Re: phs toxicity

[Guest guest]

ph, you are still sick and toxic after 8 years or so of being on the health

lists. I'd bet the farm you are low in glutathione. Glutathione reserve is

described in the research to be the most reliable marker of health and

prognosis, and what is your prognoisis today if not poor as it stands?

Glutathione is your natural chelation molecule and the liver is the largest user

of it as it detoxes you. Stress proteins are fine, but unless they contain

several grams of lactoferrin, albumin, lactalbumin and beta-lactoglobulin, the

glutathione creators, they are not for glutathione production.

You mention having trouble wrapping your brain around it. Take a look at the

document on glutathione and the brain on my site and you'll never stop using

undenatured whey again

http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/glutahtione-references.html

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

As if I'd be well now if I followed you the last 8 years. I've heard that line

before and I don't believe it for a second.

The first thing is to address the oxalates. To take all those supps right now

would be putting the cart before the horse. I'm not into spending big bucks on

supps that have little to no effect and will end up being stored, thrown away,

or just a waste of my money.

The Immunocal you sold me didn't do a THING for me. I had other tissues going on

that you didn't have the ability or knowledge to find or take the time to find.

You just wanted to sell me some Immunocal.

Immunocal may be a natural supplement but if you do not treat the diet first and

foremost, you're missing the boat and using Immunocal as a drug to treat

symptoms.

You're like talking to a wall. You seem to have one thing on your agenda -

selling Immunocal and other supplements.

Joe

[Guest guest]

ph; if oxalates are your new focus, " ...oxalate binding is regulated by

thiol status of mitochondria " :

" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8744836

Thus my point on glutathione: " Oxalates deplete glutathione in a big way... "

<www.autismhelpathome.com/.../advice-for-using-the-low-oxalate-diet-for-autism.h\

tml>

And, " Oxalate production is ordinarily restricted by other sulfur molecules like

cysteine and glutathione when they bind to oxalate's precursors... " :

<www.lowoxalate.info/papers/history_autism_ox_proj.html>

So it's pretty well known in oxalate circles. Nuff said ph? The gooogle

search on oxalate glutathione turns up buckets of this information.

The reliability of keeping glutathione high can't be ignored; 200 processes

including reducing oxalates and even longevity itself relies on it, all disease

is relevant to low glutathione, and no disease is relevant to high glutathione.

Holy cow dude! I'd think this would be seen as more of an epiphany rather than a

minor variable.

You really should take your blinders off and drink your whey. What if five

people rather than three told you that? Let's have it guys.

I'm really sorry for you with your current choice. But anyhow you do it, all's

well, buddy; I'm glad you're survivin'.

I don't sell Immunocal; only sold it for about 6 months back in '02 I think.

Found something cheaper.

Duncan

>

> As if I'd be well now if I followed you the last 8 years. I've heard that line

before and I don't believe it for a second.

>

> The first thing is to address the oxalates. To take all those supps right now

would be putting the cart before the horse. I'm not into spending big bucks on

supps that have little to no effect and will end up being stored, thrown away,

or just a waste of my money.

>

> The Immunocal you sold me didn't do a THING for me. I had other tissues going

on that you didn't have the ability or knowledge to find or take the time to

find. You just wanted to sell me some Immunocal.

>

> Immunocal may be a natural supplement but if you do not treat the diet first

and foremost, you're missing the boat and using Immunocal as a drug to treat

symptoms.

>

> You're like talking to a wall. You seem to have one thing on your agenda -

selling Immunocal and other supplements.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

That is amazing about Ducan and his research quality.... many people can

master research I have a whole team of them,... However when he sends me a

private email when I asked for help and/or to send others to him for help and

he sends an email back stating he does not do charity work and it sways

his head when someone lines his pocket with 45.00 does not make a good

impression, nor his behavior with Joe. I am least impressed and more disgusted.

I

also agree there are many bed side manners... but cruelty is just that and

you cannot make excuses for treating Joe in the manner Duncan did. I am

pulling all information from Duncan from my book because I WANT NO ONE that

reads my book to even have to take a chance he will react in any way shape

or form like he did with Joe. It was uncalled for and over the top. Duncan

cannot handle it when people do not agree with him, this is obvious. I can

see this and do not need to have been in the group for years. I agree with

the ladies. Sorry but I think that if you are going to moderate Joe who WAS

trying to stop it... then Duncan should also.... I do not care moderate me

or take me out... for bringing up the obvious... but it does not matter how

bright Duncan's mind is if he cannot get along with others on a regular

basis. Whoaaaaaaa..... Sorry Duncan but you got to get a grip, you cannot

cram things down someone's throat just because YOU personally believe in it.

Was great you did research on this... and spent the hours... but if it was

done for the right reason, then you would also understand many of us

research everyday for ourselves and others. Just because we present it solid as

a

rock does not mean anyone will use it. It is a choice.... Just like Budwig

may be great for some people, but not myself and daughter who have casein

issues. I already know about safe whey so no need to explain that to me...

I already get it and no need to preach to the choir... I am not telling

anyone what to do vs not do least of all the moderator. But look no ones worth

is worth more then the piece of mind of another...

Personally Joe I would like to apologize for Duncan's behavior... it was

over the top and uncalled for. I am sorry you are now threatened to be

moderated. I am most shocked but in a way I am glad I seen the whole side of

Duncan the man because I almost made a huge mistake and the book may have sent

innocent people to him... Ok I am NOT OK with that in the least after what

I HAVE witnessed here with his actions. I would never take that chance with

my clients, students, colleagues, or anyone else for that matter..

My advice just let this whole topic go, nothing is going to come from it...

I personally would hate to see you leave because Duncan wanted to be a big

bully with playground tactics. I am sure I am now also in jeopardy for

speaking the truth but I admire Dolores and the rest of you for standing up

and speaking out even if it was not the most popular stance to take, in my

eyes it was the only stance that should have been taken. No one should have

to be bullied. If you want to bully on someone, bring it to me, but lay off

Joe... I was the one who asked this whole sick topic to stop... I am most

shocked that Duncan's behavior is so downplayed like his information he may

or may not have is worth more then the way he treats others... Now that is

sorely sad! Fair is fair.... Joe tried to end it, Duncan would not let it

stop... until I said something and others agreed... that is facts look at

pervious emails. Again sorry Joe we are not in school anymore and this is not

a school hallway... God forgive them for they know not what they do...

everyone counts not just the few or one.

Lynnice