Guest guest Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 The RBC glutathione test would give a good baseline for where your glutathione levels are now. Also, if you never noticed in the archives NONdenatured whey is superior to UNdenatured whey in providing benefits. <lmonrovia@...> wrote: > > I am really conflicted about this. Been taking it for months 6 scoops a > day.. hard to say what the effect is. > > Would a RBC glutathione test tell me if it is actually building glut, > or woudl the fact that I am on the yasko program muddy the waters too > much? > > L. > > > > > > > I've been taking nondenatured whey for about 5 months now, after > > reading about it on this board. When I first started taking it, > > increasing from 4 grams to 8 grams knocked me flat for a full day with > > a strong herx reaction. From that I infer that it's having an effect > >. > > > > Marcia on > > in Salem, Massachusetts > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 Hi Rivka! If you search the archives, you'll find various posts, including advice to me when I asked the same questions about 8 months ago. Here's my experience, for what it's worth. I believe you do need to take it on an empty stomach for best effect. I usually wait about 1/2 hour before eating, after taking something that says " take on empty stomach " . I usually just mixed it with a bit of water to make a paste. I like the taste; not everybody does. With ImmunePro, I started out with 1/4 tsp also. No reaction. Doubled it. No reaction. Started measuring on a kitchen scale in grams. Got up to 2 grams, still fine. Doubled that to 4 grams. So far, so good. Doubled that to 8 grams... and BAM! Fever, aches, felt lousy, spent most of that day in bed. I stopped the ImmunePro for a week, and then started back more gradually. That went better. I worked up to more than 10 grams a day. When I took it, I often felt a slight flush 15-20 minutes afterwards. This let me know that it was having an effect on -something- in my system. However, even after taking it for more than 6 months at suggested levels, I didn't see any noticeable improvement. So I don't know what to think. I had a herx-like reaction going from 4gr to 8 gr, but didn't feel much overall improvement after sneaking up on a greater amount. Oh, and when I discontinued it, I didn't really feel any change either. I don't discount the possibility that it was doing something beneficial at a low level, but for me it wasn't anything dramatic. It could be that my system can't use the nondenatured glutathione properly. I think one of Rich's papers addresses this, but my brain isn't remembering the details. Some people report improvement, so I'd say it's worth a try. My brain is empty now. Hope my comments help. Marcia on in Salem, Massachusetts > > folks, > > i know cheney recommended undenatured whey over 7 years ago. but i am > only now getting to try it. > > what is the latest thinking on it? i bought immunopro and am starting > at a super low dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day. > > do i need to take it on an empty stomach? how long before I can eat > after i take it? > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey and > CFS? and what is cheney's lastest thinking of it? > > sorry to raise this topic, as i know it has been raised many times before. > > thanks > r > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2007 Report Share Posted August 25, 2007 > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey http://users.adelphia.net/~sherry423/GuaiWhey/whey.htm > folks, > > i know cheney recommended undenatured whey over 7 years ago. but i am > only now getting to try it. > > what is the latest thinking on it? i bought immunopro and am starting > at a super low dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day. > > do i need to take it on an empty stomach? how long before I can eat > after i take it? > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey and > CFS? and what is cheney's lastest thinking of it? > > sorry to raise this topic, as i know it has been raised many times before. > > thanks > r > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 Is anyone concerned about buying ImmunePro (I wouldn't buy the RenewPro) and having it shipped in this heat? Won't it lose some of it's nutritional value? Or, is 3-4 days in a mail truck, mail box, warehouse something that I shouldn't worry about? I have been meaning to bring this topic up for a while. And to the person who asked the question below, yes, increase your dosage gradually, take it on an empty stomach, and wait about one hour before eating anything else, otherwise, you could mess up the Ph. Mike C > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey > http://users.adelphia.net/~sherry423/GuaiWhey/whey.htm > > folks, > > > > i know cheney recommended undenatured whey over 7 years ago. but i am > > only now getting to try it. > > > > what is the latest thinking on it? i bought immunopro and am starting > > at a super low dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day. > > > > do i need to take it on an empty stomach? how long before I can eat > > after i take it? > > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey and > > CFS? and what is cheney's lastest thinking of it? > > > > sorry to raise this topic, as i know it has been raised many times before. > > > > thanks > > r > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2007 Report Share Posted August 26, 2007 I get concerned for all my supplements in summer. Sometimes they show up truly warm.Took 10 mins for the shipment from Yasko to return to room temp. Adrienne Re: undenatured whey Is anyone concerned about buying ImmunePro (I wouldn't buy the RenewPro) and having it shipped in this heat? Won't it lose some of it's nutritional value? Or, is 3-4 days in a mail truck, mail box, warehouse something that I shouldn't worry about? I have been meaning to bring this topic up for a while. And to the person who asked the question below, yes, increase your dosage gradually, take it on an empty stomach, and wait about one hour before eating anything else, otherwise, you could mess up the Ph. Mike C > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey > http://users.adelphia.net/~sherry423/GuaiWhey/whey.htm > > folks, > > > > i know cheney recommended undenatured whey over 7 years ago. but i am > > only now getting to try it. > > > > what is the latest thinking on it? i bought immunopro and am starting > > at a super low dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day. > > > > do i need to take it on an empty stomach? how long before I can eat > > after i take it? > > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey and > > CFS? and what is cheney's lastest thinking of it? > > > > sorry to raise this topic, as i know it has been raised many times before. > > > > thanks > > r > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 Mike, Awhile back, I had a real concern about the same thing. My distributor assured me that in the dry form, it would not be compromised, and I was ordering from across country. I may have chosen 2nd day air, at the medium cost. But, check this out...call Well Wisdom themselves and ask them...beyond just getting a robot answer. We'd still be trusting the integrity or positive knowledge of who you ask. When ImmunoPro first came out, I did speak with the owner about various matters, and at that time, had full confidence in him/the company. It's tough these days to know if anyone has full integrity and knowledge about anything, but I think it's worth the inquiry. Some things are compromised by cold temperatures...Nexavir gel for instance. Yet they assure me it is safe sent out these days (summer)... I order 2nd day air. Some companies/pharmacies with products they know will be compromised by temperature *require* them to be sent out on ice, or overnight, or 2nd day air. Other points... ~~~ I try to avoid something being in transit on the week-end. ~~~ UPS *says* nothing sits around in the heat...but parked in cool wherehouse. ~~~ In some regions and times, sending by US Postal Service *may* risk irradiation (security). ~~~ I think it's empty stomach for IP for 30 minutes after, 2 hours before. And mixed with water...possibly yoghurt/milk is OK? can't recall...I just use water. We can keep making the inquiries on all of the above, closest to the source. BW, Katrina > > > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey > > http://users.adelphia.net/~sherry423/GuaiWhey/whey.htm > > > folks, > > > > > > i know cheney recommended undenatured whey over 7 years ago. but > i am > > > only now getting to try it. > > > > > > what is the latest thinking on it? i bought immunopro and am > starting > > > at a super low dose of 1/4 teaspoon a day. > > > > > > do i need to take it on an empty stomach? how long before I can > eat > > > after i take it? > > > > > > anyone able to guide me to the best articles on undenatured whey > and > > > CFS? and what is cheney's lastest thinking of it? > > > > > > sorry to raise this topic, as i know it has been raised many > times before. > > > > > > thanks > > > r > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2007 Report Share Posted August 27, 2007 I had an email exchange with the renewpro people last year during the heat, after my shipment was left on the front porch all day, and they said it was not an issue. Actually, it ought to be fine up to 98.6F in any case, right? ;-) On 8/26/07, yakcamp22 <yakcamp22@...> wrote: > Is anyone concerned about buying ImmunePro (I wouldn't buy the > RenewPro) and having it shipped in this heat? Won't it lose some > of it's nutritional value? Or, is 3-4 days in a mail truck, mail > box, warehouse something that I shouldn't worry about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I don't particularly like the taste of the whey. How much whey do you need daily? I bought packets. How many times per day, and for how long a period of time? Does it produce positive physical benefits that you can see and how long does that take? Also, what would cause a white coating on your tongue? I have seen thrush before and I know it isn't that. My tongue is just not pink. Also, My mouth is always dry feeling and I feel like I have bad breath all the time. I brush my teeth and gums and even the insides of my mouth. Would oil pulling help any of this? I feel like I am falling apart. HELP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Have you tried unflavored whey? That's the one I buy and I like it. I make a smoothie with it every morning. As for the white tongue, that's candida (thrush). If you do a spit test in the morning when you first wake up, I'll bet it'll come back positive. Donna From: Coconut Oil [mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Dembraski-Marsh Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:18 AM Coconut Oil Subject: undenatured whey I don't particularly like the taste of the whey. How much whey do you need daily? I bought packets. How many times per day, and for how long a period of time? Does it produce positive physical benefits that you can see and how long does that take? Also, what would cause a white coating on your tongue? I have seen thrush before and I know it isn't that. My tongue is just not pink. Also, My mouth is always dry feeling and I feel like I have bad breath all the time. I brush my teeth and gums and even the insides of my mouth. Would oil pulling help any of this? I feel like I am falling apart. HELP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 You can purchase unflavored whey protein isolate at Fruitful Yield stores. In a message dated 10/8/2009 9:19:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, bdembraski@... writes: I don't particularly like the taste of the whey. How much whey do you need daily? I bought packets. How many times per day, and for how long a period of time? Does it produce positive physical benefits that you can see and how long does that take? Also, what would cause a white coating on your tongue? I have seen thrush before and I know it isn't that. My tongue is just not pink. Also, My mouth is always dry feeling and I feel like I have bad breath all the time. I brush my teeth and gums and even the insides of my mouth. Would oil pulling help any of this? I feel like I am falling apart. HELP!!! ------------------------------------ Groups Links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I suspect whey in packets is much more expensive than buying when in large jars or bags. I also suspect the size of a dose in a packet is far less than what I would call a dose. Unflavored whey is not real yummy to me. I blend unflavored whey and vanilla whey (about 1:1) for better flavor while keeping carbs fairly low. I make whey taste yummy by using far less water than the instructions tell me to use, and adding an ounce of heavy cream. I use a pint of heavy cream every 8 days and I see no weight gain whatsoever. Alobar On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Dembraski-Marsh <bdembraski@...> wrote: > I don't particularly like the taste of the whey. How much whey do you need daily? I bought packets. How many times per day, and for how long a period of time? Does it produce positive physical benefits that you can see and how long does that take? > > Also, what would cause a white coating on your tongue? I have seen thrush before and I know it isn't that. My tongue is just not pink. Also, My mouth is always dry feeling and I feel like I have bad breath all the time. I brush my teeth and gums and even the insides of my mouth. Would oil pulling help any of this? I feel like I am falling apart. HELP!!! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I use Jay Robb and it's reported to be the best tasting of all whey's....I'll vouch for that---it's the only one I can use with just water, and I'm very picky about taste...... Blessings, Margaret " We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by the love we're not extending in the present. " —nne on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 I am just not a breakfast person. However, I can do whey, altho much simpler than most: 1/2 glass milk w/a scoop of unflavored whey.. The flavored forms are just too overwhelming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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