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Get thee to a homeopath ASAP!

All the best,

" Parents should decide through informed choice, which vaccines if any should

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given to their children "

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Welcome aboard Aimee! You will find a lot of great info here!

By the way, that was quite a debate we had, huh? :)

unvaxed mommy to Jaeden and Kendra (also both unvaxed)

<Hello everyone I wanted to introduce myself as a new member. My name

is Aimee (25), I am married to Steve (30) and have a 7 1/2 month old

Marah-Jade. I started finding out about not vaccinating from my sister

who is a massage therapist and has taken several courses in herbal

medicine. While I was pregnant with Marah-Jade I told DH I didn't want

to vaccinate and shared the information I could find at www.909shot.com.

He wasn't convinced it was the right thing to do. >

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welcome Aimee. I recognize you from several other boards (I hate the debate

board, I haven't been there in a couple of years). I have a separate folder

set up for this email, as it can occassionally get overwhelming. The

information is invaluable though & the ladies are TERRIFIC! (ok, the guys

too! lol)

in IL

sahm to 13, Chase 10, & Liam bf, co-sleeping, babyworn (outgrew the

strenght of my back), P/T EC, unvax'd Liam 4/3/03

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By the way, that was quite a debate we had, huh? :)

LOL, I just welcomed Aimee & said I haven't been to the debate board in

years (probably not that long, but the further I stay away from it, the

better off my blood pressure remains). I might have to go peek now! lol

in IL

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LOL, I agree, this is the first real debate I've been involved in and I

can't even begin to tell you how much my blood pressure went up! That's

why I don't visit debate boards either (the board we are on isn't a

debate board at all). I don't need the stress. :)

unvaxed mommy to Jaeden and Kendra (also both unvaxed)

LOL, I just welcomed Aimee & said I haven't been to the debate board in

years (probably not that long, but the further I stay away from it, the

better off my blood pressure remains). I might have to go peek now! lol

in IL

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At 03:02 AM 05/12/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>Hello everyone I wanted to introduce myself as a new member. My name is

Aimee (25), I am married to Steve (30) and have a 7 1/2 month old

Marah-Jade. I started finding out about not vaccinating from my sister who

is a massage therapist and has taken several courses in herbal medicine.

While I was pregnant with Marah-Jade I told DH I didn't want to vaccinate

and shared the information I could find at www.909shot.com. He wasn't

convinced it was the right thing to do.

>

>Fast forward to September 17th 2003. I was able to convince DH to skip

the Hep B vax in the hospital telling him her body was just to new and

delicate to pump full of a vaccine. When two months rolled around I took

her to the Doc and got her 4 vaxes Hib, Hep B, Pnemoccocal, and DaTP. I

cried through the entire episode. At 4 months I brought DH with me and she

was given 5 vaxes, Hib, Hep B, Pnemoccocal, DaTP and Polio. The nurse had

me hold Marah-Jade down while she gave her the shots and she clawed at me

screaming trying to get away from the nurse and looked at me like " Mom how

can you let her do this to me " . That was it, I cried and cried. I told DH

as soon as we left I was not giving her any more vaccinations. That

afternoon Marah-Jade was very lethargic, slept a lot and wasn't very

cheerful. She got a hot red spot around one of the puncture marks and DH

saw that and finally agreed to stop vaccinating. I was charged with finding

out as much information about vaxes that I could and we would decide at a

year old if we would continue vaccinating.

>

>Right now I have read a couple of books and visited some web sites and we

are leaning towards no more vaccinations. A debate on another website

connected me to one of the members of this board (Hi ) who directed

me here. I hope to learn a lot from you guys and get the support I cannot

seem to find an any of the medical community in my city (Spokane, WA) nor

from any of my friends.

>

>Professionally I work in project management. Are you familier with the

term Six Sigma? I am a Six sigma black belt in training. I use data and

statistics to make any business decisions for the bank I work for and I

support the business owners in making data driven decisions. So you see why

I would question vaccinations. I am a woman of proof :)

>

>So that leads me to my first question. Is there anything I can do to

correct any damage I may have done to my daughters body by giving her those

nine vaccinations?

>

HI!

So glad you listened to your intution finally.

Seeing a homeopath can go a long way to helping get rid of the disturbance

caused by the vaccines

You'll hear more about homeopathy on this list from me and others ;-)

Here is a list of homeopaths I maintain

See if there is one near you or even good to travel a distance for first

visit as follow ups can often be by phone.

FIND THE BEST

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com

click on find a homeopath

welcome

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Homeopathy On-Line course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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No doubt. I just don't understand how the vaxing moms had the right to hijack

our thread and then accuse us of making them sound like bad mommies for

vaccinating. Oh well. I learned my lesson, don't be duped into providing

information to a vaccinating mom pretending to be curious!

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Actually it wasn't even the debate board it was our playgroup. Someone

asked for information on not vaccinating and and I got attacked once we

provided it. It was craziness.

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Actually it wasn't even the debate board it was our playgroup. Someone

> asked for information on not vaccinating and and I got attacked once

we

> provided it. It was craziness.

That's just plain crappy. There's a mom on the april 04 board whose 17 day old

son died from pertussis & the mom's blaming it on someone that was unvax'd even

though her adult sisters came to visit the new baby & both had pertussis. She

doesn't understand that this is one disease that hasn't eradicated yet. I feel

so bad that she lost her son, and figure she has to blame someone to cope. I've

read great posts from moms that totally stood up for their right & decision to

not vaccinate. I wanted so bad to post, but it was totally NOT my place LOL

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Hi Aimee & Marah-Jade

Welcome to the board.

My dd is one year old on Monday and has had no vax but we are always

getting pressured still to get them done. We think it's the best

thing for us not to have any done, although a personal decision.

I'm sure you'll come accross lots of useful info here and on the

net. Have you been to think twice and whale? I like Neil s

books also.

Now my baby is over a year we know we've saved her ever having to

have the hibb as they only give that to under 1s here (uk) and the

next hurdle will be around mmr time for pressure in a couple of

months I'm expecting the call ups etc.

I wont talk of the reasons not to vaccinate as i figure you probably

know those already. Sorry to hear your dd had a bit of a reaction

and the experience on top of vaccination worries must've been very

difficult for you too. I would say concentrate now on strengthening

her natural immune system, good diet, exercise so she can fight off

any infections for the future.

I am guessing you're in america or canada?

It's interesting i find the differences in vaccination policies

worldwide, for instance we use live polio which i beleive in america

was replaced due to concerns! and yet in america they vaccinate

against chicken pox, which here is considered a normal mild

illness. It's also odd how then to me people can worry over mmr but

accept other diseases as not a problem.

People in my country are pretty paranoid about everything, it's a

shame.

Anyway welcome to the board.

ttfn

> Hello everyone I wanted to introduce myself as a new member. My

name is Aimee (25), I am married to Steve (30) and have a 7 1/2

month old Marah-Jade. I started finding out about not vaccinating

from my sister who is a massage therapist and has taken several

courses in herbal medicine. While I was pregnant with Marah-Jade I

told DH I didn't want to vaccinate and shared the information I

could find at www.909shot.com. He wasn't convinced it was the right

thing to do.

>

> Fast forward to September 17th 2003. I was able to convince DH to

skip the Hep B vax in the hospital telling him her body was just to

new and delicate to pump full of a vaccine. When two months rolled

around I took her to the Doc and got her 4 vaxes Hib, Hep B,

Pnemoccocal, and DaTP. I cried through the entire episode. At 4

months I brought DH with me and she was given 5 vaxes, Hib, Hep B,

Pnemoccocal, DaTP and Polio. The nurse had me hold Marah-Jade down

while she gave her the shots and she clawed at me screaming trying

to get away from the nurse and looked at me like " Mom how can you

let her do this to me " . That was it, I cried and cried. I told DH as

soon as we left I was not giving her any more vaccinations. That

afternoon Marah-Jade was very lethargic, slept a lot and wasn't very

cheerful. She got a hot red spot around one of the puncture marks

and DH saw that and finally agreed to stop vaccinating. I was

charged with finding out as much information about vaxes that I

could and we would decide at a year old if we would continue

vaccinating.

>

> Right now I have read a couple of books and visited some web sites

and we are leaning towards no more vaccinations. A debate on another

website connected me to one of the members of this board (Hi

) who directed me here. I hope to learn a lot from you guys

and get the support I cannot seem to find an any of the medical

community in my city (Spokane, WA) nor from any of my friends.

>

> Professionally I work in project management. Are you familier with

the term Six Sigma? I am a Six sigma black belt in training. I use

data and statistics to make any business decisions for the bank I

work for and I support the business owners in making data driven

decisions. So you see why I would question vaccinations. I am a

woman of proof :)

>

> So that leads me to my first question. Is there anything I can do

to correct any damage I may have done to my daughters body by giving

her those nine vaccinations?

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  • 1 year later...

>

> Hello Everyone,

> I was delighted to come across your group today. I've never had the

> opportunity to discuss my fragrant matters with other fragrance

> freaks. >

Hi Corin

Welcome to the group, and thank you for posting your introductory message. We

have several new members and it would be nice to hear from them as well - as

soon as they feel up to posting :o)

Let me make this a " welcome all " message whilst I'm here, as time has been tight

recently and without Anya (downed after Wilma - but thankfully, almost fully -

back now!) the niceties of welcoming new members got side tracked a little.

> Interests:

> -Whole herb fragrancing with both infused oils and tinctures

> -Local California and western states native plants

> -Hydrosols.

If you take a few moments (lie! - hours!) to check through the archives I'm sure

you will find lots to enthrall you, particularly as you seem to have an interest

in tincturing! May I suggest you search for both " goat hair " and " Bee goo " ?

I'm sure you will be amazed at what the " fragrance freaks " on this group get up

to !

LLx

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Hi folks:

I'm new to the list, so thought I'd introduce myself so that I can get to know

everybody :-)

My name is Jassy and I live high up in the hills in Western Massachusetts, USA,

on a 19 acre farm. I'm a European transplant, having been born and raised in

the United Kingdom. Currently, I'm a sex therapist, with private clinical

practices in the Boston area, and also in Northampton, Massachusetts. I also

have a therapy practice online. I'm 53 years old, married, and have an amazing

30 year old daughter, and an equally wonderful and amazing granddaughter. Over

the last ten years I've had several " key hole " surgeries on both knees for

miniscal tears and at the same time the surgeon has scraped out the " debris " as

he has called it. By this I believe he means arthritic calcification on the

knee joints. At this point there's no cartilage left in my knees. I've had two

course of Synvisc shots, and attempted another series of shots but I had such a

horrible reaction I couldn't walk for two weeks! So, now I'm looking at TKR on

both knees at some point. I was reading about the " Journey Knee " manufactured

by and Nephew. It's a gender-specific knee, tailored specifically for

women. It's supposed to be lighter, has a faster recovery time (they say it

knocks about 6 weeks off recovery) and is made primarily of ceramic compound.

Have any of you had this knee or have you heard anything about it? I've been

doing some research online and so far, it's sounding great. Any

ideas/suggestions/personal history with this particular knee replacement option?

Glad to have found you all and looking forward to learning from your collective

wisdom!

Best,

Jassy

************************************************

Jassy Timberlake, M.Ed., LMFT

Sex Therapist and Licensed Psychotherapist

Psychotherapy Blog " Other Side of the Couch " www.JassyTimberlake.blogspot.com

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Welcome Jassy....you will learn alot here. I had bilateral TKR on Aug. 21 and am doing quite well....No major complications....I have a Stryker knee so I cant help you with particular knees but I'm sure others here can . Ask all the questions you can think of.....

Marguerite.

10/14/07, jassy@... <jassy@...

> wrote:

Hi folks:I'm new to the list, so thought I'd introduce myself so that I can get to knoweverybody :-)My name is Jassy and I live high up in the hills in Western Massachusetts, USA,on a 19 acre farm. I'm a European transplant, having been born and raised in

the United Kingdom. Currently, I'm a sex therapist, with private clinicalpractices in the Boston area, and also in Northampton, Massachusetts. I alsohave a therapy practice online. I'm 53 years old, married, and have an amazing

30 year old daughter, and an equally wonderful and amazing granddaughter. Overthe last ten years I've had several " key hole " surgeries on both knees forminiscal tears and at the same time the surgeon has scraped out the " debris " as

he has called it. By this I believe he means arthritic calcification on theknee joints. At this point there's no cartilage left in my knees. I've had twocourse of Synvisc shots, and attempted another series of shots but I had such a

horrible reaction I couldn't walk for two weeks! So, now I'm looking at TKR onboth knees at some point. I was reading about the " Journey Knee " manufacturedby and Nephew. It's a gender-specific knee, tailored specifically for

women. It's supposed to be lighter, has a faster recovery time (they say itknocks about 6 weeks off recovery) and is made primarily of ceramic compound. Have any of you had this knee or have you heard anything about it? I've been

doing some research online and so far, it's sounding great. Anyideas/suggestions/personal history with this particular knee replacement option?Glad to have found you all and looking forward to learning from your collective

wisdom!Best,Jassy************************************************Jassy Timberlake, M.Ed., LMFTSex Therapist and Licensed PsychotherapistPsychotherapy Blog " Other Side of the Couch " www.JassyTimberlake.blogspot.com

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Hi, welcome to the group!

I'm also looking forward to some info about Journey! Any experience,

anyone???

Maarit...in Lapland...

>

> Hi folks:

>

> I'm new to the list, so thought I'd introduce myself so that I can

get to know

> everybody :-)

>

> My name is Jassy and I live high up in the hills in Western

Massachusetts, USA,

> on a 19 acre farm. I'm a European transplant, having been born and

raised in

> the United Kingdom. Currently, I'm a sex therapist, with private

clinical

> practices in the Boston area, and also in Northampton,

Massachusetts. I also

> have a therapy practice online. I'm 53 years old, married, and

have an amazing

> 30 year old daughter, and an equally wonderful and amazing

granddaughter. Over

> the last ten years I've had several " key hole " surgeries on both

knees for

> miniscal tears and at the same time the surgeon has scraped out

the " debris " as

> he has called it. By this I believe he means arthritic

calcification on the

> knee joints. At this point there's no cartilage left in my knees.

I've had two

> course of Synvisc shots, and attempted another series of shots but

I had such a

> horrible reaction I couldn't walk for two weeks! So, now I'm

looking at TKR on

> both knees at some point. I was reading about the " Journey Knee "

manufactured

> by and Nephew. It's a gender-specific knee, tailored

specifically for

> women. It's supposed to be lighter, has a faster recovery time

(they say it

> knocks about 6 weeks off recovery) and is made primarily of ceramic

compound.

> Have any of you had this knee or have you heard anything about it?

I've been

> doing some research online and so far, it's sounding great. Any

> ideas/suggestions/personal history with this particular knee

replacement option?

>

> Glad to have found you all and looking forward to learning from

your collective

> wisdom!

>

> Best,

> Jassy

>

> ************************************************

> Jassy Timberlake, M.Ed., LMFT

> Sex Therapist and Licensed Psychotherapist

> Psychotherapy Blog " Other Side of the Couch "

www.JassyTimberlake.blogspot.com

>

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I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and tibial component for women (and men).

I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( & Nephew).

I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to training specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure the doc is doing the right stuff.

& Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

Ann

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Hi, welcome to the group!I'm also looking forward to some info about Journey! Any experience, anyone???Maarit...in Lapland...>> Hi folks:> > I'm new to the list, so thought I'd introduce myself so that I can get to know> everybody :-)> > My name is Jassy and I live high up in the hills in Western Massachusetts, USA,> on a 19 acre farm. I'm a European transplant, having been born and raised in> the United Kingdom. Currently, I'm a sex therapist, with private clinical> practices in the Boston area, and also in Northampton, Massachusetts. I also> have a therapy practice online. I'm 53 years old, married, and have an amazing> 30 year old daughter, and an equally wonderful and amazing granddaughter. Over> the last ten years I've had several "key hole" surgeries on both knees for> miniscal tears and at the same time the surgeon has scraped out the "debris" as> he has called it. By this I believe he means arthritic calcification on the> knee joints. At this point there's no cartilage left in my knees. I've had two> course of Synvisc shots, and attempted another series of shots but I had such a> horrible reaction I couldn't walk for two weeks! So, now I'm looking at TKR on> both knees at some point. I was reading about the "Journey Knee" manufactured> by and Nephew. It's a gender-specific knee, tailored specifically for> women. It's supposed to be lighter, has a faster recovery time (they say it> knocks about 6 weeks off recovery) and is made primarily of ceramic compound. > Have any of you had this knee or have you heard anything about it? I've been> doing some research online and so far, it's sounding great. Any> ideas/suggestions/personal history with this particular knee replacement option?> > Glad to have found you all and looking forward to learning from your collective> wisdom!> > Best,> Jassy> > ************************************************> Jassy Timberlake, M.Ed., LMFT> Sex Therapist and Licensed Psychotherapist> Psychotherapy Blog "Other Side of the Couch" www.JassyTimberlake.blogspot.com>

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I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

who will do it.

I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind of

hip that is put in.

I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

view on record.

Aussie Margaret

LTHR 1990 revised 2004

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I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

tibial component for women (and men).

I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

Nephew).

I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then

find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to training

specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure the

doc is doing the right stuff.

& Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether

it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

Ann

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Hi Ann and Margeret,

Perhaps it is a bit of both of what you have writtne. I agree with

Margeret (if she means) that it will be hard for us as layman to know

which prosthesis is the best, we would many times only get to read

material on prostheses that is biased and we would anyway miss the

indepth techinical/medical knowledge to make a sensible choice for a device.

But it is also very important that the surgeon really knows all the ins

and outs of the prosthesis that you will get. It is also essential that

he has good knowledge of all the different bone qualities found in

patients and how to respond properly to each of them. He may therefore

even choose a different type of implant depending on the patient's

condition, level of activity, measurements and weight. A long experience

is therefore needed before knowing all the peculiar advantages of each

implant type. Uneducated as most of us are we would probably not derive

at the right type of device, not forgetting either that the knee is a

very tricky kind of joint.

Ron van Mierlo

RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

Margaret skrev:

> I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

> who will do it.

>

> I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind of

> hip that is put in.

>

> I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

> view on record.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> LTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new member

>

>

> I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

> told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

> tibial component for women (and men).

>

> I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

> Nephew).

>

> I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then

> find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

>

> The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to training

> specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

> addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure the

> doc is doing the right stuff.

>

> & Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether

> it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

> asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

>

> Ann

>

>

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Ron --

I am fortunate to have found a guy who has had both THR (7 1/2 years ago)

and resurfacing (2 1/2 years ago). Even better he is a respected dentist

who is somewhat educated about anatomy and the repair of hard tissue.

He says that he prefers resurfacing because the recovery time was

significantly shorter and because there are fewer limitations. Apparently

his Stryker prosthesis has an " elbow " , if you will, that limits his range of

motion. However, he also acknowledges that resurfacing is not possible if

the femoral bone is seriously deteriorated.

Cheers,

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Hi Ann and Margeret,

Perhaps it is a bit of both of what you have writtne. I agree with

Margeret (if she means) that it will be hard for us as layman to know

which prosthesis is the best, we would many times only get to read

material on prostheses that is biased and we would anyway miss the

indepth techinical/medical knowledge to make a sensible choice for a device.

But it is also very important that the surgeon really knows all the ins

and outs of the prosthesis that you will get. It is also essential that

he has good knowledge of all the different bone qualities found in

patients and how to respond properly to each of them. He may therefore

even choose a different type of implant depending on the patient's

condition, level of activity, measurements and weight. A long experience

is therefore needed before knowing all the peculiar advantages of each

implant type. Uneducated as most of us are we would probably not derive

at the right type of device, not forgetting either that the knee is a

very tricky kind of joint.

Ron van Mierlo

RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

Margaret skrev:

> I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

> who will do it.

>

> I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind

of

> hip that is put in.

>

> I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

> view on record.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> LTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new member

>

>

> I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

> told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

> tibial component for women (and men).

>

> I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

> Nephew).

>

> I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then

> find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

>

> The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to

training

> specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

> addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure

the

> doc is doing the right stuff.

>

> & Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether

> it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

> asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

>

> Ann

>

>

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Hi Margaret --

Your logic makes sense to me too. However, based on just a little

experience, I am beginning to suspect that many surgeons come with their

built in preferences. I am looking for a surgeon who can say " I have done a

hundred Strykers, a hundred Zimmers, two hundred s, and a hundred

fifty BioMets and my broad experience leads me to recommend X for you. " Has

anybody met such a renaissance surgeon?

I fear that as soon as you choose the surgeon you will have to settle for

her/his favorite prosthesis, which may or may not be the best choice for

you.

Cheers,

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I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

who will do it.

I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind of

hip that is put in.

I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

view on record.

Aussie Margaret

LTHR 1990 revised 2004

Re: Re: Introduction from new member

I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

tibial component for women (and men).

I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

Nephew).

I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then

find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to training

specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure the

doc is doing the right stuff.

& Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether

it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

Ann

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> fifty BioMets and my broad experience leads me to recommend X for you. "

> Has

> anybody met such a renaissance surgeon?

Hi

My surgeon and the Institute comes pretty close to that. I asked about what

was available and he went down the list of the pros and cons of each one and

why they felt I can't remember what I have was the best overall. The same

way with the different procedures, I got the full run down.

It really comes down to many of the newer devices/procedures just do not

have a proven track record. Some hospitals will allow the cutting edge to

be used, many prefer a more traditional approach.

Gloria

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Yes I have almost weekly contact with one of them, Dr. Koen De Smet in

Gent, Belgium!

He has placed over 3500 traditional hip prostheses of different types

and over 2700 resurfacings of different makes. He still does place THRs

occasionally but prefers resurfacing.

See his website for more details:

http://www.hip-clinic.com/en/html/home_en.html

Also have a look at my listing on resurfacing surgeons with many details

on each surgeon (even onTHRs used if known):

http://resurfacingscan.be/drforeign.htm

Ron van Mierlo

RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

Fremon skrev:

> Hi Margaret --

>

> Your logic makes sense to me too. However, based on just a little

> experience, I am beginning to suspect that many surgeons come with their

> built in preferences. I am looking for a surgeon who can say " I have done a

> hundred Strykers, a hundred Zimmers, two hundred s, and a hundred

> fifty BioMets and my broad experience leads me to recommend X for you. " Has

> anybody met such a renaissance surgeon?

>

> I fear that as soon as you choose the surgeon you will have to settle for

> her/his favorite prosthesis, which may or may not be the best choice for

> you.

>

> Cheers,

>

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new member

>

> I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

> who will do it.

>

> I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind of

>

> hip that is put in.

>

> I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

> view on record.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> LTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new member

>

>

> I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

> told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

> tibial component for women (and men).

>

> I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

> Nephew).

>

> I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want & then

> find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

>

> The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to training

> specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

> addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure the

>

> doc is doing the right stuff.

>

> & Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know whether

> it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

> asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

>

> Ann

>

>

>

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Thanks Ron –

It is good to know that one does exist.

Sorry he doesn’t work in my town.

Best wishes,

From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Ron & Eefje

Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007

12:38 PM

Joint Replacement

Subject: Re:

Re: Introduction from new member

Yes I

have almost weekly contact with one of them, Dr. Koen De Smet in

Gent, Belgium!

He has placed over 3500 traditional hip prostheses of different types

and over 2700 resurfacings of different makes. He still does place THRs

occasionally but prefers resurfacing.

See his website for more details:

http://www.hip-clinic.com/en/html/home_en.html

Also have a look at my listing on resurfacing surgeons with many details

on each surgeon (even onTHRs used if known):

http://resurfacingscan.be/drforeign.htm

Ron van Mierlo

RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

Fremon skrev:

> Hi Margaret --

>

> Your logic makes sense to me too. However, based on just a little

> experience, I am beginning to suspect that many surgeons come with their

> built in preferences. I am looking for a surgeon who can say " I have

done a

> hundred Strykers, a hundred Zimmers, two hundred s, and a hundred

> fifty BioMets and my broad experience leads me to recommend X for

you. " Has

> anybody met such a renaissance surgeon?

>

> I fear that as soon as you choose the surgeon you will have to settle for

> her/his favorite prosthesis, which may or may not be the best choice for

> you.

>

> Cheers,

>

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new

member

>

> I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the doctor

> who will do it.

>

> I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the kind

of

>

> hip that is put in.

>

> I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different point of

> view on record.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> LTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Re: Re: Introduction from new

member

>

>

> I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors

have

> told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

> tibial component for women (and men).

>

> I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

> Nephew).

>

> I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want &

then

> find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

>

> The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to

training

> specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

> addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make sure

the

>

> doc is doing the right stuff.

>

> & Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know

whether

> it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

> asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

>

> Ann

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Perhaps you should have written from the start that you were looking

only for local surgeons, but in that case: did you look at my list?

But anyhow, the general opinion (which I fully agree with) is that a

patient should not limit him/herself to local surgeons but look for the

best possible surgeons around for the job, wherever that may be! The

chance is namely very big that a local is just too unexperienced with

the hip resurfacing procedure that I had in mind. That is exactly how I

as Swedish resident came to choose Dr. De Smet in Belgium! I just did

not want any Swedish surgeons touch me who only had done a few of these

resurfacing operations.

If it is worth doing then it is worth doing the best way possible!

But so far I get the impression that you do not really want this anyway,

your simple " Sorry he doesn't work in my town " is just a little too

casual to be from a seriously searching person. I know that I would have

jumped at similar hints given to me.

Ron van Mierlo

RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

Fremon skrev:

>

> Thanks Ron –

>

> It is good to know that one does exist. Sorry he doesn’t work in my town.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

> *From:* Joint Replacement

> [mailto:Joint Replacement ] *On Behalf Of *Ron &

> Eefje

> *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:38 PM

> *To:* Joint Replacement

> *Subject:* Re: Re: Introduction from new member

>

> Yes I have almost weekly contact with one of them, Dr. Koen De Smet in

> Gent, Belgium!

>

> He has placed over 3500 traditional hip prostheses of different types

> and over 2700 resurfacings of different makes. He still does place THRs

> occasionally but prefers resurfacing.

> See his website for more details:

> http://www.hip-clinic.com/en/html/home_en.html

> <http://www.hip-clinic.com/en/html/home_en.html>

> Also have a look at my listing on resurfacing surgeons with many details

> on each surgeon (even onTHRs used if known):

> http://resurfacingscan.be/drforeign.htm

> <http://resurfacingscan.be/drforeign.htm>

>

> Ron van Mierlo

> RH BHR 2007-01-23 Dr. De Smet

>

> Fremon skrev:

> > Hi Margaret --

> >

> > Your logic makes sense to me too. However, based on just a little

> > experience, I am beginning to suspect that many surgeons come with their

> > built in preferences. I am looking for a surgeon who can say " I have

> done a

> > hundred Strykers, a hundred Zimmers, two hundred s, and a hundred

> > fifty BioMets and my broad experience leads me to recommend X for

> you. " Has

> > anybody met such a renaissance surgeon?

> >

> > I fear that as soon as you choose the surgeon you will have to settle for

> > her/his favorite prosthesis, which may or may not be the best choice for

> > you.

> >

> > Cheers,

> >

> >

> > Re: Re: Introduction from new member

> >

> > I actually disagree about finding the prosthesis you want then the

> doctor

> > who will do it.

> >

> > I say find the best surgeon you can, and be guided by them as to the

> kind of

> >

> > hip that is put in.

> >

> > I'm not asking you to change your mind, just putting a different

> point of

> > view on record.

> >

> > Aussie Margaret

> > LTHR 1990 revised 2004

> >

> > Re: Re: Introduction from new member

> >

> >

> > I haven't had one put in, but based on my research & what 3 doctors have

> > told me, the Journey looks like the best combo of femoral component and

> > tibial component for women (and men).

> >

> > I don't have anything to do with the company that makes them ( &

> > Nephew).

> >

> > I do feel that it's a good idea to choose the type of knee you want &

> then

> > find a doctor who's been doing that knee for at least 2 years.

> >

> > The nurse of one of the docs I talked to said that the doc went to

> training

> > specifically for the Journey and got certified to use that implant. In

> > addition, she said that a company rep comes to each surgery to make

> sure the

> >

> > doc is doing the right stuff.

> >

> > & Nephew also offer computer-assisted surgery. I don't know

> whether

> > it's a routine part of surgeries for this knee, but I think it's worth

> > asking for, if a person's insurance won't balk at paying for it.

> >

> > Ann

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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