RE: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

[Guest guest]

Wondering which form of Mg is in the gel caps you take and is it a brand?...and

where do you get that?...Thanks...Don

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red

wine.  Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering.

Have you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They

both have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an

hour, and I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything

in my chest seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

I would take olive leaf extract. Very powerful anti microbial. My asthma is 10

percent of what it was. Taking antihistamine is like unplugging a fire alarm.

The body creates mucus to clean the tracheobronchial tract. When you decrease

mucus production the allergen enters deeper, thus creating a further need for

the pills. Beta glucan is another excellent supplement. Nsc makes an awesome

product. It normalizes the immune response.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

hi maria, i have read that it is histamine levels that begin to rise late in the

day and stay high thru the night until the morning. 

A PA told me years ago that untreated sinusitis will turn into asthma. I

suffered for the first time with a bout of it which lasted for 5 or 6 months i

was very debilitated plus had chemical sensitivies..had all the allergy

tests...took shots for 6 months but got progressively worse.

[Guest guest]

The Distant Healer isn't Qi Gong., he has a lot of followers on his facebook,

the other one my daughter told me about, I do know that they both have the gift

of distant healing and they do it free several times a month at certain times to

help people. What is the oil pulling? I have never heard of it, until I came to

this forum.

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red

wine.  Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering.

Have you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They

both have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an

hour, and I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything

in my chest seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

Don:

I take Standard Process Calcium Lactate which has the perfect amount of calcium

to magnesium. So you get both every time you take it. Calcium Lactate is highly

absorable and therefore a great product. I also take Standard Process Calci-Food

Powder which is the opposite calcium component of bone calcium and phosphorous.

Between these two you have it all. I take a tablespoon of each almost daily in

raw milk or some other form. Calcium needs both the right amount of magnesium

and phosphorus to really work well. That's what I've learned at my Standard

Process seminars. A good chiropractor can better explain the complexities of

these two formulas.

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

   

     

     

      Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red wine. 

Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering. Have

you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They both

have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an hour, and

I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything in my chest

seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

:

Read the book " Oil Pulling Therapy " by Dr. Bruce Fife N.D. It will take you

through the wonders of OP. It has the potential to cure many things, and yes

including Asthma, as you will read in the how and why it works that way portion

of the book. Also includes some incredible testimonies of these healings.

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

 

   

     

     

      Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red wine. 

Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering. Have

you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They both

have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an hour, and

I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything in my chest

seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

I was just reading the article you sent on stress, and that is so true, ever

since my husband passed away in 05, and then having surgery in 06, I feel like I

have had nothing but stress going on, and even before he died he was sick for

four years,and I was so wrapped up in working and caring for him, that I forgot

how stressed I really was. But now, I will do anything to avoid the drugs that

doctors just give out and half the time they don't even know what they are

doing. Have you ever heard of the Bio-disc? Or anyone else? Someone sent me some

info about it, and it does sound very interesting, and if it really does what it

supposed to I would love to have one. They say it is a powerful crystal disc

that produces SCALAR energy frequencies that have no negative side effects,based

on Nano Technology. I would like to know if anyone has ever used one.,or knows

about it.

From: Atwood <naturespharma>

Subject: RE: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Date: Sunday, March 28, 2010, 1:38 PM

 

Aha - Bonnie, THIS IS GREAT INFO. I wondered about what Vitamin C does, as it's

the number one defense against allergies but I did not know it was a natural

anti-histamine. Sounds like another of natures wonders: Crushed garlic cloves,

allowed to rest for 15 minutes to an hour is one of the most powerful natural

anti-biotics you can take. It will kill anything. I've just started using the

crushed garlic, waiting a half hour and then taking it. I've been doing 8-9

cloves a day, and it's starting to lessen the Asthma a great deal. Just nights

are still a little rough, but I'm thinking either the garlic or the thyroid

tests will be my cure.

I use a whole vitamin C - Royal-Camu from http://store. wholeworldbotani

cals.com/ Royal-Camu- Powder-100g- p/c-colon- 100g-colon- rclp100.htm

It's a phenomenal product. THANKS!

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@ sympatic o.ca>

Subject: RE: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

, once you KILL the virus, you won't need to find an anti-histamine

CAUSE YOU WON'T NEED IT.

But anyone who wants an Antihistamine that's natural just take lots of

Vitamin C to bowel tolerance.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I know just what you have been going through ,and I don't know if I told

you or not, but Garlic has been my life saver, along with the rest of the

supplements I take, which are not many, but garlic  is wonderful. It does thin

the mucus, and when I increased the amount that I was taking, it is amazing how

much better I have felt.

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Coconut Oil

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 10:38 AM

 

Hello, and thanks for the off-line offer to contact you. Yes, I've tried

this and even do now sleep with head elevated. I'm amazingly experiencing a sort

of serendipity in the last four days by taking 8-10 garlic cloves a day. This

morning, I'm much more open, and the mucous is much thinner! - I can hardly

believe it, but it may be that I'm in fact killing the bacteria that may have

been there since I got the ugly bronchial infection some 15 years ago. This is

the link, and the information I read regarding the garlic. Really strange but

its feels great to feel this good this morning :>) Will see what happens now, as

I'm going to continue with all the resolve inside me!

http://www.gourmetg arlicgardens. com/health. htm

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: cocheesie420 <cocheesie420>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 2:04 PM

Have you tried elevating the head of your bed or putting a fan on when you are

sleeping?  There are lots of little tricks like that that can work. You can

contact me offline if you like. I'm a respiratory therapist.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

[Guest guest]

How do I get off of this forum???

From: Atwood <naturespharma>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red

wine.  Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering.

Have you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They

both have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an

hour, and I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything

in my chest seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

.

I can't remember if you have had your thyroid checked—ie, free T.3,

free T.4, thyroid antibodies along w/TSH. Dr Derry believes asthma is

related to low thyroid. Here is an interesting reply he made on this

subject and his experiences. Apparently some of this knowledge has

been lost. He was using natural dessicated thyroid, but it may be that

having enough T.3 was what was important. Naturethroid or Erfa seems

to be working better than Armour at the present. I only take T.3/

Cytomel/Cnomel and no longer have it. A friend who is a pulmonary

specialist says D.3 levels are also important.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl10.htm

Asthmatics

Hi All:

I'd like your opinion and or facts on an issue that's hard for me to

understand. I notice that by late afternoon, 5:00 PM and down I start

to get that nasty tightness, and congestion in my chest and sinus's

from my Asthma, and as the night wears on it gets worse, and wakes me

up several times. That's about the only time now that I really need

the albuterol inhaler. During the day I not perfect, but I don't need

the inhaler. I'm in the process of healing this issue, and I've

determined from doing many different tests, and therapies that my

Asthma may be connected to thyroid dysfunction and have had extensive

tests done my an N.D., and will get results this next week.

Anyway, how does the body change after a certain time in the

afternoon, and when a person lies down to make the Asthma so much

worse at night than during the day. Anyone know?

Grateful for any opinions or facts.

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

[Guest guest]

You might also want to try a sinus rinse, using either a neti pot of

your hand. I was rather reluctant to try this but it works wonders. I

use about a quart of boiled filtered water, 1 t kosher or sea salt, 1

t soda. I also put a few drops of Lugols iodine in. Amazing.

Hello, and thanks for the off-line offer to contact you. Yes, I've

tried this and even do now sleep with head elevated. I'm amazingly

experiencing a sort of serendipity in the last four days by taking

8-10 garlic cloves a day. This morning, I'm much more open, and the

mucous is much thinner! - I can hardly believe it, but it may be that

I'm in fact killing the bacteria that may have been there since I got

the ugly bronchial infection some 15 years ago. This is the link, and

the information I read regarding the garlic. Really strange but its

feels great to feel this good this morning :>) Will see what happens

now, as I'm going to continue with all the resolve inside me!

http://www.gourmetgarlicgardens.com/health.htm

[Guest guest]

Yes  I have heard of  Dr,Fife's book and would like to read it. Thanks

From: Atwood <naturespharma>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 5:13 PM

 

 

   

     

     

      Thanks :

I take Astragalus daily also, and also do Mag. I'm not interested in getting

involved with Qi Gong, had a little taste of it a few years back, and did not

feel it was me. I seem to be doing incredibly well nevertheless with my new

found Garlic Antibiotic treatment.

Regards

Atwood

http://www.traditio nalcook.com

From: Gragg <librascorpiomoon>

Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red

wine.  Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering.

Have you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They

both have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an

hour, and I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything

in my chest seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

Wow, , this was an extremely interesting article. I'm printing it out and

taking to my N.D. I found out today that my tests came back positive for

Hasimoto's. I'll see her next week to see what she recommends. I'm sort of sad

tonight as the last thing I want is to go on any type of Thyroid meds. I think

once the systems starts to get these drugs, it becomes like a crutch and the

thyroid stops trying to produce hormone. On the other hand I'm glad that maybe

treating the thyroid might resolve the Asthma, as the article indicates.

I will now focus on any natural ways (excluding both medical and natural

hormone) to see if I can turn this around. I not an expert on Hasimoto, and so I

have a lot to learn. She promised that the next time I see her she will go this

issue with a fine tooth comb.

Thanks for sharing this link. I'm grateful to you and all the group. You've all

been very supportive.

From: e Rosewall <erosewall@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

.

I can't remember if you have had your thyroid checked—ie, free T.3, 

free T.4, thyroid antibodies along w/TSH. Dr Derry believes asthma is 

related to low thyroid. Here is an interesting reply he made on this 

subject and his experiences. Apparently some of this knowledge has 

been lost. He was using natural dessicated thyroid, but it may be that 

having enough T.3 was what was important. Naturethroid or Erfa seems 

to be working better than Armour at the present. I only take T.3/

Cytomel/Cnomel and no longer have it. A friend who is a pulmonary 

specialist says D.3 levels are also important.

http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl10.htm

[Guest guest]

I have Hashi's, asthma, gut issues, low D3, formerly low iron. Thyroid meds

didn't improve my asthma, but targeting gut issues has. I noticed when I went on

a candida-like diet, I saw a decrease in asthma. When I added regular foods back

in the asthma increased. I thought maybe I had some food allergies so I went to

an alternative med doctor. He said I did have some food reactions (blood testing

negative for gluten but muscle testing positive for that and other things

impacting the gut). So now I'm off gluten, soy and some nuts. He also wants me

to add in Whey protein shakes.

He also thought I had low stomach acid which caused the stomach valve to not

work properly -causing reflux, digestion issues; and also poor control of

candida and not supporting good bacteria. Put me on supplements to reduce

candida and increase stomach acid (HCL, Mycopryl, probiotics). It is working. I

noticed improved digestion and decreased asthma. I am now off one of three

asthma medications.

Hope to see how it all impacts the asthma.

He's also working on my adrenals since it effects the thyroid/endocrine system

also.

You might consider asking your doctor/ND to check into the other issues as well

- especially adrenals, D3, iron, B12, gluten, candida which can have an effect

on your system/thyroid function. Keep in mind that " tests " don't necessarily

rule out an issue as they can miss a lot and/or not necessarily tell you what

the body is actually doing(ex. you may have T4 but it may not convert well to T3

for your body to use, or you may have enough B12 but your body may not be

utilizing it, ferritin may fall in the " average range " but it may be too low for

you/your thyroid function/hair retention, etc.)

Signing up with a local thyroid forum can help give you insight into what other

treatment options may be out there. Mine has been an invaluable resource - even

more so than my regular doctors. If it hadn't been for them, I would never have

known that soy was bad for Hashi's (I was consuming a lot of soy at the time)

and certain antibiotics are contraindicated for Hashi's, the list goes on...

Good luck! Jen

>

> Wow, , this was an extremely interesting article. I'm printing it out

and taking to my N.D. I found out today that my tests came back positive for

Hasimoto's. I'll see her next week to see what she recommends. I'm sort of sad

tonight as the last thing I want is to go on any type of Thyroid meds. I think

once the systems starts to get these drugs, it becomes like a crutch and the

thyroid stops trying to produce hormone. On the other hand I'm glad that maybe

treating the thyroid might resolve the Asthma, as the article indicates.

>

> I will now focus on any natural ways (excluding both medical and natural

hormone) to see if I can turn this around. I not an expert on Hasimoto, and so I

have a lot to learn. She promised that the next time I see her she will go this

issue with a fine tooth comb.

>

> Thanks for sharing this link. I'm grateful to you and all the group. You've

all been very supportive.

>

>

>

>

> From: e Rosewall <erosewall@...>

> Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

>

> .

>

> I can't remember if you have had your thyroid checked†" ie, free T.3, 

> free T.4, thyroid antibodies along w/TSH. Dr Derry believes asthma is 

> related to low thyroid. Here is an interesting reply he made on this 

> subject and his experiences. Apparently some of this knowledge has 

> been lost. He was using natural dessicated thyroid, but it may be that 

> having enough T.3 was what was important. Naturethroid or Erfa seems 

> to be working better than Armour at the present. I only take T.3/

> Cytomel/Cnomel and no longer have it. A friend who is a pulmonary 

> specialist says D.3 levels are also important.

>

> http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl10.htm

>

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[Guest guest]

Besides, antibiotics DO NOT kill a virus.

________________________________

From: Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 10:08:38 PM

Subject: RE: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Craig, I didn't say that EATING Coconut Oil wouldn't kill a virus, I said

that swishing the oil around in your mouth (oil pulling) wouldn't kill a

virus that had invaded your cells.

Eating the VCO is different.

Bonnie

_____

From: coconut_oil_ open_forum

[mailto:coconut_oil_ open_forum] On Behalf Of Craig Steffes

Sent: March 27, 2010 10:03 PM

coconut_oil_ open_forum

Subject: RE: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Bonnie,

Am I understanding you correctly? You're saying that Coconut Oil will not

kill a virus and you are suggesting that an antibiotic will? I'm sorry but

that seems contrary to what I have learned. Can you please explain?

Regards,

Craig

[Guest guest]

Antibiotics kill bacteria, not viruses.

________________________________

From: McCleary <frank.mccleary@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 7:05:01 PM

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Bonnie; Please answer Craigs question about using antibiotics for

killing virus .Makes no sense . Thanks,

[Guest guest]

>

> How do I get off of this forum???

>

Pretty much the same way you got on, but instead of " join group " you click on

" leave group " .

[Guest guest]

Distant healer on fb? Can you email a link to it? I'd like to sniff it out.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag.  I also drink one glass of Chianti Red wine. 

Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering. Have

you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They both

have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an hour, and

I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything in my chest

seems to be loosening up. I think you would

[Guest guest]

Standard Process is top of the line if you know what to buy. Be careful

about how much calcium you take. Too much and all hell will break

loose. You probably can't take too much magnesium, but you sure can

take too much calcium. Mainstream is high on calcium, so it is

relatively easy to get too much. A first good sign of too much calcium

is muscle cramps. If you get them, back off and load up on magnesium

transdermally and take as much orally as you can stand in the most

natural form.

cocheesie420@... wrote:

>Distant healer on fb? Can you email a link to it? I'd like to sniff it out.

>

>Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

>

>

>

> Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics I

also take the Astragalus and Mag. I also drink one glass of Chianti Red wine.

Good luck, you care so much for others , I hope you have less suffering. Have

you ever gotten in on Distance Healer sessions or the Qi Gong ones? They both

have a facebook, and I was on the Qi Gong one last night, it lasted an hour, and

I have felt much better today than I have in a long time, everything in my chest

seems to be loosening up. I think you would

>

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>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Can you say this in plain English?

Thanks -

From: cocheesie420@... <cocheesie420@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Distant healer on fb?  Can you email a link to it?  I'd like to sniff it out.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Don:

I take Standard Process Calcium Lactate which has the perfect amount of calcium

to magnesium. So you get both every time you take it.

[Guest guest]

>

> Distant healer on fb? Can you email a link to it? I'd like to sniff it out.

Here is the link to the fan page:

http://tinyurl.com/ye43yyf

[Guest guest]

Someone mentioned that there is a distant healer on facebook. Does anyone have a

link to that facebook member so I can go to that members site and examine it. I

hope that is plain enough english.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T

Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Don:

I take Standard Process Calcium Lactate which has the perfect amount of calcium

to magnesium. So you get both every time you take it.

[Guest guest]

Whey shakes (using undenatured whey of course) are hugely helpful for asthmatics

and people with COPD. Both diseases are ones of low glutathione, so an

antioxidant pool increase is desireable. The research on it is in my glutathione

references:

http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references

Duncan

> >

> > Wow, , this was an extremely interesting article. I'm printing it out

and taking to my N.D. I found out today that my tests came back positive for

Hasimoto's. I'll see her next week to see what she recommends. I'm sort of sad

tonight as the last thing I want is to go on any type of Thyroid meds. I think

once the systems starts to get these drugs, it becomes like a crutch and the

thyroid stops trying to produce hormone. On the other hand I'm glad that maybe

treating the thyroid might resolve the Asthma, as the article indicates.

> >

> > I will now focus on any natural ways (excluding both medical and natural

hormone) to see if I can turn this around. I not an expert on Hasimoto, and so I

have a lot to learn. She promised that the next time I see her she will go this

issue with a fine tooth comb.

> >

> > Thanks for sharing this link. I'm grateful to you and all the group. You've

all been very supportive.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > From: e Rosewall <erosewall@>

> > Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

> >

> > .

> >

> > I can't remember if you have had your thyroid checked†" ie, free T.3, 

> > free T.4, thyroid antibodies along w/TSH. Dr Derry believes asthma is 

> > related to low thyroid. Here is an interesting reply he made on this 

> > subject and his experiences. Apparently some of this knowledge has 

> > been lost. He was using natural dessicated thyroid, but it may be that 

> > having enough T.3 was what was important. Naturethroid or Erfa seems 

> > to be working better than Armour at the present. I only take T.3/

> > Cytomel/Cnomel and no longer have it. A friend who is a pulmonary 

> > specialist says D.3 levels are also important.

> >

> > http://thyroid.about.com/library/derry/bl10.htm

> >

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[Guest guest]

Duncan:

Thanks for this link. I appreciate it. I get my own pure whey from kefir I make

from raw milk. Kefir has a lot of raw whey in it, and has literally billions of

different types of good bacteria. so many that science has not even been able to

identify them all. Why would that not work to maintain or make Glutathione. I'm

very jaded on any kind of whey powders, and would prefer to go with the real

McCoy, but would like to have your opinion on this issue.

I recently did an interview for a lady on this very subject. Lacto-Fermented

Foods. It might be interesting to list to it to get the full understanding of

what kefir really is. Here's the link if anyone is interested:

http://joanneunleashed.com/2010/03/health-benefits-of-lacto-fermented-foods-by-f\

ormer-vegan-maria-atwood/

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: OT-Why Does This Happen To Asthmatics

Whey shakes (using undenatured whey of course) are hugely helpful for asthmatics

and people with COPD. Both diseases are ones of low glutathione, so an

antioxidant pool increase is desireable. The research on it is in my glutathione

references:

http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references

[Guest guest]

, kefir doesn't have " lots " of whey in it; it contains about 50 times less

protein than a whey protein shake does, and it's components of that protein that

we are after for health.

People can't elevate their glutathione levels with it like they do with the

whey, and fermented products are not practical applications of glutathione

precursors.

Bacteria don't have the ability to make antioxidants.

all good,

>

> Duncan:

> Thanks for this link. I appreciate it. I get my own pure whey from kefir I

make from raw milk. Kefir has a lot of raw whey in it, and has literally

billions of different types of good bacteria. so many that science has not even

been able to identify them all. Why would that not work to maintain or make

Glutathione. I'm very jaded on any kind of whey powders, and would prefer to go

with the real McCoy, but would like to have your opinion on this issue.

>

> I recently did an interview for a lady on this very subject. Lacto-Fermented

Foods. It might be interesting to list to it to get the full understanding of

what kefir really is. Here's the link if anyone is interested:

>

>

>

http://joanneunleashed.com/2010/03/health-benefits-of-lacto-fermented-foods-by-f\

ormer-vegan-maria-atwood/

>

> Atwood

> http://www.traditionalcook.com

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan:

Well, you should have the opportunity to see my Kefir - Its power packed with

lots of fresh whey in it. Probably 40% of my homemade kefir is pure full strengh

whey. Lots of our athletes use it to keep their bodies in top shape. I also have

whey all by itself.

Your right about one thing, and that is that Mother Nature indeed does not make

things with the force of processed whey powders, but I think in terms of REAL

food value, and benefits, we simply cannot beat the real stuff. Lots of info

regarding this whey subjects on http://www.westonaprice.org. and its wonderfully

easy to make.

Atwood

http://www.traditionalcook.com

, kefir doesn't have " lots " of whey in it; it contains about 50 times less

protein than a whey protein shake does, and it's components of that protein that

we are after for health.

People can't elevate their glutathione levels with it like they do with the

whey, and fermented products are not practical applications of glutathione

precursors.

Bacteria don't have the ability to make antioxidants.

all good,