Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: <curingcandida/join> I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: <candidiasis/join> all good, Duncan > > Bee does not support the use of probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Duncan,  Scientology is a religion not a cult. This list is not here to bash religions and people's beliefs. And, FYI, Ms. Wilder is not an active member of the Church and her operational policies are NOT reflective of the policies of the Church of Scientology, far from it. If you had even a smidgen of data about the Church of Scientology you would now that.  Get the facts before you start bashing.  Pamela From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group Coconut Oil Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM  Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: <curingcandida/join> I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: <candidiasis/join> all good, Duncan > > Bee does not support the use of probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Thanks for that Pamela! I agree. Gigi On Mon, 31 May 2010 08:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Theta <calblonde1@...> writes: Duncan, Scientology is a religion not a cult. This list is not here to bash religions and people's beliefs. And, FYI, Ms. Wilder is not an active member of the Church and her operational policies are NOT reflective of the policies of the Church of Scientology, far from it. If you had even a smidgen of data about the Church of Scientology you would now that. Get the facts before you start bashing. Pamela From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group Coconut Oil Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: <curingcandida/join> I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: <candidiasis/join> all good, Duncan > > Bee does not support the use of probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Let's put Scientology aside. Whether Scientology is a cult or a religion is not really germaine to this list. But what of Duncan's allegation that Bee will ban someone for questioning her information? What of Duncan's allegation that her information is misinformation? What about Duncan's allegation that Bee has engaged in wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group? Duncan gave links to other groups, so it seems to me that verification of Duncan's claims can be obtained. Sure seems to me I would want to check very carefully into Bee's protocol before I adopted any of it. Alobar On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Theta <calblonde1@...> wrote: > Duncan, > > Scientology is a religion not a cult. This list is not here to bash religions and people's beliefs. And, FYI, Ms. Wilder is not an active member of the Church and her operational policies are NOT reflective of the policies of the Church of Scientology, far from it. If you had even a smidgen of data about the Church of Scientology you would now that. > > Get the facts before you start bashing. > > Pamela > > > > > From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> > Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group > Coconut Oil > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. > > Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: > http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html > > Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: > <curingcandida/join> > > I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: > <candidiasis/join> > > all good, > > Duncan > > >> > >> Bee does not support the use of probiotics. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Sorry if I offended anyone, but for the record " Scientology Cult " was the legally correct term for a Canadian to write. I see nothing wrong with having cult status; might even be cool Smidgen of data; a WIKI with no (cite needed) on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country all good, Duncan > > Duncan, >  > Scientology is a religion not a cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 Alobar,  Bashing of someones religion is not OK and VERY, VERY relevant!   If you would read what I stated, (if that isn't too much to ask), I was not defending Ms Wilder.  She is a ruthless, ill informed, mercenary sociopath. To compare her operational policies to the policies of the Church of Scientology is ill informed and mean-spirited (two virtues I have seen Duncan demonstrate before).  It's fine to defend points of view, but not at the cost of recklessly defaming a religion.  I know it's not popular to stand up for religion, but it's something, I believe, one must do.  Pamela  On Mon, 5/31/10, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: From: Alobar <Alobar@...> Subject: Re: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group Coconut Oil Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 3:29 PM  Let's put Scientology aside. Whether Scientology is a cult or a religion is not really germaine to this list. But what of Duncan's allegation that Bee will ban someone for questioning her information? What of Duncan's allegation that her information is misinformation? What about Duncan's allegation that Bee has engaged in wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group? Duncan gave links to other groups, so it seems to me that verification of Duncan's claims can be obtained. Sure seems to me I would want to check very carefully into Bee's protocol before I adopted any of it. Alobar On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Theta <calblonde1@...> wrote: > Duncan, > > Scientology is a religion not a cult. This list is not here to bash religions and people's beliefs. And, FYI, Ms. Wilder is not an active member of the Church and her operational policies are NOT reflective of the policies of the Church of Scientology, far from it. If you had even a smidgen of data about the Church of Scientology you would now that. > > Get the facts before you start bashing. > > Pamela > > > > > From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> > Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group > Coconut Oil > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM > > > > > > > Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. > > Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: > http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html > > Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: > <curingcandida/join> > > I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: > <candidiasis/join> > > all good, > > Duncan > > >> > >> Bee does not support the use of probiotics. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 If you will re-read my post, I wrote " Let's put Scientology aside. Whether Scientology is a cult or a religion is not really germaine to this list. " I never defend religion. I have no use for organized religion. But I will not defame religion on this list. Religion is simply off-topic. Alobar On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Theta <calblonde1@...> wrote: > Alobar, > > Bashing of someones religion is not OK and VERY, VERY relevant! > > If you would read what I stated, (if that isn't too much to ask), I was not defending Ms Wilder. She is a ruthless, ill informed, mercenary sociopath. To compare her operational policies to the policies of the Church of Scientology is ill informed and mean-spirited (two virtues I have seen Duncan demonstrate before). > > It's fine to defend points of view, but not at the cost of recklessly defaming a religion. I know it's not popular to stand up for religion, but it's something, I believe, one must do. > > Pamela > > On Mon, 5/31/10, Alobar <Alobar@...> wrote: > > > From: Alobar <Alobar@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group > Coconut Oil > Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 3:29 PM > > > > > > > Let's put Scientology aside. Whether Scientology is a cult or a > religion is not really germaine to this list. > > But what of Duncan's allegation that Bee will ban someone for > questioning her information? What of Duncan's allegation that her > information is misinformation? What about Duncan's allegation that > Bee has engaged in wholesale theft and misuse of website material > written by the moderator of the curingcandida group? > > Duncan gave links to other groups, so it seems to me that verification > of Duncan's claims can be obtained. > > Sure seems to me I would want to check very carefully into Bee's > protocol before I adopted any of it. > > Alobar > > On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Theta <calblonde1@...> wrote: >> Duncan, >> >> Scientology is a religion not a cult. This list is not here to bash religions and people's beliefs. And, FYI, Ms. Wilder is not an active member of the Church and her operational policies are NOT reflective of the policies of the Church of Scientology, far from it. If you had even a smidgen of data about the Church of Scientology you would now that. >> >> Get the facts before you start bashing. >> >> Pamela >> >> >> >> >> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> >> Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group >> Coconut Oil >> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. >> >> Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: >> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html >> >> Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: >> <curingcandida/join> >> >> I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: >> <candidiasis/join> >> >> all good, >> >> Duncan >> >> >>> >> >>> Bee does not support the use of probiotics. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 This is a coconut oil forum. Please let's not forget that! Please respect this for all us. Debate and discuss any other issues at the appropriate forums or relevant places. Regards, Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I guess you didn't read my post. I wasn't accusing YOU of bashing the Church of Scientology.  Duncan is the the one that defamed the Church of Scientolgoy, I never said you did.  Pamela  >> >> >> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...> >> Subject: Re: Hemorrhoids - Bee Wilder's candida group >> Coconut Oil >> Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 8:09 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Alison, a caution on Bee Wilder's advice: don't question her gobledygook or sometimes harmfully inaccurate information or you will be banned. Bee is a megalomaniac with operational similarities derived from the scientology cult she's a member of. >> >> Several of our members, the curingcandida group owner, myself, and the candidaisis group moderator have left comments about Bee Wilder's misinformation on the list on my comments page: >> http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/comments.html >> >> Bee's wholesale theft and misuse of website material written by the moderator of the curingcandida group Debbie Padilla-Hudson has also been discussed at length. Curingcandida: >> <curingcandida/join> >> >> I suggest that people should bring questions to curingcandida or the candidaisis group, where they will be answered honestly. Candidiasis: >> <candidiasis/join> >> >> all good, >> >> Duncan >> >> >>> >> >>> Bee does not support the use of probiotics. >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2010 Report Share Posted June 2, 2010 As defined by Webster's Dictionary, a " cult " is: n. a system of religious worship. As such, all organized religions are cults. All of them indoctrinating their own particular brand of dogma (love the film!) to those who wish to be swayed (or " contaminated " as others may look at it). The Catholic Church is a cult. Mormonism is a cult. And, it also follows that, being a particularly unique manifestation of religious worship, so is Scientology. The word, however, is in the public consciousness as a slanderous term. It is, by definition, not. (Although my Mormon brother still shudders when I refer to his organization as one.) It would be like using the word, " niggard " . It only means " selfish person " . But don't count on the open-mindedness of anyone ignorant of that meaning! lol! -richard-  Sorry if I offended anyone, but for the record " Scientology Cult " was the legally correct term for a Canadian to write. I see nothing wrong with having cult status; might even be cool Smidgen of data; a WIKI with no (cite needed) on the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_status_by_country all good, Duncan > > Duncan, >  > Scientology is a religion not a cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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