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i have horrible asthma, i just take an inhaler and use if needed, but mostly

i will remember to use before i go exercise and usually i wont have any

problems. shawna.

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  • 23 years later...

I think I might have excersice-induced asthma, think I've been having it for a

year or so. . I just e-mailed my family doctor. . so we'll see

i have horrible asthma, i just take an inhaler and use if needed, but mostly

i will remember to use before i go exercise and usually i wont have any

problems. shawna.

asthma question

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  • 1 year later...

I've taken steroids by both inhaler and by pill with no problems. For

the pills I'd be sure to use LOTS of liquids to dilute them quickly.

If in doubt, call your band doctor. No, I " m not a doctor. Just

telling my experience.

Monday, November 8, 2004, 1:48:02 PM, you wrote:

Ms°> Ok all you experienced bandsters, I need a little help. I developed a cold

Ms°> and it's triggered my asthma. It's getting to be pretty severe and I know

i

Ms°> need steroids. Am I able to take prednisone? I asked my husband (a family

Ms°> practice doctor, but no experience with banding) if there were other ways

of

Ms°> getting the steroids other than a pill and he said I could get shots twice

a

Ms°> day or use it with a nebulizer. Would that be ok to do. Any help would be

Ms°> greatly appreciated

Dan Lester, Boise, ID honu@... www.mylapband.tk

Dr. Ortiz, Tijuana, 4/28/03

323/209/199 Age 61 Fair is whatever God decides to do.

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The inhaled steroids are far safer for the band, and far safer for

your whole body, as they do not enter the bloodstream but stay mostly

in the lungs that need them.

There are wonderful new inhaled steroids (Advair is one) that work

wonders when needed, with few side-effects.

If essential, you can take oral steroids for a short time (they would

only be given for a short time anyway) with great care to wash them

completely through your pouch. DON'T take them with a lot of food,

because that will make them sit in your pouch even longer.

If it were me, i would take the tablet and break it in 4 pieces, take

each with a tsp of yougurt followed by 1/2 glass of fluid, then a

full glass after they are all taken.

Be careful of reflux, as that can trigger asthma too. Hope you feel

better soon - asthma is miserable stuff. Your doc may want you on

preventaive stuff for the winter. - Sandy R

> Ok all you experienced bandsters, I need a little help. I

developed a cold

> and it's triggered my asthma. It's getting to be pretty severe and

I know i

> need steroids. Am I able to take prednisone? I asked my husband

(a family

> practice doctor, but no experience with banding) if there were

other ways of

> getting the steroids other than a pill and he said I could get

shots twice a

> day or use it with a nebulizer. Would that be ok to do. Any help

would be

> greatly appreciated

>

> 07/15/04

> 204/166/135

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  • 5 years later...

Hello:

Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that makes

you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the doctor that

it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night. Daytime is

not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions would

appreciated.

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Do you live with smokers?

Alobar

On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Atwood <naturespharma@...> wrote:

> Hello:

> Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that

makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the

doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night.

Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions

would appreciated.

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maybe there is something in your room that you are allergic to or that is

causing an inflammatory response. does it still happen when you sleep in

another area of the house? have you tried elevating you head with a few extra

pillows when you sleep? do you have any cardiac issues?

Asthma Question

Hello:

Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that makes

you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the doctor that

it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night. Daytime is

not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions would

appreciated.

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oh and i cant believe the doctor told you that its not a good idea to use

albuterol daily if he prescribed it to you! i have very severe asthma, have had

it all my life... i use it several times a day... which is probably not ideal,

but it beats suffocating and the effects of actually suffocating on the rest of

your body. six in one hand, half a dozen on the other. the nsc company makes

an awesome beta glucan... it has brought my asthma down a lot...

Re: Asthma Question

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> Hello:

> Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that

makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the

doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night.

Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions

would appreciated.

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There is nothing wrong with using your alburterol every day but more than 2

puffs at a time it becomes less effective. Albuterol has been around for 30

years at least with little or no side effects. They can not say that about the

Steriods they are trying to push on everyone now.

Start by changing your pillow,if its down or foam you could be allergic to it.

Also wash your hair before you go to bed to get rid of any thing. Find an

allergic cover for the pillow and maybe even your mattress,dust mites are a

common allergy. Asthma is a inflammatory disease so make sure you are getting a

lot of EFA's and where is your Vit D levels? get them up to 70 or 80. You may

also need a air purifier in you bed room. hope this helps

Byron

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Thank you very much for the response. I'm sincerely grateful and will look into

the chlorophyll.

Atwood

From: algaelady1 <carol@...>

Subject: Re: Asthma Question

DIET RELATED TIPS TO HELP NUTRITIONALLY WITH ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA and COPD

• The diet should consist of 50 percent raw organically grown foods (start by

steaming lightly or juicing, especially if you are not used to eating raw

foods). Avoid foods that cause excess mucus to be formed in the gastrointestinal

tracts, lungs, sinuses, and nasal cavity. Foods that lead to the formation of

mucus are meats, eggs, dairy products, processed foods, tobacco, junk foods, and

white flour products (pasta, white rice and white breads).

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> Hello:

> Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that

makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the

doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night.

Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions

would appreciated.

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> ;

There is nothing wrong with using your alburterol every day but more than 2

puffs at a time it becomes less effective. Albuterol has been around for 30

years at least with little or no side effects. They can not say that about the

Steriods they are trying to push on everyone now.

Start by changing your pillow,if its down or foam you could be allergic to it.

Also wash your hair before you go to bed to get rid of any thing. Find an

allergic cover for the pillow and maybe even your mattress,dust mites are a

common allergy. Asthma is a inflammatory disease so make sure you are getting a

lot of EFA's and where is your Vit D levels? get them up to 70 or 80. You may

also need a air purifier in you bed room. hope this helps

Byron

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Wow Byron - THANKS SO MUCH...I thought that possibly the albuterol was

OK, as I've not had any problems with it. I don't want and do feel that

I'm so bad that I need to be on steriods. Hopefully the doctor will

agree to continue giving me the prescripton for it. I'm with Kaiser and

she said she may not be able to refill it for too much longer and

wanted me take Singular - Singular is $35.00, Albuterol is $9.00!! - I

may need to fight this one.

Gratefully -

From: Byron <byron.jacobson@...>

Subject: Re: Asthma Question

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> ;

    There is nothing wrong with using your alburterol every day but more than 2

puffs at a time it becomes less effective. Albuterol has been around for 30

years at least with little or no side effects. They can not say that about the

Steriods they are trying to push on everyone now.

Start by changing your pillow,if its down or foam you could be allergic to it.

Also wash your hair before you go to bed to get rid of any thing. Find an

allergic cover for the pillow and maybe even your mattress,dust mites are a

common allergy. Asthma is a inflammatory disease so make sure you are getting a

lot of EFA's and where is your Vit D levels? get them up to 70 or 80. You may

also need a air purifier in you bed room. hope this helps

Byron

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, in asthma and other lung inflammation conditions the lung tissue is under

" oxidative stress " , and depleted of the master antioxidant glutathione. The

depletion results in irritation, inflammation, airway restriction and increased

mucous production; glutathione is available by prescription inhaler for the

purpose of reducing this irritation. Oxidative stress is actually systemic so it

makes sense to elevate it systemically because its an anti-aging tool and the

seat of ones immune response anyway. You'd elevate glutathione systemically with

undenatured whey and selenium. The approach can work on COPD as well.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Hello:

> Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night asthma that

makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but I'm told by the

doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two or three times a night.

Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty uncomfortable. Any suggestions

would appreciated.

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This is typical of the bad advice you will get from a nutritionist that doesnt

have Asthma. Dont stop eating meat and eggs, but it is a good idea to see if you

are allergic to Dairy though because this could be a big problem. Avoid the junk

food but hopefully if your on this forum you already have a good diet. The

chewing bit is far fetched,dont bother with the warm sweet liquids ineffective

at best and may contribute to the oxidative stress. Apples are highly allergic

and full of chemicals, only organic. Chlorophyll ? again ineffective at best

looks great on paper doesnt work and again you maybe allergic to it. It was

Algae that set off some of my first asthma attacks. The digestive aids are a

must since it is also the poor digestion of protiens that leads to Asthma thru

leaky Gut. Forget the Castol Oil packs, Most of these folk remedies are too

ineffective and be careful you can be allergic to any of the ingredients. Duncun

is right with the Whey but Be careful you not allergic to it. Good digestion, 2

tbsp of EFA's Curcumin,Vit D.Really get to know what your reacting to.

Byron

>

> DIET RELATED TIPS TO HELP NUTRITIONALLY WITH ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA and COPD

>

> • The diet should consist of 50 percent raw organically grown foods (start by

steaming lightly or juicing, especially if you are not used to eating raw

foods). Avoid foods that cause excess mucus to be formed in the gastrointestinal

tracts, lungs, sinuses, and nasal cavity. Foods that lead to the formation of

mucus are meats, eggs, dairy products, processed foods, tobacco, junk foods, and

white flour products (pasta, white rice and white breads).

>

> • Consume foods that require less chewing. When experiencing chronic lung

disease a person may have difficulty breathing while chewing. Avoid gas-forming

foods such as lentils (beans) and cabbage. These foods cause abdominal

distention and interfere with breathing. Do not eat a typical American

breakfast. Instead sip hot liquids to help clear the mucus. I like a specific

drink made from hot water (not boiling, just hot enough to drink but not hot

enough to deactivate the enzymes of the drink ingredients), some fresh lemon or

lime and some molasses and organic raw honey. It's a warm sweet and sour drink.

Excellent way to start the day. After an hour when you become hungry follow the

hot drink by eating low sugar fruits like apples (organically grown), pears,

oranges, berries and plums.

>

> Apples contain well-recognized medicinal and nutritional ingredients that

offer profound benefit in protecting the health of, and optimizing lung function

(Nick, p.142). A long-term study between 1979 and 1983 " found that lung function

was linearly associated with dietary apple intake...The researchers found...that

eating five or more apples a week was linked to slightly better lung function.

The lung capacity in those individuals who ate apples was 138 millilitres

higher, as compared to those who did not eat apples " (p.143).

>

> • Chlorophyll is very important. " Chlorophyll is the sun nutrient which is the

basis for all plant life activity; the green blood of plants becomes the red

blood of animals and humans. " (Alive and Well, June 1990). Since its molecular

structure is very similar to hemoglobin in human blood, chlorophyll in green

foods can help strengthen the immune system, support healthy blood and

circulation, protect lung tissue, as well as help to maintain proper operation

of the intestinal tract.

>

> The highest concentration of chlorophyll of any food is found in organic blue

green algae harvested wild from Upper Klamath Lake, Oregon -

http://tinyurl.com/g1iz and http://tinyurl.com/iw4k.

>

> Chlorophyll content per 10 grams:

> Wild blue green algae from Upper Klamath Lake - 300 mg

> Spirulina - 115 mg

> Chlorella - 280 mg

> Barley Grass -149 mg

> Wheat Grass -55 mg

>

> ( " Simply The Best " , 1992, p. 3).

>

> • Black cumin seeds are very well known in folk remedies in the Middle East.

Traditionally, black cumin seed has been used for a variety of ailments

including asthma, bronchitis and ailments of the respiratory tract. Generally,

the seeds are added to food or ground and mixed with raw honey. The primary

active components of black cumin seeds are certain oils that reduce the release

of histamine. Histamine often causes allergic reactions and is associated with

respiratory conditions such as bronchial asthma (Nutrition Science News, Jan.

2001, p.28). You can purchase black cumin seeds from Middle Eastern or Indian

grocery stores.

>

> • Coenzyme Q10 is a very powerful antioxidant needed to protect the lungs.

Choose a formula where CoQ10 is micro-blended with organic flax seed oil and

wild-crafted blue green algae - http://tinyurl.com/f1f7.

>

> • Make sure you are taking enzymes with meals to digest your meals thoroughly.

Make sure your enzyme blend is mixed with a whole food. Enzymes need nutrient

co-factors in order to function properly, so these enzymes are micro-blended

with a mineral-rich whole food which supplies those needed co-factors -

http://tinyurl.com/mkwo. Also take acidophilus (http://tinyurl.com/24ajq) and

bifidus (http://tinyurl.com/26rur) so you can get rid of excess mucus and reduce

gas and distention.

>

> • In addition to taking enzymes with your meals to digest your cooked foods,

use your enzymes in between meals to reduce excess mucus and inflammation.

>

> " Systemic enzyme therapy is used to reduce swelling and inflammation. Enzyme

therapy stimulates the immune system, improves circulation, and helps speed

tissue repair by bringing nutrients to the damaged area and removing waste

products....Enzymes stimulate the body's own natural enzymatic processes without

causing the immune system to be suppressed. They increase tissue permeability,

as well as the rate of degradation of inflammatory and toxic products, and

increase the rate of microthrombi breakdown, therefore reducing swelling.

Consequently, they improve the supply of nutrients and oxygen to the tissues and

the removal of the end products of normal metabolism. Therefore, the duration of

the inflammatory process is reduced, ...and the healing process progresses more

quickly ... " (Cichoke, pgs. 384-385).

>

> • Use castor oil packs on the chest. These packs are so soothing for emphysema

and asthma. Directions for applying castor-oil packs over any area that has

inflammation and discomfort: Buy cold-pressed castor-oil. Choose a quiet place

where you can lie down. To make a castor-oil pack, you will need: cotton -

flannel sheet pieces (four of them) measuring 1 foot by 3 feet, castor oil, a

plastic sheet or plastic bag, a heating pad and a towel. Place the flannel

sheets on top of each other. Pour castor oil into a large bowl (enough for

soaking the sheets). Soak the cloth in it. Squeeze out the excess oil and lay

the saturated cloth over the affected region. Place the plastic over the cloth.

Put the heating pad(low heat) over the plastic. The towel is just in case you

need to wipe any oil. Lie down and relax and leave the castor-oil packs in place

for 30 minutes. Repeat three to seven times per week, for one to two months. You

can store the oil-drenched cloth in a plastic bag between uses. You don't need

to soak the cloth every time. Use the cloth three to four times and then throw

it out and make a new one.

>

> • Avoid air pollution. Change jobs if necessary because your present

environment may be dirty, dusty, and toxic to inhale. Do not use aerosol

products.

>

> • Rest and avoid stress. Get plenty of fresh air.

>

> • Drink at least 8-10 glasses of water daily. Don't drink with meals, just in

between meals (small sips of water).

>

> • Juicing is very helpful. Use carrot, parsley, celery, kale and different

green leafy vegetables like kale and parsley. Smoothies provide raw ingredients

that have lots of nutrients. Also, use brightly colored fruits such as

blueberries, cherries, mangoes, etc. My favorite machine for making smoothies is

the Vita Mix, because the resulting drink includes the very valuable fiber. It's

an easy and enjoyable way to get your daily servings of fruits and vegetables,

with no messy clean-up. You can get free ground shipping worth $25.00 if you use

this code ~ 06-001715.

>

> • Take a clove or two of fresh organic garlic when you go to sleep at night.

Cut it in small pieces and swallow it with a glass of water. Garlic is a natural

antibiotic to help prevent infection. Garlic is a strong medicinal food.

Therefore, make sure you don't take raw garlic more than 3 weeks in a row.

>

> • A folk remedy for asthma is ginger. Make a tea of freshly grated ginger

root. Even just chewing a small part of the root can work literal wonders.

>

> • Celery seeds are believed to be a tonic for asthma. An infusion of the seeds

in water in the ratio 1:20 is thought to calm the nerves and relief asthmatic

wheezing.

>

> • A fast on cayenne powder mixed with fresh lemon juice and organic maple

syrup should help with clearing inflammation in lungs. Drink 8 to 12 glasses of

the above ingredients mixed with water throughout the day. Continue this fast

for up to 20 days. I'm told by people who have done this fast that emphysema or

asthma would clear up.

>

> References:

>

> Cichoke, . (1994). Enzymes and Enzyme Therapy. New Canaan, Connecticut:

Keats publishing, Inc.

>

> Nick, . (June 2004). " Whole Foods Bestow Lung Cancer Protection and

Improve Lung Function " . Townsend Letter for Doctors and patients. pgs. 142-144.

>

> Check http://www.bluegreensolutions.com, and click on " Test Drive Your New

Body " for a 15 minute video of how health works.

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I agree with Byron that much of the nutritional advice in the post on asthma

isn't accurate.

The language of avoiding " dairy " is part of the vegan notmilk myth-structure

that fails to recognize that undenatured whey can be the most important

supplement an asthmatic one could take for the glutathione increase that

asthmatics always show a deficiency of, systemically and especially in the lung

tissue.

The google terms I'd use to would be (oxidative OR glutathione asthma OR lung).

Mama cow isn't wrong; the stuff's good for you unless you have a

species-specific allergy to cow protein, then you'd perhaps try goat whey or

cystine pills, plus Amgenex DNA, which turns on gnenetic expression for

glutathoine production. Note that cancer is also reduced by adequate

glutathione.

Many people have got rid of leaky gut essentially by low carbing and drinking

undenatured whey shakes with inulin in them to feed the probiotics. Very little

dietary mod is required but the low carbing, which normally would naturally

include adequate inulin in the traditional staple foods.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > DIET RELATED TIPS TO HELP NUTRITIONALLY WITH ASTHMA, EMPHYSEMA and COPD

> >

> > • The diet should consist of 50 percent raw organically grown foods (start

by steaming lightly or juicing, especially if you are not used to eating raw

foods). Avoid foods that cause excess mucus to be formed in the gastrointestinal

tracts, lungs, sinuses, and nasal cavity. Foods that lead to the formation of

mucus are meats, eggs, dairy products, processed foods, tobacco, junk foods, and

white flour products (pasta, white rice and white breads).

> >

> > • Consume foods that require less chewing. When experiencing chronic lung

disease a person may have difficulty breathing while chewing. Avoid gas-forming

foods such as lentils (beans) and cabbage. These foods cause abdominal

distention and interfere with breathing. Do not eat a typical American

breakfast. Instead sip hot liquids to help clear the mucus. I like a specific

drink made from hot water (not boiling, just hot enough to drink but not hot

enough to deactivate the enzymes of the drink ingredients), some fresh lemon or

lime and some molasses and organic raw honey. It's a warm sweet and sour drink.

Excellent way to start the day. After an hour when you become hungry follow the

hot drink by eating low sugar fruits like apples (organically grown), pears,

oranges, berries and plums.

> >

> > Apples contain well-recognized medicinal and nutritional ingredients that

offer profound benefit in protecting the health of, and optimizing lung function

(Nick, p.142). A long-term study between 1979 and 1983 " found that lung function

was linearly associated with dietary apple intake...The researchers found...that

eating five or more apples a week was linked to slightly better lung function.

The lung capacity in those individuals who ate apples was 138 millilitres

higher, as compared to those who did not eat apples " (p.143).

> >

> > • Chlorophyll is very important. " Chlorophyll is the sun nutrient which is

the basis for all plant life activity; the green blood of plants becomes the red

blood of animals and humans. " (Alive and Well, June 1990). Since its molecular

structure is very similar to hemoglobin in human blood, chlorophyll in green

foods can help strengthen the immune system, support healthy blood and

circulation, protect lung tissue, as well as help to maintain proper operation

of the intestinal tract.

> >

> > The highest concentration of chlorophyll of any food is found in organic

blue green algae harvested wild from Upper Klamath Lake, Oregon -

http://tinyurl.com/g1iz and http://tinyurl.com/iw4k.

> >

> > Chlorophyll content per 10 grams:

> > Wild blue green algae from Upper Klamath Lake - 300 mg

> > Spirulina - 115 mg

> > Chlorella - 280 mg

> > Barley Grass -149 mg

> > Wheat Grass -55 mg

> >

> > ( " Simply The Best " , 1992, p. 3).

> >

> > • Black cumin seeds are very well known in folk remedies in the Middle East.

Traditionally, black cumin seed has been used for a variety of ailments

including asthma, bronchitis and ailments of the respiratory tract. Generally,

the seeds are added to food or ground and mixed with raw honey. The primary

active components of black cumin seeds are certain oils that reduce the release

of histamine. Histamine often causes allergic reactions and is associated with

respiratory conditions such as bronchial asthma (Nutrition Science News, Jan.

2001, p.28). You can purchase black cumin seeds from Middle Eastern or Indian

grocery stores.

> >

> > • Coenzyme Q10 is a very powerful antioxidant needed to protect the lungs.

Choose a formula where CoQ10 is micro-blended with organic flax seed oil and

wild-crafted blue green algae - http://tinyurl.com/f1f7.

> >

> > • Make sure you are taking enzymes with meals to digest your meals

thoroughly. Make sure your enzyme blend is mixed with a whole food. Enzymes need

nutrient co-factors in order to function properly, so these enzymes are

micro-blended with a mineral-rich whole food which supplies those needed

co-factors - http://tinyurl.com/mkwo. Also take acidophilus

(http://tinyurl.com/24ajq) and bifidus (http://tinyurl.com/26rur) so you can get

rid of excess mucus and reduce gas and distention.

> >

> > • In addition to taking enzymes with your meals to digest your cooked foods,

use your enzymes in between meals to reduce excess mucus and inflammation.

> >

> > " Systemic enzyme therapy is used to reduce swelling and inflammation. Enzyme

therapy stimulates the immune system, improves circulation, and helps speed

tissue repair by bringing nutrients to the damaged area and removing waste

products....Enzymes stimulate the body's own natural enzymatic processes without

causing the immune system to be suppressed. They increase tissue permeability,

as well as the rate of degradation of inflammatory and toxic products, and

increase the rate of microthrombi breakdown, therefore reducing swelling.

Consequently, they improve the supply of nutrients and oxygen to the tissues and

the removal of the end products of normal metabolism. Therefore, the duration of

the inflammatory process is reduced, ...and the healing process progresses more

quickly ... " (Cichoke, pgs. 384-385).

> >

> > • Use castor oil packs on the chest. These packs are so soothing for

emphysema and asthma. Directions for applying castor-oil packs over any area

that has inflammation and discomfort: Buy cold-pressed castor-oil. Choose a

quiet place where you can lie down. To make a castor-oil pack, you will need:

cotton - flannel sheet pieces (four of them) measuring 1 foot by 3 feet, castor

oil, a plastic sheet or plastic bag, a heating pad and a towel. Place the

flannel sheets on top of each other. Pour castor oil into a large bowl (enough

for soaking the sheets). Soak the cloth in it. Squeeze out the excess oil and

lay the saturated cloth over the affected region. Place the plastic over the

cloth. Put the heating pad(low heat) over the plastic. The towel is just in case

you need to wipe any oil. Lie down and relax and leave the castor-oil packs in

place for 30 minutes. Repeat three to seven times per week, for one to two

months. You can store the oil-drenched cloth in a plastic bag between uses. You

don't need to soak the cloth every time. Use the cloth three to four times and

then throw it out and make a new one.

> >

> > • Avoid air pollution. Change jobs if necessary because your present

environment may be dirty, dusty, and toxic to inhale. Do not use aerosol

products.

> >

> > • Rest and avoid stress. Get plenty of fresh air.

> >

> > • Drink at least 8-10 glasses of water daily. Don't drink with meals, just

in between meals (small sips of water).

> >

> > • Juicing is very helpful. Use carrot, parsley, celery, kale and different

green leafy vegetables like kale and parsley. Smoothies provide raw ingredients

that have lots of nutrients. Also, use brightly colored fruits such as

blueberries, cherries, mangoes, etc. My favorite machine for making smoothies is

the Vita Mix, because the resulting drink includes the very valuable fiber. It's

an easy and enjoyable way to get your daily servings of fruits and vegetables,

with no messy clean-up. You can get free ground shipping worth $25.00 if you use

this code ~ 06-001715.

> >

> > • Take a clove or two of fresh organic garlic when you go to sleep at night.

Cut it in small pieces and swallow it with a glass of water. Garlic is a natural

antibiotic to help prevent infection. Garlic is a strong medicinal food.

Therefore, make sure you don't take raw garlic more than 3 weeks in a row.

> >

> > • A folk remedy for asthma is ginger. Make a tea of freshly grated ginger

root. Even just chewing a small part of the root can work literal wonders.

> >

> > • Celery seeds are believed to be a tonic for asthma. An infusion of the

seeds in water in the ratio 1:20 is thought to calm the nerves and relief

asthmatic wheezing.

> >

> > • A fast on cayenne powder mixed with fresh lemon juice and organic maple

syrup should help with clearing inflammation in lungs. Drink 8 to 12 glasses of

the above ingredients mixed with water throughout the day. Continue this fast

for up to 20 days. I'm told by people who have done this fast that emphysema or

asthma would clear up.

> >

> > References:

> >

> > Cichoke, . (1994). Enzymes and Enzyme Therapy. New Canaan,

Connecticut: Keats publishing, Inc.

> >

> > Nick, . (June 2004). " Whole Foods Bestow Lung Cancer Protection and

Improve Lung Function " . Townsend Letter for Doctors and patients. pgs. 142-144.

> >

> > Check http://www.bluegreensolutions.com, and click on " Test Drive Your New

Body " for a 15 minute video of how health works.

> >

>

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,

I've read an interview by an older doc, Dr Derry, who found his

asthma patients's symptoms reduced greatly when placed on natural

dessicated thyroid medication. He said it was a bit embarrassing as

his waiting room was rather bare for a while. I understand your

symptoms increase at night, so would look at your room itself.

Have you had your Vitamin D3 levels checked (should be 50-60 min)? A

friend who is a pediatric pulmonologist/allergist and now teaches

jokes that he " hates to call D3 a wonder drug—except that it kind of

is. "

> Can anyone here tell me what they do to help prevent the night

asthma that makes you wake up suffocating. I have to use albuterol but

I'm told by the doctor that it should not be used daily, let alone two

or three times a night. Daytime is not too bad, but nights are pretty

uncomfortable. Any suggestions would appreciated.

>

>

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Hi :

My D levels are at 55 and I take fermented cod liver oil from

http://www.greenpasture.org/community/ as I'm a chapter leader and  member of

Weston A Price. I do also have Hashimoto, and have heard that thyroid med's have

helped some asthmatics, but I did not want to take hormones as Hashimoto is an

auto immune disorder and not a thyroid problem. The medical doctor did not agree

and wanted to put on synthroid but I really don't want to get started down that

path. Maybe I will try the dessicated thyroid your recommending and see if it

helps. I've also heard that magnesium is critical, and so I'm planning on

starting with trans-dermal magnesium from this company

http://www.puremagoil.com/index.htm

If anyone has an opinion on this, I'd be grateful knowing what you think.

From: e Rosewall <erosewall@...>

Subject: Re: Asthma Question

,

I've read an interview by an older doc, Dr Derry, who found his 

asthma patients's symptoms reduced greatly when placed on natural 

dessicated thyroid medication. He said it was a bit embarrassing as 

his waiting room was rather bare for a while. I understand your 

symptoms increase at night, so would look at your room itself.

Have you had your Vitamin D3 levels checked (should be 50-60 min)? A 

friend who is a pediatric pulmonologist/allergist and now teaches 

jokes that he " hates to call D3 a wonder drug容xcept that it kind of 

is. "

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Duncan:

I too agree that RAW dairy which I use is really good for asthmatics. I get my

raw milk and raw cream from a certified dairy here in Colorado. Jersey's, and Oh

boy is it ever delish. I was a lot worse before starting to drink the raw

stuff.  Do have a brand of the gluthione that you would recommend? - Also what

foods contain lots of this gluthione?

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Subject: Re: Asthma Question

I agree with Byron that much of the nutritional advice in the post on asthma

isn't accurate.

The language of avoiding " dairy " is part of the vegan notmilk myth-structure

that fails to recognize that undenatured whey can be the most important

supplement an asthmatic one could take for the glutathione increase that

asthmatics always show a deficiency of, systemically and especially in the lung

tissue.

The google terms I'd use to would be (oxidative OR glutathione asthma OR lung).

Mama cow isn't wrong; the stuff's good for you unless you have a

species-specific allergy to cow protein, then you'd perhaps try goat whey or

cystine pills, plus Amgenex DNA, which turns on gnenetic expression for

glutathoine production. Note that cancer is also reduced by adequate

glutathione.

Many people have got rid of leaky gut essentially by low carbing and drinking

undenatured whey shakes with inulin in them to feed the probiotics. Very little

dietary mod is required but the low carbing, which normally would naturally

include adequate inulin in the traditional staple foods.

all good,

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Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a saturead solution and

wiped on with a washcloth.

My vitamin D levels were at 73 a year ago. Probably higher now. I

no longer gets colds or flu.

I would be cautious about any thyroid hormones, in whatever form. I

am OK with taking hormone pre-cursors but I stay away from taking

individual hormones other than melatonin and vitamin D3.

Alobar

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Atwood <naturespharma@...> wrote:

> Hi :

> My D levels are at 55 and I take fermented cod liver oil from

http://www.greenpasture.org/community/ as I'm a chapter leader and  member of

Weston A Price. I do also have Hashimoto, and have heard that thyroid med's have

helped some asthmatics, but I did not want to take hormones as Hashimoto is an

auto immune disorder and not a thyroid problem. The medical doctor did not agree

and wanted to put on synthroid but I really don't want to get started down that

path. Maybe I will try the dessicated thyroid your recommending and see if it

helps. I've also heard that magnesium is critical, and so I'm planning on

starting with trans-dermal magnesium from this company

http://www.puremagoil.com/index.htm

>

> If anyone has an opinion on this, I'd be grateful knowing what you think.

>

>

>

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, it's about undenatured whey and selenium precursors, not eating

glutahtione.

I don't recommend glutathione dosing as such because the normal form GSH is

digested without elevating either blood serum or cellular glutathione. GSH needs

to be created from precursors (cysteine-contining short proteins, usually

dipeptides and tripeptides) in each cell. GSH injections directly increase serum

GSH, which is used by a couple of cell types, and liposomal GSH has some use as

a topical, also on a couple of cell types, but all the other cells and

particularly the mitochondria need the precursors.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Duncan:

> I too agree that RAW dairy which I use is really good for asthmatics. I get my

raw milk and raw cream from a certified dairy here in Colorado. Jersey's, and Oh

boy is it ever delish. I was a lot worse before starting to drink the raw

stuff.  Do have a brand of the gluthione that you would recommend? - Also what

foods contain lots of this gluthione?

>

>

>

>

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

> Subject: Re: Asthma Question

>

> I agree with Byron that much of the nutritional advice in the post on asthma

isn't accurate.

>

> The language of avoiding " dairy " is part of the vegan notmilk myth-structure

that fails to recognize that undenatured whey can be the most important

supplement an asthmatic one could take for the glutathione increase that

asthmatics always show a deficiency of, systemically and especially in the lung

tissue.

>

> The google terms I'd use to would be (oxidative OR glutathione asthma OR

lung). Mama cow isn't wrong; the stuff's good for you unless you have a

species-specific allergy to cow protein, then you'd perhaps try goat whey or

cystine pills, plus Amgenex DNA, which turns on gnenetic expression for

glutathoine production. Note that cancer is also reduced by adequate

glutathione.

>

> Many people have got rid of leaky gut essentially by low carbing and drinking

undenatured whey shakes with inulin in them to feed the probiotics. Very little

dietary mod is required but the low carbing, which normally would naturally

include adequate inulin in the traditional staple foods.

>

>

> all good,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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, on the Hashimoto's, glutathione has been described as being the seat of

immune response, and it prevents damage at a cellular level. Undenatured whey

and selenium will probably help you, but raw liquid whey I think you mentioned

is about fifty times too weak a concentration to do much good.

Also, Transfer Factor contains a component that quenches an overactive immune

response in addition to a component that stimulates NK cells and one that

educates the immune system. This company has several formulae. Code= HXXX is

needed to buy if you're not a doctor.

http://researchednutritionals.com

all good,

Duncan

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Hi Duncan:

What are some of the usual symptoms of an allergic reaction to whey?

Regards,

Jim

On 11/3/2010 12:53 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

>

> I agree with Byron that much of the nutritional advice in the post on

> asthma isn't accurate.

>

> The language of avoiding " dairy " is part of the vegan notmilk

> myth-structure that fails to recognize that undenatured whey can be

> the most important supplement an asthmatic one could take for the

> glutathione increase that asthmatics always show a deficiency of,

> systemically and especially in the lung tissue.

>

> The google terms I'd use to would be (oxidative OR glutathione asthma

> OR lung). Mama cow isn't wrong; the stuff's good for you unless you

> have a species-specific allergy to cow protein, then you'd perhaps try

> goat whey or cystine pills, plus Amgenex DNA, which turns on gnenetic

> expression for glutathoine production. Note that cancer is also

> reduced by adequate glutathione.

>

> Many people have got rid of leaky gut essentially by low carbing and

> drinking undenatured whey shakes with inulin in them to feed the

> probiotics. Very little dietary mod is required but the low carbing,

> which normally would naturally include adequate inulin in the

> traditional staple foods.

>

> all good,

>

> Duncan

>

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Hi Alobar:

I agree with your conclusions (as I usually do).

I find it very interesting that my friends are so reluctant to take D3

when it is so simple and effective against colds, even colds that have

already gotten started. When my wife and I first started taking D3,

we found that even midstream, taking 5000 iu of D3 several times a day

would wipe out all symptoms except the nose would still run for a day or

so.

Also, making magnesium oil is a piece of cake and it is very

inexpensive. Beyond that, I find it actually feels very good... sorta

like after shave for the body once you get used to it.

Finally, I agree on your concerns with taking hormones even though I

once had a friend in the Beck'n'stuff group who actually injected

testosterone with very good results... pretty radical I thought.

Cheers,

Jim

On 11/3/2010 2:27 PM, Alobar wrote:

>

> Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

> home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a saturead solution and

> wiped on with a washcloth.

>

> My vitamin D levels were at 73 a year ago. Probably higher now. I

> no longer gets colds or flu.

>

> I would be cautious about any thyroid hormones, in whatever form. I

> am OK with taking hormone pre-cursors but I stay away from taking

> individual hormones other than melatonin and vitamin D3.

>

> Alobar

>

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Jim / Alobar,

What type of D3 are you taking? Liquid, drops or tablets?

I recently caught a cold that I was able to mitigate with high does

vit-c. Next time I'll try D3. I currently take 3000 ui of D3 tablets but I

recently read that D3 isn't readily absorbed by the body in tablet form

unless taken with some sort of oil like VCO as a solvent.

I'm curious if you take drops or oil form of D3 or tablets?

yg

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:44 PM, Jim <huuman60@...> wrote:

>

>

> Hi Alobar:

>

> I agree with your conclusions (as I usually do).

>

> I find it very interesting that my friends are so reluctant to take D3

> when it is so simple and effective against colds, even colds that have

> already gotten started. When my wife and I first started taking D3,

> we found that even midstream, taking 5000 iu of D3 several times a day

> would wipe out all symptoms except the nose would still run for a day or

> so.

>

> Also, making magnesium oil is a piece of cake and it is very

> inexpensive. Beyond that, I find it actually feels very good... sorta

> like after shave for the body once you get used to it.

>

> Finally, I agree on your concerns with taking hormones even though I

> once had a friend in the Beck'n'stuff group who actually injected

> testosterone with very good results... pretty radical I thought.

>

> Cheers,

> Jim

>

>

> On 11/3/2010 2:27 PM, Alobar wrote:

> >

> > Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

> > home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a saturead solution and

> > wiped on with a washcloth.

> >

> > My vitamin D levels were at 73 a year ago. Probably higher now. I

> > no longer gets colds or flu.

> >

> > I would be cautious about any thyroid hormones, in whatever form. I

> > am OK with taking hormone pre-cursors but I stay away from taking

> > individual hormones other than melatonin and vitamin D3.

> >

> > Alobar

> >

>

>

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I started out taking cod liver oil. Carlson's oil is less nasty (but

more expensive) than cheapie brands. Then I discovered Ddrops which

are marketed by Carlson but invented in Canada. Ddrops are made from

sheep lanolin. No taste. I started out slowly with 2000 IU per day

and gradually increased to ~25,000 units a day. When not flu season I

cut back down to 10,000 IU per day, then increased again this flu

season.

Below is a link to a post I put in my LiveJournal about Ddrops. The

referencing URL no longer works.

http://alobar.livejournal.com/3207653.html

Alobar

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 11:22 PM, yg <yg@...> wrote:

> Jim / Alobar,

>

> What type of D3 are you taking? Liquid, drops or tablets?

>

> I recently caught a cold that I was able to mitigate with high does

> vit-c. Next time I'll try D3. I currently take 3000 ui of D3 tablets but I

> recently read that D3 isn't readily absorbed by the body in tablet form

> unless taken with some sort of oil like VCO as a solvent.

>

> I'm curious if you take drops or oil form of D3 or tablets?

>

> yg

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i have an 18 month old and have been giving him 1000 d3 for a while every day.

he has been sick only one time. does anyone know if this is an appropriate

dose? the rda is ridiculous, but i dont wanna overdo it. thanks!

Re: Re: Asthma Question

Hi Alobar:

I agree with your conclusions (as I usually do).

I find it very interesting that my friends are so reluctant to take D3

when it is so simple and effective against colds, even colds that have

already gotten started. When my wife and I first started taking D3,

we found that even midstream, taking 5000 iu of D3 several times a day

would wipe out all symptoms except the nose would still run for a day or

so.

Also, making magnesium oil is a piece of cake and it is very

inexpensive. Beyond that, I find it actually feels very good... sorta

like after shave for the body once you get used to it.

Finally, I agree on your concerns with taking hormones even though I

once had a friend in the Beck'n'stuff group who actually injected

testosterone with very good results... pretty radical I thought.

Cheers,

Jim

On 11/3/2010 2:27 PM, Alobar wrote:

>

> Transdermal Magnesium is much much less expensive if you make it at

> home. Nigari (used to make tofu) is made into a

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