Question

[Guest guest]

Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the

soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the

normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen.

Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and contamination

causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body. Anaerobic bacteria

cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are anaerobic bacteria

which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but they are not

disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal flora of the

skin and the bowel.

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they

are talking about.

>

> Here is a discussion on organic material in water.

>

> http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf

>

> Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by

chlorine dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with

organic material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things

and does not react with the other material in the water forming various

disinfecting by products.

>

> However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

>

> Here is a definition of what a biocide is.

>

> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide

>

> Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a

[Guest guest]

This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing

aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather

on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic

bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen.

Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for

respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe

bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to

lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available.

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/

Summary:

1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive.

2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids O2.

3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in the

cells.

4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled areas.

5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that need to

breathe and inhale oxygen to survive.

Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference

Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G

> >

> >

> > Hello Healinghope,

> >

> > I think we first have to look at organic material in water and see what they

are talking about.

> >

> > Here is a discussion on organic material in water.

> >

> > http://www.oup.com/uk/orc/bin/9780199274994/vanloon_ch12.pdf

> >

> > Carbon based material (organic material in water) is not chlorinated by

chlorine dioxide and in that matter it does not attach itself or react with

organic material. That makes it very selective. It only kills living things

and does not react with the other material in the water forming various

disinfecting by products.

> >

> > However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

> >

> > Here is a definition of what a biocide is.

> >

> > http://www.thefreedictionary.com/biocide

> >

> > Now, back to our original discussion... Is flora a

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

And I will point out that a biocide will kill both aerobic and anaerobic

bacteria...

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing

aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather

on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic

bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen.

>

> Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for

respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe

bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to

lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available.

>

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/

> Summary:

>

> 1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive.

> 2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids O2.

> 3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in

the cells.

> 4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled areas.

> 5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that need

to breathe and inhale oxygen to survive.

>

>

>

> Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference

Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of the

soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the

normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen.

> >

> > Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and

contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body.

Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are

anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but

they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal

flora of the skin and the bowel.

[Guest guest]

Tom That is the wonder of chlorine dioxide it is a oxidizing biocide.

Of the oxidizing biocides, chlorine dioxide is the most selective oxidant. Both

ozone and chlorine are much more reactive than chlorine dioxide, and they will

be consumed by most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide however, reacts only

with reduced sulphur compounds, secondary and tertiary amines, and some other

highly reduced and reactive organics. This allows much lower dosages of chlorine

dioxide to achieve a more stable residual than either chlorine or ozone.

Chlorine dioxide, generated properly (all chlorine dioxide is not created

equal), can be effectively used in much higher organic loading than either ozone

or chlorine because of its selectivity.

Read more:

http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm#ixzz1FGrgm27P

>

>

> Hello Healinghope,

>

> And I will point out that a biocide will kill both aerobic and anaerobic

bacteria...

>

> Tom

>

>

> --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> >

> > This can be understood by doing an experiment to identify them by growing

aerobic and anaerobic bacteria in a liquid culture. Aerobic bacteria will gather

on top to inhale most of the oxygen in order to survive, whereas anaerobic

bacteria will rather collect on the bottom to avoid the oxygen.

> >

> > Almost all animals and humans are obligate aerobes that require oxygen for

respiration, whereas anaerobic yeast is an example of facultative anaerobe

bacteria. Individual human cells are also facultative anaerobes: They switch to

lactic acid fermentation if oxygen is not available.

> >

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/

> > Summary:

> >

> > 1. Aerobic bacteria inhales oxygen to remain alive.

> > 2. Anaerobic bacteria dies in the presence of oxygen, and therefore avoids

O2.

> > 3. Aerobic respiration produces energy with the help of a complex process in

the cells.

> > 4. Anaerobic respiration produces crystals, and causes pain in muscled

areas.

> > 5. Humans and animals, and most fungi, etc are all obligate aerobes that

need to breathe and inhale oxygen to survive.

> >

> >

> >

> > Read more: Difference Between Aerobic and Anaerobic Bacteria | Difference

Between | Aerobic vs Anaerobic Bacteria

http://www.differencebetween.net/science/difference-between-aerobic-and-anaerobi\

c-bacteria/#ixzz1FGBVQ41G

> > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Aerobic bacteria are the friendly bacteria - the beneficial bacteria of

the soil, the earth, the water, the food and the body. Aerobic bacteria are the

normal flora of the body and cannot survive without the presence of oxygen.

> > >

> > > Anaerobic bacteria are the disease , infectious, putrefying and

contamination causing bacteria from the earth, water, food and the body.

Anaerobic bacteria cannot survive in the presence of oxygen. However, there are

anaerobic bacteria which can live in both aerobic and anaerobic conditions, but

they are not disease and infectious bacteria. They could be part of the normal

flora of the skin and the bowel.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Debbie,

Keep in mind that industrial cooling systems differ from the human body in that

the body's cooling system is designed to support and sustain life. The

industrial cooling system is not.

Tom

>

>

>

> However, from a biological perspective, chlorine dioxide is a very effective

biocide.

>

> Here is a definition of what a biocide is.e?

>

> ......................................

> I am not nor have I ever been very IN THE KNOW about science. BUT... I like

the WIKI explanation of a BIOCIDE:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biocide

>

> Biocides can be added to other materials (typically liquids) to protect them

against biological infestation and growth. For example, certain types of

quaternary ammonium compounds (quats) are added to pool water or industrial

water systems to act as an algicide, protecting the water from infestation and

growth of algae. It is often impractical to store and use poisonous chlorine gas

for water treatment, so alternative methods of adding chlorine are used. These

include hypochlorite solutions, which gradually release chlorine into the water,

and compounds like sodium dichloro-s-triazinetrione (dihydrate or anhydrous),

sometimes referred to as " dichlor " , and trichloro-s-triazinetrione, sometimes

referred to as " trichlor " . These compounds are stable while solids and may be

used in powdered, granular, or tablet form. When added in small amounts to pool

water or industrial water systems, the chlorine atoms hydrolyze from the rest of

the molecule forming hypochlorous acid (HOCl) which acts as a general biocide

killing germs, micro-organisms, algae, and so on. Halogenated hydantoin

compounds are also used as biocides.

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Healinghope,

Yes, chlorine dioxide only goes after and kills the living organisms in the

water. Since it doesn't react with the other materials, you can get by using

less.

Keep in mind that Lenntech is discussing using chlorine dioxide in water which

is different from the chlorous acid that mixing up a dose of MMS produces.

Lenntech offers chlorine dioxide generators that take sodium chlorite and an

acid and produce chlorine dioxide gas which is then injected into the water that

you are trying to disinfect. This process does not change the PH of the water.

In contrast, simply mixing an acid with sodium chlorite produces chlorous acid

with a PH of about 3.

These are two different technologies that are used in industry for different

things.

Tom

--- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...>

wrote:

>

> Tom That is the wonder of chlorine dioxide it is a oxidizing biocide.

> Of the oxidizing biocides, chlorine dioxide is the most selective oxidant.

Both ozone and chlorine are much more reactive than chlorine dioxide, and they

will be consumed by most organic compounds. Chlorine dioxide however, reacts

only with reduced sulphur compounds, secondary and tertiary amines, and some

other highly reduced and reactive organics. This allows much lower dosages of

chlorine dioxide to achieve a more stable residual than either chlorine or

ozone. Chlorine dioxide, generated properly (all chlorine dioxide is not created

equal), can be effectively used in much higher organic loading than either ozone

or chlorine because of its selectivity.

>

>

>

>

>

> Read more:

http://www.lenntech.com/library/clo2/chlorine-dioxide.htm#ixzz1FGrgm27P

>

[Guest guest]

I have been on xolair for 11months, but my ? Is not about xolair. I assume a lot

of us on this group have breathing issues. I have been on nighttime oxygen for a

year. I am flying for the 1st time since oxygen on the 14th. I have been making

calls to get the right forms filled out for flying and transporting a portable

concentrator. Well my doctor called today and wants me to do a altitude

stimulation test at the hospital tomorrow?? Any ideas what I got myself into

now? Any responses would be appreciated.

Tricia

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[Guest guest]

well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down

frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was

getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel

the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will

get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and

scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like

I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist?

Humbling, isn't it..................sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

also, my node was painful for some time, now it's not...so some good news for

the day! sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it even a

little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it. Yes I read

they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I hope I don’t

I get anymore.

As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to say yes

because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I am having

some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get better.

Humbling? NO just determined J))

Are you noticing anything since your IV’s?

Hugs

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

mannasal@...

Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM

rheumatic

Subject: Re: rheumatic question

well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches down

frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For awhile, it was

getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and definately feel

the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra, about 20% people will

get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go away?? It is sad and scarey

watching the body change....bones in leg have buckled? and I look like I'm knock

kneed and other bones don't look or feel right. Can they untwist?

Humbling, isn't it..................sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue,

From experience with those RA cysts (in my case from RA), I've had one

rather large one removed from my elbow a few yrs ago and one on the base of my

big toe. Neither hurt expect the one on the toe had pressure from any shoes

I wore, so I guess you could say it did hurt in that way. I was so happy

to have them removed and GONE! One less sign of the RA. Now I've got a

couple on the inside of two fingers, not noticeable at all, except I will have

them removed soon for " me " . I guess it just depends on how much they annoy

you, etc.

Again, this just shows how each one of us is different and you need to go

with how you feel about it.

just my story

Judy

In a message dated 3/17/2011 7:52:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

semrick@... writes:

I have two large synovial cysts on my wrists, they don't hurt but look

awful...not that I really care but you know my kids are at that age where they

get embarrassed easily. I feel bad I'm their mother and I'm hunched over,

hobbling and my hands are a mess....I think people think I'm their

grandmother not mother. Anywho that's beside the point, I'm just wondering if

those

go away on their own? My rheumy wants me to have surgery and I just don't

want to go there.

Thanks,

Sue

---- Eva Holloway <_holloway-eva@..._

(mailto:holloway-eva@...) > wrote:

> Sally, Cooky

>

> since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice

that my " dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have a

real big one on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules

were the first one to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and

they thought it was some kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it

was RA and I could get into remission with antibiotic I would have started

then.

> I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium

to get into the bones.

> Eva

>

>

>

> From: Cooky Stonkey <_cookee1@..._ (mailto:cookee1@...) >

> Subject: RE: rheumatic question

> _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:05 PM

>

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>

>

> Sally, how long have you had this? Mine is still painful if I push on it

even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it.

Yes I read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I

hope I don’t I get anymore.

>

>

>

> As for your bones. I’m not sure if they will straighten out. I want to

say yes because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I

am having some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to get

better. Humbling? NO just determined J))

>

>

>

> Are you noticing anything since your IV’s?

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>

> Hugs

>

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> cooky

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> From: _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

[mailto:_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic ) ] On

Behalf Of _mannasal@..._ (mailto:mannasal@...)

>

> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 4:46 PM

>

> _rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

>

> Subject: Re: rheumatic question

>

>

>

> well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches

down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For

awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size and

definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra,

about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go

away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have

buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or feel

right. Can they untwist?

>

> Humbling, isn't it..................sally

>

>

>

> rheumatic question

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

>

> I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks

in

>

> BUT..

>

>

>

> I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first

little

>

> joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a

place

>

> where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a

big

>

> one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

>

> gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

>

>

>

> I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid

node

>

> and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

>

> freaked out.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

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> cooky

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[Guest guest]

I have cysts on both my wrist also....wasn't sure what they were. Also wonder

if they go away on there own. For only 4 1/2 yrs RA, it seems quite aggressive.

It must be difficult to be raising children with these diseases.....and it seems

most of you have a good sense of humor. If it wasn't so sad, it is quite funny!

Gads, all I had was 1 plant to take care of, but gave it to a friend because it

was too much for me! 2 (of 4) sisters coming to visit tomorrow.....well we do

visit, but they mainly do house/yard chores for me. A Blessing indeed, sally

rheumatic question

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

>

> I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

>

> BUT..

>

>

>

> I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

>

> joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

>

> where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

>

> one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

>

> gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

>

>

>

> I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

>

> and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

>

> freaked out.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> cooky

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue, why rhemy wants surgery on cysts? Are they/could be dangerous? sally

rheumatic question

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

>

> I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

>

> BUT..

>

>

>

> I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

>

> joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

>

> where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

>

> one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

>

> gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

>

>

>

> I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

>

> and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

>

> freaked out.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> cooky

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with you Judy " one less sign of RA GONE " I had even thought (my toes

have buckled) maybe they could break my toes to straighten out? My lst

operation from all this will be hip replacement. Maybe they could do it all

then....break the toes, remove the cysts, etc etc ..... " cosmetic surgery package

for RA " sally

rheumatic question

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

>

> I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks

in

>

> BUT..

>

>

>

> I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first

little

>

> joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a

place

>

> where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a

big

>

> one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

>

> gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

>

>

>

> I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid

node

>

> and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

>

> freaked out.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> cooky

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Judy...any idea why we get these cysts? sally

rheumatic question

>

>

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

>

>

> I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks

in

>

> BUT..

>

>

>

> I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first

little

>

> joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a

place

>

> where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a

big

>

> one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

>

> gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

>

>

>

> I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid

node

>

> and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

>

> freaked out.

>

>

>

> Thank you.

>

>

>

> cooky

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

He says, and it doesn't make sense to me, that where these cysts are they are

rubbing against my tendons and my tendons could rupture and then I'd have a real

problem.....lol like I don't have enough problems with damn RA anyway!!

---- mannasal@... wrote:

> Sue, why rhemy wants surgery on cysts? Are they/could be dangerous? sally

>

>

>

>

>

> rheumatic question

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi Everyone,

> >

> >

> >

> > I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

> >

> > BUT..

> >

> >

> >

> > I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

> >

> > joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

> >

> > where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

> >

> > one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

> >

> > gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

> >

> >

> >

> > I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

> >

> > and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

> >

> > freaked out.

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> >

> >

> > cooky

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

It is hard indeed!!! Oh I wish I had sisters to help me! Enjoy.

Sue

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> I have cysts on both my wrist also....wasn't sure what they were. Also wonder

if they go away on there own. For only 4 1/2 yrs RA, it seems quite aggressive.

It must be difficult to be raising children with these diseases.....and it seems

most of you have a good sense of humor. If it wasn't so sad, it is quite funny!

Gads, all I had was 1 plant to take care of, but gave it to a friend because it

was too much for me! 2 (of 4) sisters coming to visit tomorrow.....well we do

visit, but they mainly do house/yard chores for me. A Blessing indeed, sally

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Sally,

I've never gotten that far into it with the doctor. It's all part of the RA

and some people are more prone than others. I'm sure there's scientific

data out there, but all these yrs and checking everything out, I haven't

really touched that one.

Judy

In a message dated 3/17/2011 8:35:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mannasal@... writes:

Judy...any idea why we get these cysts? sally

-----Original Message-----

From: _Judkeels@..._ (mailto:Judkeels@...)

_rheumatic _ (mailto:rheumatic )

Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2011 6:57 pm

Subject: Re: rheumatic question

Hi Sue,

From experience with those RA cysts (in my case from RA), I've had one

rather large one removed from my elbow a few yrs ago and one on the base

of my

big toe. Neither hurt expect the one on the toe had pressure from any

shoes

I wore, so I guess you could say it did hurt in that way. I was so happy

to have them removed and GONE! One less sign of the RA. Now I've got a

couple on the inside of two fingers, not noticeable at all, except I will

have

them removed soon for " me " . I guess it just depends on how much they annoy

you, etc.

Again, this just shows how each one of us is different and you need to go

with how you feel about it.

just my story

Judy

In a message dated 3/17/2011 7:52:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

_semrick@..._ (mailto:semrick@...) writes:

I have two large synovial cysts on my wrists, they don't hurt but look

awful...not that I really care but you know my kids are at that age where

they

get embarrassed easily. I feel bad I'm their mother and I'm hunched over,

hobbling and my hands are a mess....I think people think I'm their

grandmother not mother. Anywho that's beside the point, I'm just wondering

if those

go away on their own? My rheumy wants me to have surgery and I just don't

want to go there.

Thanks,

Sue

---- Eva Holloway <__holloway-eva@..._

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> wrote:

> Sally, Cooky

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> since my RA and Dermatomyositis is going slowly into remission I notice

that my " dragon ridges " on my arms have decreases in size. I used to have

a

real big one on the back of my elbow, that also has shrunk . The nodules

were the first one to appear about 7 years ago, but I wasn't sick then and

they thought it was some kind of allergy, If I had only known then that it

was RA and I could get into remission with antibiotic I would have started

then.

> I am using Cal-Mag with Boron. Boron is supposed to help with Magnesium

to get into the bones.

> Eva

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> From: Cooky Stonkey <__cookee1@..._ (mailto:_cookee1@...)

_ (mailto:_cookee1@..._ (mailto:cookee1@...) ) >

> Subject: RE: rheumatic question

> __rheumatic _ (mailto:_rheumatic ) _

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> Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 4:05 PM

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even a little but last week I could not even let a blanket cross over it.

Yes I read they are sort of rare. I hope it will go away soon…better yet I

hope I don’t I get anymore.

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say yes because I have had fingers straighten and toes that did not. Now I

am having some (ankle knuckles and toes) that I don’t think are going to

get

better. Humbling? NO just determined J))

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> well Cookie, I can't help you, but unfortunately join you. A few inches

down frommy right elbow, I have a nodule about the size of a pea. For

awhile, it was getting smaller and softer, but now maintains the pea size

and

definately feel the bone (or whatever a nodule is??) I read that with Ra,

about 20% people will get them. So maybe after awhile on AP, these will go

away?? It is sad and scarey watching the body change....bones in leg have

buckled? and I look like I'm knock kneed and other bones don't look or

feel

right. Can they untwist?

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[Guest guest]

Hi Cookie,

the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my

arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been

without pain. Mine came way after I had RA.

It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing

dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot

of my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the

IV's said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a

maintenance of 900units every other week.

I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5

days IVs? sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Sally I did 5 days many times in the past. After each 5 day treatment( I did 5

days after 10 weeks of once a week) I would see a disappearance of a symptomatic

joint or something would feel better. I did not do anything different. That was

in 97. This time I am seeing nothing really getting better. I do not have major

pain in my rotator cuffs but I still not dare stretch too far. My fingers and

hands are OK but if I use them too much they will hurt…not like this past

summer. Hands are still swollen.

I feel really bad that you did not have an “OHmy goodness no pain in-----â€.

I am hoping that you feel a lot better soon. Has any swelling gone?

Hugs

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

mannasal@...

Hi Cookie,

the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my

arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been

without pain. Mine came way after I had RA.

It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing

dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot of

my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the IV's

said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a

maintenance of 900units every other week.

I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5

days IVs? sally

[Guest guest]

I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way.

I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband

fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do

PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT.

Eva

From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...>

Subject: RE: rheumatic question

rheumatic

Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 3:24 PM

 

Sally I did 5 days many times in the past. After each 5 day treatment( I

did 5 days after 10 weeks of once a week) I would see a disappearance of a

symptomatic joint or something would feel better. I did not do anything

different. That was in 97. This time I am seeing nothing really getting better.

I do not have major pain in my rotator cuffs but I still not dare stretch too

far. My fingers and hands are OK but if I use them too much they will hurt…not

like this past summer. Hands are still swollen.

I feel really bad that you did not have an “OHmy goodness no pain in-----â€.

I am hoping that you feel a lot better soon. Has any swelling gone?

Hugs

cooky

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

mannasal@...

Hi Cookie,

the nodule below my elbow was very painful when I would put any weight on it (my

arm) Lately, I notice it is not painful, but don't know how long it's been

without pain. Mine came way after I had RA.

It is now 2 weeks from my 5 day IV. I perhaps feel a little better, but nothing

dramatic. My hands, wrists, left foot and knee are pretty bad. And then a lot of

my focus is on my right hip that is real painful. The home care who did the IV's

said the people they work with here doing same thing, they now are on a

maintenance of 900units every other week.

I don't know what to do, if anything.....any feedback from those who have done 5

days IVs? sally

[Guest guest]

Thanks Eva…does it smell?

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

Eva Holloway

I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way.

I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband

fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do

PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT.

Eva

[Guest guest]

no just a very light scent but goes away in a few minutes.

Eva

From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...>

Subject: RE: rheumatic question

rheumatic

Date: Friday, March 18, 2011, 4:37 PM

 

Thanks Eva…does it smell?

From: rheumatic [mailto:rheumatic ] On Behalf Of

Eva Holloway

I found that Blue-Emu helps a lot with the pain, a little of it goes a long way.

I ordered the last time from amazon.com. Try it and see if it helps. My husband

fell against a door and hurt his arm real bad, after surgery when he had to do

PT he used the Blue-Emu before he went to the PT.

Eva

[Guest guest]

Hi Cooky: 

I've had RA since April 2007.  At first I had 3-4 nodules along the underside

of

one arm (from elbow to wrist). I looked this up on Web MD and learned they are a

sign that one does have RA and are indicative of inflammation.  The nodules

were

hard and slighly painful to the touch.  However, they did eventually go away. 

Once in a while I can feel one on my elbows but it only lasts a day or two.

Diane

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From: Cooky Stonkey <cookee1@...>

rheumatic <rheumatic >

Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 4:24:11 PM

Subject: rheumatic question

 

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky

[Guest guest]

Hello Diane,

are you in remission with RA? Taking AP? best of health to you, sally

rheumatic question

Hi Everyone,

I know in my heart and subconscious that this will go away when AP kicks in

BUT..

I developed a bean size ? node that is painful to touch on the first little

joint of my big toe about 2 or so weeks ago. Thank goodness it is in a place

where it does not touch my shoe and I can walk. I had what I thot was a big

one( but it had no pain) on the top of my hand in 1998 and it went away

gradually. This one on my toe is getting a little flatter and bigger.

I just need some reassurance from someone who also has had a rheumatoid node

and it went away. Also tell me if you used anything on it. I am kinda

freaked out.

Thank you.

cooky