Re: Youthing Question for Duncan

[Guest guest]

I know you said this question was for Duncan, but I thought perhaps I could

help.

Your physical age is totally dependent on your level of health, not how long you

have been on the earth. As you get healthier, you actually get younger

physically.

Your experience with the melatonin is a good sign that something is working for

you. You are getting healthier, at least in some aspects.

All supplements that actually do work for you, will work in this manner. As

your health improves you will need less and less. If a supplement is not doing

this for you, chances are it isn't really helping you.

Now, in your case, it will be hard to know which supplement is helping you to

improve, because you take so many. But gradually eliminate your supplements one

by one and see when the need for melatonin rises again. Any that you eliminate

that don't make any difference, you don't need.

Eventually you should get to the point where you don't need any supplements and

your body is healthy enough to get everything you need from the food you eat.

Congratulations on making some headway! I'm excited for you!

Layne (Coach G.)

>

> I have noticed something odd over the past month or so. I am now

> needing less melatonin than usual. I used to take over 10 mg of

> Melatonin a night. Now I mostly take 3 mg, sometimes with an

> additional 3 mg booster if I can't get back to sleep after I break

> sleep to use the toilet. From all that I have read, there seems to

> be a concensus that melatonin production decreases with age. So why

> is mine seemingly increasing?

>

> Pregnenolone, Resveratrol, and Pycnogenol are the only 3 recent

> additions to my supplement regime, and from what I can discern from

> google, none of those supplements should be increasing my body's

> ability to make melatonin.

>

> So I began to look for a dietary connection. According to

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin, no food has been shown to

> increase plasma melatonin levels.

> Encyclopedia of dietary supplements

> [ By M. Coates

>

http://books.google.com/books?id=Sfmc-fRCj10C & dq=Lerner+melatonin+history & source\

=gbs_navlinks_s]

>

> Melatonin can increase by taking psychoactive drugs, but I have not

> used anything like that since 2001.

>

> So why is my need for melatonin supplementation going down over the

> past few months?

>

> The only guess I can make right now is that whey+Selenium makes for

> more glutathione levels. And high glutathione levels is good for

> vitality at an advanced age.

>

> Duncan, can you think of things I may have missed?

>

> Alobar

>

[Guest guest]

I have taken 3mgs of melatonin for a while, but it has never worked for me. I

never had trouble sleeping until after my surgery three years ago, but I do know

that when I take 500 mg. of magnesium I sleep much better. Is it safe to take

over 5mg. of melatonin, I take a very low dose of a blood pressure pill 2mg. so

I didn't want to do something that would not be good. I would appreciate your

feelings about it. Sincerely,

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Subject: Youthing Question for Duncan

Coconut Oil

Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 11:57 PM

 

I have noticed something odd over the past month or so. I am now

needing less melatonin than usual. I used to take over 10 mg of

Melatonin a night. Now I mostly take 3 mg, sometimes with an

additional 3 mg booster if I can't get back to sleep after I break

sleep to use the toilet. From all that I have read, there seems to

be a concensus that melatonin production decreases with age. So why

is mine seemingly increasing?

Pregnenolone, Resveratrol, and Pycnogenol are the only 3 recent

additions to my supplement regime, and from what I can discern from

google, none of those supplements should be increasing my body's

ability to make melatonin.

So I began to look for a dietary connection. According to

http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Melatonin, no food has been shown to

increase plasma melatonin levels.

Encyclopedia of dietary supplements

[ By M. Coates

http://books. google.com/ books?id= Sfmc-fRCj10C & dq=Lerner+ melatonin+

history & source= gbs_navlinks_ s]

Melatonin can increase by taking psychoactive drugs, but I have not

used anything like that since 2001.

So why is my need for melatonin supplementation going down over the

past few months?

The only guess I can make right now is that whey+Selenium makes for

more glutathione levels. And high glutathione levels is good for

vitality at an advanced age.

Duncan, can you think of things I may have missed?

Alobar

[Guest guest]

Hi:

I take 1 mg. of Melatonin and it works pretty good and you can safely take

up to 6 mg. nightly. Magnesium in the form of Citrate or Glycinate works

good and should be taken every day and your bowels will tell you HOW MUCH

YOU NEED. Magnesium (like Calcium) is very important.

If they get loose, back off a wee bit. But 500 mg. daily is okay to take

EVERY DAY. Magnesium Glycinate is gentler to the bowel than Citrate.

Magnesium is needed in the entire body.

Bonnie

[Guest guest]

I won't take prescription meds, so I can't say what is or is not safe

to take with any meds.

Alobar

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Gragg

<librascorpiomoon@...> wrote:

> I have taken 3mgs of melatonin for a while, but it has never worked for me. I

never had trouble sleeping until after my surgery three years ago, but I do know

that when I take 500 mg. of magnesium I sleep much better. Is it safe to take

over 5mg. of melatonin, I take a very low dose of a blood pressure pill 2mg. so

I didn't want to do something that would not be good. I would appreciate your

feelings about it. Sincerely,

>

>

>

> From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

> Subject: Youthing Question for Duncan

> Coconut Oil

> Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 11:57 PM

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have been taking melantonin for years to help- me with sleep--started

many years ago before I knew about getting my hormones or thyroid checked.....

when I first started I was very deficient in thyroid (hoshis) and sex

hormones, couldn't sleep so I took maybe 9-15 mg. nightly to help me sleep,

without any bad side effects---I had to start off slowly because in larger

doses it leaves you with a hangover but only until you get used to it.......

then after I got my thyroid, hormones in balance few years ago I was also

taking BP meds, and was able cut back on melantonin---had no side effects

with any meds....

now I am only taking 1-3mg. melantonin at bedtime, no other prescription

drugs except thyroid.......there are nights when I don't take the melantonin

and sleep like a baby (since getting everything else balanced).......So I

guess now I just take melantonin because I think it's a good thing.........

Blessings, Margaret

" We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by

the love we're not extending in the present. "

nne on

[Guest guest]

Hi Alobar; I agree that your program is probably increasing your vitality,

including moving some of your hormonal values, melatonin included. Melatonin is

also an antioxidant, so perhaps your other antioxidants are sparing some

melatonin too, leading to marginally increased levels.

Duncan

>

> I have noticed something odd over the past month or so. I am now

> needing less melatonin than usual. I used to take over 10 mg of

> Melatonin a night. Now I mostly take 3 mg, sometimes with an

> additional 3 mg booster if I can't get back to sleep after I break

> sleep to use the toilet. From all that I have read, there seems to

> be a concensus that melatonin production decreases with age. So why

> is mine seemingly increasing?

>

> Pregnenolone, Resveratrol, and Pycnogenol are the only 3 recent

> additions to my supplement regime, and from what I can discern from

> google, none of those supplements should be increasing my body's

> ability to make melatonin.

>

> So I began to look for a dietary connection. According to

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin, no food has been shown to

> increase plasma melatonin levels.

> Encyclopedia of dietary supplements

> [ By M. Coates

>

http://books.google.com/books?id=Sfmc-fRCj10C & dq=Lerner+melatonin+history & source\

=gbs_navlinks_s]

>

> Melatonin can increase by taking psychoactive drugs, but I have not

> used anything like that since 2001.

>

> So why is my need for melatonin supplementation going down over the

> past few months?

>

> The only guess I can make right now is that whey+Selenium makes for

> more glutathione levels. And high glutathione levels is good for

> vitality at an advanced age.

>

> Duncan, can you think of things I may have missed?

>

> Alobar

>

[Guest guest]

That's what happened to me also, but I used to need/take much more

melantonin to help me sleep when I had dysfunctional thyroid, adrenals,

candida,

etc. etc.....

now that I'm over all that, my melantonin went down---this was proved

along my health journey by muscle testing along the way.....

I was very surprised and skeptical when it was suggested I needed only 3

mg. down from at least 15....

when all my hormones became back in balance, the need for melantonin

decreased.........

In your case, the Pregnenolone plays on the hormones, so I'm wondering if

it was that........??

Blessings, Margaret

" We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by

the love we're not extending in the present. "

nne on

[Guest guest]

I also thought of pregnenolone, but looking at the hormonal pathways,

http://www.life-enhancement.com/images/chartscan.gif

it does not appear that pregnenolone is a precursor of melatonin.

Alobar

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 7:18 AM, <margretdzn@...> wrote:

>

>

> That's what happened to me also, but I used to need/take much  more

> melantonin to help me sleep when I had dysfunctional thyroid,  adrenals,

candida,

> etc. etc.....

> now that I'm over all that, my melantonin went down---this  was proved

> along my health journey by muscle testing along the  way.....

> I was very surprised and skeptical when it was suggested I  needed only 3

> mg. down from at least 15....

> when all my hormones became back in balance, the need for  melantonin

> decreased.........

> In your case, the Pregnenolone plays on the hormones, so I'm  wondering if

> it was that........??

>

>

>

> Blessings, Margaret

[Guest guest]

Alobar, Pregnenolone is not a precursor to melantonin, but it is to other

hormones--I think when the other hormones are in balance, you naturally

need less melantonin....

for instance, when I was out of balance and first had the thyroid done,

then the female hormones--estrogen and progesterone......my biggest complaint

at the time was I couldn't sleep anymore......I was taking high doses of

melantonin with no help, even resorted to taking Ambien, etc. and that

hardly helped........once I started on the female hormones I slept---Dr. told

me

within 2 days of starting I would sleep better and I did.....it was the

progesterone.....within 2-3 days as I recall I was able to reduce the

melantonin to one 3 mg. pill a night, and there are some nights I forget my

melantonin and I sleep like a baby.......I'm convinced I don't need the

melantonin the sleep anymore, but I take it anyway for any anti-aging

properties it

may offer.....

Blessings, Margaret

" We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by

the love we're not extending in the present. "

nne on