Guest guest Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Alobar, I'd bet the chicken flocks and cow herds have been exposed to mycobacterium avium and Transfer Factors from them would be very useful. I would double dose the animal for the first 5 days. Here's the purchase point; the person will phone and ask them which mix is best, and use code=HXXX to buy from the site: http://researchednutritionals.com all good, Duncan > > I have a friend with a basset hound named Fred, who has a terminally > ill infection. He is not too sick yet, but the prognosois by the Vets > is death. I made the suggestions below and am asking here for other > recomendations, especially colloidal silver. > > Alobar > > Mycobacterium Avian Infection > Description: A bacterial infection similar to tuberculosis. It is very > unlikely that it is inherited and can be a cause from a potential > defect in the immune system. Infection can be through ingesting feces > of infected birds, infected meat, and with contact with infected soil. > Symptoms: The most apparent sign of an mycobacterium avium infection > is an enlargement of the lymph node. Vomiting, lameness, blood in > stool and lack of eating are some of the external signs. > Diagnosis: A sample from the lymph node needs to be tested to see if > the pathogen (mycobacterium avium) is present. > Treatment: There is no cure of mycobacterium avium infection and it is > ultimately a fatal condition. > > The pooch will remain home until he gets sick enough to have a Vet put him down. > > I am recommending the following: > > Vitamin C. Dogs make their own Vitamin C, but it may not be enough. > If he is still drinking water or eating, Sodium Ascorbate is pretty > tasteless. Healthy animals make 10-15 grams of vitamin C per day per > 150 pounds of body weight. When an animal is sick, they need a whole > lot more. Best taken throughout the day. Too much C gives one loose > stool. No dangerous side effects. Vitamin C is primo for bacterial > infections, snakebites, and even curing polio. > > Vitamin D3. D3 allows the immune system to respond quickly to > invading organisms. The RDA for vitamin D is garbage. For humans, > 50,000 IU is safe for about a week. 25,000 IU can be taken for much > longer periods. I would scale down 25,000 IU down to Fred's body > weight. 25,000 IU is based on a 150 pound human. Carlson makes > Ddrops in several strengths. Tasteless. You can add it to food, or > put drops on your hand if Fred licks you. I buy Ddrops here: > http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?ss=1 & Ntk=products & x=0 & y=0 & Ntt=Carlso\ n%20Ddrops > If you cannot get them locally, Vitacost can get you next day delivery. > > Make sure Fred is not exposed to tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke wreaks > havoc on the immune system. > > I shall be asking on the Coconut oil list about Colloidal Silver and > anything else they might suggest and get back to you. Some humans > have reported that colloidal silver turned their skin gray. I > suspect Fred probably would not even notice if his skin turned gray. > I will report back with dosage recommendations, and brands to look > for. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Perhaps iodine as Lugol's or Iodoral? I couldn't make sense of this paper but perhaps it is useful for you: http://www.midlandstech.edu/science/kelleherk/225/LabMaterials/bacterialstains.h\ tml Also the use of DMSO as a carrier to penetrate the cellular wall of the bacteria (perhaps with the use of colloidal silver or iodine) : http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/ma?f=102234819.html Unrelated to the iodine suggestion but here is an article about a genetic defect in some mini schnauzer's that are genetically disposed to ATB: http://www.mscc.ca/additional.html - Perhaps the research facility that is named might shed some insight to their current approach. I wonder if it would be appropriate to use charcoal or bentonite clay to help absorb & excrete toxins being produced by the bacteria? Hopefully they are able to provide a top quality food source such as Wysong Epigen so the body does not have to work to hard to get nutrients. If the dog is not eating on it's own I would imagine that they could either prepare raw food " shakes " or blend up the Epigen with (quality) water for syringe feeding. I have also used whey protein isolate w/ added lactoferrin (LEF brand) for an ailing dog. Enzyme & probiotic support seems like a good idea as well. I have a stainless steel feeding nozzle like this: http://tinyurl.com/2g7mfgj > > I have a friend with a basset hound named Fred, who has a terminally > ill infection. He is not too sick yet, but the prognosois by the Vets > is death. I made the suggestions below and am asking here for other > recomendations, especially colloidal silver. > > Alobar > > Mycobacterium Avian Infection > Description: A bacterial infection similar to tuberculosis. It is very > unlikely that it is inherited and can be a cause from a potential > defect in the immune system. Infection can be through ingesting feces > of infected birds, infected meat, and with contact with infected soil. > Symptoms: The most apparent sign of an mycobacterium avium infection > is an enlargement of the lymph node. Vomiting, lameness, blood in > stool and lack of eating are some of the external signs. > Diagnosis: A sample from the lymph node needs to be tested to see if > the pathogen (mycobacterium avium) is present. > Treatment: There is no cure of mycobacterium avium infection and it is > ultimately a fatal condition. > > The pooch will remain home until he gets sick enough to have a Vet put him down. > > I am recommending the following: > > Vitamin C. Dogs make their own Vitamin C, but it may not be enough. > If he is still drinking water or eating, Sodium Ascorbate is pretty > tasteless. Healthy animals make 10-15 grams of vitamin C per day per > 150 pounds of body weight. When an animal is sick, they need a whole > lot more. Best taken throughout the day. Too much C gives one loose > stool. No dangerous side effects. Vitamin C is primo for bacterial > infections, snakebites, and even curing polio. > > Vitamin D3. D3 allows the immune system to respond quickly to > invading organisms. The RDA for vitamin D is garbage. For humans, > 50,000 IU is safe for about a week. 25,000 IU can be taken for much > longer periods. I would scale down 25,000 IU down to Fred's body > weight. 25,000 IU is based on a 150 pound human. Carlson makes > Ddrops in several strengths. Tasteless. You can add it to food, or > put drops on your hand if Fred licks you. I buy Ddrops here: > http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?ss=1 & Ntk=products & x=0 & y=0 & Ntt=Carlso\ n%20Ddrops > If you cannot get them locally, Vitacost can get you next day delivery. > > Make sure Fred is not exposed to tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke wreaks > havoc on the immune system. > > I shall be asking on the Coconut oil list about Colloidal Silver and > anything else they might suggest and get back to you. Some humans > have reported that colloidal silver turned their skin gray. I > suspect Fred probably would not even notice if his skin turned gray. > I will report back with dosage recommendations, and brands to look > for. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Alobar, Try giving the dog grated fresh coconut meat. This has helped our dogs a lot a few years back. They loved it too. > > > > I have a friend with a basset hound named Fred, who has a terminally > > ill infection. He is not too sick yet, but the prognosois by the Vets > > is death. I made the suggestions below and am asking here for other > > recomendations, especially colloidal silver. > > > > Alobar > > > > Mycobacterium Avian Infection > > Description: A bacterial infection similar to tuberculosis. It is very > > unlikely that it is inherited and can be a cause from a potential > > defect in the immune system. Infection can be through ingesting feces > > of infected birds, infected meat, and with contact with infected soil. > > Symptoms: The most apparent sign of an mycobacterium avium infection > > is an enlargement of the lymph node. Vomiting, lameness, blood in > > stool and lack of eating are some of the external signs. > > Diagnosis: A sample from the lymph node needs to be tested to see if > > the pathogen (mycobacterium avium) is present. > > Treatment: There is no cure of mycobacterium avium infection and it is > > ultimately a fatal condition. > > > > The pooch will remain home until he gets sick enough to have a Vet put him down. > > > > I am recommending the following: > > > > Vitamin C. Dogs make their own Vitamin C, but it may not be enough. > > If he is still drinking water or eating, Sodium Ascorbate is pretty > > tasteless. Healthy animals make 10-15 grams of vitamin C per day per > > 150 pounds of body weight. When an animal is sick, they need a whole > > lot more. Best taken throughout the day. Too much C gives one loose > > stool. No dangerous side effects. Vitamin C is primo for bacterial > > infections, snakebites, and even curing polio. > > > > Vitamin D3. D3 allows the immune system to respond quickly to > > invading organisms. The RDA for vitamin D is garbage. For humans, > > 50,000 IU is safe for about a week. 25,000 IU can be taken for much > > longer periods. I would scale down 25,000 IU down to Fred's body > > weight. 25,000 IU is based on a 150 pound human. Carlson makes > > Ddrops in several strengths. Tasteless. You can add it to food, or > > put drops on your hand if Fred licks you. I buy Ddrops here: > > http://www.vitacost.com/productResults.aspx?ss=1 & Ntk=products & x=0 & y=0 & Ntt=Carlso\ n%20Ddrops > > If you cannot get them locally, Vitacost can get you next day delivery. > > > > Make sure Fred is not exposed to tobacco smoke. Tobacco smoke wreaks > > havoc on the immune system. > > > > I shall be asking on the Coconut oil list about Colloidal Silver and > > anything else they might suggest and get back to you. Some humans > > have reported that colloidal silver turned their skin gray. I > > suspect Fred probably would not even notice if his skin turned gray. > > I will report back with dosage recommendations, and brands to look > > for. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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