Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I'm in the US, where would I find it? How is it used? On food, in a drink, an injection? Thank you very much!!! Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:28 PM, DuncanC <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Cesium chloride is cheap by the pound. You might have to state your purpose > with it -- just say " DNA sequencing " LOL! > > There's a cesium therapy group with the expertise. It's said that dad > would still have an even chance with the therapy even if he's been sent home > to get his affairs in order. I've seen it work once, on the only person I > know personally to have used it. > > Duncan > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 LOL That is one of those arm and leg cures I was talking about. I don't have $200 right now and if I did, I'd be on my way back to see my dad. Thank you so much for the information. If I can find a way to get some, I will. Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:43 PM, DuncanC <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Cesium chloride is a couple hundred a pound from a chemical house and he'd > need about 2 tsp daily max I think in water. It's sold online in the USA. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Hey there and happy holiday. I hope I don't sound condenscending, but when I needed some money a few years ago I collected cans. The good places are parks, colleges, hospitals... Anywhere lots of people are. I made a 1500 mortgage payment in one month and stayed out of foreclosure. Just a suggestion. You family will be in my prayers. Jules. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Re: O/T Cancer cures LOL That is one of those arm and leg cures I was talking about. I don't have $200 right now and if I did, I'd be on my way back to see my dad. Thank you so much for the information. If I can find a way to get some, I will. Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:43 PM, DuncanC <duncancrow@...> wrote: > Cesium chloride is a couple hundred a pound from a chemical house and he'd > need about 2 tsp daily max I think in water. It's sold online in the USA. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thank you. I will see if any of my family out here is willing to give it a go. I don't really suppose there would be as many cans around during winter as there are during the summer. Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 3:47 PM, <cocheesie420@...> wrote: > Hey there and happy holiday. I hope I don't sound condenscending, but when > I needed some money a few years ago I collected cans. The good places are > parks, colleges, hospitals... Anywhere lots of people are. I made a 1500 > mortgage payment in one month and stayed out of foreclosure. Just a > suggestion. You family will be in my prayers. > > Jules. > Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T > > Re: Re: O/T Cancer cures > > LOL That is one of those arm and leg cures I was talking about. I don't > have > $200 right now and if I did, I'd be on my way back to see my dad. Thank you > so much for the information. If I can find a way to get some, I will. > Sylvia > > On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 1:43 PM, DuncanC <duncancrow@...> wrote: > > > Cesium chloride is a couple hundred a pound from a chemical house and > he'd > > need about 2 tsp daily max I think in water. It's sold online in the USA. > > > > all good, > > > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. > Anyone > > > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > > > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Yes, I know. I just wish that it had come out earlier. Last year my brother-in-law died right before Thanksgiving. I knew he had cancer but I didn't know how bad it was. He was gone in 2 weeks. Thanks, Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM, DuncanC <duncancrow@...> wrote: > If it's any consolation ol' dad probably won't need a whole pound of cesium > chloride anyway. Results should be forthcoming within days and he can make a > judgement call on whether to extend the therapy then > > Best to start right away tho'. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > > > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. > > > Anyone > > > > > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds > or > > > > > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Thank you. I appreciate any and all help. I will have a lot of reading to do in the next few days. Sylvia On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 4:27 PM, orelindel <whatmattersmost@...>wrote: > For colon cancer check out these sites . . . > > http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090413141259.htm > > http://www.jacksongi.com/diets/Colon_Polyps_Cancer_Dietary_Therapy.aspx > > http://www.avianweb.com/coloncancer.html > > I'd also pay particular attention to niacin and Butyric Cal-Mag by Biotics. > These sites focus on increasing butyrate levels through the diet or > supplements. Butyric Cal-Mag is a supplement which your dad could try in > addition to the dietary measures. > > > > Anyone know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2009 Report Share Posted December 29, 2009 _____ * Sylvia wrote: * > I have been looking up cancer cures or cancer remedies or anything like that and have found a couple of inexpensive things to try but again, I am out here and have no way to make sure he gets the " medicines " that I might suggest or even send out there. > > So, while I sit here and stew trying to find a way out there, I am looking for things like home remedies that will cure cancer. I don't know how long he has but I'd like to know if anyone in this group knows of a simple thing to do that can cure cancer. It doesn't have to be, like, over night sort of thing. I don't know if he can be saved or cured or if he will even take what I can find. > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia Hi, Sylvia; FYI, the following, hope it is useful, Taffy PREVENTION AND CURE OF DEGENERATIVE ILLNESSES POTASSIUM ASCORBATE From Andromeda's publications (n°6/1991) The Degenerative Diseases In our organism normally phenomena of electric and atomic origin occur, either in the exchange between cell and cell or inside the cell itself. Each of our cells has an equilibrium between its inside and outside that is based on the stability of membrane potential and on the regularity of the Sodium - Potassium Pump mechanism. All the light elements (at least 21) are essential for life. From those, the fundamentals are, in particular, four: Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, and Magnesium. The healthy individual has: - all the necessary elements in the correct quantity - a regular membrane potential and a regular functioning of the sodium - potassium pump - an integral and efficient immune system In a healthy body, according to necessity, transmutations occur, by enzyme action, of one element to another: calcium into potassium or magnesium, sodium into potassium or magnesium, magnesium into calcium, potassium into calcium, etc. In particular, the balance of the sodium-potassium pump is safeguarded by ascorbates of the four elements, that is, by the salinization of these by ascorbic acid. The balanced organism can maintain this process active and, consequently, the immune system designed to fight every form of aggression. Nutrition being the origin of the supplying of the necessary elements to produce ascorbates, and since modern food is poorer, adulterated and polluted, they themselves are a cause or the cause of many pathologies. The Degenerative Mechanism Every degenerative process provokes a genetic modification. In our cells there is a fundamental element, an essential constituent of life, the ribose, which is found inside the RNA (acid ribonucleic), that has the responsibility for transporting the necessary information for the synthesis of proteins from chromosomes (DNA), where it is formed, to the ribosomic site in which this synthesis occurs. Moreover, every gene has an enzyme and this enzyme is correlated to RNA. When a cause of imbalance occurs (stress by pollution, emotional stress, viral attack, incorrect nutrition and poor of important elements, use of drugs, etc.), the introduction of poisons into the cell hits and blocks, above all, the enzymes, consequently reverberating on the RNA, creating lesions on it. So the genetic information remains altered and cellular degeneration can occur at any moment. The indicator symptoms of a degenerative process occur when: - In the sodium-potassium pump high rates of sodium and low rates of potassium are indicated inside the cell and vice-versa outside it, while normally sodium and calcium stay outside the cell and magnesium and potassium stay inside. - The membrane potential that in old and diseased cells decreases to 50mV (milli-volts), in degenerated cells lowers as far as 15mV. - Consequently, a general abatement of the immune defences occurs, because the organism thus unbalanced in genetic information, cannot assure the efficiency of the system. " Conventional " Therapies A) Prevention and Early Diagnoses Official medicine responds to degenerative illnesses, praising methods purely predictive and marketing them as preventive, while there is no follow-up with real prevention, rather just a long line of screenings (multi-phased tests, etc) and general advice on " healthy nutrition " , refraining from smoking and the use of illegal drugs, etc. The early diagnosis of breast and uterus cancer deserves praise for its optimal results, except for a certain facile use of extraction surgery. Real preventive medicine is one which finds and attempts to eliminate the pathogenic causes. Often, though, one works contrarily, hiding intentionally the causes, which can include air, water, earth and the pollution of the whole nutrition chain, due to industrial and vehicular poisons, radiation, etc., waiting to intervene in the progress of illness already manifested. Therapy The most popular methods in the cure of cancer are: 1) Surgery: according to many researchers this is the one that can give good results in the cure of cancer 2) Radiation: this can give useful results in skin cancer and in those types upon which one cannot perform surgery. 3) Multi-chemotherapy: chemotherapy is essentially based on the use of hidden chemical aggressors that destroy cancerous cells but produce very serious organic damage. These aggressive substances, real poisons, impairing the basal system in such a way that the organism itself, consuming the last immune resources, shows a phase of apparent improvement; after that the tumour metastasis spreads more quickly and vital organs are compromised (heart, liver, lungs) 4) Hormones: hormone therapy, natural or synthetic, has shown positive results on some neo-plastic forms with a hormone-dependent typology, such as those of breast, prostate or uterus cancer. Substantially, one can affirm that none of these methods works on the causes and on the organic imbalances, but only attack the symptoms. " Unconventional " therapies 1) Immunological method The study of immunology in recent years brought to evidence many complex interrelations in cellular cooperation between the elements of the immune system, clearing the concept of " immunological supervising " . The cancer tumour, once arising, favours the initiation of another immunological deficit, so the patient is an extremely immuno-depressed subject. Thus one can deduct that the cancer has to be fought primarily by trying to restore the immune structure of the patient and at the same time to activate the killer cells and the antibodies that could then neutralize and kill the neo-plastic cell. The use then of immuno-stimulants (such as IMB/ZT6) tends to restore the deficient immune properties going beyond the mere stopping and destroying of the cancer, thus improving the organism's immune defences (Dr.Zora). 2) Biochemical method: It is essentially based on the use of ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate and potassium ascorbate. This method has its origins in Stone, ing and Cameron's theories, in which is supported the use of ascorbic acid to prevent and fight cancer. The association of these two methods can prove particularly efficient both in a preventive and in a therapeutic use. 3) Other methods An extensive range of other methods exists that gives positive results, working on nutrition (eubiotic, macrobiotic, fasting therapy, vegetarian diet, etc) or on the energetic organic-psychic baggage (prano-therapy, hypnosis, dowsing, music-therapy, bio-electronic, etc) or on an organic level (homeopathy, phyto-therapy, magneto-therapy, activated water, propolis, inositol, etc.). These methods as well as others can have both a preventive and a therapeutic function, attempting to maintain a well-balanced individual, in his/her totality: body, mind and spirit (Integrated Medicine, Ayurveda, Holistic Medicine, etc). The Difference Between Immunological and Biochemical Methods and the Conventional Ones A) Prevention and Early Diagnostics An investigation would be useful that included an adequate sampling which could demonstrate the preventive efficacy of potassium ascorbate and IMB/ZT6. By now we have official medicine's recognition of the use of Vitamin C, sodium and potassium in the cure and prevention of cancer and other degenerative diseases. Up to this point, however, none of the recorded persons that have ingested potassium ascorbate in a preventive way have contracted degenerative diseases. In this case an early diagnosis could prove useful with the possibility for the preventive use of these methods in view. Therapy A complete healing of cancer patients treated by potassium ascorbate, or with IMB/ZT6 or with the combination of both can be verified by testimonial. Also in cases of an incomplete healing, the use of these therapies assured (contrary to chemotherapeutic treatments): .. Always: an improvement of general conditions .. Often: a prolonging of life .. Always: an evident decrease or disappearance of correlated painful syndromes Potassium ascorbate It is a white microcrystalline salt easily water-soluble that one can obtain by mixing ascorbic acid (Vit.C) and potassium bicarbonate. It acts to balance the mechanism of sodium-potassium pump and to expel sodium from the cellular nucleus. Precisely it goes to reconstruct the missing ribosium. It can be used in a preventive or a therapeutic way, modifying the quality of the dosage. IMB/ZT6 It is a liquid product that contains lipopolisaccarides extracted from a certain hybrid bacterial species whose main characteristic is non-toxic. The use of this therapy need not be limited only in terminal situations where the patient has very few chances to respond pharmacologically, even if many patients in these conditions have obtained optimal improvement. The best formula is the preventive one, that realizes an immune control also on subjects apparently healthy. For cancer patients it is opportune to start the therapy immediately, with the objective of creating immediately a solid immune barrier against the disease's advancement. At any rate, an important element is its absolute harmlessness and the lack of collateral effects. Conclusions Many researchers that have been ignored, such as Stone, Pantellini, Zora, etc., sustain that if a tenacious program of research had been established since 1969, now one could know much more about the role of ascorbate in cancer cure. Why are these low-cost and efficacious therapies ignored by official medicine? In a historical moment in which science learned to modify the course of diseases, relieve pain, cure serious health disturbances, avoid premature deaths, in the past twenty years our health has not experienced much progress, strangely coinciding with an enormous expansion of research programs and relative financial aid. The up to the present epidemic progress of cancer, chronic-degenerative diseases, psychosomatic diseases, doesn't permit any " neutrality " to science when an imposed reality of a pathology is borne from the organization of work, expropriation of free time, impoverishment of cohabitation, social decomposition, urban constriction, poisoning of soil, water, air; from whatever comes from the abuse of man by man and that which we define as a " society of well-being " . Health cannot be an ethical or scientific matter in such a system, but only a guarantee of economical earning (profit) and an ulterior sphere of power management (social control). The profit: a) Low cost products such as potassium ascorbate and IMB/ZT6 do not permit worthwhile profits to the pharmaceutical industries. Preventive function first and therapeutic after would make un-useful the recourse to the disease industry, (medicine, machines, structures, people, corporations, research associations, etc.), which absorbs rivers of money from citizens. The social control: To keep people under the nightmare of pestilence or invincible diseases is translated into a control of social psychology and in the masking of social economic contradictions and real causes of illness that derive from it. Nothing, however, would change if instead of using medicines with collateral effects we would only use those which are harmless: if the medicine " attracts " , certainly the multinationals would appropriate it. To say this truth doesn't mean not to give recognition to medicine the objectivity of its successes and the merit of its protagonists. It means, rather, to read correctly its genesis and its development, its logic and contradictions, to understand finally, its crisis. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 What is IMB/ZT6? I tried google and did not see anything which seemed to pertain to what was written below. Alobar On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Taffy <taffya@...> wrote: > > > > >  _____ > > *    Sylvia wrote: > > * >> I have been looking up cancer cures or cancer remedies or anything like > that and have found a couple of inexpensive things to try but again, I am > out here and have no way to make sure he gets the " medicines " that I might > suggest or even send out there. >> >> So, while I sit here and stew trying to find a way out there, I am looking > for things like home remedies that will cure cancer. I don't know how long > he has but I'd like to know if anyone in this group knows of a simple thing > to do that can cure cancer. It doesn't have to be, like, over night sort of > thing. I don't know if he can be saved or cured or if he will even take what > I can find. >> >> All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone know > of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or thousands of > dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > Hi, Sylvia; > > FYI, the following, hope it is useful, > > Taffy > > > PREVENTION AND CURE OF DEGENERATIVE ILLNESSES > > POTASSIUM ASCORBATE > > From Andromeda's publications (n°6/1991) > > The Degenerative Diseases > > In our organism normally phenomena of electric and atomic origin occur, > either in the exchange between cell and cell or inside the cell itself. > Each of our cells has an equilibrium between its inside and outside that is > based on the stability of membrane potential and on the regularity of the > Sodium - Potassium Pump mechanism. > All the light elements (at least 21) are essential for life. From those, the > fundamentals are, in particular, four: Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, and > Magnesium. > The healthy individual has: > - all the necessary elements in the correct quantity > - a regular membrane potential and a regular functioning of the sodium - > potassium pump > - an integral and efficient immune system > > In a healthy body, according to necessity, transmutations occur, by enzyme > action, of one element to another: calcium into potassium or magnesium, > sodium into potassium or magnesium, magnesium into calcium, potassium into > calcium, etc. In particular, the balance of the sodium-potassium pump is > safeguarded by ascorbates of the four elements, that is, by the salinization > of these by ascorbic acid. > The balanced organism can maintain this process active and, consequently, > the immune system designed to fight every form of aggression. Nutrition > being the origin of the supplying of the necessary elements to produce > ascorbates, and since modern food is poorer, adulterated and polluted, they > themselves are a cause or the cause of many pathologies. > > The Degenerative Mechanism > > Every degenerative process provokes a genetic modification. In our cells > there is a fundamental element, an essential constituent of life, the > ribose, which is found inside the RNA (acid ribonucleic), that has the > responsibility for transporting the necessary information for the synthesis > of proteins from chromosomes (DNA), where it is formed, to the ribosomic > site in which this synthesis occurs. Moreover, every gene has an enzyme and > this enzyme is correlated to RNA. > When a cause of imbalance occurs (stress by pollution, emotional stress, > viral attack, incorrect nutrition and poor of important elements, use of > drugs, etc.), the introduction of poisons into the cell hits and blocks, > above all, the enzymes, consequently reverberating on the RNA, creating > lesions on it. So the genetic information remains altered and cellular > degeneration can occur at any moment. > The indicator symptoms of a degenerative process occur when: > - In the sodium-potassium pump high rates of sodium and low rates of > potassium are indicated inside the cell and vice-versa outside it, while > normally sodium and calcium stay outside the cell and magnesium and > potassium stay inside. > - The membrane potential that in old and diseased cells decreases to 50mV > (milli-volts), in degenerated cells lowers as far as 15mV. > - Consequently, a general abatement of the immune defences occurs, because > the organism thus unbalanced in genetic information, cannot assure the > efficiency of the system. > > " Conventional " Therapies > > A) Prevention and Early Diagnoses > Official medicine responds to degenerative illnesses, praising methods > purely predictive and marketing them as preventive, while there is no > follow-up with real prevention, rather just a long line of screenings > (multi-phased tests, etc) and general advice on " healthy nutrition " , > refraining from smoking and the use of illegal drugs, etc. > The early diagnosis of breast and uterus cancer deserves praise for its > optimal results, except for a certain facile use of extraction surgery. > Real preventive medicine is one which finds and attempts to eliminate the > pathogenic causes. > Often, though, one works contrarily, hiding intentionally the causes, which > can include air, water, earth and the pollution of the whole nutrition > chain, due to industrial and vehicular poisons, radiation, etc., waiting to > intervene in the progress of illness already manifested. > > Therapy > The most popular methods in the cure of cancer are: > 1) Surgery: according to many researchers this is the one that can give good > results in the cure of cancer > 2) Radiation: this can give useful results in skin cancer and in those types > upon which one cannot perform surgery. > 3) Multi-chemotherapy: chemotherapy is essentially based on the use of > hidden chemical aggressors that destroy cancerous cells but produce very > serious organic damage. These aggressive substances, real poisons, impairing > the basal system in such a way that the organism itself, consuming the last > immune resources, shows a phase of apparent improvement; after that the > tumour metastasis spreads more quickly and vital organs are compromised > (heart, liver, lungs) > 4) Hormones: hormone therapy, natural or synthetic, has shown positive > results on some neo-plastic forms with a hormone-dependent typology, such as > those of breast, prostate or uterus cancer. > > Substantially, one can affirm that none of these methods works on the causes > and on the organic imbalances, but only attack the symptoms. > > " Unconventional " therapies > > 1) Immunological method > The study of immunology in recent years brought to evidence many complex > interrelations in cellular cooperation between the elements of the immune > system, clearing the concept of " immunological supervising " . The cancer > tumour, once arising, favours the initiation of another immunological > deficit, so the patient is an extremely immuno-depressed subject. Thus one > can deduct that the cancer has to be fought primarily by trying to restore > the immune structure of the patient and at the same time to activate the > killer cells and the antibodies that could then neutralize and kill the > neo-plastic cell. The use then of immuno-stimulants (such as IMB/ZT6) tends > to restore the deficient immune properties going beyond the mere stopping > and destroying of the cancer, thus improving the organism's immune defences > (Dr.Zora). > > 2) Biochemical method: > It is essentially based on the use of ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate and > potassium ascorbate. This method has its origins in Stone, ing and > Cameron's theories, in which is supported the use of ascorbic acid to > prevent and fight cancer. > The association of these two methods can prove particularly efficient both > in a preventive and in a therapeutic use. > > 3) Other methods > An extensive range of other methods exists that gives positive results, > working on nutrition (eubiotic, macrobiotic, fasting therapy, vegetarian > diet, etc) or on the energetic organic-psychic baggage (prano-therapy, > hypnosis, dowsing, music-therapy, bio-electronic, etc) or on an organic > level (homeopathy, phyto-therapy, magneto-therapy, activated water, > propolis, inositol, etc.). These methods as well as others can have both a > preventive and a therapeutic function, attempting to maintain a > well-balanced individual, in his/her totality: body, mind and spirit > (Integrated Medicine, Ayurveda, Holistic Medicine, etc). > > The Difference Between Immunological and Biochemical Methods and the > Conventional Ones > > A) Prevention and Early Diagnostics > An investigation would be useful that included an adequate sampling which > could demonstrate the preventive efficacy of potassium ascorbate and > IMB/ZT6. By now we have official medicine's recognition of the use of > Vitamin C, sodium and potassium in the cure and prevention of cancer and > other degenerative diseases. Up to this point, however, none of the recorded > persons that have ingested potassium ascorbate in a preventive way have > contracted degenerative diseases. In this case an early diagnosis could > prove useful with the possibility for the preventive use of these methods in > view. > > Therapy > A complete healing of cancer patients treated by potassium ascorbate, or > with IMB/ZT6 or with the combination of both can be verified by testimonial. > Also in cases of an incomplete healing, the use of these therapies assured > (contrary to chemotherapeutic treatments): > . Always: an improvement of general conditions > . Often: a prolonging of life > . Always: an evident decrease or disappearance of correlated painful > syndromes > > Potassium ascorbate > > It is a white microcrystalline salt easily water-soluble that one can obtain > by mixing ascorbic acid (Vit.C) and potassium bicarbonate. > It acts to balance the mechanism of sodium-potassium pump and to expel > sodium from the cellular nucleus. Precisely it goes to reconstruct the > missing ribosium. It can be used in a preventive or a therapeutic way, > modifying the quality of the dosage. > > IMB/ZT6 > > It is a liquid product that contains lipopolisaccarides extracted from a > certain hybrid bacterial species whose main characteristic is non-toxic. > The use of this therapy need not be limited only in terminal situations > where the patient has very few chances to respond pharmacologically, even if > many patients in these conditions have obtained optimal improvement. The > best formula is the preventive one, that realizes an immune control also on > subjects apparently healthy. > For cancer patients it is opportune to start the therapy immediately, with > the objective of creating immediately a solid immune barrier against the > disease's advancement. > At any rate, an important element is its absolute harmlessness and the lack > of collateral effects. > > Conclusions > > Many researchers that have been ignored, such as Stone, Pantellini, Zora, > etc., sustain that if a tenacious program of research had been established > since 1969, now one could know much more about the role of ascorbate in > cancer cure. > Why are these low-cost and efficacious therapies ignored by official > medicine? > In a historical moment in which science learned to modify the course of > diseases, relieve pain, cure serious health disturbances, avoid premature > deaths, in the past twenty years our health has not experienced much > progress, strangely coinciding with an enormous expansion of research > programs and relative financial aid. > The up to the present epidemic progress of cancer, chronic-degenerative > diseases, psychosomatic diseases, doesn't permit any " neutrality " to science > when an imposed reality of a pathology is borne from the organization of > work, expropriation of free time, impoverishment of cohabitation, social > decomposition, urban constriction, poisoning of soil, water, air; from > whatever comes from the abuse of man by man and that which we define as a > " society of well-being " . > Health cannot be an ethical or scientific matter in such a system, but only > a guarantee of economical earning (profit) and an ulterior sphere of power > management (social control). > The profit: > a) Low cost products such as potassium ascorbate and IMB/ZT6 do not permit > worthwhile profits to the pharmaceutical industries. > Preventive function first and therapeutic after would make un-useful the > recourse to the disease industry, (medicine, machines, structures, people, > corporations, research associations, etc.), which absorbs rivers of money > from citizens. > > The social control: > To keep people under the nightmare of pestilence or invincible diseases is > translated into a control of social psychology and in the masking of social > economic contradictions and real causes of illness that derive from it. > Nothing, however, would change if instead of using medicines with collateral > effects we would only use those which are harmless: if the medicine > " attracts " , certainly the multinationals would appropriate it. > > To say this truth doesn't mean not to give recognition to medicine the > objectivity of its successes and the merit of its protagonists. It means, > rather, to read correctly its genesis and its development, its logic and > contradictions, to understand finally, its crisis. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 The company nsc has some awesome products. They can be found at nsc24.com Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T RE: Re: O/T Cancer cures _____ * Sylvia wrote: * > I have been looking up cancer cures or cancer remedies or anything like that and have found a couple of inexpensive things to try but again, I am out here and have no way to make sure he gets the " medicines " that I might suggest or even send out there. > > So, while I sit here and stew trying to find a way out there, I am looking for things like home remedies that will cure cancer. I don't know how long he has but I'd like to know if anyone in this group knows of a simple thing to do that can cure cancer. It doesn't have to be, like, over night sort of thing. I don't know if he can be saved or cured or if he will even take what I can find. > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia Hi, Sylvia; FYI, the following, hope it is useful, Taffy PREVENTION AND CURE OF DEGENERATIVE ILLNESSES POTASSIUM ASCORBATE From Andromeda's publications (n°6/1991) The Degenerative Diseases In our organism normally phenomena of electric and atomic origin occur, either in the exchange between cell and cell or inside the cell itself. Each of our cells has an equilibrium between its inside and outside that is based on the stability of membrane potential and on the regularity of the Sodium - Potassium Pump mechanism. All the light elements (at least 21) are essential for life. From those, the fundamentals are, in particular, four: Sodium, Potassium, Calcium, and Magnesium. The healthy individual has: - all the necessary elements in the correct quantity - a regular membrane potential and a regular functioning of the sodium - potassium pump - an integral and efficient immune system In a healthy body, according to necessity, transmutations occur, by enzyme action, of one element to another: calcium into potassium or magnesium, sodium into potassium or magnesium, magnesium into calcium, potassium into calcium, etc. In particular, the balance of the sodium-potassium pump is safeguarded by ascorbates of the four elements, that is, by the salinization of these by ascorbic acid. The balanced organism can maintain this process active and, consequently, the immune system designed to fight every form of aggression. Nutrition being the origin of the supplying of the necessary elements to produce ascorbates, and since modern food is poorer, adulterated and polluted, they themselves are a cause or the cause of many pathologies. The Degenerative Mechanism Every degenerative process provokes a genetic modification. In our cells there is a fundamental element, an essential constituent of life, the ribose, which is found inside the RNA (acid ribonucleic), that has the responsibility for transporting the necessary information for the synthesis of proteins from chromosomes (DNA), where it is formed, to the ribosomic site in which this synthesis occurs. Moreover, every gene has an enzyme and this enzyme is correlated to RNA. When a cause of imbalance occurs (stress by pollution, emotional stress, viral attack, incorrect nutrition and poor of important elements, use of drugs, etc.), the introduction of poisons into the cell hits and blocks, above all, the enzymes, consequently reverberating on the RNA, creating lesions on it. So the genetic information remains altered and cellular degeneration can occur at any moment. The indicator symptoms of a degenerative process occur when: - In the sodium-potassium pump high rates of sodium and low rates of potassium are indicated inside the cell and vice-versa outside it, while normally sodium and calcium stay outside the cell and magnesium and potassium stay inside. - The membrane potential that in old and diseased cells decreases to 50mV (milli-volts), in degenerated cells lowers as far as 15mV. - Consequently, a general abatement of the immune defences occurs, because the organism thus unbalanced in genetic information, cannot assure the efficiency of the system. " Conventional " Therapies A) Prevention and Early Diagnoses Official medicine responds to degenerative illnesses, praising methods purely predictive and marketing them as preventive, while there is no follow-up with real prevention, rather just a long line of screenings (multi-phased tests, etc) and general advice on " healthy nutrition " , refraining from smoking and the use of illegal drugs, etc. The early diagnosis of breast and uterus cancer deserves praise for its optimal results, except for a certain facile use of extraction surgery. Real preventive medicine is one which finds and attempts to eliminate the pathogenic causes. Often, though, one works contrarily, hiding intentionally the causes, which can include air, water, earth and the pollution of the whole nutrition chain, due to industrial and vehicular poisons, radiation, etc., waiting to intervene in the progress of illness already manifested. Therapy The most popular methods in the cure of cancer are: 1) Surgery: according to many researchers this is the one that can give good results in the cure of cancer 2) Radiation: this can give useful results in skin cancer and in those types upon which one cannot perform surgery. 3) Multi-chemotherapy: chemotherapy is essentially based on the use of hidden chemical aggressors that destroy cancerous cells but produce very serious organic damage. These aggressive substances, real poisons, impairing the basal system in such a way that the organism itself, consuming the last immune resources, shows a phase of apparent improvement; after that the tumour metastasis spreads more quickly and vital organs are compromised (heart, liver, lungs) 4) Hormones: hormone therapy, natural or synthetic, has shown positive results on some neo-plastic forms with a hormone-dependent typology, such as those of breast, prostate or uterus cancer. Substantially, one can affirm that none of these methods works on the causes and on the organic imbalances, but only attack the symptoms. " Unconventional " therapies 1) Immunological method The study of immunology in recent years brought to evidence many complex interrelations in cellular cooperation between the elements of the immune system, clearing the concept of " immunological supervising " . The cancer tumour, once arising, favours the initiation of another immunological deficit, so the patient is an extremely immuno-depressed subject. Thus one can deduct that the cancer has to be fought primarily by trying to restore the immune structure of the patient and at the same time to activate the killer cells and the antibodies that could then neutralize and kill the neo-plastic cell. The use then of immuno-stimulants (such as IMB/ZT6) tends to restore the deficient immune properties going beyond the mere stopping and destroying of the cancer, thus improving the organism's immune defences (Dr.Zora). 2) Biochemical method: It is essentially based on the use of ascorbic acid, sodium ascorbate and potassium ascorbate. This method has its origins in Stone, ing and Cameron's theories, in which is supported the use of ascorbic acid to prevent and fight cancer. The association of these two methods can prove particularly efficient both in a preventive and in a therapeutic use. 3) Other methods An extensive range of other methods exists that gives positive results, working on nutrition (eubiotic, macrobiotic, fasting therapy, vegetarian diet, etc) or on the energetic organic-psychic baggage (prano-therapy, hypnosis, dowsing, music-therapy, bio-electronic, etc) or on an organic level (homeopathy, phyto-therapy, magneto-therapy, activated water, propolis, inositol, etc.). These methods as well as others can have both a preventive and a therapeutic function, attempting to maintain a well-balanced individual, in his/her totality: body, mind and spirit (Integrated Medicine, Ayurveda, Holistic Medicine, etc). The Difference Between Immunological and Biochemical Methods and the Conventional Ones A) Prevention and Early Diagnostics An investigation would be useful that included an adequate sampling which could demonstrate the preventive efficacy of potassium ascorbate and IMB/ZT6. By now we have official medicine's recognition of the use of Vitamin C, sodium and potassium in the cure and prevention of cancer and other degenerative diseases. Up to this point, however, none of the recorded persons that have ingested potassium ascorbate in a preventive way have contracted degenerative diseases. In this case an early diagnosis could prove useful with the possibility for the preventive use of these methods in view. Therapy A complete healing of cancer patients treated by potassium ascorbate, or with IMB/ZT6 or with the combination of both can be verified by testimonial. Also in cases of an incomplete healing, the use of these therapies assured (contrary to chemotherapeutic treatments): .. Always: an improvement of general conditions .. Often: a prolonging of life .. Always: an evident decrease or disappearance of correlated painful syndromes Potassium ascorbate It is a white microcrystalline salt easily water-soluble that one can obtain by mixing ascorbic acid (Vit.C) and potassium bicarbonate. It acts to balance the mechanism of sodium-potassium pump and to expel sodium from the cellular nucleus. Precisely it goes to reconstruct the missing ribosium. It can be used in a preventive or a therapeutic way, modifying the quality of the dosage. IMB/ZT6 It is a liquid product that contains lipopolisaccarides extracted from a certain hybrid bacterial species whose main characteristic is non-toxic. The use of this therapy need not be limited only in terminal situations where the patient has very few chances to respond pharmacologically, even if many patients in these conditions have obtained optimal improvement. The best formula is the preventive one, that realizes an immune control also on subjects apparently healthy. For cancer patients it is opportune to start the therapy immediately, with the objective of creating immediately a solid immune barrier against the disease's advancement. At any rate, an important element is its absolute harmlessness and the lack of collateral effects. Conclusions Many researchers that have been ignored, such as Stone, Pantellini, Zora, etc., sustain that if a tenacious program of research had been established since 1969, now one could know much more about the role of ascorbate in cancer cure. Why are these low-cost and efficacious therapies ignored by official medicine? In a historical moment in which science learned to modify the course of diseases, relieve pain, cure serious health disturbances, avoid premature deaths, in the past twenty years our health has not experienced much progress, strangely coinciding with an enormous expansion of research programs and relative financial aid. The up to the present epidemic progress of cancer, chronic-degenerative diseases, psychosomatic diseases, doesn't permit any " neutrality " to science when an imposed reality of a pathology is borne from the organization of work, expropriation of free time, impoverishment of cohabitation, social decomposition, urban constriction, poisoning of soil, water, air; from whatever comes from the abuse of man by man and that which we define as a " society of well-being " . Health cannot be an ethical or scientific matter in such a system, but only a guarantee of economical earning (profit) and an ulterior sphere of power management (social control). The profit: a) Low cost products such as potassium ascorbate and IMB/ZT6 do not permit worthwhile profits to the pharmaceutical industries. Preventive function first and therapeutic after would make un-useful the recourse to the disease industry, (medicine, machines, structures, people, corporations, research associations, etc.), which absorbs rivers of money from citizens. The social control: To keep people under the nightmare of pestilence or invincible diseases is translated into a control of social psychology and in the masking of social economic contradictions and real causes of illness that derive from it. Nothing, however, would change if instead of using medicines with collateral effects we would only use those which are harmless: if the medicine " attracts " , certainly the multinationals would appropriate it. To say this truth doesn't mean not to give recognition to medicine the objectivity of its successes and the merit of its protagonists. It means, rather, to read correctly its genesis and its development, its logic and contradictions, to understand finally, its crisis. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Hello Sylvia, You may want to try Dr. Simoncini Tullio's protocol treatment using sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) based on the notion that cancer is actually is fungus. The ingredient is inexpensive and available. The only big hurdle is the patient's acceptance of his paradigm (and perhaps the availability of a doctor or person who will administer it). I don't have the appropriate (medical) terms/words to explain it but his website (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com) says it all. Lots of testimonies from here: http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/video-simoncini.html. All the best and I wish for you, your dad and the rest of your family great health, long life, peace, love and joy for the coming year! > Cesium chloride is cheap by the pound. You might have to state your purpose > with it -- just say " DNA sequencing " LOL! > > There's a cesium therapy group with the expertise. It's said that dad > would still have an even chance with the therapy even if he's been sent home > to get his affairs in order. I've seen it work once, on the only person I > know personally to have used it. > > Duncan > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Cancer is fungus! Check out knowthecause.com. Caprylic acid, lauric acid...all very inexpensive. Sent via BlackBerry by AT & T Re: Re: O/T Cancer cures Hello Sylvia, You may want to try Dr. Simoncini Tullio's protocol treatment using sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) based on the notion that cancer is actually is fungus. The ingredient is inexpensive and available. The only big hurdle is the patient's acceptance of his paradigm (and perhaps the availability of a doctor or person who will administer it). I don't have the appropriate (medical) terms/words to explain it but his website (http://www.curenaturalicancro.com) says it all. Lots of testimonies from here: http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/video-simoncini.html. All the best and I wish for you, your dad and the rest of your family great health, long life, peace, love and joy for the coming year! > Cesium chloride is cheap by the pound. You might have to state your purpose > with it -- just say " DNA sequencing " LOL! > > There's a cesium therapy group with the expertise. It's said that dad > would still have an even chance with the therapy even if he's been sent home > to get his affairs in order. I've seen it work once, on the only person I > know personally to have used it. > > Duncan > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2010 Report Share Posted January 1, 2010 I have a friend that cured himself of cancer over 20 years ago, and one of the most important supplement he took was e Minerals. He's still going strong at 94. From: DuncanC <duncancrow@...> Subject: Re: O/T Cancer cures Coconut Oil Date: Sunday, December 27, 2009, 4:43 PM  Cesium chloride is a couple hundred a pound from a chemical house and he'd need about 2 tsp daily max I think in water. It's sold online in the USA. all good, Duncan > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2010 Report Share Posted January 2, 2010 You may want to read about Vernon's protocol treatment using baking soda and molasses to cure his stage 4 prostate cancer that had metastasized into bone cancer. Here's the link: www.phkillscancer.com/protocol. All the best. > If it's any consolation ol' dad probably won't need a whole pound of cesium > chloride anyway. Results should be forthcoming within days and he can make a > judgement call on whether to extend the therapy then > > Best to start right away tho'. > > all good, > > Duncan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? ... > > > > > > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. > > > Anyone > > > > > > know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds > or > > > > > > thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Greg: Get your Dad off any sugar now! that includes high-sugar fruits like grapes, raisins, dates, bananas. I don't know if anything will " cure " cancer-but I do know sugars feed it. If you don't mind, I'll put your Dad and your family on my private prayer list. Laurie ________________________________ From: gnomen2 <gnomen2@...> Coconut Oil Sent: Thu, February 25, 2010 9:11:48 PM Subject: Re: O/T Cancer cures Bill has an awesome book, " Cancer Free. " A journalist, he has researched hundreds of alternative therapies, distilled his findings, and written this book which offers the promise of an effective, relatively inexpensive, do-it-yourself-at-home therapeutic protocol. It's a great book. A friend of mine, a medical doctor who has bladder cancer, recently began following this protocol, and it appears to be working for him - reduced tumor mass. Check out the reviews on amazon.com Greg > > That don't cost an arm and a leg? We found out a few days ago that my father has cancer in his colon and behind one kidney. I am in MO and he is in AZ. I am having a heck of a time getting information. I don't know if they have given him a time for how long he will live or what exactly is going on. I know he was in a hospital but now is in a rehab facility. I know he can no longer walk but I don't know if that is temporary or not. > > We are trying to scrape up the money to get back there but we are finding it difficult to pinch out any extras. My children are contributing what they can and that is a God-send right there. > > I have been looking up cancer cures or cancer remedies or anything like that and have found a couple of inexpensive things to try but again, I am out here and have no way to make sure he gets the " medicines " that I might suggest or even send out there. > > So, while I sit here and stew trying to find a way out there, I am looking for things like home remedies that will cure cancer. I don't know how long he has but I'd like to know if anyone in this group knows of a simple thing to do that can cure cancer. It doesn't have to be, like, over night sort of thing. I don't know if he can be saved or cured or if he will even take what I can find. > > All I know is that I have to feel like I am doing something. Anyone know of someone who was cured of cancer without spending hundreds or thousands of dollars? Thanks, Sylvia > ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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