RE: Duncan and his hormone use Lynda.

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I wasn't referring to Thyroid cases but JUST to someone using Preg for a

hormone " precursor " and feeling okay while using it. I didn't know that

Thyroid problems were treated strictly with Preg.

Are they? Please enlighten me.

Bonnie

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From: Coconut Oil

[mailto:Coconut Oil ] On Behalf Of Lynda

Constantineau

Sent: August 5, 2010 6:51 PM

Coconut Oil

Subject: Re: Duncan and his hormone use.

How you feel is not a marker for *anything*? I beg to differ as will many

on the thyroid boards. If one is in the hands of a doc knowledgeable he/she

WILL go by how you feel. And I imagine that thyroid is not the only thing

where one would go by how one feels such as adrenals but I am not an expert.

Lynda

You certainly cannot go by HOW YOU FEEL. That's not a marker for anything.

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From: Coconut Oil

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<mailto:Coconut Oil%40> ] On Behalf Of Duncan Crow

Sent: August 5, 2010 2:42 AM

Coconut Oil

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Subject: Re: Duncan and his hormone use.

Bonnie, when we take the precursor our systems can maintain the balance of

hormone creation as they always did, just a higher level than they'd been

sagging to.

In considering pregnenolone over DHEA, we're balancing out Jo's highish

estrogen, which testosterone was miserable at doing, with balanced hormone

creation including hopefully progesterone, while reducing her estrogen

output by slimming her down, mainly by elevating HGH and reducing oxidative

stress.

The progesterone approach would generally follow Dr. Lee's focus and I

think it's more correct than simply elevating sex hormones. Anyway,

progesterone, DHEA, estrogen, and testosterone can be maintained in balance

by the body with pregnenolone and forced out of balance by DHEA.

It's not that we don't appreciate the warning, but pregnenolone is pretty

safe even at the highish dose of 150 mg/day used in the research on reducing

cognitive impairment in the elderly. After due consideration of that and

other research and after reading what everyone's doing and Sahelian's page

we felt OK with our decision and opted not to test.

Our personal doses are a low 25 mg, well within natural boost range even if

our levels were normal to start with, and we intend to balance out at a 22

year olds HGH values that we're chasing with the HGH trigger, not a 50-year

old's requirements. I had estimated about 3 x 25 mg per day would still be

ballpark but one is working OK and 50 mg daily for a week wasn't noticeaby

better so we'll leave it at that.

Yes, we noticed the difference in days, we notice if we stop too, and we're

fine, believe me. We have anti-aged considerablyso far and this makes it

better. We both feel peak, quicker, stronger, more energetic, Jo's much more

active, and she had plateaued for a 3-4 months but has started slimming and

firming again in the last few weeks since we started the minerals. There go

the last 10 pounds I'm sure of it

all good,

Duncan

>

> Hello Everyone:

>

> Duncan has the right idea by using Pregnenolone at his age (the precursor

of

> all the hormones) HOWEVER, I've been after Duncan for awhile now, to GO

AND

> GET TESTED. It's irresponsible NOT TO. And it's NOT that expensive either.

> Then you would know if you are taking too much or too little. So people

> beware, you're all individuals and each one of you WILL DO SOMETHING

> DIFFERENT WITH PREG.

>

> No one know WHAT Preg will do, WHERE Preg will go and what hormones it

will

> influence. Without proper hormone testing BY SALIVA, no one knows WHAT it

> is doing.

>

> Your Progesterone could get EXTREMELY high (without you knowing it) which

> can INFLUENCE your Cortisol levels. Remember Cortisol, the stress hormone?

> They (Cortisol and Progesterone) compete for the same receptors.

>

> For anti-aging, building some muscle, helping with Diabetes, feeling

better,

> you're FAR SAFER to use a low dose, DHEA pill. BECAUSE we know EXACTLY

> where DHEA will go and what it will influence.

>

> Bonnie

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