Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 In a message dated 3/8/2010 6:32:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, librascorpiomoon@... writes: Tell that to Ben of Utopia Advanced Silver, he knows more about silver than most, I would trust him first.I have used it for years with good results. ditto here edith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 You are absolutely right. Cheers, D Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver coconut_oil_ open_forum Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:35 PM You are going to treat pink eye with metal? Is you crazy? Why would you ever take that? In other news . . . I have an ingrown toenail. I was thinking treating it by smashing my toe repeatedly with a hammer and then lighting myself on fire. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 That's just the usual fear-based mainstream disinformation that has nothing to do with properly made CS at 20 PPM or less. The body has a certain capacity to excrete silver from the body; argyria occurs when that capacity is exceeded. Argyria is extremely rare, and it's not even very common among industrial workers exposed to large amounts of silver. > > > > From: bosshog264 (DOT) com <bosshog264 (DOT) com> > > Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver > > coconut_oil_ open_forum > > Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:35 PM > > > >  > > > > You are going to treat pink eye with metal?  Is you crazy?  Why would you ever take that? > > > > In other news . . . > > > > I have an ingrown toenail.  I was thinking treating it by smashing my toe repeatedly with a hammer and then lighting myself on fire.  Thoughts? > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 I agree 100%The FDA would suffer greatly if everyone chose health over sickness, but there is too much fear and in the long run most people do give into it. I never will. From: bosshog264 (DOT) com <bosshog264@ . com> Subject: Re: [coconut_oil_ open_forum] Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver coconut_oil_ open_forum Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 7:35 PM You are going to treat pink eye with metal? Is you crazy? Why would you ever take that? In other news . . . I have an ingrown toenail. I was thinking treating it by smashing my toe repeatedly with a hammer and then lighting myself on fire. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2010 Report Share Posted March 8, 2010 Sorry everyone. If you want to put heavy metal in your eyes go ahead. However, here are a few responses to some of the comments. 1) it is not " natural " to put any heavy metal in your eyes, 2) just cuz some guy named Ben of Utopia Silver knows a lot about silver does really matter to me (sounds like he sells it anyway), 3) yes, the FDA is FUBAR on a lot of issues, however, do you also think they are wrong about mercury? Look, everyone here has the internet . . . I suggest that before you take anything, you read A LOT about it. Anytime you are going to do something like taking a heavy metal and putting it in your eye, you should probably do a lot of research ahead of time. Just because something is a old home remedy does not mean that it is either good for you or natural. Anyone aware of any studies as to whether a 20 ppm actually means 20 ppm? How close is it? Is an independent lab used to test? Never mind. Back to coconut. . . . I LOVE IT. Has anyone else tasted the ice cream? Also, milk in a carton is soooo much better than from the can. I start everyday with a coconut milk, hemp, etc. smoothie. Then have some more with my midmorning coffee. Light low carb lunch. Another smoothie when I get home. Then another low carb meal. Then ice cream. Loving what I eat now. I want to try coconut sugar. . . . I'd like to see if they will come up with coconut butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 there already is a coconut butter, don't know where to get it, but I'm sure you can google......Someone somewhere mentioned they use it...... Blessings, Margaret A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule the world.... Ralph W. Emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 You call it heavy metal, and yet the doctor's put silver into a newborn's eyes at birth. It is not heavy metal. I have been using C.Silver for over ten years and many of my friends do also. Why don't you check out " Utopia Advanced Silver' before you continue to knock it. I don't think you are really informed at all.Yes Mr. does sell his silver, and he helps a lot of people because he knows what he is doing. If you really want to know, he has a lot of information, and he doesn't have to push anyone to buy his products, because they work. I don't know Ben, but I have read enough to know he is a good person and cares about people.Good Luck From: bosshog264@... <bosshog264@...> Subject: Re: Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver Coconut Oil Date: Tuesday, March 9, 2010, 2:13 AM Â Sorry everyone. Â If you want to put heavy metal in your eyes go ahead. Â However, here are a few responses to some of the comments. Â 1) it is not " natural " to put any heavy metal in your eyes, 2) just cuz some guy named Ben of Utopia Silver knows a lot about silver does really matter to me (sounds like he sells it anyway), 3) yes, the FDA is FUBAR on a lot of issues, however, do you also think they are wrong about mercury? Â Look, everyone here has the internet . . . I suggest that before you take anything, you read A LOT about it. Â Anytime you are going to do something like taking a heavy metal and putting it in your eye, you should probably do a lot of research ahead of time. Â Just because something is a old home remedy does not mean that it is either good for you or natural. Â Anyone aware of any studies as to whether a 20 ppm actually means 20 ppm? Â How close is it? Is an independent lab used to test? Â Never mind. Â Back to coconut. . . . I LOVE IT. Â Has anyone else tasted the ice cream? Â Also, milk in a carton is soooo much better than from the can. Â I start everyday with a coconut milk, hemp, etc. smoothie. Â Then have some more with my midmorning coffee. Â Light low carb lunch. Â Another smoothie when I get home. Â Then another low carb meal. Â Then ice cream. Â Loving what I eat now. I want to try coconut sugar. . . . I'd like to see if they will come up with coconut butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 > > You call it heavy metal, and yet the doctor's put silver into a > newborn's eyes at birth. It is not heavy metal. Silver is also used in dressings for burn care. The idea that silver is some sort of toxic heavy metal is ridiculous. Silver leaf is edible and used for culinary decoration. By comparison, decorate your cake with cadmium leaf, and people are gonna die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 > > Look, everyone here has the internet . . . I suggest that before > you take anything, you read A LOT about it. Yes, and if you had actually bothered to read " A LOT " about colloidal silver you wouldn't post the the kind of inaccurate nonsense you've been posting. Your knowledge of CS is laughably inadequate. > Anyone aware of any studies as to whether a 20 ppm actually > means 20 ppm? How close is it? Is an independent lab used to > test? Electrically isolated silver, made solely with pure silver and distilled water, doesn't exist much above 20 PPM because at that concentration, the silver agglomerates and precipitates out. Silver products with higher concentrations than that are typically silver compounds (like silver citrate) or pure silver colloids kept in suspension with protein. People who read " A LOT " about CS/EIS will know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I suppose the point here is everything in moderation? Someone can die from drinking too much water. We all make personal decisions for what is acceptable or not to ingest. As long as no one is holding a silver bullet to ones head. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver > > You call it heavy metal, and yet the doctor's put silver into a > newborn's eyes at birth. It is not heavy metal. Silver is also used in dressings for burn care. The idea that silver is some sort of toxic heavy metal is ridiculous. Silver leaf is edible and used for culinary decoration. By comparison, decorate your cake with cadmium leaf, and people are gonna die. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 > > I suppose the point here is everything in moderation? That's part of the point. The other part is that just because silver ingested in extremely large quantities negatively impacts health does not mean it is a toxic " heavy metal " like cadmium or mercury, which are toxic in very small quantities. There's a reason why silver leaf is edible and that eating utensils can be safely made from silver but not truly toxic metals like lead and cadmium. > Someone can die from drinking too much water. Exactly. And, with CS at 20 PPM or less, you would probably die of excess water consumption before enough silver could be ingested to cause argyria or organ damage. If you drink one glass of 20 PPM CS, that silver will be almost entirely excreted from the body within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 Similarly, I know hundreds who use silver and have no argyria. Points about organ damage relative to inadequate silver excretion are made moot by the subject taking glutathione increasers Glutathione is the molecule that is used up in escorting metals from the body and people should be up on this anti-aging approach anyway because glutathione is depleted in every illness and in age-related and cognitive decline. References: http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references Duncan > > From: bosshog264@... <bosshog264@...> > Subject: Re: Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver > Coconut Oil > Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 12:21 AM The silver collects in the skin and other organs and does not dissipate.Silver is a heavy metal and doctors say it can collect in the organs and cause kidney and liver damage and even brain seizures. But it is still sold as a dietary supplement. " > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2010 Report Share Posted March 9, 2010 I've been using CS for couple of years---last week I went to my nutritionist who uses a machine in her diagnosis.......She found I had lots of heavy metal in my system, it didn't say what kind, but I know the ONLY one would be CS.......I've also never felt healthier in my life, and will continue to use it....The machine said I have toxic levels of heavy metals, but it didn't know what kind--I feel healthy and safe knowing it's all CS, and the results of any tests are open to interpretation.... Blessings, Margaret A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule the world.... Ralph W. Emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 Don't be so quick to rule out mercury. ________________________________ From: " margretdzn@... " <margretdzn@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 7:55:04 AM Subject: Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver I've been using CS for couple of years---last week I went to my nutritionist who uses a machine in her diagnosis... ....She found I had lots of heavy metal in my system, it didn't say what kind, but I know the ONLY one would be CS.......I've also never felt healthier in my life, and will continue to use it....The machine said I have toxic levels of heavy metals, but it didn't know what kind--I feel healthy and safe knowing it's all CS, and the results of any tests are open to interpretation. ... Blessings, Margaret A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule the world.... Ralph W. Emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 > > Don't be so quick to rule out mercury. Agreed. Also, " heavy metal " isn't even a precisely defined scientific term: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_metal_(chemistry) I would question the validity of a diagnostic machine that gives vague diagnoses of heavy metal toxicity. There's an awful lot that goes on in alternative medicine that doesn't pass scientific muster. And, there's still the issue of silver being inaccurately described as a heavy metal: http://www.silvermedicine.org/silver-heavy-metal.html ________________________________ > From: " margretdzn@... " <margretdzn@...> > Coconut Oil > Sent: Wed, March 10, 2010 7:55:04 AM > Subject: Re: Treating Pink eye with Colliodal Silver > > > > > I've been using CS for couple of years---last week I went to my > nutritionist who uses a machine in her diagnosis... ....She found I had lots of heavy > metal in my system, it didn't say what kind, but I know the ONLY one would > be CS.......I've also never felt healthier in my life, and will continue to > use it....The machine said I have toxic levels of heavy metals, but it > didn't know what kind--I feel healthy and safe knowing it's all CS, and the > results of any tests are open to interpretation. ... > > Blessings, Margaret > A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see > that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule > the world.... > Ralph W. Emerson > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2010 Report Share Posted March 10, 2010 try some castor oil, it can go IN the eye...i get tiny warts on eyelids in time of stress if they grow they have to be surgically removed. REALLY unpleasnt getting a shot in the eyelid and then here come the scissors i read about castor oil for eye irritations etc and applied it to a new wart that cropped up during the period after my mom diedar a the wart...looked like a tiny yellow blister size of pinhead area on the lid would be red and the growth would be in contact with my eye when lid closed. I applied castor oil to the lid and also UNDER the lid, continued this for 2 weeks..the thing disappeared. There is usually an itchy sensation to the eye when one is coming up...i've used it successfully on a 3rd one. It would have been awesome if i knew about the castor oil for the first one! would have saved a surgery...and the unsightly thing got bigger by the week.. I also have dry eye and cataract which I use Similisan brand eye drops for Cataracts has improved my night vision...another awesome homeopathic product...they have a formula for pink eye but i've neer used it b/c i used the castor oil if an y redness or irritation. > > Sorry everyone. If you want to put heavy metal in your eyes go ahead. However, here are a few responses to some of the comments. 1) it is not " natural " to put any heavy metal in your eyes, 2) just cuz some guy named Ben of Utopia Silver knows a lot about silver does really matter to me (sounds like he sells it anyway), 3) yes, the FDA is FUBAR on a lot of issues, however, do you also think they are wrong about mercury? > Look, everyone here has the internet . . . I suggest that before you take anything, you read A LOT about it. Anytime you are going to do something like taking a heavy metal and putting it in your eye, you should probably do a lot of research ahead of time. Just because something is a old home remedy does not mean that it is either good for you or natural. Anyone aware of any studies as to whether a 20 ppm actually means 20 ppm? How close is it? Is an independent lab used to test? > Never mind. > > Back to coconut. . . . I LOVE IT. Has anyone else tasted the ice cream? Also, milk in a carton is soooo much better than from the can. I start everyday with a coconut milk, hemp, etc. smoothie. Then have some more with my midmorning coffee. Light low carb lunch. Another smoothie when I get home. Then another low carb meal. Then ice cream. Loving what I eat now. > I want to try coconut sugar. . . . I'd like to see if they will come up with coconut butter. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2010 Report Share Posted March 11, 2010 been tested for mercury and that's not a problem.... Blessings, Margaret A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule the world.... Ralph W. Emerson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2010 Report Share Posted March 12, 2010 Like your naturopath, a local lady with a doctor of philosphy degree (church bought?) uses a machine to diagnose. Personally I think it has no value at all as a diagnostic tool; I hope you spent your money wisely. all good, Duncan > > > > I've been using CS for couple of years---last week I went to my > nutritionist who uses a machine in her diagnosis.......She found I had lots of heavy > metal in my system, it didn't say what kind, but I know the ONLY one would > be CS.......I've also never felt healthier in my life, and will continue to > use it....The machine said I have toxic levels of heavy metals, but it > didn't know what kind--I feel healthy and safe knowing it's all CS, and the > results of any tests are open to interpretation.... > > Blessings, Margaret > A man is what he thinks about all day long...Great men are they who see > that the spiritual is stronger than any material force, that thoughts rule > the world.... > Ralph W. Emerson > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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