and had more energy. After two or three months of 1,000 mg every week or so, I felt so good (relatively, of course) that I overdid it and crashed. It took me a long time to come out of the crash. It may be hard to attribute the improvements to glutathione if you've got a lot going on, as you do. In that case, I would suggest you get it regularly for say 2 or 3 months. Then, if you're not sure if it's helping, stop it and you will notice a loss of energy and increase in fatigue within a week or so. Tom > Hi all, > > I've received a couple of i.v. infusions of glutathione over the past > few days. Haven't noticed anything. Was just wondering if I should > feel any kind of effect? What have other people's experiences been? > Does it take time, or is it like some things where you feel the > effects rather quickly? > > penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Ooopss, forgot the link! www.immunocal.com TIA, jeanie t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 > > Ooopss, forgot the link! www.immunocal.com > TIA, > jeanie t. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 The beaulife product contains glutathione, which as we know does not increase glutathione in the cells at all. It also contains ALA, which is used to recycle spent glutathione but does not provide precusors for fresh glutathione as it is excreted with toxins. You still need glutathione precursors even if you take ALA. Duncan > > > > Ooopss, forgot the link! www.immunocal.com > > TIA, > > jeanie t. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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