Re: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

November 27, 2010

,Â Coconut oil acts like a solvent which is why it has a

'detoxifyingÂ affect'Â however, most people require their deficiencies to be

filled before doing lengthy and powerful cleanses.Â I suggest you do if for a

day (24-36 hours).Â It would be better to do 1 day per week for 6 months while

you build up your deficiencies.Â If you get rid of toxins only you will still

be

left with deficiencies.Â Also, consider that cleansing requires more nutrients

therefore, you could create more deficiencies.Â Â

Dan

Do The CURE

www.dothecure.blogspot.com

www.danhegerich.com

413.663.4985

skype; blue.collar.healer

Lenox MA

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Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 10:36:01 AM

Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

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,

All I know is that i would never take coconut oil on an empty stomach. This will

cause severe stomach ache and painful diarrhea.

>

> Hello folks,

>

> Very new to your forum. I am trying to understand whether a 3 to 7 day coconut

>detox diet is for me. I am sure you all know about it; 10-14 TB of coconut oil

>during the day, lemon water, no food. Iam thinking on this to treat bad gut

>dysbiosis and candida.

>

> Do you have any thoughts/recommendations/concerns/etc about it? Specifically,

>I'd like to know if I can add some antiparasitic herbs like uva ursi, olive

>leaf, etc.

>

> Your comments will be much appreciated.

>

> .

>

November 27, 2010

,Â For the record, I don't buy into the 'kill the bacteria, yeast, fungal'

theory.Â As an engineer in the past, we use micro-organisms to digest toxins in

the land.Â Â Today, there is mounting evidence of the use of parasites, bacteria

etc...to cure cancer, gut problems etc... Weinstock treated 29 patients with

theÂ parasite trichinosis from pigs and cured 90% of their IBS in 6 days.Â

Today

we are actually too cleane and everyone is on the 'cleansing' bandwagon.Â If

you

google verotoxin you will find that researchers are using the 'fecal matter' of

E-coli to treat cancer with impecable results.Â Â

I'm certain what ever you do will bring you the results, positive or negative,

that you require for your journey.

Enjoy the ride,

Dam

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From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:37:24 AM

Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

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Laurie, Joan, Nick, and Dan,

You comments are appreciated.

You see, I started thinking of this cleanse because what I learned from the

Gerson therapy. The folks on the therapy have a castor oil treatment that

involves 2 TB of castor oil orally. You'd do this every two days. They support

nutrition with several juices per day and detox with enemas. It sounds violent,

but I decided to do a few. My problems are a severe gut dysbiosis (with unwanted

bacteria and yeast), helped by a suppressed immune system caused by mercury. I

noticed that every time I did the treatment with castor oil, I'd feel better.

Eventually I concluded that it was because of the antibacterial effects of the

castor oil. Even with the diarrhea caused by the castor oil, the fact that lots

of bacteria went away benefited my body. This is why I've been considering that

something like this, although a bit rough, may have some stronger and lasting

effect.

I know that the castor oil is more antibacterial than coconut oil and this is

why I was thinking whether there is something else I should add, like garlic,

uva ursi, etc.

Thanks again folks.

.

> >

> > Hello folks,

> >

> > Very new to your forum. I am trying to understand whether a 3 to 7 day

>coconut

>

> >detox diet is for me. I am sure you all know about it; 10-14 TB of coconut

oil

>

> >during the day, lemon water, no food. Iam thinking on this to treat bad gut

> >dysbiosis and candida.

> >

> > Do you have any thoughts/recommendations/concerns/etc about it?

Specifically,

>

> >I'd like to know if I can add some antiparasitic herbs like uva ursi, olive

> >leaf, etc.

> >

> > Your comments will be much appreciated.

> >

> > .

> >

>

November 27, 2010

For me I think that (a coconut oil fast) would create the perfect intestinal

storm.... the already less than optimal/life-enhancing " bugs " have dominance

over the intestine now and then you beat them all back (even what " good "

bacteria you have) and then who takes over????

One of the missing pieces to this plan is repletion of " beneficial " bacteria.

At least supplement with a quality probiotic along with inulin to feed them.

I went along with the regular medical world (I had dysbiosis and

yeast--undiagnosed) and essentially did what you are planning to do with the

preps for endoscopy and coloscopy. After each procedure I got sicker....even

pointing this out to the gastro....his dismissive fianl comment was, " It's

functional. " and that left me further weakened and unable to work....still with

endless diarrhea and no hope for a solution.

One stool test months later showed a rare yeast....diet, diflucan and

supplements (not coconut oil) made a huge difference. Make sure you are not

digging you sickhole deeper....what you have is probably functional (esp. if

medical paths have been followed) and naturopaths are trained to deal with

functional issues.

Food sensitivities need to be determined as well as many other factors.

Once one has had severe dysbiosis, lifestyle changes are a must to stay well.

Joan

Part of me actually agrees with you Dan (Dam was a typo, right? or ar you

cursing me know? ha, ha. I am only joking). I see it as a balance that

allows nutrients to be absorved, others to be manufactured, others to be

eliminated. This is why I am not looking into pharma drugs. I am going to do

one day of the coconut, and see what happens. I'll report back to this forum in

case somebody is curious.

.

>

> ,Â For the record, I don't buy into the 'kill the bacteria, yeast,

fungal'

> theory.Â As an engineer in the past, we use micro-organisms to digest toxins

in

> the land.Â Â Today, there is mounting evidence of the use of parasites,

bacteria

> etc...to cure cancer, gut problems etc... Weinstock treated 29 patients

with

> theÂ parasite trichinosis from pigs and cured 90% of their IBS in 6 days.Â

Today

> we are actually too cleane and everyone is on the 'cleansing' bandwagon.Â If

you

> google verotoxin you will find that researchers are using the 'fecal matter'

of

> E-coli to treat cancer with impecable results.Â Â

>

> I'm certain what ever you do will bring you the results, positive or negative,

> that you require for your journey.

>

> Enjoy the ride,

>

> Dam

>

> ________________________________

> From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:37:24 AM

> Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

>

> Â

> Laurie, Joan, Nick, and Dan,

>

> You comments are appreciated.

>

November 27, 2010

....and then there's the life preserving feature of candida that allows it to

mutate into its hyphae stage and grow roots into your intestinal wall.....and

voila...you have leaky gut...now that's a fun syndrome to recover from!

Joan

For me I think that (a coconut oil fast) would create the perfect intestinal

storm.... the already less than optimal/life-enhancing " bugs " have dominance

over the intestine now and then you beat them all back (even what " good "

bacteria you have) and then who takes over????

One of the missing pieces to this plan is repletion of " beneficial " bacteria.

At least supplement with a quality probiotic along with inulin to feed them.

I went along with the regular medical world (I had dysbiosis and

yeast--undiagnosed) and essentially did what you are planning to do with the

preps for endoscopy and coloscopy. After each procedure I got sicker....even

pointing this out to the gastro....his dismissive fianl comment was, " It's

functional. " and that left me further weakened and unable to work....still with

endless diarrhea and no hope for a solution.

One stool test months later showed a rare yeast....diet, diflucan and

supplements (not coconut oil) made a huge difference. Make sure you are not

digging you sickhole deeper....what you have is probably functional (esp. if

medical paths have been followed) and naturopaths are trained to deal with

functional issues.

Food sensitivities need to be determined as well as many other factors.

Once one has had severe dysbiosis, lifestyle changes are a must to stay well.

Joan

Part of me actually agrees with you Dan (Dam was a typo, right? or ar you

cursing me know? ha, ha. I am only joking). I see it as a balance that

allows nutrients to be absorved, others to be manufactured, others to be

eliminated. This is why I am not looking into pharma drugs. I am going to do

one day of the coconut, and see what happens. I'll report back to this forum in

case somebody is curious.

.

>

> ,Â For the record, I don't buy into the 'kill the bacteria, yeast,

fungal'

> theory.Â As an engineer in the past, we use micro-organisms to digest toxins

in

> the land.Â Â Today, there is mounting evidence of the use of parasites,

bacteria

> etc...to cure cancer, gut problems etc... Weinstock treated 29 patients

with

> theÂ parasite trichinosis from pigs and cured 90% of their IBS in 6 days.Â

Today

> we are actually too cleane and everyone is on the 'cleansing' bandwagon.Â If

you

> google verotoxin you will find that researchers are using the 'fecal matter'

of

> E-coli to treat cancer with impecable results.Â Â

>

> I'm certain what ever you do will bring you the results, positive or negative,

> that you require for your journey.

>

> Enjoy the ride,

>

> Dam

>

> ________________________________

> From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:37:24 AM

> Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

>

> Â

> Laurie, Joan, Nick, and Dan,

>

> You comments are appreciated.

>

November 27, 2010

I had geotrichosis from eating homemade monzerella cheese from the farmer's

market. Years later I found out that a number of people got sick....most of

them recovered fairly quickly except one child and me. My diet was actually

quite a good one, but I had had a round of antibiotics and then had the cheese

and the rest is history....for me the perfect storm and combination of events.

By the time I discovered a naturopath, I had severe leaky gut, dysbiosis, and

nutritional deficiencies along with acquired syndromes. Regular medicine did

nothing for me...not even diagnosing the geotrichium (and I got tested for many

things)....funny how a simple stool culture with the alternative folks can give

so much valuable info.

I have made great gains, but remain extremely sensitive to any dairy in any

form. Five years ago undenatured whey protein worked really well for me, but

now it is an instant migrane, rash, and diarrhea.

Life is good if I remain dairy free along with a good diet with low sugar, lots

of greens, no nitrates or nitrites or preservatives, some key supplements

including digestive enzymes.

I wish you luck with your plan.

Joan

Joan,

I am in agreement with you. I have dome so many life style changes. I am in

this race for quite some time already and have done many many things and seen

many folks. Somethings good, some not at all. Still in the race. After the

coconut thing, I plant to continue a 4 day rotational program that I had started

a couple of weeks ago with really good anti-fungals, that seemed promising and

supplement with beneficial bacteria. I know that it is a step back in a way,

but I am hoping that it helps clean the gut, so that the program and probiotics

can work better. May I ask which yeast did you have?

I will add probiotics during the detox. I had been thinking about that already

and your suggestion makes perfect sense.

Thanks Joan for your comments.

.

>

> >

>

> > ,Â For the record, I don't buy into the 'kill the bacteria, yeast,

fungal'

>

> > theory.Â As an engineer in the past, we use micro-organisms to digest

toxins in

>

> > the land.Â Â Today, there is mounting evidence of the use of parasites,

bacteria

>

> > etc...to cure cancer, gut problems etc... Weinstock treated 29 patients

with

>

> > theÂ parasite trichinosis from pigs and cured 90% of their IBS in 6 days.Â

Today

>

> > we are actually too cleane and everyone is on the 'cleansing' bandwagon.Â

If you

>

> > google verotoxin you will find that researchers are using the 'fecal matter'

of

>

> > E-coli to treat cancer with impecable results.Â Â

>

> >

>

> > I'm certain what ever you do will bring you the results, positive or

negative,

>

> > that you require for your journey.

>

> >

>

> > Enjoy the ride,

>

> >

>

> > Dam

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > ________________________________

>

> > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@>

>

> > Coconut Oil

>

> > Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:37:24 AM

>

> > Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

>

> >

>

> > Â

>

> > Laurie, Joan, Nick, and Dan,

>

> >

>

> > You comments are appreciated.

>

> >

>

November 27, 2010

,

So, the only thing you have consumed today is 10 TBs of VCO?

How many days are you planning on doing the detox?

Thanks for keeping us posted.

Theta

Joan,

I much appreciate your thoughts. You have obviously thought quite a lot about

the gut and its health. I am glad that things look much better today for you.

The test you mention. Is that the regular cultured 2-3 week stool test, or is

that something different?

I have heard people overcome dairy intolerance using kefir and kefir grains. I

am giving it to you at cost. I know that each case is different. Dom kefir's

site (that's how you can find it) talks about it.

I'll report back. Today after 10 TBs and 12 hrs in, I am still surviving. Some

nausea, cold body and that's thankfully it.

November 27, 2010

I had Genova Diagnostics Comprehensive Stool Analysis....so helpful....they even

gave three different methods of treatment from most " natural " to most effective

drug treatment and suggestions in between.

Thank you for the offer of kefir and or grains at cost, but I avoid kefir in all

forms. Kefir has uncontrolled yeasts and yeast is another one of my

sensitivities. I make a flat, non-yeasted bread with spelt and have made some

positive progress with adding gluten into my diet with no ill effects.

I use probiotics and have good result with feeding them inulin. I also make

coconut yogurt using probiotics. I have made good gains healthwise with this

method. I now can tolerate So Delicious coconut yogurt as it contains S.

Thermophilus, L. Bulgaricus, LRhamnosus, L. Acidophilous, Bif. Bifidum, and Bif.

Animalis.

In the last four years I have made four attempts to add some perceived " safe "

form of dairy back into my meal plan with no positive results so I have resigned

myself to life without it. Hidden dairy causes me great digestive distress. My

detox system remains compromised from its gargantuan efforts to rid my body of

the yeast toxins so I eat with care. At this point I believe it is not just

lactose that is the issue, but casein (the protein) that is causing problems.

Thank you again for the offer,

Joan

Coconut Oil

From: mromargarcia@...

Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 01:39:12 +0000

Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

Joan,

I much appreciate your thoughts. You have obviously thought quite a lot about

the gut and its health. I am glad that things look much better today for you.

The test you mention. Is that the regular cultured 2-3 week stool test, or is

that something different?

I have heard people overcome dairy intolerance using kefir and kefir grains. I

am giving it to you at cost. I know that each case is different. Dom kefir's

site (that's how you can find it) talks about it.

I'll report back. Today after 10 TBs and 12 hrs in, I am still surviving. Some

nausea, cold body and that's thankfully it.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ,Â For the record, I don't buy into the 'kill the bacteria, yeast,

fungal'

>

> >

>

> > > theory.Â As an engineer in the past, we use micro-organisms to digest

toxins in

>

> >

>

> > > the land.Â Â Today, there is mounting evidence of the use of parasites,

bacteria

>

> >

>

> > > etc...to cure cancer, gut problems etc... Weinstock treated 29

patients with

>

> >

>

> > > theÂ parasite trichinosis from pigs and cured 90% of their IBS in 6 days.Â

Today

>

> >

>

> > > we are actually too cleane and everyone is on the 'cleansing' bandwagon.Â

If you

>

> >

>

> > > google verotoxin you will find that researchers are using the 'fecal

matter' of

>

> >

>

> > > E-coli to treat cancer with impecable results.Â Â

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > I'm certain what ever you do will bring you the results, positive or

negative,

>

> >

>

> > > that you require for your journey.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Enjoy the ride,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Dam

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > ________________________________

>

> >

>

> > > From: mromargarcia <mromargarcia@>

>

> >

>

> > > Coconut Oil

>

> >

>

> > > Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 11:37:24 AM

>

> >

>

> > > Subject: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > Â

>

> >

>

> > > Laurie, Joan, Nick, and Dan,

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> > > You comments are appreciated.

>

> >

>

> > >

>

> >

>

> >

November 28, 2010

Pasturized Dairy? Or Raw Dairy? Two totally different foods. With gut issues

one must ferment the dairy and always start with raw patured butter with a small

amount of raw unheated honey. Butter feeds, lubricates, and rebuilds mucus

membranes. Raw cultured butter milk is also a boon to the gut.

Lassi is an Ayurvedic beverage with 1/2 fermented milk/kefir or yogurt with 1/2

water blended for 3-4 minutes on low. Add in fresh ginger, cinamon, cardimon,

cumin, fresh black pepper, and a few grains of sea salt ( I don't use salts so I

use the brine of shell fish or celery juice). Some people can only drink the

liquid whey from making cottage cheese by letting raw milk sit in a cabinet

until the curds and whey separate. Then strain through a hemp sprouting bag or

organic non-bleached muslin fabric over night.

You will require something to adsorb/absorb the toxins in your intestines. 1

sugar cube peice of Raw unsalted cheese every 30minutes with 1tsp of raw butter

or the coconut oil works and so would an intestinal fiber such as Garden of Life

Detoxification Fiber or Health Forces Intestinal Drawing Formula. Have one

morning and evening followed by 2oz of raw applecider vinegar in 8oz of water

and 1T of raw unheated honey. Shake to mix.

Look to recolonize your large intestine with a colon reflorastation kit-

www.myrealhealth.com

And certainly consume fresh raw coconut cream or the virgin fermented coconut

oil.

Dan

Do The CURE

www.dothecure.blogspot.com

www.danhegerich.com

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From: Joan Dwyer <rosegardenstudio@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, November 27, 2010 9:36:05 PM

Subject: RE: Re: 7 day coconut oil detox