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I apologize. I did not realize it was a problem. Will not send funnies again. BeccaJon Duffey <duffey@...> wrote: Please do not post mass mailings with recipient emails showing to thislist!!!! Use BLIND carbon setting on email program (BCC) if so compelled toshare your clever humor. The previous message sent to opensthose recipients to a flood of SPAM as this allows spammers to harvestthose emails... virtually making their email addresses useless becauseall the crap they'll be

getting.Spammers feed each other valid email addresses... so a single postinglike this will lead to HUNDREDS of unwanted messages flooding thosepeople mailboxes EVERY day. Not a nice thing to do. That message wasremoved in an effort to reduce the anger they WILL experience.

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Becca, the funnies are not the problem. It is just that all your friends and families addresses showed up, which opens them to spam. So when you send your funnies, just be sure to send it separate from the ones you send to others, then it will be fine. Also, be sure previous e-mail address are removed.

Debbie, Tom's wife in Oklahoma

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of BeccaSent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Posting etiquette

I apologize. I did not realize it was a problem. Will not send funnies again. BeccaJon Duffey <duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote:

Please do not post mass mailings with recipient emails showing to thislist!!!! Use BLIND carbon setting on email program (BCC) if so compelled toshare your clever humor. The previous message sent to opensthose recipients to a flood of SPAM as this allows spammers to harvestthose emails... virtually making their email addresses useless becauseall the crap they'll be getting.Spammers feed each other valid email addresses... so a single postinglike this will lead to HUNDREDS of unwanted messages flooding thosepeople mailboxes EVERY day. Not a nice thing to do. That message wasremoved in an effort to reduce the anger they WILL experience.

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Posting etiquette

> Will not send funnies again.

Becca:

I don't think that's even a little bit of what Duff meant. It's in the addresses. Sending to the includes a lot of people, but when you add other names in the address line, it makes those people and the vulnerable. You can, however, safely include all those other names in your BCC part of the Sending Block. That way thos names do not appear when they are received.

As for the funnies, I think they are an absolute necessity on this forum. If we are not laughing at something, we are left to our own thoughts, and that can be a scary thought by itself. The last time I had a thought of my own was when I saw a pretty girl walk in the room and had some not so nice, but very male ideas. The wife says I could get arrested for conspiracy to commit a foolingy. (I insisted i was a victim of gland theft.)

On a serious note, the wife and I have been going through the legal steps to get guardianship of granddaughters (ages 8 and 3), and that's why I have become a lurker as of late. We were pretty much raising them already, so they are doing fine, but we now have to deal with th courts, child protective services and a few other bureaucracies. Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrggggghhhh!

From California where my failure to housework as the wife told me to has made her sure that my device is a deafibrillator.

Bill

Jon Duffey <duffey@...> wrote:

Please do not post mass mailings with recipient emails showing to thislist!!!! Use BLIND carbon setting on email program (BCC) if so compelled toshare your clever humor. The previous message sent to opensthose recipients to a flood of SPAM as this allows spammers to harvestthose emails... virtually making their email addresses useless becauseall the crap they'll be getting.Spammers feed each other valid email addresses... so a single postinglike this will lead to HUNDREDS of unwanted messages flooding thosepeople mailboxes EVERY day. Not a nice thing to do. That message wasremoved in an effort to reduce the anger they WILL experience.

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I prefer to abstain completely from ever sending something forwarded to me to the Zaplist again. I have been a member of this group since 2002 and Jon Duffey ought to know by now that I would never do anything to jeopardize my relationship with the list. ly, I did not appreciate the tone of his email and he could have easily gotten in touch with me privately, instead of chastising me publicly like a child. So, my best defense is to just not post anything that is not directly connected with cardiac subjects. Becca (extremely put out in NC)Debbie <johnsonds17991@...> wrote: Becca, the funnies are not the problem. It is just that all your friends and families addresses showed up, which opens them to spam. So when you send your funnies, just be sure to send it separate from the ones you send to others, then it will be fine. Also, be sure previous e-mail address are removed. Debbie, Tom's wife in Oklahoma -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of BeccaSent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:06 AMTo:

Subject: Re: Posting etiquette I apologize. I did not realize it was a problem. Will not send funnies again. BeccaJon Duffey <duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote: Please do not post mass mailings with recipient emails showing to thislist!!!! Use BLIND carbon setting on email program (BCC) if so compelled toshare your clever humor. The previous message sent to opensthose recipients to a flood of SPAM as this allows spammers to harvestthose emails... virtually making their email addresses useless becauseall the crap they'll be getting.Spammers feed each other valid email addresses... so a single postinglike this will lead to HUNDREDS of unwanted messages flooding thosepeople mailboxes EVERY day. Not

a nice thing to do. That message wasremoved in an effort to reduce the anger they WILL experience. Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now.

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Becca;

I hear what you are saying... AND I am glad you are in NC!!! Sad you are put out though... Maybe Jon has had a bad day or week, but you are right the tone of his posting could have been softer!

You are always welcomed here no matter what the subject! I really enjoyed your funny!

Good luck to you and and Happy Thanksgiving!!!

~guin

RE: Posting etiquette

I prefer to abstain completely from ever sending something forwarded to me to the Zaplist again. I have been a member of this group since 2002 and Jon Duffey ought to know by now that I would never do anything to jeopardize my relationship with the list. ly, I did not appreciate the tone of his email and he could have easily gotten in touch with me privately, instead of chastising me publicly like a child. So, my best defense is to just not post anything that is not directly connected with cardiac subjects.

Becca

(extremely put out in NC)Debbie <johnsonds17991att (DOT) net> wrote:

Becca, the funnies are not the problem. It is just th at all your friends and families addresses showed up, which opens them to spam. So when you send your funnies, just be sure to send it separate from the ones you send to others, then it will be fine. Also, be sure previous e-mail address are removed.

Debbie, Tom's wife in Oklahoma

-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ]On Behalf Of BeccaSent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: Posting etiquette

I apologize. I did not realize it was a problem. Will not send funnies again. BeccaJon Duffey <duffeyduff (DOT) net> wrote:

Please do not post mass mailings with recipient emails showing to thislist!!!! Use BLIND carbon setting on email program (BCC) if so compelled toshare your clever humor. The previous message sent to opensthose recipients to a flood of SPAM as this allows spammers to harvestthose emails... virtually making their email addresses useless becauseall the crap they'll be getting.Spammers feed each other valid email addresses... so a single postinglike this will lead to HUNDREDS of unwanted messages flooding thosepeople mailboxes EVERY d ay. Not a nice thing to do. That message wasremoved in an effort to reduce the anger they WILL experience.

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> I apologize. I did not realize it was a problem. Will not send

funnies again.

No apologies necessary.. and please share funnies that you enjoy. With

the way the economy, foreign relations, energy prices, and our own

health is having a rough go right now... we need all the chuckles we

can attract. Just be careful to strip out the email addresses of

other recipients. Might be easier to highlight the relevant

content... and copy (^ C) to buffer... and paste to a fresh email with

only the address showing.

I know you intended no problem... it's just that there is a world of

internet predators out there who would sell their grandma if they

could turn a buck doing it. Harvesting email addresses has sadly

become a hot commodity among these crooks.

Because of " raids " by these creeps on the ZapperBBS... I increased the

security protocols and the main ramification has been another major

drop in use of that forum. I just want to avoid the same thing

happening here.

BTW... thanks, Bill, for your humorous perspective on sleep disorders.

More than a week after the second sleep study... and I still do not

have the new hardware in the bedroom. Between the Medical Equipment

suppliers... and the insurance company.... this has been a humorless

nightmare.

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I value the information everyone posts here. I find it helpful, informative,

and I like that we can all support each other through our TKR or THR journies.

However, I find it very annoying when people DON'T cut down what they are

responding to. You often have to scroll through repeats of several peoples'

posts, much of which isn't necessary to the response being given. I have

included an example of what I am referring to. I am in no way singling out a

particular person, as I find MANY people do what is shown below.

The first part of what is below is 's response to Diane. She is responding

to a particular question Diane had. Everything below the row of

************************* that I included is not necessary to the pertinent

information being provided.

I would REALLY, REALLY appreciate it if people could " clean up " the amount of

information they leave in messages they respond to. It is comon group etiquette

to do so. (The lymphadema group I belong to posts their posting rules

regularly, and what I am asking for here is one of the rules there.)

Thank you for your consideration.

> Diane - I was at 136 at 3 weeks post-surgery.

>

>

>

>

> ---- Original message ----

>

> Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 08:30:09 -0600

> From: Diane Thornton <leftoutknitter@...>

> Subject: Re: Re: [TKR]

> Re: Thanks to all!

> Joint Replacement

>

> >Andrienne and , what ROM did you have at 4

> weeks?

**********************************************************************8

> >

> >On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Bentley

> <sbentley@...> wrote:

> >

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi Adrienne - I was hoping for a disabled

> parking permit...but my OS (Dr.

> >> Coon) does not think they are a good idea. He

> wanted me to walk and walk and

> >> walk - said walking is the best thing for

> recovery. I'm 10 weeks post

> >> surgery and am doing well - quit outside PT

> after a month (mostly because my

> >> company changed insurance carriers). Since I've

> been back at work (where I

> >> probably walk nearly 10 blocks during the day -

> our office is HUGE) I only

> >> walk about 10 blocks in the evening after work,

> but on the weekends my

> >> longest walk is about 20 blocks at least once a

> day. I have an allergy to

> >> aspirin so I've only been on hydrocodone and it

> does work for me - but it is

> >> mild compared to other pain meds. I hope you

> are able to get some pain

> >> relief.

> >>

> >> RTKR-9/16/09

> >>

> >> Re: [TKR]

> Re: Thanks to all!

> >>

> >> Diane Thornton wrote:

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > OMG wish that had been my experience! I'm 4

> weeks (almost) post TKA. ROM

> >> > still annoys me. with lots of work it's about

> 97. But it starts about 70

> >> > and i have to work for an hour to get it up

> to 90. I'm doing my PT. Wish

> >> I

> >> > could have had the quad sparing because it

> sounds so great. I had

> >> previous

> >> > surgeries that excluded that option for me.

> The surgeon I picked is one

> >> of

> >> > the few around here who does that type and

> that's even why I picked him.

> >> > Anybody else feel tired at 4 weeks post-op? I

> have to nap lots if I do

> >> any

> >> > kind of activity.

> >> >

> >> > ===============================

> >> >

> >> Hi Diane;

> >> Yes, naps are my salvation. 23 days post-op,

> doing my P/T, very careful

> >> to drug up an hour before P/T, she works me

> pretty hard. Then I have a

> >> lite lunch and take my valium and go to bed.

> Wake up 3 hours later, most

> >> of the time amazed at how light it is at 4 (my

> brain says AM but

> >> eventually figures out it is PM). And I nap

> even if it is not P/T day,

> >> just not as long.

> >> I was on Percocet (no problems) but my doc has

> moved me to hydrocodone,

> >> which does not work as well. When I see him

> next week, I want to know

> >> why he thinks pain is good for me. He may be a

> tough guy but I sure

> >> ain't. But the valium is a guarantee that I

> will go to sleep,

> >> theoretically sleep heals?

> >> Massage of the leg/scar area really feels good,

> with nice massage cream

> >> of some sort that my P/T uses. I use Lubriderm,

> but I am not as firm

> >> (read: brutal) as she is.

> >> But the very best thing (I know I have said

> this before!) is my

> >> handicapped parking tag.

> >> Good luck to you.

> >> ///Adrienne

> >> >

> >> >

> >>

> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >>

> >> ------------------------------------

> >>

> >>

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Hi Donna,

That's very kind of you, but if you have something to post then you shouldn't

concern yourself about this. Anyone that objects to this practice can easily

scroll past the " offending " posts. You, or the entire group, can benefit from

your posts and you should not have to hold off from asking questions or posting

comments on others questions.

Thanks,

Jeff

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From: Donna Rae <rae900@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 3:15:06 AM

Subject: Re: Posting Etiquette

,

I really appreciate what you have asked for.  My problem is that I can't do what

you have asked with my webtv.  I can either post nothing or the whole thing but

I have tried several times to find out how to post just parts of a post.  I

can't seem to do it.  And I either have to retype the part I am referring to or

hope someone can piece together the parts I am discussing. 

I wish I had an answer.  I know I have friends who can do as you ask, but I can

either not post or post  and make you angry.  I would not be posting on the

other group you are discussing and that would make me sad as I enjoy posting.  I

will keep my posts to a minimum in an effort to comply with your request.

Donna R

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Hi Donna,

My post wasn't directly targeted at you. I want to apologize if I hurt your

feelings.

I don't have any experience with webtv, so can't provide any suggestions as to

how to circumvent your described problems. There isn't any available by phone

tech support, or e-mail support from your provider?

I would much rather have you post (with everything attached) than not post at

all. I would never want someone to NOT post because of this. All I ask is that

for those people who can eliminate the un-needed text, to please do so.

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Donna, I get around this problem by not getting posts emailed to me, I sign up

for " Web Only " on and just go to the group website to read any posts that

interest me. I don't read the whole posts if they are too long or repetitive.

Just a thought,

Hollie

>

> Hi Donna,

> My post wasn't directly targeted at you. I want to apologize if I hurt your

feelings.

> I don't have any experience with webtv, so can't provide any suggestions as to

how to circumvent your described problems. There isn't any available by phone

tech support, or e-mail support from your provider?

> I would much rather have you post (with everything attached) than not post at

all. I would never want someone to NOT post because of this. All I ask is that

for those people who can eliminate the un-needed text, to please do so.

>

>

>

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Hi Hollie,

Also if you are getting individual emails then the last message would be on top

(if the poster is top posting which most on this site do) and if not interested

you don't need to read down. I'm not certain but I think the concern is only if

you get the daily digest.

Jeff

________________________________

From: rosey9932000 <rosey9932000@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2009 1:00:45 PM

Subject: Re: Posting Etiquette

Donna, I get around this problem by not getting posts emailed to me, I sign up

for " Web Only " on and just go to the group website to read any posts that

interest me.  I don't read the whole posts if they are too long or repetitive.

Just a thought,

Hollie

>

> Hi Donna,

> My post wasn't directly targeted at you.  I want to apologize if I hurt your

feelings.

> I don't have any experience with webtv, so can't provide any suggestions as to

how to circumvent your described problems.  There isn't any available by phone

tech support, or e-mail support from your provider? 

> I would much rather have you post (with everything attached) than not post at

all.  I would never want someone to NOT post because of this.  All I ask is that

for those people who can eliminate the un-needed text, to please do so.

>

>

>

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