Re: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

July 5, 2011

Hello ,

I am new here, have never posted, but was curious myself if anyone had tried MCT

oil.Â I too have been taking CO for sometime now.Â Recently I found a web site

that recommended mixing the two together, 16 oz of MCT oil to 12 oz of Coconut

Oil.Â Wow, the energy you get is amazing.Â At least that has been my

experience

and I have only been doing the MCT since last Friday.Â And the mixture stays

liquid, except in the fridge but its a good place to store the extra and it

returns and stays liquid at room temp.Â

I envy you knowing about CO and taking while pregnant.Â Have you also checked

into the importance of Vitamin D for you and your baby?Â Around 400IU for the

baby and / or 2000 IU a day for you.

I do not think that MCT oil is bad for you while breast feeding.Â And the

reason

it is suggested that you mix the CO and MCT is that MCT has only one or two

types ofÂ Medium chain fatty acids and CO has many more.

C.

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From: U <thewozi@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, July 2, 2011 3:30:15 PM

Subject: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

Â

I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a beautiful,

healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my diet. I think it

might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing. Does anyone know

if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

Thanks!

July 5, 2011

,

I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be safe. Monolaurin is one

of the main reasons why breast milk is healthier than cow or goat (or soy)

milk. This fortifies the baby's immune system and prevents infection from

germs. The more the better as far as I can tell.

Bob

Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

>I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

>beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my

>diet. I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been

>experiencing. Does anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

>

> Thanks!

>

> ------------------------------------

>

July 7, 2011

,

Since lauric acid is one of the components of human breast milk that prevents

infection in a newborn I would hold off on the MCT oil until you are finished

breast feeding as MCT oil contains no lauric acid. Using both might not be a

good idea either as I seem to recall that one of our members reported feeling

over-stimulated by it with a need for constant movement. Think how that might

impact an infant. Better to be err on the side of caution I think.

All the Best,

Dee

>

> I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my diet.

I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing. Does

anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

>

> Thanks!

>

July 7, 2011

Dee's thoughts make a lot of sense with regards to the baby.Â I too have this

over stimulation, though frankly I can use it.Â However I would say that if you

really want to try MCT, you might mix it with Higher levels of CO.Â I am

presently doing 16 oz MCT and 12 oz CO.Â I think I will go 50/50 on the next

batch.

You might want to try 16 oz CO and maybe 4 to 8 oz MCT to start.Â Or you can

just add 1 teaspoon full a day and continue with the CO.Â

Mixing it does make it a bit easier to measure since it stays liquid.

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From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Thu, July 7, 2011 8:11:53 AM

Subject: Re: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

Â

,

Since lauric acid is one of the components of human breast milk that prevents

infection in a newborn I would hold off on the MCT oil until you are finished

breast feeding as MCT oil contains no lauric acid. Using both might not be a

good idea either as I seem to recall that one of our members reported feeling

over-stimulated by it with a need for constant movement. Think how that might

impact an infant. Better to be err on the side of caution I think.

All the Best,

Dee

>

> I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

>beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my diet.

>I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing. Does

>anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

>

> Thanks!

>

July 8, 2011

I have a question about this MCT oil, which I had never heard of as such, but I

looked it up. It says it occurs naturally in CO and palm kernel oil. So what do

they derive the MCT oil from? (I couldn't find a source on the info I found).

And why not just use CO or palm kernel oil? What are the benefits of taking it

on its own? (Most importantly, though, where does it come from? Is it made in a

lab? That would automatically turn me off from it).

--Leah

> >

> > I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

> >beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my

diet.

> >I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing. Does

> >anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

July 8, 2011

Coconut oil is composed of approximately 66% medium-chain triglycerides.Â MCT

oil is 100% medium - chain triglycerides.Â Â Â I can't find a quick answer as

to

how its made, but the medical community uses it to feed premies, burn victims,

comotose, anyone that needs a quick form of enery to heal or grow.Â It does

make

you a bit hyper to start, but I have noticed it is easing up a bit.Â I can only

speak to myself, but I have noticed more healing, more energy etc, with the mix

of MCT and CO than with the CO alone.

Â

C

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From: Leah <wenandleah@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Fri, July 8, 2011 2:08:00 PM

Subject: Re: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

Â

I have a question about this MCT oil, which I had never heard of as such, but I

looked it up. It says it occurs naturally in CO and palm kernel oil. So what do

they derive the MCT oil from? (I couldn't find a source on the info I found).

And why not just use CO or palm kernel oil? What are the benefits of taking it

on its own? (Most importantly, though, where does it come from? Is it made in a

lab? That would automatically turn me off from it).

--Leah

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July 8, 2011

Hi Leah,

You ask a very good question. The newer product called MCT oil is very confusing

because virgin coconut oil is also considered an MCT oil - whole and

un-fractionated. MCT stands for medium chain triglycerides and coconut oil

contains them all. A new product called MCT oil, on the other hand, is

fractionated (separated by fractional distillation) from coconut oil or palm

kernal oil and has had most of the MCT's (medium chain triglicerides) removed

except for the capritic and caprylic acid. As a result it is lacking in lauric,

palmitic oleic and linoleic acids.

This " MCT oil is a vegetable oil distilled from coconut oil or palm kernel oil

with steam. The steam's heat separates the medium-chain fatty acids (MCFAs) from

the whole coconut oil or palm kernel oil. After distillation, the free MCFAs are

esterified (attached) to a glycerol backbone, re-forming them into the

characteristic triglyceride (fat) molecules of vegetable oil. The raw MCT oil is

then purified and deodorized with traditional vegetable oil refining

procedures. "

http://www.microlipids.com/frequent-questions/

Manufacturers of this MCT oil like to tell you that MCT oil is what was added to

infant formula in hospitals for the treatment of malnutrition. However, this is

simply untrue because the newer oil contains no lauric acid which is so

important for infants (and people too!). To learn more about MCT's (the whole

kind) this is the best place to start:

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/article10612.htm

All the Best,

Dee

> > >

> > > I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

> > >beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my

diet.

> > >I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing.

Does

> > >anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > >

> >

July 9, 2011

> You ask a very good question. The newer product called MCT oil is very

confusing because virgin coconut oil is also considered an MCT oil -

---------

Dee,

thank you for your very helpful answer. I suspected this may be the case. I'm

not really into engineered food. I figure God knew what He was doing when he

made the healing foods in their whole forms.

Thanks!

Leah

July 9, 2011

Leah,

I understand the sentiment about whole foods, but when we eat the coconut oil by

itselfÂ we are not eating the " whole food " .Â TrueÂ the coconutÂ is mildly

processed, but processed/manufactured none-the-less as it the MCT oil.

C.

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From: Leah <wenandleah@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 11:11:44 AM

Subject: Re: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

Â

> You ask a very good question. The newer product called MCT oil is very

>confusing because virgin coconut oil is also considered an MCT oil -

>

---------

Dee,

thank you for your very helpful answer. I suspected this may be the case. I'm

not really into engineered food. I figure God knew what He was doing when he

made the healing foods in their whole forms.

Thanks!

Leah

July 9, 2011

You are quite welcome Leah, and I agree with you. It's hard enough to find

unadulterated and non-engineered food these days!

Best,

Dee

> Dee,

> thank you for your very helpful answer. I suspected this may be the case. I'm

not really into engineered food. I figure God knew what He was doing when he

made the healing foods in their whole forms.

>

> Thanks!

> Leah

>

July 9, 2011

Hi ,

While it is true that NO oil is a " whole " food (because it has to be extracted

from such) there does seem to be a HUGE difference in the extraction methods

used in making the best VCO and the newer MCT oil. One does need to do some

research on the coconut oil one buys, however. In any case VCO is much closer to

whole food due to the fact that none of the MCT's natural to coconuts have been

removed. Of course it's a good idea to eat the coconut meat as well, but since

we all use oil of some kind for cooking, VCO is a very healthy choice. I'm just

not so sure about the so-called MCT oil. Perhaps if the two are mixed it's ok.

The thing that bothers me about this MCT oil, though, is the over stimulating

effect. Perhaps this is well suited to those who are very active physically

(like athletes) but it also kind of reminds me of some of the performance

enhancing drugs they often take that ultimately are not so healthy. I just don't

think we know enough about the long term effects of MCT oil to make a good

judgement as yet, whereas VCO has been used for centuries without ill effect. At

any rate I respect your right to make your own decisions and only weighed in on

this because of the questions regarding breast feeding and manufacturing

methods.

All the Best,

Dee

>

> Leah,

>

> I understand the sentiment about whole foods, but when we eat the coconut oil

by

> itselfÂ we are not eating the " whole food " .Â TrueÂ the coconutÂ is mildly

> processed, but processed/manufactured none-the-less as it the MCT oil.

>

> C.

>

> ________________________________

> From: Leah <wenandleah@...>

> Coconut Oil

> Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 11:11:44 AM

> Subject: Re: Breastfeeding & Coconut Oil/ MCT

>

> Â

>

> > You ask a very good question. The newer product called MCT oil is very

> >confusing because virgin coconut oil is also considered an MCT oil -

> >

>

> ---------

>

> Dee,

> thank you for your very helpful answer. I suspected this may be the case. I'm

> not really into engineered food. I figure God knew what He was doing when he

> made the healing foods in their whole forms.

>

> Thanks!

> Leah

>

July 9, 2011

" MCT oils " (caprylic and caproic acids) are well known to kill infection and

they are often also used in candida treatment.

They don;t always come from coconuts; this study used " MCT oil " derived from

beef tallow.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=15051845

MCT oil helps baby goats' brains so there's no reason to expect it not help

human babies' brains as well ...Maybe better than coconut oil, as mammalian

milk doesn't have as much lauric acid in it.

I would agree to go light on the lauric acid with the baby, as research

indications are that some hemolysis of cell walls occurs with lauric acid even

as it is being absorbed by the cells. It " cuts " the lipid-rich layer of cells

somewhat.

all good,

Duncan

> >

> > I have been consuming Coconut Oil during my pregnancy, and now have a

beautiful, healthy baby boy. I have been thinking of adding MCT oil to my diet.

I think it might help me with the 'baby brain' I have been experiencing. Does

anyone know if MCT oil is safe during breastfeeding?

> >

> > Thanks!

> >

>

July 9, 2011

Duncan,

That 1973 test tube experiment with Lauric Acid (not coconut oil) was thoroughly

debunked in an earlier discussion so why are you bringing it up once again????

And has anyone suggested feeding lauric acid BY ITSELF to a baby? No, of course

not. And as everyone knows by now, coconut oil has been added to infant formulas

for a long time due to testing on both animals and humans:

quote from Bruce Fife: " Both animal and human studies have shown MCT to be an

important component in mother's milk for the proper growth and development of

their offspring. For example, when pregnant and lactating pigs were fed diets

containing either long-chain fatty acids (vegetable oil) or medium-chain fatty

acids (coconut oil) there was a pronounced difference in the survival and growth

rates. The piglets whose mothers received the MCT grew faster and healthier and

had a survival rate of 68% compared to 32%. This was particularly true with

piglets which were born underweight.5

The same thing appears to happen in humans. For example, coconut oil was added

to the formula of 46 very low-birthweight babies to see if supplementation was

capable of enhancing their weight gain. The group with the coconut oil gained

weight quicker. The weight gain was due to physical growth and not fat storage.6

The babies gained more weight and grew better with the coconut oil because their

bodies were able to digest it easily. The vegetable oils, to a great extent,

passed through their digestive tracts undigested and thus deprived them of the

fat calories they needed for proper development. MCT not only allow infants to

absorb needed fats but they improve the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins,

minerals, and protein. " end quote

Note that the MCT in the above quote was from COCONUT OIL with the lauric acid

intact.

Dee

> I would agree to go light on the lauric acid with the baby, as research

indications are that some hemolysis of cell walls occurs with lauric acid even

as it is being absorbed by the cells. It " cuts " the lipid-rich layer of cells

somewhat.

>

July 9, 2011

Dee,

Yes, there was a stimulating affect for about a week and then it started

tapering off as my body adjusted.Â I am mixing it with VCO, I can't imagine

using MCT straight unless I needed some serious healing like from a surgery or

illness.

I don't mind the extra processing for the MCT, I buy the NOW brand of it and I

have been reasonably happy with the majority of their products.Â Most of my

dislike of a product they brandÂ has more to do with taste when it comes to some

of the foods they offer.

And as much as I would like to eat organic, there is very little of it I can

afford so I try to eat local veggies and fruits and I am doing a pretty good

job.Â I do buy organic eggs and a few other " whole foods " , but much comes from

the regular grocery store and the only real rule I have for processed food is no

more than 3 ingredients and I must recognize the 3 as real food or spice.Â

And every now and then I have a free meal and hit a fast food or something else

I rarely eat anymore but miss.

C.

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From: Dolores <dgk@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Sat, July 9, 2011 1:33:53 PM