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Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences - it's

really appreciated! Yes, I figured there would be an imbalance of more folks

here with problems than those without (who have moved on). But since I'm on

the verge of such a major surgery, it's easy to have your confidence

shaken.

My issues are fourfold:

1) I have spent several years building up to this point where the pain is

almost constant (mid-level to killer flare ups at night or when walking or

after mild exercise), and now widespread enough to be hard to tolerate;

plus, my normal life (sleeping/walking) is regularly disturbed enough to feel

I need to take action. The hip has buckled once (on the stairs!) and after

nearly three years, the shots cost more and help less. BUT every once in a

while, the pain subsides for a few hours or a day, then I have doubts.

2) Not being able to tolerate most pain meds due to GI issues. My OS says

he'd rather I deal with the pain than the problems the pain meds cause.

3) My husband is retired and I work only part time as the director of a

crisis helpline, so money and scheduling are challenging. Doable, but thought

provoking. I'd made the decision to act now; he's suggesting I wait until

next year.

4) A second surgical opinion - my instinct is always to have one,

especially for something this big. Yet, as I noted, I'm seeing the head of the

OS

dept. of a respected hospital, he does several joint replacements every

week, he has no complaints/suits on record, he has not rushed me, and I've

heard other patients praise him highly. And Aetna Insurance does not require

one. I would tell someone else to get one regardless of the cost and time

lost. Agree, disagree?

Thank you.

In a message dated 7/16/2010 9:19:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jujulabee@... writes:

Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of

human nature

Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they are

over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of people

with NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get information

prior to surgery and then may stick around as they heal but then get on with

their normal lives and stop posting.

This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to point

out that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of the surgery

- especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have a major surgery

in the first place.

Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for most

people the regret is that they waited so long as their life became whittled

down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from participating in normal

activities and pain made their lives a misery even when sitting, lying

down or trying to sleep.

When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time, it's

because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide when the

quality of their life has become compromised enough to have the surgery.

Some people wait until they are walking around with canes and are essentially

immobile while others opt for surgery when they can no longer be what I

would call normally active.

For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is gone. Sure

there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery but it's a

totally different kind of discomfort and for most people is very well

controlled

with pain medication. That is one question, one should ask one's OS -- i.e

what his pain management regime consists of.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 06:05 AM, Carmel Santos <pureenergy7@...> wrote:

You will know when it's time, when you can't walk anymore and your hip

pain becomes so unbearable, your hip stiffens up or buckles under you. Mine

was bone on bone in the end making even going to the mall a chore because I

had to make frequent stops because my hip was so sore and I couldn't walk

any further, then my challenge would be to get back to my car. Even though

I'm still in pain after six years, at least I can walk, dance and do

mostly whatever I want. I still go to aquafit and work out in the water.

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Subject: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related

area pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in

the groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only

take anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side,

regularly making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared

up enough that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain

several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It

makes me question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the

surgery - he has said that I'll know when it's time I thought now was it, but

your experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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You will know when it's time, when you can't walk anymore and your hip pain

becomes so unbearable, your hip stiffens up or buckles under you.  Mine was bone

on bone in the end making even going to the mall a chore because I had to make

frequent stops because my hip was so sore and I couldn't walk any further, then

my challenge would be to get back to my car.  Even though I'm still in pain

after six years, at least I can walk, dance and do mostly whatever I want.  I

still go to aquafit and work out in the water.

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Subject: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm considering

having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is head

of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and back,

which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult.  Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery - he

has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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Do it, do it, do it! It is the best thing I ever did for myself. I waited

years, and was unable to fully enjoy my life during those years. I wish I had

those years back. Life is too precious to waste living in pain waiting for the

day when you can once again live a full life.

I will say that I strongly recommend you seek a surgeon who does the anterior

approach. It has a much faster recovery time, as there's much less damage to

muscles and tendons. I am 3 1/2 months post-op and my life is back. I no

longer have to lift my leg to get into bed, or go up the stairs one step at a

time. I don't make my decisions about where I'm going based upon how much

walking is involved. I don't wake up at night because I tried to turn over in

my sleep and severe pain woke me up.

Do it!

________________________________

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:15:56 PM

Subject: to have THR or not?

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm considering

having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is head

of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and back,

which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery - he

has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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This is very well said.

I¹m not sure why I¹m still on this forum. The rest of my life¹s sort of

chaotic right now ­ maybe I need something straightforward to write emails

about. But normally I wouldn¹t be here. My knee doesn¹t hurt any more, I

can do everything I could do before it started degenerating, and I never

think about it. People like me usually drop out of the forum.

On the trail yesterday I ran into a woman I hadn¹t seen for a while (she

herself had had a hip replaced, and urged me to get my knee fixed, several

years ago) and she recalled for me how much pain I had been in. I really

had forgotten about it. I was crazy to wait as long as I did, and I didn¹t

wait as long as some.

My oldest son is in some family difficulties, and his brother-in-law, my

daughter¹s husband, says that the son hasn¹t taken radical action to correct

his situation because ³he isn¹t in enough pain yet.² That¹s what the OS

means. After you hit your personal break point and get tired enough of

having pain every time you take a step, you have the surgery, which is a

CURE, and then you say, ³I can¹t figure out why I waited so long.² And then

you forget about the whole thing, and drop out of this group.

F

TKR 1/15/09

on 7/16/10 6:18 AM, jujulabee@... at jujulabee@... wrote:

> Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of human

> nature

>

> Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they are

> over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of people with

> NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get information prior to

> surgery and then may stick around as they heal but then get on with their

> normal lives and stop posting.

>

> This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to point out

> that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of the surgery -

> especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have a major surgery in the

> first place.

>

> Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for most

> people the regret is that they waited so long as their life became whittled

> down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from participating in normal

> activities and pain made their lives a misery even when sitting, lying down or

> trying to sleep.

>

> When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time, it's

> because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide when the

> quality of their life has become compromised enough to have the surgery. Some

> people wait until they are walking around with canes and are essentially

> immobile while others opt for surgery when they can no longer be what I would

> call normally active.

>

> For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

> afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is gone. Sure

> there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery but it's a totally

> different kind of discomfort and for most people is very well controlled with

> pain medication. That is one question, one should ask one's OS -- i.e what his

> pain management regime consists of.

>

> On Jul 16, 2010, at 06:05 AM, Carmel Santos <pureenergy7@...> wrote:

>

> You will know when it's time, when you can't walk anymore and your hip pain

> becomes so unbearable, your hip stiffens up or buckles under you.  Mine was

> bone on bone in the end making even going to the mall a chore because I had to

> make frequent stops because my hip was so sore and I couldn't walk any

> further, then my challenge would be to get back to my car.  Even though I'm

> still in pain after six years, at least I can walk, dance and do mostly

> whatever I want.  I still go to aquafit and work out in the water.

>

>

>

> From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

> Subject: to have THR or not?

> Joint Replacement

> Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

> considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho

> surgeon (who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and

> related area pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone

> shots in the groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can

> only take anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

> making sleeping and walking difficult.  Last week the pain had flared up

> enough that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

> months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

> me question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

> he has said that I'll know when it's time I thought now was it, but your

> experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

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I was walking on my own without aids for a long time before I decided it was

time to have the hip surgery.  My OS also told me that I would know when it's

time to have the surgery and he also told me that if I wanted to walk " normally "

again I would have no choice but to have the surgery.  I live in Ontario, Canada

so I could have the surgery when I chose to have it although the wait time here

is very long.  Sometimes we think we can go on just for awhile longer so we can

postpone the surgery.  Once my hip started buckling and I couldn't stand

straight I knew it was time.  I have gone on with my life doing what I enjoy

doing everyday with the slight pain I am having.  I did not post on here for a

long time but did check in to see what was new. Unfortunalety, my OS noticed

bone growth after six years of having the surgery but everyone is different.  My

OS is very well known here in Ontario and is also a professor teaching about

joint replacements at a very prominent university.  You will know when it's

time.

 

 

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Subject: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm considering

having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is head

of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and back,

which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult.  Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery - he

has said that I'll know when it's time I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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I am one that has had problems...and I would tell you to have it done if you

feel it is necessary. The problems on a % basis are very low. If you feel

comfortable with the Surgeon and Hospital I would go through with it.

Good Luck,

Rich.

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area

pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the

groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take

anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

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Hi ...

I am looking at having a knee replaced in the fall.  Regarding second

opinions...I got three.

1st doctor has three strikes against her

a.  she would put any knee in " I " want.  I don't want a doctor who asks me

what I want...I want one who can tell me what I 'need' and why.

b.  she said quad sparing was not successful...but would do it if I wanted her

to.  Oh great!!!  I know that is not true about quad sparing.

c. how many knees has she replaced...answer was " between 100 and 1000 " .  She

really didn't know.  She had no idea of her infection percent.

2nd doctor..spend over an hour and a half with me.  He explained all he would

do and why being I am obese.  Invited me to speak with one of his patients that

was waiting to see him..which I did.  Very positive...yet honest.

 

3rd doctor.  He was pompous.  Very discouraging about my situation for the

reasons he felt were valid...which were false.

 

So...Had I gone with opinion number 1...who knows what would have happened.

Opinion #3 left me feeling hopeless.

My second opinion was the one that I felt knew what he was doing and why.

Bottom line...I truly believe multiple opinions with major surgery are good. 

Gives you knowledge with each doctor you speak and allows you to make a better

decision.

Good luck...

Gayle

P.S.  Have the surgery when YOU are ready and it's convenient for you.

4) A second surgical opinion - my instinct is always to have one,

especially for something this big. Yet, as I noted, I'm seeing the head of the

OS

dept. of a respected hospital, he does several joint replacements every

week, he has no complaints/suits on record, he has not rushed me, and I've

heard other patients praise him highly. And Aetna Insurance does not require

one. I would tell someone else to get one regardless of the cost and time

lost. Agree, disagree?

Thank you.

In a message dated 7/16/2010 9:19:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jujulabee@... writes:

Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of

human nature

Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they are

over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of people

with NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get information

prior to surgery and then may stick around as they heal but then get on with

their normal lives and stop posting.

This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to point

out that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of the surgery

- especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have a major surgery

in the first place.

Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for most

people the regret is that they waited so long as their life became whittled

down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from participating in normal

activities and pain made their lives a misery even when sitting, lying

down or trying to sleep.

When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time, it's

because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide when the

quality of their life has become compromised enough to have the surgery.

Some people wait until they are walking around with canes and are essentially

immobile while others opt for surgery when they can no longer be what I

would call normally active.

For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is gone. Sure

there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery but it's a

totally different kind of discomfort and for most people is very well controlled

with pain medication. That is one question, one should ask one's OS -- i.e

what his pain management regime consists of.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 06:05 AM, Carmel Santos <pureenergy7@...> wrote:

You will know when it's time, when you can't walk anymore and your hip

pain becomes so unbearable, your hip stiffens up or buckles under you. Mine

was bone on bone in the end making even going to the mall a chore because I

had to make frequent stops because my hip was so sore and I couldn't walk

any further, then my challenge would be to get back to my car. Even though

I'm still in pain after six years, at least I can walk, dance and do

mostly whatever I want. I still go to aquafit and work out in the water.

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Subject: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related

area pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in

the groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only

take anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side,

regularly making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared

up enough that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain

several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It

makes me question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the

surgery - he has said that I'll know when it's time I thought now was it, but

your experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 9:45:16 AM

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Do it, do it, do it! It is the best thing I ever did for myself. I waited

years, and was unable to fully enjoy my life during those years. I wish I had

those years back. Life is too precious to waste living in pain waiting for the

day when you can once again live a full life.

I will say that I strongly recommend you seek a surgeon who does the anterior

approach. It has a much faster recovery time, as there's much less damage to

muscles and tendons. I am 3 1/2 months post-op and my life is back. I no

longer have to lift my leg to get into bed, or go up the stairs one step at a

time. I don't make my decisions about where I'm going based upon how much

walking is involved. I don't wake up at night because I tried to turn over in

my sleep and severe pain woke me up.

Do it!

________________________________

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:15:56 PM

Subject: to have THR or not?

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm considering

having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is head

of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and back,

which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery - he

has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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Hi , I feel you have gone about this the right way. I also saw more than

one doctor. I also tried everything else, like acupuncture, PT, Chiro,

cortisone, cane, etc. When I was ready, and could stand no more, I had it

done. 7 1/2 months out I am hiking and playing tennis.

Best of luck, Joan

________________________________

From: Gayle <keithandgayle@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 6:07:01 PM

Subject: to have THR or not?

Hi ...

I am looking at having a knee replaced in the fall. Regarding second

opinions...I got three.

1st doctor has three strikes against her

a. she would put any knee in " I " want. I don't want a doctor who asks me what

I want...I want one who can tell me what I 'need' and why.

b. she said quad sparing was not successful...but would do it if I wanted her

to. Oh great!!! I know that is not true about quad sparing.

c. how many knees has she replaced...answer was " between 100 and 1000 " . She

really didn't know. She had no idea of her infection percent.

2nd doctor..spend over an hour and a half with me. He explained all he would do

and why being I am obese. Invited me to speak with one of his patients that was

waiting to see him..which I did. Very positive...yet honest.

3rd doctor. He was pompous. Very discouraging about my situation for the

reasons he felt were valid...which were false.

So...Had I gone with opinion number 1...who knows what would have happened.

Opinion #3 left me feeling hopeless.

My second opinion was the one that I felt knew what he was doing and why.

Bottom line...I truly believe multiple opinions with major surgery are good.

Gives you knowledge with each doctor you speak and allows you to make a better

decision.

Good luck...

Gayle

P.S. Have the surgery when YOU are ready and it's convenient for you.

4) A second surgical opinion - my instinct is always to have one,

especially for something this big. Yet, as I noted, I'm seeing the head of the

OS

dept. of a respected hospital, he does several joint replacements every

week, he has no complaints/suits on record, he has not rushed me, and I've

heard other patients praise him highly. And Aetna Insurance does not require

one. I would tell someone else to get one regardless of the cost and time

lost. Agree, disagree?

Thank you.

In a message dated 7/16/2010 9:19:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

jujulabee@... writes:

Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of

human nature

Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they are

over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of people

with NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get information

prior to surgery and then may stick around as they heal but then get on with

their normal lives and stop posting.

This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to point

out that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of the surgery

- especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have a major surgery

in the first place.

Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for most

people the regret is that they waited so long as their life became whittled

down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from participating in normal

activities and pain made their lives a misery even when sitting, lying

down or trying to sleep.

When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time, it's

because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide when the

quality of their life has become compromised enough to have the surgery.

Some people wait until they are walking around with canes and are essentially

immobile while others opt for surgery when they can no longer be what I

would call normally active.

For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is gone. Sure

there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery but it's a

totally different kind of discomfort and for most people is very well controlled

with pain medication. That is one question, one should ask one's OS -- i.e

what his pain management regime consists of.

On Jul 16, 2010, at 06:05 AM, Carmel Santos <pureenergy7@...> wrote:

You will know when it's time, when you can't walk anymore and your hip

pain becomes so unbearable, your hip stiffens up or buckles under you. Mine

was bone on bone in the end making even going to the mall a chore because I

had to make frequent stops because my hip was so sore and I couldn't walk

any further, then my challenge would be to get back to my car. Even though

I'm still in pain after six years, at least I can walk, dance and do

mostly whatever I want. I still go to aquafit and work out in the water.

From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

Subject: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:15 PM

I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related

area pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in

the groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only

take anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side,

regularly making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared

up enough that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain

several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It

makes me question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the

surgery - he has said that I'll know when it's time I thought now was it, but

your experiences are making me second guess myself.

Can you help me with this decision?

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I think the time of recovery and related pain varies greatly depending on your

age, general health, and level of physical activity prior to surgery. I'm a

relatively young double hippie. I had the first one done 4 years ago and the

second one two years ago. I'm now 45.

I waited too long on my first hip-I was bone on bone. I did not wait so long to

replace the second hip. I won't lie to you, there is pain involved, but mine was

managed well with hydrocodone. I did not really need any after a couple of weeks

during the day, but I did continue to take it at night beyond a couple of weeks

to help me sleep.

As I said, I'm relatively young for this and was otherwise healthy. I was and am

an avid cyclist (bicycle). Cycling was about the only physical activity I could

do by the time I had my first hip done. I was back on my bike within 6 weeks

after my first surgery and within 4 weeks after my second surgery.

Knock on wood, but I've had no complications and live completely pain free. I

cycle, I hike, and I play tennis. The technology of hip replacement has advanced

in recent years. There are large-femoral head, metal-on-metal and

ceramic-on-ceramic implants now available. The larger head minimizes the risk of

dislocation as well as the need for the dreaded post-operative restrictions

you've probably heard about.

For both my surgeries, I had no weight bearing restrictions at all. I left the

hospital after two nights on crutches. I was walking with one crutch after a

couple days at home and a cane within about a week. All my restrictions about

bending etc. ended after my 1 month checkup—to which I drove to and arrived at

the Doc's office without a cane.

I don't think my experience is untypical.

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area

pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the

groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take

anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

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after a  partial fracture(without separation or dislocation) in my left femur

neck ,a THJR(metal to polythelene) ,cemented operation was carried  out four

months ago.but i am still limping and using a cane. i do exercise infront of

the

physio therapist at the hospital every other day and the same  everyday at

home.i am 60years old. the ball diameter is 32mm. may anybody assure me that i

will walk without a cane.

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From: emiller_22207 <emiller_22207@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:15:06 PM

Subject: Re: to have THR or not?

 

I think the time of recovery and related pain varies greatly depending on your

age, general health, and level of physical activity prior to surgery. I'm a

relatively young double hippie. I had the first one done 4 years ago and the

second one two years ago. I'm now 45.

I waited too long on my first hip-I was bone on bone. I did not wait so long to

replace the second hip. I won't lie to you, there is pain involved, but mine was

managed well with hydrocodone. I did not really need any after a couple of weeks

during the day, but I did continue to take it at night beyond a couple of weeks

to help me sleep.

As I said, I'm relatively young for this and was otherwise healthy. I was and am

an avid cyclist (bicycle). Cycling was about the only physical activity I could

do by the time I had my first hip done. I was back on my bike within 6 weeks

after my first surgery and within 4 weeks after my second surgery.

Knock on wood, but I've had no complications and live completely pain free. I

cycle, I hike, and I play tennis. The technology of hip replacement has advanced

in recent years. There are large-femoral head, metal-on-metal and

ceramic-on-ceramic implants now available. The larger head minimizes the risk of

dislocation as well as the need for the dreaded post-operative restrictions

you've probably heard about.

For both my surgeries, I had no weight bearing restrictions at all. I left the

hospital after two nights on crutches. I was walking with one crutch after a

couple days at home and a cane within about a week. All my restrictions about

bending etc. ended after my 1 month checkup—to which I drove to and arrived at

the Doc's office without a cane.

I don't think my experience is untypical.

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

>having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

>of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

>arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

>which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

>rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

>making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

>that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

>months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

>question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

>he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

>experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

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Hi ,

I just have to echo everything that has said. I had my THR around the same

time as her (hi again !) and agree it is the best thing I have EVER done

for myself! Thankfully I am not one of the unfortunate ones who has had

problems. In fact my story is SO positive perhaps sharing it with you might

stop you from second guessing yourself. I did that alot before my replacement

so I know exactly how you feel. Because I am only 39 (young in hippie terms) I

was conscious of not having the surgery too early, in fact I posted here a

couple of times asking everyone " when should I replace " . Before my operation my

hip was so riddled with arthritis my OS descibed it as " a mess " . I had a

significant limp, used a cane to walk anything further than a block, had trouble

sleeping, and had almost no range of movement in my hip. I wasnt taking any

pain killers so I probably could have limped along for another year or two, but

I really wanted an active life with my young children so I decided it was time

to do something about it. So I had a minimally invasive anterior approach in

March this year. The operation itself went really well and I was never in any

pain either in hospital or afterwards. I'll even go so far as to say I found

the whole experience really EASY! Day two post op I was able to get out of bed

and actually walked around the hospital room without any crutches. I never used

crutches at home and only used them when I went for a walk, and ditched them

completely at 3 weeks post-op. I was also driving at one week, walking 5 kms

unaided at 4 weeks, swam 20 laps at 5 weeks, and even went jogging at 6 weeks.

I now walk straight and tall and completely normal for the first time in years.

Its just the most wonderful feeling! Every day I am reminded and amazed at how

great I feel. Like tonight I went out for dinner to a particular restauant, I

used to slowly hobble up the huge flight of stairs clutching the rail and

limping up the steps sideways. Well tonight I ran up the stairs bouncing and

smiling all the way! I even said to my husband, " remember how I used to climb

these stairs?! "

Its just the most wonderful feeling, my hip feels 100% " normal " . You wouldnt

even know I used to have hip issues because I walk like someone with a normal

hip!!

I know everyones recovery is different and not everyone is as lucky as me to

have such an easy and fast recovery. I attribute mine to the fact that I have a

wonderful surgeon, I had the anterior approach, my youth (I dont get to say that

often!), and the fact that I didnt leave it until all my muscles were

permanently screwed up from years of limping. I hope my story eases your mind a

bit - there are a lot of positive ones out there!.

Cheers,

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Forwarded Message ----

> From: Willey <hillhoney@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 9:45:16 AM

> Subject: Re: to have THR or not?

>

>

> Do it, do it, do it! It is the best thing I ever did for myself. I waited

> years, and was unable to fully enjoy my life during those years. I wish I had

> those years back. Life is too precious to waste living in pain waiting for

the

> day when you can once again live a full life.

>

>

> I will say that I strongly recommend you seek a surgeon who does the anterior

> approach. It has a much faster recovery time, as there's much less damage to

> muscles and tendons. I am 3 1/2 months post-op and my life is back. I no

> longer have to lift my leg to get into bed, or go up the stairs one step at a

> time. I don't make my decisions about where I'm going based upon how much

> walking is involved. I don't wake up at night because I tried to turn over in

> my sleep and severe pain woke me up.

>

>

> Do it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:15:56 PM

> Subject: to have THR or not?

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

> having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

> of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

> arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

> which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

> rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

> making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up

enough

> that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

> months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

> question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he

> has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

> experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The same materials were used on me only uncemented.  I was also with walker for

at least two months, then crutches and finally cane. OS said no physio for the

first six weeks and non weight bearing.  After six weeks and my first checkup

with the OS, physio came to my home three times a week for about three months

and then I went to the hospital for two months I went to aquafit for two months

which really helped with the limp, totally got rid of the limp.  It took

roughly six months to get to that point.  I am still in pain, six years later

and I took up aquafit again.  I have some bone growing in my new hip side but

my OS said unless it bothers me he would leave it alone and check back with him

next year, otherwise I carry on with my daily activity's.  Aquafit really

helped me with the limp and getting rid of my cane.  I am now 52.

From: mustafa Attili <mustafaattili@...>

Subject: Re: Re: to have THR or not?

Joint Replacement

Received: Friday, July 16, 2010, 5:07 PM

after a  partial fracture(without separation or dislocation) in my left femur

neck ,a THJR(metal to polythelene) ,cemented operation was carried  out four

months ago.but i am still limping and using a cane. i do exercise infront of

the

physio therapist at the hospital every other day and the same  everyday at

home.i am 60years old. the ball diameter is 32mm. may anybody assure me that i

will walk without a cane.

________________________________

From: emiller_22207 <emiller_22207@...>

Joint Replacement

Sent: Fri, July 16, 2010 11:15:06 PM

Subject: Re: to have THR or not?

 

I think the time of recovery and related pain varies greatly depending on your

age, general health, and level of physical activity prior to surgery. I'm a

relatively young double hippie. I had the first one done 4 years ago and the

second one two years ago. I'm now 45.

I waited too long on my first hip-I was bone on bone. I did not wait so long to

replace the second hip. I won't lie to you, there is pain involved, but mine was

managed well with hydrocodone. I did not really need any after a couple of weeks

during the day, but I did continue to take it at night beyond a couple of weeks

to help me sleep.

As I said, I'm relatively young for this and was otherwise healthy. I was and am

an avid cyclist (bicycle). Cycling was about the only physical activity I could

do by the time I had my first hip done. I was back on my bike within 6 weeks

after my first surgery and within 4 weeks after my second surgery.

Knock on wood, but I've had no complications and live completely pain free. I

cycle, I hike, and I play tennis. The technology of hip replacement has advanced

in recent years. There are large-femoral head, metal-on-metal and

ceramic-on-ceramic implants now available. The larger head minimizes the risk of

dislocation as well as the need for the dreaded post-operative restrictions

you've probably heard about.

For both my surgeries, I had no weight bearing restrictions at all. I left the

hospital after two nights on crutches. I was walking with one crutch after a

couple days at home and a cane within about a week. All my restrictions about

bending etc. ended after my 1 month checkup—to which I drove to and arrived at

the Doc's office without a cane.

I don't think my experience is untypical.

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

>having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

>of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

>arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

>which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

>rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

>making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

>that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

>months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

>question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

>he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

>experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

     

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I just had my THR last Monday. And I would do it all over again. I'm 41 and

put it off for about 5 years. The last 2 were pretty bad. I knew it was time

when I was not able to do the things I wanted to do and when I couldn't sleep

anymore. My quality of life had deteriorated~along with my hip and it was time.

Everyone's experience is different. Keep that in mind.

So, a week post op~I would do it all over again. Yes, I have pain but it's

totally different than it was before and it is under control. I know I have a

lot of work ahead of me but know that I will have a better quality of life in

the end. And that's what it's all about.

Best of luck to you~whatever you decided.

~

> >

> > I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

> >having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

> >of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

> >arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

> >which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

> >rarely due to GI problems.

> >

> > The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side,

regularly

> >making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up

enough

> >that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

> >

> > The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

> >months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

> >question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

> >

> > I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery

-

> >he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

> >experiences are making me second guess myself.

> >

> > Can you help me with this decision?

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Yes, yes, have the surgery now and as said try to find a surgeon who does

the Anterior Approach where no muscles or tendons are cut. If so you should

have only minimal pain from the incisions and that only for a couple of weeks.

Also with Anterior there are virtually no restrictions.

Good luck,

Judy McG

> ________________________________

> From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:15:56 PM

> Subject: to have THR or not?

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

> having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

> of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

> arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

> which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

> rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

> making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up

enough

> that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

> months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

> question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he

> has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

> experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I agree! You should do it!

I've had both hips done. The first one was easy and I have no pain in it. The

second one was a bit more problematic, but that's because I also have had back

surgery and that's causing some pain in my hip. But the pain level I have now

is nothing at all like what I had before surgery! Sometimes I have a dull ache,

especially if I walk a lot. That's all.

I used to have pain just like you describe. I walked with a cane for more than

two years. About 10 weeks after my second surgery, I started walking without

it. Now I use it occasionally, when I know I'll be walking or standing a lot.

But that's a huge improvement!

So don't be discouraged by some of the posts. The surgery has a very high

success rate. And even if you aren't 100% pain free afterwards (and you

probably will be), the chances are overwhelming that you'll be better than you

are now.

Go for it!

>

> Do it, do it, do it! It is the best thing I ever did for myself. I waited

> years, and was unable to fully enjoy my life during those years. I wish I had

> those years back. Life is too precious to waste living in pain waiting for

the

> day when you can once again live a full life.

>

>

> I will say that I strongly recommend you seek a surgeon who does the anterior

> approach. It has a much faster recovery time, as there's much less damage to

> muscles and tendons. I am 3 1/2 months post-op and my life is back. I no

> longer have to lift my leg to get into bed, or go up the stairs one step at a

> time. I don't make my decisions about where I'm going based upon how much

> walking is involved. I don't wake up at night because I tried to turn over in

> my sleep and severe pain woke me up.

>

>

> Do it!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: lindahys <lindahys@...>

> Joint Replacement

> Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 11:15:56 PM

> Subject: to have THR or not?

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering

> having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon (who is

head

> of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area pain due to

> arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the groin and

back,

> which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take anti-inflamitories

> rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

> making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up

enough

> that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

> months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes

me

> question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he

> has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

> experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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... Have you researched the option of having a hip resurfacing? This

procedure resurfaces the top of the femur instead of literally chopping it off,

thereby preserving the integrity of the femur down your thigh. It is definitely

worth looking into and learning about it before you make a decision. There is a

group called " SurfaceHippy " and websites http://www.surfacehippyinfo.com

and http://www.surfacehippy.info

>

> I joined this group to learn more about hip replacement because I'm

considering having one. For about two to three years I've seen an ortho surgeon

(who is head of that dept. at a local hospital) for left hip and related area

pain due to arthritis in that joint. Have had several cortisone shots in the

groin and back, which relieve the pain for a couple months.I can only take

anti-inflamitories rarely due to GI problems.

>

> The pain has spread to my back, thigh, buttox and knee on that side, regularly

making sleeping and walking difficult. Last week the pain had flared up enough

that I felt I finally needed to seriously consider a THR.

>

> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain several

months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It makes me

question whether having the surgery is the right solution.

>

> I've got an appointment with the doc in August to discuss doing the surgery -

he has said that I'll know when it's time. I thought now was it, but your

experiences are making me second guess myself.

>

> Can you help me with this decision?

>

>

>

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>>>>>>> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are having pain

several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what I'm experiencing now. It

makes me question whether having the surgery is the right solution.>>>>>

Hi I am about 2 mos post op a Right THR. Regular posterior cut method

(no anterior surgical involvement at all)

Starting with the last two months before scheduling my THR I would have had to

continue to count on my husband to drive me everywhere and on my having to use

my mobility cart not just for special knee (I also need a TKR) intolerant

occassions when my wrist crutches were not enough anymore during my last 2-3

mos. I had so suddenly regressed to where I was needing that mobility cart

truely for hip reasons and needing it every single day along with help from

another strong person to be on call and to enable me to go out and about. I

also had to play chiropractor on my right hip which was the big culprit because

it would go in and out of it's socket and cause excruciating pain while OUT of

it's ball socket (or so it felt out of it's socket and keeping me in a locked

painful knee bent position).

And I am a far cry from being a chiropractor so it with it happening multiple

times per day at first there was no magic way to resolve other than trial and

error and with luck that might work. But in public that could be very

embarrassing so I would have to call home for my mobility cart when I was unable

to undo the hip lock up or lock out of socket situation. After awhile I gave up

risking going out alone.

Anyway, I never once had that predicament again after my Rt Hip surgery. I am

dealing with an long not able to use Rt front thigh and Rt groin muscle and

balance challenged arthritic totalled knee issues some of which are 20 and some

6 year old issues. Some of which are finally now being addressed for the very

first time in P.T. So basically I am back to those issues and glad to be rid of

that final Rt Hip Finally Issue.

My pain now is brought on for good reasons such as therapy designed to

strengthen not only my new Rt hip but the thigh and groin and knee which have

basically " gone to seed " due to years of inablity to

fully utilize them.

I hope this helps you decide. It was not even a decision for me in the end. I

actually had NO OPTION and now must deal with old and new consequences as best I

can. At least I am no longer dependent on anyone for going out and about

anymore as long as I go where my " totally needy Rt knee and Rt front thigh

muscle " will let me go to.

So it's nice and not so nice when it comes down to where you have no option.

Prior to this end crisis I never even knew I needed a new hip (all my former

doctors told me was that I needed one new knee).

And can you imagine if this would have happened to me during my rehab for a new

knee. Something kept telling me to put off the knee surgery and I kept asking

myself why I cannot walk like others who need just one new knee.

I hope this helps you understand how some of us might be enduring other causes

of pain. Causes that preceeded our total hip replacement surgery

LEANN

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I am reposting this message which I sent about two weeks ago.

Unfortunately the list has been relatively inactive lately and those

with problems outweigh the posts of those people in the vast majority

who have no problems after replacement and are only sorry that didn't

have it done sooner so as to have gotten back their quality of life

sooner

Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of

human nature

Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they

are over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of

people with NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get

information prior to surgery and then may stick around as they heal

but then get on with their normal lives and stop posting.

This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to

point out that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of

the surgery - especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have

a major surgery in the first place.

Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for

most people the regret is that they waited so long as their life

became whittled down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from

participating in normal activities and pain made their lives a misery

even when sitting, lying down or trying to sleep.

When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time,

it's because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide

when the quality of their life has become compromised enough to have

the surgery. Some people wait until they are walking around with canes

and are essentially immobile while others opt for surgery when they

can no longer be what I would call normally active.

For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is

gone. Sure there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery

but it's a totally different kind of discomfort and for most people is

very well controlled with pain medication. That is one question, one

should ask one's OS -- i.e what his pain management regime consists of.

On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:57 PM, leann40@... wrote:

>

> >>>>>>> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are

> having pain several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what

> I'm experiencing now. It makes me question whether having the

> surgery is the right solution.>>>>>

>

> Hi I am about 2 mos post op a Right THR. Regular posterior cut method

> (no anterior surgical involvement at all)

>

> Starting with the last two months before scheduling my THR I would

> have had to continue to count on my husband to drive me everywhere

> and on my having to use my mobility cart not just for special knee

> (I also need a TKR) intolerant occassions when my wrist crutches

> were not enough anymore during my last 2-3 mos. I had so suddenly

> regressed to where I was needing that mobility cart truely for hip

> reasons and needing it every single day along with help from another

> strong person to be on call and to enable me to go out and about. I

> also had to play chiropractor on my right hip which was the big

> culprit because it would go in and out of it's socket and cause

> excruciating pain while OUT of it's ball socket (or so it felt out

> of it's socket and keeping me in a locked painful knee bent position).

> And I am a far cry from being a chiropractor so it with it happening

> multiple times per day at first there was no magic way to resolve

> other than trial and error and with luck that might work. But in

> public that could be very embarrassing so I would have to call home

> for my mobility cart when I was unable to undo the hip lock up or

> lock out of socket situation. After awhile I gave up risking going

> out alone.

>

> Anyway, I never once had that predicament again after my Rt Hip

> surgery. I am dealing with an long not able to use Rt front thigh

> and Rt groin muscle and balance challenged arthritic totalled knee

> issues some of which are 20 and some 6 year old issues. Some of

> which are finally now being addressed for the very first time in

> P.T. So basically I am back to those issues and glad to be rid of

> that final Rt Hip Finally Issue.

>

> My pain now is brought on for good reasons such as therapy designed

> to strengthen not only my new Rt hip but the thigh and groin and

> knee which have basically " gone to seed " due to years of inablity to

> fully utilize them.

>

> I hope this helps you decide. It was not even a decision for me in

> the end. I actually had NO OPTION and now must deal with old and new

> consequences as best I can. At least I am no longer dependent on

> anyone for going out and about anymore as long as I go where my

> " totally needy Rt knee and Rt front thigh muscle " will let me go to.

>

> So it's nice and not so nice when it comes down to where you have no

> option. Prior to this end crisis I never even knew I needed a new

> hip (all my former doctors told me was that I needed one new knee).

> And can you imagine if this would have happened to me during my

> rehab for a new knee. Something kept telling me to put off the knee

> surgery and I kept asking myself why I cannot walk like others who

> need just one new knee.

>

> I hope this helps you understand how some of us might be enduring

> other causes of pain. Causes that preceeded our total hip

> replacement surgery

>

>

> LEANN

>

>

>

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This is also true of knee replacement. Thanks for the reminder!

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on 7/31/10 6:32 AM, jujulabee@... at jujulabee@... wrote:

> I am reposting this message which I sent about two weeks ago.

> Unfortunately the list has been relatively inactive lately and those

> with problems outweigh the posts of those people in the vast majority

> who have no problems after replacement and are only sorry that didn't

> have it done sooner so as to have gotten back their quality of life

> sooner

>

> Unfortunately you have a perception problem caused by a basic quirk of

> human nature

>

> Those who have problems after hip surgery are a minority however they

> are over-represented on a forum like this because the vast majority of

> people with NO PROBLEMS don't bother to post. They come here to get

> information prior to surgery and then may stick around as they heal

> but then get on with their normal lives and stop posting.

>

> This isn't meant to blame those with problems who post but only to

> point out that it tends to give an unrealistic view of the success of

> the surgery - especially when it is coupled with a reluctance to have

> a major surgery in the first place.

>

> Almost no one who has had the surgery has regretted having it -- for

> most people the regret is that they waited so long as their life

> became whittled down to almost nothing as pain prevented them from

> participating in normal activities and pain made their lives a misery

> even when sitting, lying down or trying to sleep.

>

> When an OS (or other people) say a person will know when it's time,

> it's because the surgery is elective and only an individual can decide

> when the quality of their life has become compromised enough to have

> the surgery. Some people wait until they are walking around with canes

> and are essentially immobile while others opt for surgery when they

> can no longer be what I would call normally active.

>

> For almost everyone hip surgery is a TOTAL CURE - You wake up and that

> afternoon or the next day you get up and the excruciating pain is

> gone. Sure there is surgical discomfort and some pain from the surgery

> but it's a totally different kind of discomfort and for most people is

> very well controlled with pain medication. That is one question, one

> should ask one's OS -- i.e what his pain management regime consists of.

> On Jul 30, 2010, at 6:57 PM, leann40@... wrote:

>

>> >

>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The problem is that I'm hearing that several of you are

>> > having pain several months post-THR that sounds comparable to what

>> > I'm experiencing now. It makes me question whether having the

>> > surgery is the right solution.>>>>>

>> >

>> > Hi I am about 2 mos post op a Right THR. Regular posterior cut method

>> > (no anterior surgical involvement at all)

>> >

>> > Starting with the last two months before scheduling my THR I would

>> > have had to continue to count on my husband to drive me everywhere

>> > and on my having to use my mobility cart not just for special knee

>> > (I also need a TKR) intolerant occassions when my wrist crutches

>> > were not enough anymore during my last 2-3 mos. I had so suddenly

>> > regressed to where I was needing that mobility cart truely for hip

>> > reasons and needing it every single day along with help from another

>> > strong person to be on call and to enable me to go out and about. I

>> > also had to play chiropractor on my right hip which was the big

>> > culprit because it would go in and out of it's socket and cause

>> > excruciating pain while OUT of it's ball socket (or so it felt out

>> > of it's socket and keeping me in a locked painful knee bent position).

>> > And I am a far cry from being a chiropractor so it with it happening

>> > multiple times per day at first there was no magic way to resolve

>> > other than trial and error and with luck that might work. But in

>> > public that could be very embarrassing so I would have to call home

>> > for my mobility cart when I was unable to undo the hip lock up or

>> > lock out of socket situation. After awhile I gave up risking going

>> > out alone.

>> >

>> > Anyway, I never once had that predicament again after my Rt Hip

>> > surgery. I am dealing with an long not able to use Rt front thigh

>> > and Rt groin muscle and balance challenged arthritic totalled knee

>> > issues some of which are 20 and some 6 year old issues. Some of

>> > which are finally now being addressed for the very first time in

>> > P.T. So basically I am back to those issues and glad to be rid of

>> > that final Rt Hip Finally Issue.

>> >

>> > My pain now is brought on for good reasons such as therapy designed

>> > to strengthen not only my new Rt hip but the thigh and groin and

>> > knee which have basically " gone to seed " due to years of inablity to

>> > fully utilize them.

>> >

>> > I hope this helps you decide. It was not even a decision for me in

>> > the end. I actually had NO OPTION and now must deal with old and new

>> > consequences as best I can. At least I am no longer dependent on

>> > anyone for going out and about anymore as long as I go where my

>> > " totally needy Rt knee and Rt front thigh muscle " will let me go to.

>> >

>> > So it's nice and not so nice when it comes down to where you have no

>> > option. Prior to this end crisis I never even knew I needed a new

>> > hip (all my former doctors told me was that I needed one new knee).

>> > And can you imagine if this would have happened to me during my

>> > rehab for a new knee. Something kept telling me to put off the knee

>> > surgery and I kept asking myself why I cannot walk like others who

>> > need just one new knee.

>> >

>> > I hope this helps you understand how some of us might be enduring

>> > other causes of pain. Causes that preceeded our total hip

>> > replacement surgery

>> >

>> >

>> > LEANN

>> >

>> >

>> >

>

>

>

>

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>>>>>It wasn¹t until I was recovering from the first surgery on my right knee

that my left knee simply stopped being able to bear weight. That was scary but

manageable with steroid shot until just before my second surgery>>>>

Jackie,

For me all my opposing (one oposite of my Right Knee which needs a TKR) left leg

problems came already (early)right after my Rt knee first buckled inward on me

and I lost my normal gait and stride and tried to manage without a cane or with

two canes and finally with one wrist crutch and then P.T. told me to use two and

not be embarrassed for saving my spine and other hip from being destroyed. I

developed a collapse of my metatarsal bones and a heel spur and periostitis of

that opposing foot. My opposing knee had already had good repair of a torn

meniscus ( arthroscopically done about 20 years ago) so that has been holding up

nicely ever since.

Anyway, as an early twist of fate hearing your plight, I now think I might be

better prepared for my Right TKR and it's opposing leg what with all the

education and care I have had to have and do for it to keep it in optimum shape

since all this need for a total knee of my Rt leg all began about 6 years ago.

I am getting custom orthotics made now and new pressure control stockings for

both legs and consider myself fortunate that I have had these years of time to

learn how to best care for my future TKR's opposing foot and knee and lower leg

so that I will be better able to prevent problems of that nature from happening

for the first time after a major rehab needy TKR if I have one in the near

future.

LEANN

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PS: I also, likely due to my altered opposing foot's pumping ability (my opinon

not a medical one) developed an atypical form of vascular lymphadema on that

opposing lower leg. Meaning my inability to walk enough and alot brings on

dependent (vascular form) edema and when I over do it onto that foot too much

which seems to always be the case, I contribute to my always now present

lymphedema/vaso-lymphadema.

That was the education and care I was referring to. I am hoping for my othotics

to help me with those left foot issues and if a Rt TKR can bring back my normal

stride who knows what that will improve greatly for me. Wishful thinking on my

part some might say but heck if I don't wish for me who will ????.

LEANN

>

>

> >>>>>It wasn¹t until I was recovering from the first surgery on my right knee

that my left knee simply stopped being able to bear weight. That was scary but

manageable with steroid shot until just before my second surgery>>>>

> Jackie,

> For me all my opposing (one oposite of my Right Knee which needs a TKR) left

leg problems came already (early)right after my Rt knee first buckled inward on

me and I lost my normal gait and stride and tried to manage without a cane or

with two canes and finally with one wrist crutch and then P.T. told me to use

two and not be embarrassed for saving my spine and other hip from being

destroyed. I developed a collapse of my metatarsal bones and a heel spur and

periostitis of that opposing foot. My opposing knee had already had good repair

of a torn meniscus ( arthroscopically done about 20 years ago) so that has been

holding up nicely ever since.

>

> Anyway, as an early twist of fate hearing your plight, I now think I might be

better prepared for my Right TKR and it's opposing leg what with all the

education and care I have had to have and do for it to keep it in optimum shape

since all this need for a total knee of my Rt leg all began about 6 years ago.

>

> I am getting custom orthotics made now and new pressure control stockings for

both legs and consider myself fortunate that I have had these years of time to

learn how to best care for my future TKR's opposing foot and knee and lower leg

so that I will be better able to prevent problems of that nature from happening

for the first time after a major rehab needy TKR if I have one in the near

future.

>

> LEANN

>

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