Re: Fresh Raw Coconut Cream

[Guest guest]

My family prefers cream even though I'm an agent of most coconut products with

Quality First International. Cream is tailored for mammalian biology, containing

butyric acid, a direct food for the bowel lining cells that is used to " cure "

bowel dysbiosis lesions, and stearic acid, a healthy fat, neither of which are

found in coconut oil. Cream is not as high in lauric acid as coconut oil is but

high enough for mammals to thrive.

The American Heart Foundation points out that that even though stearic acid is a

saturated fat, studies have suggested that it has little effect on blood

cholesterol levels, because such a high proportion is converted to oleic acid.

Butter is about 25% oleic acid, the chief component of olive oil, while coconut

oil contains no stearic acid and just 6% oleic acid.

Many people think extra virgin olive oil is the healthiest oil; maybe we should

toss olive oil into the analysis as well.

You'll see major differences in the fatty acid profiles alone when you read Greg

's oils analysis chart of common food oils:

<http://members.shaw.ca/duncancrow/OilAnalysis.gif>

While many water soluble and non-fat nutrients in coconut cream are also found

in cream, many in cream are not found in coconut oil. Vitamin K for example, and

also cysteine residues that are made into cellular glutathione, do not occur in

coconut oil. Low glutathione leads to a failure to thrive and chronic illness.

It appears with this study

<http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN & cpsidt=22283870>

that an accurate means to determine cysteine content of cream has been devised.

The text of your question Dan mentions comparing both coconut cream and coconut

oil to dairy cream. That's a tough one because there are almost no similarities

to compare to, but comparisons of specific components within each can be readily

made.

Dan, which enzymes are in coconut cream? Enzymes have a specific function we can

harness if there are enough of them. But, glutathione is an enzyme that is

broken down in the stomach, and other enzymes are probably destroyed in the

stomach acid as well.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Does anyone have any input as to studies or personal experience with the usage

of fresh raw organic coconut cream vs. organic virgin coconut oil? Bruce Fife

commented that he knows of no studies! The current research is on coconut oil

only. There are two people that discuss the benefits of coconut cream over the

oil and are Dr. Aajonus Vonderplanitz and Dr. Norman . Both say that

coconut cream builds a body and detoxifies it at the same time. Vonderplanitz

claims that the coconut cream is most effective and efficient at drawing out

heavy metals from the blood via intestinal track and lymph system. The only

other point to make for the raw coconut cream is that it contains both fat and

water soluble nutrients and enzymes.

>

> Any research or input is greatly appreciated.

>

> Dan Hegerich

> Do The CURE

> www.dothecure.blogspot.com

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Duncan,

What coconut cream would you recommend? I've been taking VCO for quite some

time and can see some advantages in the cream. Would I consume as much cream as

oil and where would I purchase your recommendation?

Always in appreciation of your interest and generosity of spirit.

Love and Laughter,

Anne

Hot Springs, AR, USA

> >

> > Does anyone have any input as to studies or personal experience with the

usage of fresh raw organic coconut cream vs. organic virgin coconut oil? Bruce

Fife commented that he knows of no studies! The current research is on coconut

oil only. There are two people that discuss the benefits of coconut cream over

the oil and are Dr. Aajonus Vonderplanitz and Dr. Norman . Both say that

coconut cream builds a body and detoxifies it at the same time. Vonderplanitz

claims that the coconut cream is most effective and efficient at drawing out

heavy metals from the blood via intestinal track and lymph system. The only

other point to make for the raw coconut cream is that it contains both fat and

water soluble nutrients and enzymes.

> >

> > Any research or input is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Dan Hegerich

> > Do The CURE

> > www.dothecure.blogspot.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dan,

Thanks for the info on raw coconut cream. I don't make my own as you do but buy

organic coconut cream concentrate from Tropical Traditions. It's probably the

closest thing to making your own.

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/coconut_cream_concentrate.htm

I do prefer it to the oil but do use the oil for cooking. Also, your mention of

Dr. Vonderplanitz led me to a search and I came up with this (very lenthy!)

interview with him. Wow, what an amazing life story. Well worth the read but

still don't know if I can swallow meat raw :-). Looking forward to more of your

posts.

Best,

Dee

>

> Anne,

>

> Fresh raw coconut cream must be hand made otherwise stabilizers and

> preservatives must be added.  I make my own by juicing the meat of a mature

> coconut which extracts about 95% of the coconut cream.  I have no data on how

> much coconut cream to consume compared with coconut oil.  My nutritional

mentor

> suggests that I consume around 4T of coconut cream (2oz per day) on average

with

> as  much as 8T per day.  He also suggested that I limit my intake of coconut

oil

> to no more than 1T per day. 

>

>

> You can order the coconut cream in the USA at www.naturesjuicecoop.com

>

> From my learning thus far coconut cream is superior because it contains both

fat

> and water soluble nutrients, proteins and enzymes-a more complete food.  It is

> best for building health and detoxifying at the same time while coconut oil

acts

> mainly as a cleanser/detoxifier. 

>

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Dan

>

>

[Guest guest]

You are welcome Dolores.  Raw meat is only a psychological issue.  I am

certain

that you have swallowed other things that you thought you couldn't.   And how

is

it that we have come to enjoy the taste and smell of cooked flesh rather than

raw flesh. 

________________________________

From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 1:38:05 PM

Subject: Re: Fresh Raw Coconut Cream

 

Dan,

Thanks for the info on raw coconut cream. I don't make my own as you do but buy

organic coconut cream concentrate from Tropical Traditions. It's probably the

closest thing to making your own.

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/coconut_cream_concentrate.htm

I do prefer it to the oil but do use the oil for cooking. Also, your mention of

Dr. Vonderplanitz led me to a search and I came up with this (very lenthy!)

interview with him. Wow, what an amazing life story. Well worth the read but

still don't know if I can swallow meat raw :-). Looking forward to more of your

posts.

Best,

Dee

>

> Anne,

>

> Fresh raw coconut cream must be hand made otherwise stabilizers and

> preservatives must be added.  I make my own by juicing the meat of a mature

> coconut which extracts about 95% of the coconut cream.  I have no data on how

> much coconut cream to consume compared with coconut oil.  My nutritional

mentor

>

> suggests that I consume around 4T of coconut cream (2oz per day) on average

>with

>

> as  much as 8T per day.  He also suggested that I limit my intake of coconut

>oil

>

> to no more than 1T per day. 

>

>

> You can order the coconut cream in the USA at www.naturesjuicecoop.com

>

> From my learning thus far coconut cream is superior because it contains both

>fat

>

> and water soluble nutrients, proteins and enzymes-a more complete food.  It

is

> best for building health and detoxifying at the same time while coconut oil

>acts

>

> mainly as a cleanser/detoxifier. 

>

>

> Hope this helps,

>

> Dan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dan,

Yes, it could very well just be a psychological issue. Dr. Vonderplanitz

certainly makes a good case for it. Btw, I forgot to include the link to that

interview with him, so will do so now. You're probably already aware of it but

others may also be interested:

http://www.drbass.com/aajonus.html

Do you eat your meat raw?

Best,

Dee

>

> You are welcome Dolores.  Raw meat is only a psychological issue.  I am

certain

> that you have swallowed other things that you thought you couldn't.   And

how is

> it that we have come to enjoy the taste and smell of cooked flesh rather than

> raw flesh. 

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes I do eat raw meat and I am a student of Dr. Vonderplanitz. 

________________________________

From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Thu, November 25, 2010 5:27:05 PM

Subject: Re: Fresh Raw Coconut Cream

 

Hi Dan,

Yes, it could very well just be a psychological issue. Dr. Vonderplanitz

certainly makes a good case for it. Btw, I forgot to include the link to that

interview with him, so will do so now. You're probably already aware of it but

others may also be interested:

http://www.drbass.com/aajonus.html

Do you eat your meat raw?

Best,

Dee

>

> You are welcome Dolores.  Raw meat is only a psychological issue.  I am

>certain

>

> that you have swallowed other things that you thought you couldn't.  

And

>how is

>

> it that we have come to enjoy the taste and smell of cooked flesh rather than

> raw flesh. 

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Anne; I'm not choosy about coconut cream because I haven't had a problem with

it. The one I presently have is from either Real Canadian Superstore or

Thrifty's grocer, it's called Savoy from Thai Agri Foods Public Company Ltd.

from Thailand and it's 20% fat.

If the coconut cream is not separated, at 20% oil it would take five times as

much to get the same amount of oil you'd normally take.

all good,

Duncan

>

> Hi Duncan,

>

> What coconut cream would you recommend? I've been taking VCO for quite some

time and can see some advantages in the cream. Would I consume as much cream as

oil and where would I purchase your recommendation?

>

> Always in appreciation of your interest and generosity of spirit.

>

> Love and Laughter,

> Anne

> Hot Springs, AR, USA

>