Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I have heard this but I've never seen any actual research to support it. I suspect it is a myth but don't really know. I know of lots of people that add mineral drops to their RO or distilled water to remineralize it. I suspect that is probably adequate. I don't bother. We drink mineral water and I cook with RO and take extra minerals. Irene At 11:50 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: >I have changed water from distilled (which I recently found out isn't >good. guess it has no minerals so it takes them from the body. Anyone >know about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Most drinking water contains very little minerals. Even if your tap water has a fair bit of minerals, you caqn easily replace the minerals with supplements. Dehydration is not at all healthy. Alobar On 9/7/06, Ken & Jackie Reimer <quest4us@...> wrote: > > > > I have the same problem, I never want to drink water. I have to force myself and then I get an upset tummy. > > > I have changed water from distilled (which I recently found out isn't good. guess it has no minerals so it takes them from the body. Anyone know about this? > And Spring water, purified water....ugh! > > > Jackie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I have *heard* this too. At one point when I was breaking down either an herb or med (I do not recall what at the moment) to a level I could tolerate my doctor insisted I only use distilled water to do that. Apparently, he had some concern about what is in regular water (spring water)impacting the substance. It seems common sense to me, however, that distilled water would not be good 100% of the time without a *special* reason to use it that way. I think there may be some medical conditions where it might be recommended. Abbe --- Irene.M@... wrote: > I have heard this but I've never seen any actual > research to support it. I > suspect it is a myth but don't really know. I know > of lots of people that > add mineral drops to their RO or distilled water to > remineralize it. I > suspect that is probably adequate. I don't bother. > We drink mineral water > and I cook with RO and take extra minerals. > Irene > > At 11:50 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > >I have changed water from distilled (which I > recently found out isn't > >good. guess it has no minerals so it takes them > from the body. Anyone > >know about this? > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 For what it is worth I do recommend distilled water. Distilled water is a " dead water " meaning that it is nothing but pure water. Because of this it has no mineral content. There is a lot of discussion about whether or not distilled water can cause health concerns---some say yes and some say no. I have spoken to a couple of PhD's that actually study water and its properties and they lean heavily toward using distilled water. For someone who is doing a cleanse or body detoxification then distilled water, used for no more than 3 months, will actually help to pull out toxins. Personally, I have been using distilled water for 6 years and have had no problems. But, I also add one capful of organic, apple-cider vinegar to a glass of water in order to get mineral content. I have done this for so long that I actually prefer apple-cider vinegar water to just plain distilled water. It is also health-smart to get any type of bottled water in glass bottles rather than plastic. There is only one company that I know of that provides distilled water in glass bottles and that is Mountain Valley Spring. Several years ago, before I realized what plastic can do to water, we were using Ozarka distilled water. After some education and realizing that my water was sitting in the hot Texas sun all day, inside a plastic bottle, we decided to try the glass bottles from MVS. I couldn't believe the taste difference! Even my family noticed. If a person is already mineral depleted then drinking distilled water is not a good idea unless you are adding extra minerals back to the water. But distilled water is probably the safest water and knowing that you need to add minerals allows you to have control as to what minerals are added along with the quality of those minerals. Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 I do know that when I had my refrigerator installed the installer told me that if I was going to use a external filter for the ice maker that the hosing from the filter to the frig should be plastic. The water being stripped of minerals slowly dissolves the copper tubing as it tries to reconstitute it's mineral content. I wouldn't have believed the thought of water being `hungry' if this had not been told to me several years ago. --- Irene.M@... wrote: > I have heard this but I've never seen any actual research to support it. I > suspect it is a myth but don't really know. I know of lots of people that > add mineral drops to their RO or distilled water to remineralize it. I > suspect that is probably adequate. I don't bother. We drink mineral water > and I cook with RO and take extra minerals. > Irene > > At 11:50 AM 9/7/2006, you wrote: > > >I have changed water from distilled (which I recently found out isn't > >good. guess it has no minerals so it takes them from the body. Anyone > >know about this? > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 >From: " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier@...> > >It is also health-smart to get any type of bottled water in glass bottles >rather than plastic. It does kind of defeat the purpose of getting it distilled. I remember when I visited my sister in Texas once, her tap water was terrible and her milk was in plastic. I was nauseous all week from the lack of decent water and the plastic milk, it definitely had a real strong taste to it. But then, we get used to it. I've forgotten what milk tastes like that doesn't have that plastic taste to it. It's not difficult to believe all the chemicals from the plastic are leaching into the liquid. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Get real-time traffic reports with Windows Live Local Search http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2 & cp=42.336065~-109.392273 & style=r & lvl=4 & sc\ ene=3712634 & trfc=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 , That's interesting. I have wood floors in my kitchen and I was told to get rid of the plastic tubing and put in copper because the plastic hose cracks over time from the condenser and the copper would not. I had initially bought a copper hose kit from Best Buy but there are big differences in the thickness of copper tubing. I ended up having a professional do it and the stuff he had was twice as thick as the Best Buy stuff. jingles > > I do know that when I had my refrigerator installed the installer told me that if I was going to > use a external filter for the ice maker that the hosing from the filter to the frig should be > plastic. The water being stripped of minerals slowly dissolves the copper tubing as it tries to > reconstitute it's mineral content. I wouldn't have believed the thought of water being `hungry' > if this had not been told to me several years ago. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 >From: " groupiestuff " <groupiestuff@...> >, > >That's interesting. I have wood floors in my kitchen and I was told to >get rid of the plastic tubing and put in copper because the plastic >hose cracks over time from the condenser and the copper would not. I >had initially bought a copper hose kit from Best Buy but there are big >differences in the thickness of copper tubing. I ended up having a >professional do it and the stuff he had was twice as thick as the Best >Buy stuff. I would think copper would be safer. Plastic leaches into water. Of course, you can always find sources to back up the harm of anything - http://www.epa.gov/region7/water/dwgw.htm " Many drinking water systems contain distribution and service lines made from polyvinyl chloride (PVC) pipe. In Doniphan County (Kansas) Rural Water District No. 5, vinyl chloride residue is leaching into the drinking water at levels that pose a health concern. " That shows it does leach, and what a surprise! From plastic bottles too ( didn't know those were PVC) - http://tinyurl.com/rbxlx " The time of storage of PVC-packaged foodstuffs may affect the daily oral intake of this monomer, which in some cases may exceed 100 ng/person/day. " I guess it's not a problem if you think PVC is safer to ingest than copper. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces is here! It’s easy to create your own personal Web site. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 What's been your experience in water being stored in those plastic containers called neoprene(not sure of the spelling)? They are blue or smoked in color. They claim that the material doesn't leach any harmful chemicals. Kathleen > > For what it is worth I do recommend distilled water. Distilled water is a > " dead water " meaning that it is nothing but pure water. Because of this it > has no mineral content. There is a lot of discussion about whether or not > distilled water can cause health concerns---some say yes and some say no. I > have spoken to a couple of PhD's that actually study water and its > properties and they lean heavily toward using distilled water. For someone > who is doing a cleanse or body detoxification then distilled water, used for > no more than 3 months, will actually help to pull out toxins. > > Personally, I have been using distilled water for 6 years and have had no > problems. But, I also add one capful of organic, apple-cider vinegar to a > glass of water in order to get mineral content. I have done this for so > long that I actually prefer apple-cider vinegar water to just plain > distilled water. > > It is also health-smart to get any type of bottled water in glass bottles > rather than plastic. There is only one company that I know of that provides > distilled water in glass bottles and that is Mountain Valley Spring. > Several years ago, before I realized what plastic can do to water, we were > using Ozarka distilled water. After some education and realizing that my > water was sitting in the hot Texas sun all day, inside a plastic bottle, we > decided to try the glass bottles from MVS. I couldn't believe the taste > difference! Even my family noticed. > > If a person is already mineral depleted then drinking distilled water is not > a good idea unless you are adding extra minerals back to the water. But > distilled water is probably the safest water and knowing that you need to > add minerals allows you to have control as to what minerals are added along > with the quality of those minerals. > > Be Well > Loretta > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 I'm confused as well as to what to use http://www.mercola.com/blog/2004/mar/23/naglene_water_bottles_appear_to _be_unsafe Mercola has a bunch of info on his site. I ended up buying a quart size glass bottle but it is heavy and not practicle all the time. jingles > What's been your experience in water being stored in those plastic > containers called neoprene(not sure of the spelling)? They are blue > or smoked in color. They claim that the material doesn't leach any > harmful chemicals. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/accent/141746.php --- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: > >From: " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier@...> > > > >It is also health-smart to get any type of bottled water in glass bottles > >rather than plastic. > > It does kind of defeat the purpose of getting it distilled. > > I remember when I visited my sister in Texas once, her tap water was > terrible and her milk was in plastic. I was nauseous all week from the lack > of decent water and the plastic milk, it definitely had a real strong taste > to it. > > But then, we get used to it. I've forgotten what milk tastes like that > doesn't have that plastic taste to it. > > It's not difficult to believe all the chemicals from the plastic are > leaching into the liquid. > > Skipper > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get real-time traffic reports with Windows Live Local Search > http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2 & cp=42.336065~-109.392273 & style=r & lvl=4 & sc\ ene=3712634 & trfc=1 > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 --- Skipper Beers <lsb149@...> wrote: > >From: " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " > <LorettaLanphier@...> > > > >It is also health-smart to get any type of bottled > water in glass bottles > >rather than plastic. There are ratings on the bottom of plastic bottles. Supposedly the 1 in the little triangle on the bottom of the bottle indicates safest, and the 2 is considered acceptable by those monitoring. Abbe __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Keep in mind this guy was talking about the line from an external filter to the refrigerator. Did you have an external filter or is this just the line from the water source to the refrigerator? Most have internal filters. In my case, the installer was a high end equipment installer/repairer (the frig was $7500) he had to level the frig, door adjusting, etc. he was trained and seemed very knowlegeable. He even said that Sub-zero had replaced all the internal piping with plastic because people were ruining their refrigerators with filters. Plastic leaching carcinogens is another issue. http://www.azstarnet.com/dailystar/accent/141746.php Completely re-piping homes with PVC is allowable in some states...probably not a good Idea. --- groupiestuff <groupiestuff@...> wrote: > , > > That's interesting. I have wood floors in my kitchen and I was told to > get rid of the plastic tubing and put in copper because the plastic > hose cracks over time from the condenser and the copper would not. I > had initially bought a copper hose kit from Best Buy but there are big > differences in the thickness of copper tubing. I ended up having a > professional do it and the stuff he had was twice as thick as the Best > Buy stuff. > > jingles > > > > I do know that when I had my refrigerator installed the installer > told me that if I was going to > > use a external filter for the ice maker that the hosing from the > filter to the frig should be > > plastic. The water being stripped of minerals slowly dissolves the > copper tubing as it tries to > > reconstitute it's mineral content. I wouldn't have believed the > thought of water being `hungry' > > if this had not been told to me several years ago. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 Skipper Beers wrote: > I would think copper would be safer. > > Plastic leaches into water. > > Of course, you can always find sources to back up the harm of anything - > Water is a hard problem. Copper pipes leach too ... and if you don't clear it from your system, high copper levels do cause health problems. A lot of women, particularly, have high copper levels (which leads to depression among other things: it sits in your brain). You can avoid copper toxicity by making sure you get plenty of zinc, and by eating seaweed. But in any case, the piping in your house is the least of your problems. The water goes through all those city pipes, which are often old and leaching and who knows what they are made of (lead solder, anyone?). In North Seattle, there is a deep artesian well that you can fill up bottles from. People line up with big bottles and use that for drinking water ... it's free, and is tested by the city constantly. Getting really good spring water like that is the ideal, I think. It tastes fantastic too. -- Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 To be real honest, personal opinion, I do not trust any plastic or pharmaceutical company to tell the complete truth---about anything. They all have a lousy track record where truth and honesty come into play. I suspect that at some point they will come back and say something like " sorry, we 'thought' it didn't leach " or something to that effect and, oh well, too bad for the hundreds of thousands that the leached chemicals have affected. Companies like Monsanto, DOW, Bayer, etc. are very high on my list of " don't trust them as far as I can see them. " Their " claims " just don't hold water with me any more. (sorry for the play on words) As far as the blue plastic, this is what Ozarka had their distilled water in and I could definitely taste a difference between that and the glass bottles of Mountain Valley Spring. Someone mentioned that the glass is heavy and yes it absolutely is heavy. Mountain Valley Spring has a " carrier " that you clip on the bottle which makes it a bit easier. We broke our first bottle after about two weeks (probably will happen at least once to everyone so I am glad we got ours over with.) which provided my kitchen with a deep-clean mopping. We learned that you just have to be very careful. LOL! Our family has changed to glass, stainless steal, or cast iron for all of our cooking and storing. I just ordered a gallon glass " sun tea " pitcher to make tea and have thrown our plastic tea pitcher away. No more Tupperware or the nice gray plastic containers from Wal-Mart/Target (can't think of the proper name). Maybe I'm being too drastic, but I am tired of being used as a guinea pig in order to see what drugs, plastics, chemicals are harmful or not harmful. I consider them all harmful when used long-term. I have also noticed that a very few of the supplement makers are starting to package in glass. I have been lobbying for this for a long time---especially if the product is in liquid form. Yes, plastic is better for shipping purposes (less breakage) but if the supplement company is really concerned about health then their packaging should reflect this. For example liquid products that are being sold as oxygen drops or any liquid that contains essential oils should never be packaged in plastic, unfortunately companies do this all the time. Glass may not be convenient in many ways, but I believe that we are killing ourselves in the name of convenience. For those wondering what to do about carrying water with them there is a company that puts out a stainless steel bottle that you can put your water in. I think it is KleanKanteen or something like that. Anyway this seems to be one of the safest ways to carry around clean, pure water and they also now have it with a sippy-cup lid for children. Plus the added benefit that it will not break. I believe that Whole Foods also carries these. Water quality is important to health and since it makes up a huge portion of the body we should definitely pay attention to what we are putting into our body. Water has properties and memory, if you will. I realize that is a little far-fetched for some, but none-the-less more fact than fiction. Water is a fascinating subject and a great one to do research on. Be Well Loretta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2006 Report Share Posted September 8, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3545684.stm --- " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier@...> wrote: > To be real honest, personal opinion, I do not trust any plastic or > pharmaceutical company to tell the complete truth---about anything. They > all have a lousy track record where truth and honesty come into play. I > suspect that at some point they will come back and say something like > " sorry, we 'thought' it didn't leach " or something to that effect and, oh > well, too bad for the hundreds of thousands that the leached chemicals have > affected. Companies like Monsanto, DOW, Bayer, etc. are very high on my > list of " don't trust them as far as I can see them. " Their " claims " just > don't hold water with me any more. (sorry for the play on words) > > As far as the blue plastic, this is what Ozarka had their distilled water in > and I could definitely taste a difference between that and the glass bottles > of Mountain Valley Spring. Someone mentioned that the glass is heavy and > yes it absolutely is heavy. Mountain Valley Spring has a " carrier " that you > clip on the bottle which makes it a bit easier. We broke our first bottle > after about two weeks (probably will happen at least once to everyone so I > am glad we got ours over with.) which provided my kitchen with a deep-clean > mopping. We learned that you just have to be very careful. LOL! > > Our family has changed to glass, stainless steal, or cast iron for all of > our cooking and storing. I just ordered a gallon glass " sun tea " pitcher to > make tea and have thrown our plastic tea pitcher away. No more Tupperware > or the nice gray plastic containers from Wal-Mart/Target (can't think of the > proper name). Maybe I'm being too drastic, but I am tired of being used as > a guinea pig in order to see what drugs, plastics, chemicals are harmful or > not harmful. I consider them all harmful when used long-term. > > I have also noticed that a very few of the supplement makers are starting to > package in glass. I have been lobbying for this for a long > time---especially if the product is in liquid form. Yes, plastic is better > for shipping purposes (less breakage) but if the supplement company is > really concerned about health then their packaging should reflect this. For > example liquid products that are being sold as oxygen drops or any liquid > that contains essential oils should never be packaged in plastic, > unfortunately companies do this all the time. > > Glass may not be convenient in many ways, but I believe that we are killing > ourselves in the name of convenience. > > For those wondering what to do about carrying water with them there is a > company that puts out a stainless steel bottle that you can put your water > in. I think it is KleanKanteen or something like that. Anyway this seems > to be one of the safest ways to carry around clean, pure water and they also > now have it with a sippy-cup lid for children. Plus the added benefit that > it will not break. I believe that Whole Foods also carries these. > > Water quality is important to health and since it makes up a huge portion of > the body we should definitely pay attention to what we are putting into our > body. Water has properties and memory, if you will. I realize that is a > little far-fetched for some, but none-the-less more fact than fiction. > Water is a fascinating subject and a great one to do research on. > > Be Well > Loretta > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 Interesting link. What other medications are showing up in the drinking water? mmmm! Is it really only coming from the sewage connections to the rivers and other waters sources? Or, is someone/company slipping drugs in the tap water in low dosages unbeknownst to the public. mmmmmmmmm!! Thanks for the link. Kathleen > > > To be real honest, personal opinion, I do not trust any plastic or > > pharmaceutical company to tell the complete truth---about anything. They > > all have a lousy track record where truth and honesty come into play. I > > suspect that at some point they will come back and say something like > > " sorry, we 'thought' it didn't leach " or something to that effect and, oh > > well, too bad for the hundreds of thousands that the leached chemicals have > > affected. Companies like Monsanto, DOW, Bayer, etc. are very high on my > > list of " don't trust them as far as I can see them. " Their " claims " just > > don't hold water with me any more. (sorry for the play on words) > > > > As far as the blue plastic, this is what Ozarka had their distilled water in > > and I could definitely taste a difference between that and the glass bottles > > of Mountain Valley Spring. Someone mentioned that the glass is heavy and > > yes it absolutely is heavy. Mountain Valley Spring has a " carrier " that you > > clip on the bottle which makes it a bit easier. We broke our first bottle > > after about two weeks (probably will happen at least once to everyone so I > > am glad we got ours over with.) which provided my kitchen with a deep-clean > > mopping. We learned that you just have to be very careful. LOL! > > > > Our family has changed to glass, stainless steal, or cast iron for all of > > our cooking and storing. I just ordered a gallon glass " sun tea " pitcher to > > make tea and have thrown our plastic tea pitcher away. No more Tupperware > > or the nice gray plastic containers from Wal-Mart/Target (can't think of the > > proper name). Maybe I'm being too drastic, but I am tired of being used as > > a guinea pig in order to see what drugs, plastics, chemicals are harmful or > > not harmful. I consider them all harmful when used long-term. > > > > I have also noticed that a very few of the supplement makers are starting to > > package in glass. I have been lobbying for this for a long > > time---especially if the product is in liquid form. Yes, plastic is better > > for shipping purposes (less breakage) but if the supplement company is > > really concerned about health then their packaging should reflect this. For > > example liquid products that are being sold as oxygen drops or any liquid > > that contains essential oils should never be packaged in plastic, > > unfortunately companies do this all the time. > > > > Glass may not be convenient in many ways, but I believe that we are killing > > ourselves in the name of convenience. > > > > For those wondering what to do about carrying water with them there is a > > company that puts out a stainless steel bottle that you can put your water > > in. I think it is KleanKanteen or something like that. Anyway this seems > > to be one of the safest ways to carry around clean, pure water and they also > > now have it with a sippy-cup lid for children. Plus the added benefit that > > it will not break. I believe that Whole Foods also carries these. > > > > Water quality is important to health and since it makes up a huge portion of > > the body we should definitely pay attention to what we are putting into our > > body. Water has properties and memory, if you will. I realize that is a > > little far-fetched for some, but none-the-less more fact than fiction. > > Water is a fascinating subject and a great one to do research on. > > > > Be Well > > Loretta > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 --- " Dr. Loretta Lanphier " <LorettaLanphier@...> wrote: > Our family has changed to glass, stainless steal, or > cast iron for all of > our cooking and storing. Over twenty years ago I did this. Got rid of the cast iron too. It seemed to me I might get too much iron from using it. One day I was sipping something from a beautiful crystal glass and thought this is " lead " crystal. I do not know if it is actually made with lead, but I have not used those glasses since. Having written all of that I often think about how far to take this and other things because then I become even more sensitive to the environment around me. I do agree about the importance of water. Abbe __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I have two of these KleanKanteen's, and I LOVE them! I honestly want to get more, and I would love to replace the plastic kids drink cups with stainless steel (tile floors & glass don't mix). I really do despise plastic, and always have for so many reasons. I recently read from a biochemist that dioxin (as in, plastics) displaces thyroxine. Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ > > For those wondering what to do about carrying water with them there is a > > company that puts out a stainless steel bottle that you can put your water > > in. I think it is KleanKanteen or something like that. Anyway this seems > > to be one of the safest ways to carry around clean, pure water and they also > > now have it with a sippy-cup lid for children. Plus the added benefit that > > it will not break. I believe that Whole Foods also carries these. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 I heard years ago that residues from birth control pills are in the water system, also. Thank goodness I have a well! Best, Handcrafted Jewelry ~ http://www.ChestnutHillDesigns.com Curly Horse Rescue ~ http://www.CurlyRescue.com ~If you can stay calm, while all around you is chaos...then you probably haven't completely understood the situation.~ ~Flashlights are tubular metal containers for the purpose of storing dead batteries.~ > Interesting link. What other medications are showing up in the > drinking water? mmmm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 >From: " kathleen_nick42 " <hanlonk@...> >Interesting link. What other medications are showing up in the >drinking water? mmmm! Is it really only coming from the sewage >connections to the rivers and other waters sources? Or, is >someone/company slipping drugs in the tap water in low dosages >unbeknownst to the public. mmmmmmmmm!! Thanks for the link. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/05/AR2006090501384.\ html Male Bass Across Region Found to Be Bearing Eggs Pollution Concerns Arise In Drinking-Water Source *********************** This isn't rare. That article was referring to the Potomca River, but it also happens in England and the west coast. And maybe everywhere, since I doubt they test many places for it. I don't know they can keep it out of our drinking water. Of course, plactics have " estrogens " so anything you drink from plastic is going to have a chemical estrogen residue. Coffee is known as being estrogenic. Soy has a high plant estrogen quality. Maybe now we can impute what is happening to a portion of the male population. They're being bombarded by female hormones. Prozac and other antidepressants are also found in the water, as well as antibiotics. The question is how serious they are to our health. Some people say the doses we get from water are too low to have any effect. Skipper _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Spaces is here! It’s easy to create your own personal Web site. http://spaces.live.com/signup.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2006 Report Share Posted September 9, 2006 The same story appeared in the Los Angeles times about the drinking water here in L.A. --- kathleen_nick42 <hanlonk@...> wrote: > Interesting link. What other medications are showing up in the > drinking water? mmmm! Is it really only coming from the sewage > connections to the rivers and other waters sources? Or, is > someone/company slipping drugs in the tap water in low dosages > unbeknownst to the public. mmmmmmmmm!! Thanks for the link. > > Kathleen > > > > > > > To be real honest, personal opinion, I do not trust any plastic > or > > > pharmaceutical company to tell the complete truth---about > anything. They > > > all have a lousy track record where truth and honesty come into > play. I > > > suspect that at some point they will come back and say something > like > > > " sorry, we 'thought' it didn't leach " or something to that > effect and, oh > > > well, too bad for the hundreds of thousands that the leached > chemicals have > > > affected. Companies like Monsanto, DOW, Bayer, etc. are very > high on my > > > list of " don't trust them as far as I can see them. " > Their " claims " just > > > don't hold water with me any more. (sorry for the play on words) > > > > > > As far as the blue plastic, this is what Ozarka had their > distilled water in > > > and I could definitely taste a difference between that and the > glass bottles > > > of Mountain Valley Spring. Someone mentioned that the glass is > heavy and > > > yes it absolutely is heavy. Mountain Valley Spring has > a " carrier " that you > > > clip on the bottle which makes it a bit easier. We broke our > first bottle > > > after about two weeks (probably will happen at least once to > everyone so I > > > am glad we got ours over with.) which provided my kitchen with a > deep-clean > > > mopping. We learned that you just have to be very careful. LOL! > > > > > > Our family has changed to glass, stainless steal, or cast iron > for all of > > > our cooking and storing. I just ordered a gallon glass " sun > tea " pitcher to > > > make tea and have thrown our plastic tea pitcher away. No more > Tupperware > > > or the nice gray plastic containers from Wal-Mart/Target (can't > think of the > > > proper name). Maybe I'm being too drastic, but I am tired of > being used as > > > a guinea pig in order to see what drugs, plastics, chemicals are > harmful or > > > not harmful. I consider them all harmful when used long-term. > > > > > > I have also noticed that a very few of the supplement makers are > starting to > > > package in glass. I have been lobbying for this for a long > > > time---especially if the product is in liquid form. Yes, > plastic is better > > > for shipping purposes (less breakage) but if the supplement > company is > > > really concerned about health then their packaging should > reflect this. For > > > example liquid products that are being sold as oxygen drops or > any liquid > > > that contains essential oils should never be packaged in plastic, > > > unfortunately companies do this all the time. > > > > > > Glass may not be convenient in many ways, but I believe that we > are killing > > > ourselves in the name of convenience. > > > > > > For those wondering what to do about carrying water with them > there is a > > > company that puts out a stainless steel bottle that you can put > your water > > > in. I think it is KleanKanteen or something like that. Anyway > this seems > > > to be one of the safest ways to carry around clean, pure water > and they also > > > now have it with a sippy-cup lid for children. Plus the added > benefit that > > > it will not break. I believe that Whole Foods also carries > these. > > > > > > Water quality is important to health and since it makes up a > huge portion of > > > the body we should definitely pay attention to what we are > putting into our > > > body. Water has properties and memory, if you will. I realize > that is a > > > little far-fetched for some, but none-the-less more fact than > fiction. > > > Water is a fascinating subject and a great one to do research on. > > > > > > Be Well > > > Loretta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2009 Report Share Posted April 1, 2009 You would be amazed at the testing water has to go through just to be dumped into the sewer, I am guessing the water coming out of your tap goes through equally stringent requirements. You can look up the water testing requirements online, I believe drinking water requirements are in 40CFR 141 (at least for the US). If it doesn’t kill things that live in it and you can safely drink it, I’d say irrigate with it. If you are sensitive, then by all means, sterilize it. For me, it is like people who refuse to eat dairy products past the sell-by date because it makes them sick or who won’t eat leftovers more than 3 days old for the same reason. If it makes you sick, don’t do it. If it doesn’t, go ahead! If you aren’t sure, try it both ways! I have eaten dairy products months after the sell-by date (mainly sour cream) and heck I have eaten 2-week old leftovers with no issues. I irrigate with any tap water I am willing to drink. I can smell, breathe, and haven’t had a surgery since 2005 (or was it 2004?). I personally believe over-sterilizing things causes more issues than it solves. I have learned a lot from this group and continue to do so and I hope what I have learned and what I do will help others. K. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of wayden72 Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:32 PM samters Subject: drinking water There is not a water treatment facility on this planet that would promise sterile drinking water.Maybe for a totally healthy person there is no risk or an acceptible risk.Store the water then drink it or do a nasal wash risks go up.If your immunocompomised or have poor defense mechanisms or a local environment hospitible for microbes,more risk yet.; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2009 Report Share Posted April 2, 2009 Water quality typically is a local issue. First, one has to take into account the quality requirements at the exit of the water distribution plant. These requirements may be more or less stringent depending upon the country, and sometimes upon the local quality of the raw material that is available (ie recycled sewage water, or fresh groundwater). Then, some plants may not fulfill the legal requirements all the time, that is, until they correct themselves or get caught by a sanitation inspection. Also, additional requirements may come into consideration, like the obligation to add defined amounts of chlorine under certain circumstances. So, water quality varies from the beginning. Then, comes the issue of the quality of the water distribution network, ie the quality of the main urban pipes. Since high volume water flows all day through them, we can assume the water does not stay there long enough to get seriously contaminated. Normally, modern distribution pipes are no longer in dangerous materials such as lead. Finally, comes the issue of the water circuit in your home : often small copper pipes, or now more often plastic-lined ones. Can water get contaminated from these pipes ? It depends on their interior state, but it clearly cannot be excluded. In my case, when tap water stays long enough in a metal container, like a simple water boiler, small red deposits can form over time, which probably means ferruginous bacteria develop, even though the boiler is made from stainless steel. Given more time, black deposits form, which may be fungi or other bacteria. It may turn out that these bacteria are harmless, but since I do not feel comfortable with the idea of testing this, I rather use bottled saline. > > You would be amazed at the testing water has to go through just to be dumped > into the sewer, I am guessing the water coming out of your tap goes through > equally stringent requirements. You can look up the water testing > requirements online, I believe drinking water requirements are in 40CFR 141 > (at least for the US). If it doesn't kill things that live in it and you > can safely drink it, I'd say irrigate with it. If you are sensitive, then > by all means, sterilize it. For me, it is like people who refuse to eat > dairy products past the sell-by date because it makes them sick or who won't > eat leftovers more than 3 days old for the same reason. If it makes you > sick, don't do it. If it doesn't, go ahead! If you aren't sure, try it > both ways! I have eaten dairy products months after the sell-by date > (mainly sour cream) and heck I have eaten 2-week old leftovers with no > issues. I irrigate with any tap water I am willing to drink. I can smell, > breathe, and haven't had a surgery since 2005 (or was it 2004?). I > personally believe over-sterilizing things causes more issues than it > solves. I have learned a lot from this group and continue to do so and I > hope what I have learned and what I do will help others. > > > > K. > > > > From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of > wayden72 > Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 6:32 PM > samters > Subject: drinking water > > > > There is not a water treatment facility on this planet that would promise > sterile drinking water.Maybe for a totally healthy person there is no risk > or an acceptible risk.Store the water then drink it or do a nasal wash risks > go up.If your immunocompomised or have poor defense mechanisms or a local > environment hospitible for microbes,more risk yet.; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 After reading Eat Fat, Lose Fat, I had a few questions. One was pertaining to water. The authors say not to drink too much water (so you don't upset your digestive system), and that current recommendations for water may be too much. I drink a lot of water normally (>8 cups/day), and even more as a breastfeeding mother. My drink to satisfy thirst is much more than most people I know. Anyone have any comments on this? My other question is about chocolate. In the Nourishing Traditions book, chocolate is off limits (because of caffeine), but it makes an appearance in EFLF. Any reasons for this? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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