Asthma Question

[Guest guest]

Funny Byron, and Duncan -- I knew I'd get a rise from you, as usual...yes, we do

disagree on whole foods vs. isolated/synthetic substances.

And yours is typical bad advice from someone who has no knowledge of algae.

Which brand did you use? Some of the tertiary breakdowns of chlorophyll are

quite toxic (in some brands, depending on the how high the heat used to

process), and some people are especially sensitive to degraded chlorophyll - so

a lot depends on the brand you buy. You need to research before you buy.

Allergies/asthma isn't the issue with algae, as there are no known allergens.

Cleansing could be an issue though. Most people are not used to such a powerful

food! Such a reaction undoubtedly points to some digestive needs that should be

addressed by enzymes and probiotics first. Did you do that before taking the

algae?

Carol

>

> This is typical of the bad advice you will get from a nutritionist that doesnt

have Asthma....It was Algae that set off some of my first asthma attacks.

[Guest guest]

Any idea how much your child weighs in kilograms?

" Animal data indicates signs of toxicity can occur with ingestion of

0.5 mg/kg (20,000 IU/kg ) "

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/vitaminDToxicity.shtml

Cannell MD

Executive Director

Vitamin D Council

2003.09.05 updated 2009.06.20

Cannell's biography here:

http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/cannellBiography.shtml

A while back,I checked into vitamin D3 toxicity. I have no links

handy but I learned that 50,000 IU per day for an adult (usually

meaning someone who weighs 180 pounds) should not be taken for more

than a week at a time, but 25,000 IU was a safe daily dose. I took

25,000 IU per day all last winter with no negative side effects.

Alobar

On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:20 AM, julia lowers. <cocheesie420@...> wrote:

> i have an 18 month old and have been giving him 1000 d3 for a while every day.

 he has been sick only one time.  does anyone know if this is an appropriate

dose?  the rda is ridiculous, but i dont wanna overdo it.  thanks!

[Guest guest]

Duncan,

Doesn't dairy cause more mucous? Wouldn't more mucous aggravate asthma, runny

nose, nasal drip?

> > >

> > > DIET RELATED TIPS TO HELP NUTRITIONALLY WITH ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA and COPD

> > >

> > > • The diet should consist of 50 percent raw organically grown foods (start

by steaming lightly or juicing, especially if you are not used to eating raw

foods). Avoid foods that cause excess mucus to be formed in the gastrointestinal

tracts, lungs, sinuses, and nasal cavity. Foods that lead to the formation of

mucus are meats, eggs, dairy products, processed foods, tobacco, junk foods, and

white flour products (pasta, white rice and white breads).

> > >

> > > • Consume foods that require less chewing. When experiencing chronic lung

disease a person may have difficulty breathing while chewing. Avoid gas-forming

foods such as lentils (beans) and cabbage. These foods cause abdominal

distention and interfere with breathing. Do not eat a typical American

breakfast. Instead sip hot liquids to help clear the mucus. I like a specific

drink made from hot water (not boiling, just hot enough to drink but not hot

enough to deactivate the enzymes of the drink ingredients), some fresh lemon or

lime and some molasses and organic raw honey. It's a warm sweet and sour drink.

Excellent way to start the day. After an hour when you become hungry follow the

hot drink by eating low sugar fruits like apples (organically grown), pears,

oranges, berries and plums.

> > >

> > > Apples contain well-recognized medicinal and nutritional ingredients that

offer profound benefit in protecting the health of, and optimizing lung function

(Nick, p.142). A long-term study between 1979 and 1983 " found that lung function

was linearly associated with dietary apple intake...The researchers found...that

eating five or more apples a week was linked to slightly better lung function.

The lung capacity in those individuals who ate apples was 138 millilitres

higher, as compared to those who did not eat apples " (p.143).

> > >

> > > • Chlorophyll is very important. " Chlorophyll is the sun nutrient which is

the basis for all plant life activity; the green blood of plants becomes the red

blood of animals and humans. " (Alive and Well, June 1990). Since its molecular

structure is very similar to hemoglobin in human blood, chlorophyll in green

foods can help strengthen the immune system, support healthy blood and

circulation, protect lung tissue, as well as help to maintain proper operation

of the intestinal tract.

> > >

> > > The highest concentration of chlorophyll of any food is found in organic

blue green algae harvested wild from Upper Klamath Lake, Oregon -

http://tinyurl.com/g1iz and http://tinyurl.com/iw4k.

> > >

> > > Chlorophyll content per 10 grams:

> > > Wild blue green algae from Upper Klamath Lake - 300 mg

> > > Spirulina - 115 mg

> > > Chlorella - 280 mg

> > > Barley Grass -149 mg

> > > Wheat Grass -55 mg

> > >

> > > ( " Simply The Best " , 1992, p. 3).

> > >

> > > • Black cumin seeds are very well known in folk remedies in the Middle

East. Traditionally, black cumin seed has been used for a variety of ailments

including asthma, bronchitis and ailments of the respiratory tract. Generally,

the seeds are added to food or ground and mixed with raw honey. The primary

active components of black cumin seeds are certain oils that reduce the release

of histamine. Histamine often causes allergic reactions and is associated with

respiratory conditions such as bronchial asthma (Nutrition Science News, Jan.

2001, p.28). You can purchase black cumin seeds from Middle Eastern or Indian

grocery stores.

> > >

> > > • Coenzyme Q10 is a very powerful antioxidant needed to protect the lungs.

Choose a formula where CoQ10 is micro-blended with organic flax seed oil and

wild-crafted blue green algae - http://tinyurl.com/f1f7.

> > >

> > > • Make sure you are taking enzymes with meals to digest your meals

thoroughly. Make sure your enzyme blend is mixed with a whole food. Enzymes need

nutrient co-factors in order to function properly, so these enzymes are

micro-blended with a mineral-rich whole food which supplies those needed

co-factors - http://tinyurl.com/mkwo. Also take acidophilus

(http://tinyurl.com/24ajq) and bifidus (http://tinyurl.com/26rur) so you can get

rid of excess mucus and reduce gas and distention.

> > >

> > > • In addition to taking enzymes with your meals to digest your cooked

foods, use your enzymes in between meals to reduce excess mucus and

inflammation.

> > >

> > > " Systemic enzyme therapy is used to reduce swelling and inflammation.

Enzyme therapy stimulates the immune system, improves circulation, and helps

speed tissue repair by bringing nutrients to the damaged area and removing waste

products....Enzymes stimulate the body's own natural enzymatic processes without

causing the immune system to be suppressed. They increase tissue permeability,

as well as the rate of degradation of inflammatory and toxic products, and

increase the rate of microthrombi breakdown, therefore reducing swelling.

Consequently, they improve the supply of nutrients and oxygen to the tissues and

the removal of the end products of normal metabolism. Therefore, the duration of

the inflammatory process is reduced, ...and the healing process progresses more

quickly ... " (Cichoke, pgs. 384-385).

> > >

> > > • Use castor oil packs on the chest. These packs are so soothing for

emphysema and asthma. Directions for applying castor-oil packs over any area

that has inflammation and discomfort: Buy cold-pressed castor-oil. Choose a

quiet place where you can lie down. To make a castor-oil pack, you will need:

cotton - flannel sheet pieces (four of them) measuring 1 foot by 3 feet, castor

oil, a plastic sheet or plastic bag, a heating pad and a towel. Place the

flannel sheets on top of each other. Pour castor oil into a large bowl (enough

for soaking the sheets). Soak the cloth in it. Squeeze out the excess oil and

lay the saturated cloth over the affected region. Place the plastic over the

cloth. Put the heating pad(low heat) over the plastic. The towel is just in case

you need to wipe any oil. Lie down and relax and leave the castor-oil packs in

place for 30 minutes. Repeat three to seven times per week, for one to two

months. You can store the oil-drenched cloth in a plastic bag between uses. You

don't need to soak the cloth every time. Use the cloth three to four times and

then throw it out and make a new one.

> > >

> > > • Avoid air pollution. Change jobs if necessary because your present

environment may be dirty, dusty, and toxic to inhale. Do not use aerosol

products.

> > >

> > > • Rest and avoid stress. Get plenty of fresh air.

> > >

> > > • Drink at least 8-10 glasses of water daily. Don't drink with meals, just

in between meals (small sips of water).

> > >

> > > • Juicing is very helpful. Use carrot, parsley, celery, kale and different

green leafy vegetables like kale and parsley. Smoothies provide raw ingredients

that have lots of nutrients. Also, use brightly colored fruits such as

blueberries, cherries, mangoes, etc. My favorite machine for making smoothies is

the Vita Mix, because the resulting drink includes the very valuable fiber. It's

an easy and enjoyable way to get your daily servings of fruits and vegetables,

with no messy clean-up. You can get free ground shipping worth $25.00 if you use

this code ~ 06-001715.

> > >

> > > • Take a clove or two of fresh organic garlic when you go to sleep at

night. Cut it in small pieces and swallow it with a glass of water. Garlic is a

natural antibiotic to help prevent infection. Garlic is a strong medicinal food.

Therefore, make sure you don't take raw garlic more than 3 weeks in a row.

> > >

> > > • A folk remedy for asthma is ginger. Make a tea of freshly grated ginger

root. Even just chewing a small part of the root can work literal wonders.

> > >

> > > • Celery seeds are believed to be a tonic for asthma. An infusion of the

seeds in water in the ratio 1:20 is thought to calm the nerves and relief

asthmatic wheezing.

> > >

> > > • A fast on cayenne powder mixed with fresh lemon juice and organic maple

syrup should help with clearing inflammation in lungs. Drink 8 to 12 glasses of

the above ingredients mixed with water throughout the day. Continue this fast

for up to 20 days. I'm told by people who have done this fast that emphysema or

asthma would clear up.

> > >

> > > References:

> > >

> > > Cichoke, . (1994). Enzymes and Enzyme Therapy. New Canaan,

Connecticut: Keats publishing, Inc.

> > >

> > > Nick, . (June 2004). " Whole Foods Bestow Lung Cancer Protection and

Improve Lung Function " . Townsend Letter for Doctors and patients. pgs. 142-144.

> > >

> > > Check http://www.bluegreensolutions.com, and click on " Test Drive Your New

Body " for a 15 minute video of how health works.

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

sure does for me

Even whey unfortunately.

Joan

Duncan,

Doesn't dairy cause more mucous? Wouldn't more mucous aggravate asthma, runny

nose, nasal drip?

[Guest guest]

*5,000 iu/ day maintenance dose is just fine for people in temperate

regions. At onset of a cold, pour it on though... *

On 11/4/2010 10:20 AM, julia lowers. wrote:

>

> i have an 18 month old and have been giving him 1000 d3 for a while

> every day. he has been sick only one time. does anyone know if this is

> an appropriate dose? the rda is ridiculous, but i dont wanna overdo

> it. thanks!

> Re: Re: Asthma Question

>

> Hi Alobar:

>

> I agree with your conclusions (as I usually do).

>

> I find it very interesting that my friends are so reluctant to take D3

> when it is so simple and effective against colds, even colds that have

> already gotten started. When my wife and I first started taking D3,

> we found that even midstream, taking 5000 iu of D3 several times a day

> would wipe out all symptoms except the nose would still run for a day or

> so.

>

> Also, making magnesium oil is a piece of cake and it is very

> inexpensive. Beyond that, I find it actually feels very good... sorta

> like after shave for the body once you get used to it.

>

> Finally, I agree on your concerns with taking hormones even though I

> once had a friend in the Beck'n'stuff group who actually injected

> testosterone with very good results... pretty radical I thought.

>

> Cheers,

> Jim

>

> On 11/3/2010 2:27 PM, Alobar wrote:

> >

> > Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

> > home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a

>

>

[Guest guest]

*Why not take both? I like Now brand 5000 iu caps.*

On 11/4/2010 12:22 AM, yg wrote:

> Jim / Alobar,

>

> What type of D3 are you taking? Liquid, drops or tablets?

>

> I recently caught a cold that I was able to mitigate with high does

> vit-c. Next time I'll try D3. I currently take 3000 ui of D3 tablets but I

> recently read that D3 isn't readily absorbed by the body in tablet form

> unless taken with some sort of oil like VCO as a solvent.

>

> I'm curious if you take drops or oil form of D3 or tablets?

>

> yg

>

> On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Jim<huuman60@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Hi Alobar:

>>

>> I agree with your conclusions (as I usually do).

>>

>> I find it very interesting that my friends are so reluctant to take D3

>> when it is so simple and effective against colds, even colds that have

>> already gotten started. When my wife and I first started taking D3,

>> we found that even midstream, taking 5000 iu of D3 several times a day

>> would wipe out all symptoms except the nose would still run for a day or

>> so.

>>

>> Also, making magnesium oil is a piece of cake and it is very

>> inexpensive. Beyond that, I find it actually feels very good... sorta

>> like after shave for the body once you get used to it.

>>

>> Finally, I agree on your concerns with taking hormones even though I

>> once had a friend in the Beck'n'stuff group who actually injected

>> testosterone with very good results... pretty radical I thought.

>>

>> Cheers,

>> Jim

>>

>>

>> On 11/3/2010 2:27 PM, Alobar wrote:

>>> Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

>>> home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a saturead solution and

>>> wiped on with a washcloth.

>>>

>>> My vitamin D levels were at 73 a year ago. Probably higher now. I

>>> no longer gets colds or flu.

>>>

>>> I would be cautious about any thyroid hormones, in whatever form. I

>>> am OK with taking hormone pre-cursors but I stay away from taking

>>> individual hormones other than melatonin and vitamin D3.

>>>

>>> Alobar

>>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Jim, here's a google on allergic symptoms to beef proteins:

<http://tinyurl.com/bovine-allergy>

EHow says:

Symptoms of a beef allergy are very similar to symptoms of other types of

allergies and can manifest themselves in different systems of the body. For mild

symptoms, a layman may be able to narrow the allergy down to beef. But in the

case of severe symptoms, such as an anaphylactic reaction, medical attention is

required.

Respiratory Symptoms

•Possible respiratory-related symptoms include runny nose, coughing and asthma.

Labored breathing, wheezing and sneezing may also occur.

Hives and Swelling

•The lips, tongue and throat may swell, tingle and itch to the point where

swallowing may be difficult.

Digestive Symptoms

•Digestive system symptoms may include diarrhea or constipation, abdominal pain

and vomiting.

Fatigue

•A beef allergy may cause fatigue or depression.

Disturbed Sleep

•Disturbed sleep and insomnia may also be symptoms of a beef allergy.

Anaphylaxis

•Anaphylaxis is a potentially life-threatening allergic reaction. Its symptoms

include the sudden onset of swelling in the face, throat or mouth, a sudden drop

in blood pressure and difficulty breathing.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Hi Duncan:

>

> What are some of the usual symptoms of an allergic reaction to whey?

>

> Regards,

> Jim

>

[Guest guest]

Please don't lump me in with your vague comments Carol. If you have a point to

make on my post, please just make it. I made mine about glutathione's role in

asthma and other lung issues, and supplied references. Since algae doesn't

contain glutathione precursors it can not produce the benefits listed in

glutathione research:

http://tinyurl.com/glutathione-references

Calling Byron a liar for thinking algae caused his allergic reaction is not

discussion designed to investigate the reason. Maybe he's sensitive to the

microcystins that are continuously being monitored in Klamath lake and the

surrounding watershed.

This offical news release, which describes some toxic reactions from contacting

the toxin in water, even banned swimming in tainted lakes in the region in 2009.

What lot was your bottle from Doug? They had serious problems with this issue a

few years ago, the problem has not been resolved, and the product is

continuously monitored today for the same toxin.

http://www.osgov.com/images/algae/Duck%20Lake%20Press%20Release.pdf

Carol, isolated substances should be grouped separately from synthetic based on

individual merit. The nondistinction into the same vilified " black box " when

compared to whole foods is a notmilk/vegan agenda attempt to confuse or dumb

down. If you're not designing to confuse us with it, then maybe you have been

confused BY it? One distinction is that many of our best supplements must be

concentrated from whole foods in order to provide the benefit that you can't

obtain with the whole food itself.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Funny Byron, and Duncan -- I knew I'd get a rise from you, as usual...yes, we

do disagree on whole foods vs. isolated/synthetic substances.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ; no, whey doesn't necessarily cause mucous. I get a little mucousy from

homogenised milk and cheese but I don't seem to from whey even though the solids

content is about 100 times higher in a whey drink than in milk.

According to the PDR for prescription drugs, a whey isolate (Immunocal) is well

tolerated even by severely milk sensitive individuals. A risk:benefit analysis

to compare your personal reaction with the huge and well-detailed benefits of

such an anti-aging tool will show you and most others that using it is better

than not using it, even if you do make more mucous.

Unless you are allergic to bovine proteins, undenatured whey should figure

prominently in both your cure and your subsequent health maintenance/anti-aging

program. In fact you can't do a strong program without attention to glutathione

elevation so you'll want to do it however you can.

all good,

Duncan

>

>

> Duncan,

>

> Doesn't dairy cause more mucous? Wouldn't more mucous aggravate asthma, runny

nose, nasal drip?

>

>