ice

[Guest guest]

Dont know exactly, its similar to meth-amphetamine. A dangerous drug that gives

euphoria.

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone

off Lex because I need to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Never used it before. Im a pensioner so I would rarely be able to afford it

anyway so my health should be fine. Lex and the rest didnt do squat for me. My

depression isnt clinical, its due to outside reasons. I really wish my mother

was dead so I could kill myself.

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Ive gone off Lex because I need to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

Ice??

[Guest guest]

I thought it was drug. Have you ever used it before? Did the Lexapro benefit

you at all? Have you tried any other type of AD? An AD may not give you

euphoria, but it can stablize the feelings of suicide, depression, and anxiety.

Also, AD's are legal. Why do you feel the need to use an illegal drug rather

than an AD? Do you have family, a support group, anything? Wouldn't using ice

be like a slow suicide? It may make you feel better, but it ravages your body.

I've seen photos of people that use meth, it ruins their physical appearance, I

can't even imagine what it would do to you body and health. I'm sure it is more

expensive than AD's, and is not something insurance covers. Have you explored

other AD's? Cymbalta is wonderful, I hear Wellbutrin is good as well. Please

explore positive options, don't give up and go to the other side. I've been

there, the suicide thoughts, the depression, and the anxiety. In my opinion, I

have a good life, wonderful husband,

wonderful job, and wonderful family, and yet I still have the anxiety and

depression. I have used Celexa, Cymbalta, and Lexapro, I was very happy with

all three, I've been lucky. I know everyone is different, which is why there

are some AD's out there. As you know depression is not something easily cured,

in fact sometimes it is a lifetime disease, but there is not one drug that is a

cure-all for the entire population. There are other options out there. I have

never, ever used an illegal drug, not even pot. If alcohol and cigarattes were

illegal, I wouldn't use those either. I may not know you, but please, please

explore other AD's. Have you seen a therapist? Do you believe in therapy? How

does your doctor feel about you quitting Lexapro and starting ice? I know what

those feelings are like, I actively pursued help, please do the same.

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Dont

know exactly, its similar to meth-amphetamine. A dangerous drug that gives

euphoria.

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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If you've never used it, how do you know it will benefit you? When you start a

new AD, do you start it with positive, hopeful feelings, or do you start the AD

with cynicism? You care about your mom it seems, you are not completely selfish

or self-absorbed or you wouln't worry about how a suicide would affect her. So

all is not lost. What are the outside reasons that depress you? Can you remove

yourself from those situations? Your mom is not the only person that cares

about you, there are others. I know suicide is not the answer, I am living

proof. So are several other members on this group. Please answer these

questions as well as the one's from my other email. I care.

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Never

used it before. Im a pensioner so I would rarely be able to afford it anyway so

my health should be fine. Lex and the rest didnt do squat for me. My depression

isnt clinical, its due to outside reasons. I really wish my mother was dead so I

could kill myself.

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Hi ,

Well, it's good not to mix antidepressants with street drugs, that's

for sure, so I'm glad you're not doing that. I'm sorry that the

antidepressants you've tried didn't work for you. It can be so hard

to find the right one or combination of right ones. It's something

I'm really frustrated about right now myself because it takes so long

to figure out what will work. For years I've been trying to find the

right balance.

It would probably be a good idea to learn about ice before you decide

whether or not you're going to try it. Informed consumer and all that

jazz. I don't know much about it myself, but I do know that it often

produces symptoms similar to schizophrenia. Also, users often

experience acute depression between hits. So if you choose to use it,

it could cause even more mental health issues than the depression that

you're trying to get away from. It's also really addictive. Right up

there on the top of the list. People who try ice don't stay

occasional users for long.

I'm wondering if you want to try ice because it sounds like it might

give you relief from the depression for a while? If that's the

reason, I understand the temptation of anything that sounds like it

would give you relief for a while, really I do. I used to drink a lot

in order to get rid of the depression, even if it was just for an

evening. Yeah, I know, crazy right? Using a depressant to get rid of

the depression. But I craved the few hours where I no longer cared or

thought about how much I hated myself and my life. Of course, it

didn't always work that way, and the times between alcohol I was still

miserable. And I was just adding another problem onto my already long

list of problems. So to make the long story short, my miracle drug

was alcohol, but it turned out to not be the miracle I hoped it would

be. The answer is differnt for everyone, but for me what's helped the

most is a combo of meds and environmental stuff like therapy and

taking morning walks and going back to school, etc etc.

Please don't give up hope on finding a solution that will work for

you. Depression sucks, it's draining, and it's so easy to lose hope.

But there is a solution out there that doesn't involve killing

yourself or dying a slow and miserable death from ice. It can just

take a while to find it. A solution is out there.

If you know that your depression is more from environmental stuff than

chemical stuff it might be a good idea to talk with someone about

other things to try besides antidepressants or in addition to them.

The most powerful antidepressant in the world isn't going to " cure "

you if the reason why you're depressed is because of something going

on in your life. A therapist or trusted friend or your doctor might

be able to help you figure out what things you want to change in your

life in order to feel better, and how to do it.

I know, I've just talked a lot. But I care what you decide to do so I

had a lot to say. Please hang in there. It does get better, even if

it doesn't feel like it ever will right now.

The internet's a great place for support, but sometimes it helps to be

able to talk to someone immediately. If you'd like to find out more

about services in your area where you could talk to someone right away

this website might help: http://www.lifeline.org.au/

I'm glad that you are still reaching out by posting. It shows that

you still have some hope for yourself. Please draw on that hope and

don't give up!

Jen

>

> Never used it before. Im a pensioner so I would rarely be able to

afford it anyway so my health should be fine. Lex and the rest didnt

do squat for me. My depression isnt clinical, its due to outside

reasons. I really wish my mother was dead so I could kill myself.

[Guest guest]

I have belonged to this group now for about a month. Ice is not the

answer. Finding the right med is. Did your Doc not discourage you

from trying ice? This is a very dangerous drug. I know from

exoerience. You start out feeling great at first then BOOM major

depression sets in 10 times worse.After several suicide attempts when

I was younger finallY I am feeling good about my self. Great husband,

job, friends who are all very supportive. I also found the right meds.

Please think twice before giving up on meds.I'll pray for you

Pat

Ive gone off Lex because I need

to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

> the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness

anymore

> so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was

on

> 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a

wooziness

> in my brain.

>

>

>

>

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, I agree with Katty hang in there. Please keep

using us as some kind of support group. Why do you

want to kill yourself? A lot of us have been there and

would love to have a chance to help you through this

as best we can. Please keep seeking help, don't give

up. There is a lot out there for you to experience and

enjoy.

ak

--- <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote:

> Never used it before. Im a pensioner so I would

> rarely be able to afford it anyway so my health

> should be fine. Lex and the rest didnt do squat for

> me. My depression isnt clinical, its due to outside

> reasons. I really wish my mother was dead so I could

> kill myself.

> Re: Ice

>

> Forgive me, but what is ice?

>

>

>

> <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone

> off Lex because I need to take ice, and its

> dangerous to mix

> the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness

> and emptiness anymore

> so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My

> comment is that I was on

> 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects

> except for a wooziness

> in my brain.

>

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Thank you for caring. All I know is that I cant take it anymore, someone like me

isnt 100 percent rational in the decision-making department. I havent been out

with a woman in 10 years is my problem. I love women dearly and am a

compassionate person. I really cant live without them. My upbringing and genes

have made me this way. Im depressed, I dont have a partner, I live by myself in

government housing and I have a shitty car and havent worked in years, and have

jack-all friends who I rarely see. I take an antipsychotic because years ago

they thought I had schizophrenia, the schiz med I take has an AD in it and

admittedly it does something for me.

I approach AD's impartially to be honest, Im not so judgemental and opinionated

about meds these days.

If I can manage to make it about 3 months I should be alright as Im working with

an employment agency(currently am unfairly suspended) and hope to be working

full time in about 2-3 months as I will qualify to do my old job again. If I can

make it to this time Ill be ok because Ill have something to do(a job) and

adequate money.

Take care,

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Thank you for your insightful letter. I actually do already have a history of

mental illness, namely schizophrenia. Yes you are so right when you suggest I

want to take the drug just to get away from the bad feelings for a few hours. To

completely rid myself of the misery for a few hours, its all I know. I have been

working in the background trying to make my pathetic life better but I forsee

another 2 or 3 months before my outside life gets better.

Ive spoken to my doc about mixing meds, he says no. To be honest Im not

experiencing any extra depression since coming off the Lex. Honestly, Ill just

keeping taking my psych med with the AD in it and go off the stand-alone AD's

and just rely on the odd street drug to get me by. I failed obtaining ice this

morning but I did obtain some base, which is basically speed. Medicinally I

would say it has a powerful anti-depressant punch, as it speeds you up leaving

you energised and engaging. But theres no euphoria and the effect is very

minimal compared to what I need, as it pertains to overall enjoyment/relief.

Regards,

Re: Ice

Hi ,

Well, it's good not to mix antidepressants with street drugs, that's

for sure, so I'm glad you're not doing that. I'm sorry that the

antidepressants you've tried didn't work for you. It can be so hard

to find the right one or combination of right ones. It's something

I'm really frustrated about right now myself because it takes so long

to figure out what will work. For years I've been trying to find the

right balance.

It would probably be a good idea to learn about ice before you decide

whether or not you're going to try it. Informed consumer and all that

jazz. I don't know much about it myself, but I do know that it often

produces symptoms similar to schizophrenia. Also, users often

experience acute depression between hits. So if you choose to use it,

it could cause even more mental health issues than the depression that

you're trying to get away from. It's also really addictive. Right up

there on the top of the list. People who try ice don't stay

occasional users for long.

I'm wondering if you want to try ice because it sounds like it might

give you relief from the depression for a while? If that's the

reason, I understand the temptation of anything that sounds like it

would give you relief for a while, really I do. I used to drink a lot

in order to get rid of the depression, even if it was just for an

evening. Yeah, I know, crazy right? Using a depressant to get rid of

the depression. But I craved the few hours where I no longer cared or

thought about how much I hated myself and my life. Of course, it

didn't always work that way, and the times between alcohol I was still

miserable. And I was just adding another problem onto my already long

list of problems. So to make the long story short, my miracle drug

was alcohol, but it turned out to not be the miracle I hoped it would

be. The answer is differnt for everyone, but for me what's helped the

most is a combo of meds and environmental stuff like therapy and

taking morning walks and going back to school, etc etc.

Please don't give up hope on finding a solution that will work for

you. Depression sucks, it's draining, and it's so easy to lose hope.

But there is a solution out there that doesn't involve killing

yourself or dying a slow and miserable death from ice. It can just

take a while to find it. A solution is out there.

If you know that your depression is more from environmental stuff than

chemical stuff it might be a good idea to talk with someone about

other things to try besides antidepressants or in addition to them.

The most powerful antidepressant in the world isn't going to " cure "

you if the reason why you're depressed is because of something going

on in your life. A therapist or trusted friend or your doctor might

be able to help you figure out what things you want to change in your

life in order to feel better, and how to do it.

I know, I've just talked a lot. But I care what you decide to do so I

had a lot to say. Please hang in there. It does get better, even if

it doesn't feel like it ever will right now.

The internet's a great place for support, but sometimes it helps to be

able to talk to someone immediately. If you'd like to find out more

about services in your area where you could talk to someone right away

this website might help: http://www.lifeline.org.au/

I'm glad that you are still reaching out by posting. It shows that

you still have some hope for yourself. Please draw on that hope and

don't give up!

Jen

>

> Never used it before. Im a pensioner so I would rarely be able to

afford it anyway so my health should be fine. Lex and the rest didnt

do squat for me. My depression isnt clinical, its due to outside

reasons. I really wish my mother was dead so I could kill myself.

[Guest guest]

Yes my doctor discouraged me, but it was meaningless to me, I just wanted to

know how to safely take it. As a pensioner I would rarely be able to afford it

anyway so Id manage ok with my health. Anti-depressants wont work for me because

Im depressed about outside things. Thanks for your thoughts, talking on this

list I am finding to be therapeutic.

Regards,

Re: Ice

I have belonged to this group now for about a month. Ice is not the

answer. Finding the right med is. Did your Doc not discourage you

from trying ice? This is a very dangerous drug. I know from

exoerience. You start out feeling great at first then BOOM major

depression sets in 10 times worse.After several suicide attempts when

I was younger finallY I am feeling good about my self. Great husband,

job, friends who are all very supportive. I also found the right meds.

Please think twice before giving up on meds.I'll pray for you

Pat

Ive gone off Lex because I need

to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

> the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness

anymore

> so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was

on

> 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a

wooziness

> in my brain.

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, but its hard to keep your head up when youve been suffering for 10 long

years, like, when will it all end?

I hope to start my life soon, really for the first time without massive anxiety

and other problems. The last 10 years Ive been holed up in my room(admittedly

treating my problems by smoking pot) and I have experienced no life, Ive done

very little in life, yet my appetite for it is vast.

Take care,

Re: Ice

>

> Forgive me, but what is ice?

>

>

>

> <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone

> off Lex because I need to take ice, and its

> dangerous to mix

> the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness

> and emptiness anymore

> so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My

> comment is that I was on

> 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects

> except for a wooziness

> in my brain.

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,

You will make it. We are all here for you to talk to and alot of us here have

some good information to share. None of us are doctors of course but we have all

been there trust me. I still have days where I say I cant take this S*** any

more. But I am still here and I want to be here. Please reconsider taking ICE. I

have someone I care about very much that used that horrible drug and let me tell

you know the outcome is never good. Please see your doctor, try a diff med,

counseling, support groups in your area. Joining this group was a good start.

Please email anytime. Take care and I will pray for you..

L

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote:

Thank you for caring. All I know is that I cant take it anymore,

someone like me isnt 100 percent rational in the decision-making department. I

havent been out with a woman in 10 years is my problem. I love women dearly and

am a compassionate person. I really cant live without them. My upbringing and

genes have made me this way. Im depressed, I dont have a partner, I live by

myself in government housing and I have a shitty car and havent worked in years,

and have jack-all friends who I rarely see. I take an antipsychotic because

years ago they thought I had schizophrenia, the schiz med I take has an AD in it

and admittedly it does something for me.

I approach AD's impartially to be honest, Im not so judgemental and opinionated

about meds these days.

If I can manage to make it about 3 months I should be alright as Im working with

an employment agency(currently am unfairly suspended) and hope to be working

full time in about 2-3 months as I will qualify to do my old job again. If I can

make it to this time Ill be ok because Ill have something to do(a job) and

adequate money.

Take care,

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Im seeing my doctor this morning, I will mention it to him thanks.

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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, has your Doc tried you on an " MAO inshibitor " ? It's a classification

of drug that is prescribed as a last resort because of their chemical

properities. There's a special diet that you have to follow when it is being

taken. It's usually given to people that have not had good luck with SSRI's

sich as Lex, or tricyclic AD or amipramine etc.

Sue C

Re: Ice

Forgive me, but what is ice?

<rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote: Ive gone off Lex because I need to take

ice, and its dangerous to mix

the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness and emptiness anymore

so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My comment is that I was on

20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects except for a wooziness

in my brain.

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Im seeing my doctor this morning, I will mention it to him thanks.

Where do you live where you can get access to a doctor on Sunday?? Terry

[Guest guest]

lol. Its Monday in Australia.

Re: Ice

Im seeing my doctor this morning, I will mention it to him thanks.

Where do you live where you can get access to a doctor on Sunday?? Terry

[Guest guest]

since you're depressed about outside things have you

been going to a psyc. or some other mental health pro.

to talk things out?

ak

--- <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote:

> Yes my doctor discouraged me, but it was meaningless

> to me, I just wanted to know how to safely take it.

> As a pensioner I would rarely be able to afford it

> anyway so Id manage ok with my health.

> Anti-depressants wont work for me because Im

> depressed about outside things. Thanks for your

> thoughts, talking on this list I am finding to be

> therapeutic.

> Regards,

>

>

> Re: Ice

>

>

>

> I have belonged to this group now for about a

> month. Ice is not the

> answer. Finding the right med is. Did your Doc not

> discourage you

> from trying ice? This is a very dangerous drug. I

> know from

> exoerience. You start out feeling great at first

> then BOOM major

> depression sets in 10 times worse.After several

> suicide attempts when

> I was younger finallY I am feeling good about my

> self. Great husband,

> job, friends who are all very supportive. I also

> found the right meds.

> Please think twice before giving up on meds.I'll

> pray for you

>

> Pat

>

> Ive gone off

> Lex because I need

> to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

> > the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness

> and emptiness

> anymore

> > so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My

> comment is that I was

> on

> > 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects

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> > in my brain.

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wow, this board is reaching way over there? cool :0)

ak

--- <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote:

> lol. Its Monday in Australia.

> Re: Ice

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>

> Im seeing my doctor this morning, I will mention

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This board reaches everywhere, I'm in Tel-Aviv for the time being.

-- njg

PS - No problem getting a dr here on Sunday, the work week is Sunday-

Thursday... Getting a doctor on Saturday can be tough, but far from

impossible.

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how hard/easy is it to get your meds. over in

Tel-Aviv?

ak

--- njg <marianpone@...> wrote:

> This board reaches everywhere, I'm in Tel-Aviv for

> the time being.

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> -- njg

>

>

> PS - No problem getting a dr here on Sunday, the

> work week is Sunday-

> Thursday... Getting a doctor on Saturday can be

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> > > Where do you live where you can get access to

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not really. I keep waiting for my doc to talk it out but he doesnt initiate it.

I dont see how it could help anyway, Ive already anylised(sp) myself to death.

Re: Ice

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> I have belonged to this group now for about a

> month. Ice is not the

> answer. Finding the right med is. Did your Doc not

> discourage you

> from trying ice? This is a very dangerous drug. I

> know from

> exoerience. You start out feeling great at first

> then BOOM major

> depression sets in 10 times worse.After several

> suicide attempts when

> I was younger finallY I am feeling good about my

> self. Great husband,

> job, friends who are all very supportive. I also

> found the right meds.

> Please think twice before giving up on meds.I'll

> pray for you

>

> Pat

>

> Ive gone off

> Lex because I need

> to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

> > the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the loneliness

> and emptiness

> anymore

> > so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My

> comment is that I was

> on

> > 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill effects

> except for a

> wooziness

> > in my brain.

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Audrey --

No problem at all. Lexapro isn't in the " basket of

medications " that HMOs are required by law to include

in their coverage, but the small supplement I pay to

them (the HMO) monthly covers most of the cost.

I think were I paying on my own 10 mg would come to

about $2 a day, but I'll be filling my precription

today after work, and I'll note the exact price.

A lot of meds are in the " basket " , but my doctor

strongly recommended Lexapro, and she was 100% right

on that!

njg

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--- AUDREY KOEPKE <audkoe@...> wrote:

> how hard/easy is it to get your meds. over in

> Tel-Aviv?

> ak

>

> --- njg <marianpone@...> wrote:

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> > This board reaches everywhere, I'm in Tel-Aviv for

> > the time being.

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> > -- njg

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> > PS - No problem getting a dr here on Sunday, the

> > work week is Sunday-

> > Thursday... Getting a doctor on Saturday can be

> > tough, but far from

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" I don't trust anyone over ten who listens to the Sound of Music. " -- Goodbye

Lover (1999)

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[Guest guest]

Don't wait for your doc to initiate the conversation

in this area as they usually don't. You have to be

pro-active in this. They let you make the first move

so they know that you want to talk. If they make the

first move it could be concidered invasion of privacy.

Trying to be your own psyc. is not a good idea. It's

like trying to operate on yourself - not a good idea.

Talking things out with a professional neutral party

will help you get a different perspective on things

and help you come up with real solutions. They can ask

you questions about things that you probably never

even thought of, go into areas that didn't seem

important to you before. I encourage you to talk to a

professional in this area. Your primary care physician

may not be the right person because they are not

trained in the psych. area. If you find you don't get

anywhere with your present psych. then find another

one. Maybe WEBMD might beable to help you find some in

your area, I don't know if that have that service or

not. I found my psyc. thru my physician. Don't give up

. Remember, you're worth it.

ak

--- <rroobbeerrtt@...> wrote:

> not really. I keep waiting for my doc to talk it out

> but he doesnt initiate it. I dont see how it could

> help anyway, Ive already anylised(sp) myself to

> death.

> Re: Ice

> >

> >

> >

> > I have belonged to this group now for about a

> > month. Ice is not the

> > answer. Finding the right med is. Did your Doc

> not

> > discourage you

> > from trying ice? This is a very dangerous drug.

> I

> > know from

> > exoerience. You start out feeling great at first

> > then BOOM major

> > depression sets in 10 times worse.After several

> > suicide attempts when

> > I was younger finallY I am feeling good about my

> > self. Great husband,

> > job, friends who are all very supportive. I also

> > found the right meds.

> > Please think twice before giving up on meds.I'll

> > pray for you

> >

> > Pat

> >

> > Ive gone off

> > Lex because I need

> > to take ice, and its dangerous to mix

> > > the 2 my doctor says. I cant take the

> loneliness

> > and emptiness

> > anymore

> > > so Im turning to ice instead of suicide. My

> > comment is that I was

> > on

> > > 20mg and stopped cold turkey with no ill

> effects

> > except for a

> > wooziness

> > > in my brain.

> > >

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