Re: Omega 3 Deficiency Aggravated by High CNOil Dose?

[Guest guest]

I take high daily doses of both coconut oil and omega 3 fish oil. I

hqave dry patches of dry flakey skin on scalp and face along my jaw

line in my beard. But my dry skin is related to oxalate dumping.

Keeping to a low oxalate diet minimizes the problem. Using traumeel

homeopathic ointment make for less flakiness and less itchiness.

Alobar

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:40 PM, ph R. <cubbycat@...> wrote:

> I have chronic eczema on scalp, and I feel my moods could use improving, dry

skin, and other things that could be Omega 3 related. I haven't taken fish or

flax oil in years because it used to cause worsening eczema, but I've taken lots

of coconut oil. Could my high doses of coconut oil [3 to 4 TBS daily] be

preventing me from absorbing Omega 3 fats? I noticed the CNOil seems to have

small amounts of Omega 6 fat, and no Omega 3.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

Joe,

I have an old Danish friend, now 53 who has suffered all his life

with severe psoriasis and a whole bunch of other stuff, heart burn,

the runs, back pains and so on.. I convinced him to just try an LCHF

diet and now just 2 weeks later he is enjoying a much improved

situation. It is my conviction that a radical reduction of

carbohydrates in combination with an increase of natural fats and

proportional protein is the solution for many of our modern day

ailments. I base this opinion on logic and experience, after all, as

hunter gatherers we didn't have access to Cheerios, coke , bread,

rice, potato, sugar or anything like that - and on a scale

'agriculture' has only been around since 1 minute to midnight, and

factory food just a couple of seconds ago. Yet we have an increasing

plethora of morbid obesity - go figure.

IMO you can't eat carbos whilst trying to boost with Omega 3, or

coconut oil. Well, I can't anyway. To get the benefits of VCO and 'Cod

liver oil' and the other good fats as a diabetic I need to cut the

carbs right down. For me it's like cheating and just cancels out the

benefits.

I'm off my daily150 units insulin per day since 3 years and down to

160 lbs from 220, my arthritis is gone, my headaches too, I have had

chronic other problems but now at age 65 they're all gone and I am

full of life again.

Your mail is a hard one to answer, mt suggestion nevertheless is to

cur out carbohydrates entirely for a few weeks - see what happens half

way through.

I can guide you if you if you like - on or off list.

Best wishes

2010/11/15 ph R. <cubbycat@...>:

> I have chronic eczema on scalp, and I feel my moods could use improving, dry

skin, and other things that could be Omega 3 related. I haven't taken fish or

flax oil in years because it used to cause worsening eczema, but I've taken lots

of coconut oil. Could my high doses of coconut oil [3 to 4 TBS daily] be

preventing me from absorbing Omega 3 fats? I noticed the CNOil seems to have

small amounts of Omega 6 fat, and no Omega 3.

>

> Joe

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Eczema is fungal. I would stop all sugars, potatoes, corn, peanuts, grains.

Head & Shoulders shampoo is anti-fungal. Oregano and orange oil are the highest

anti-fungal essential oils. Coconut oils is anti-fungal.

Deb

>

> I have chronic eczema on scalp, and I feel my moods could use improving, dry

skin, and other things that could be Omega 3 related. I haven't taken fish or

flax oil in years because it used to cause worsening eczema, but I've taken lots

of coconut oil. Could my high doses of coconut oil [3 to 4 TBS daily] be

preventing me from absorbing Omega 3 fats? I noticed the CNOil seems to have

small amounts of Omega 6 fat, and no Omega 3.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

Eczema *can be* fungal, but is not necessarily fungal. My eczema is

caused by my body dumping dietary oxalates. I suspect there are many

reasons for getting eczema. For me, Head and Shoulders shampoo is

toxic crap which gave me severe allergic reactions. See ingredients

here:

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id=1600\

3413.

Alobar

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 6:02 AM, adrianamsler <stubbiegirl@...> wrote:

> Eczema is fungal.  I would stop all sugars, potatoes, corn, peanuts, grains.

 Head & Shoulders shampoo is anti-fungal.  Oregano and orange oil are the

highest anti-fungal essential oils.  Coconut oils is anti-fungal.

> Deb

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> I take high daily doses of both coconut oil and omega 3 fish oil. I

> hqave dry patches of dry flakey skin on scalp and face along my jaw

> line in my beard. But my dry skin is related to oxalate dumping.

> Keeping to a low oxalate diet minimizes the problem. Using traumeel

> homeopathic ointment make for less flakiness and less itchiness.

>

> Alobar

>

**************************

Hi,

Interesting. How did you learn it's oxalates that caused this problem?

I'm sure I'm Omega 3 deficient from a Genova NutrEval test I had a couple years

back. I'm not saying it may involve oxalates as well.

Joe

[Guest guest]

>

> Joe,

>

> I have an old Danish friend, now 53 who has suffered all his life

> with severe psoriasis and a whole bunch of other stuff, heart burn,

> the runs, back pains and so on.. I convinced him to just try an LCHF

> diet and now just 2 weeks later he is enjoying a much improved

> situation. It is my conviction that a radical reduction of

> carbohydrates in combination with an increase of natural fats and

> proportional protein is the solution for many of our modern day

> ailments. I base this opinion on logic and experience, after all, as

> hunter gatherers we didn't have access to Cheerios, coke , bread,

> rice, potato, sugar or anything like that - and on a scale

> 'agriculture' has only been around since 1 minute to midnight, and

> factory food just a couple of seconds ago. Yet we have an increasing

> plethora of morbid obesity - go figure.

>

> IMO you can't eat carbos whilst trying to boost with Omega 3, or

> coconut oil. Well, I can't anyway. To get the benefits of VCO and 'Cod

> liver oil' and the other good fats as a diabetic I need to cut the

> carbs right down. For me it's like cheating and just cancels out the

> benefits.

>

> I'm off my daily150 units insulin per day since 3 years and down to

> 160 lbs from 220, my arthritis is gone, my headaches too, I have had

> chronic other problems but now at age 65 they're all gone and I am

> full of life again.

>

> Your mail is a hard one to answer, mt suggestion nevertheless is to

> cur out carbohydrates entirely for a few weeks - see what happens half

> way through.

>

> I can guide you if you if you like - on or off list.

>

> Best wishes

>

>

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Hi,

Interesting what you say about carbs. Before I got on VCO, I could only eat 1 or

maybe 2 pieces of fruit daily, but after VCO about 10 years ago, I can eat fruit

all day if I want to, and it *may* be the cause of my eczema for all I know.

I have a long standing GI dysbiosis and have been chelating mercury from 18

fillings I once had using ALA [alpha lipoic acid] for the last 1.5 years, with

about 1 - 1.5 years to go. For all I know the dysbiosis is caused more by grain

than mercury.

I recently went back on the Pro Vita! Plan way of eating, and I feel better on

it. My back was bothering me again, even though I had not reinjured it, and

chiropractors did little good. A week into the PV Plan, my back started to feel

more stable, and is improving even now, 2 months into it. Pro Vita! is proper

food combining, with low stress proteins for breakfast and possibly lunch, and

never after 2 PM, with many low starch veggies, sprouts, soaked seeds, and good

oils. He touts canola, grapeseed, sesame, EVOO and other oils, but I do my thing

with VCO and a little EVOO. I now have better metal clarity and sustained energy

with PV Plan. The amino acids deliver to the cells throughout the day to provide

fuel for energy. I've lost about 10 pounds on it, because I've been eating 2 PV

protein meals daily and I think it increases my metabolism a lot, plus low carb

isn't going to deposit fat on me anywhere, and I'm more active and am burning

off the calories... At 6' tall, I only weigh about 160 right now. I'm thin but

it doesn't bother me much if I'm going to feel best at this weight with this way

of eating.

I could get by and still feel well on just one PV meal for breakfast and eat CC

[complex carb] at lunch and supper. When proteins are eaten with starches, the

starch is digested and the protein rots in the GI tract and feeds bad bacteria,

the PV book says. I ate that way for years, stubbornly refusing to food combine

and I ate pasta with beef, pizza, drank milk with meals, eggs on toast, meat &

potatoes, and other palate pleasing meals, mostly organic, but not combined

right, until my back warned me that if I kept on this way I'd be looking to use

a cane to walk with in the not too distant future as well as a back brace. I'm

59.

I'm not sure if potatoes, rice, Ezekiel bread, etc., are bad for me, but they

*may* be. The SCDiet from the book " Breaking The Vicious Cycle " recommends no

potato or grains, and is built around meats, vegetables, most fruit, most

legumes, nuts, seeds, and fermented dairy like cheese & yogurt, and has done

wonders for many with GI tract issues. I'm not sure if I need to resort to this

or not. The PV plan may be a very good way for me to eat. when you food combine

you tend to clean up a lot of gunk in the GI tract. It may take 6 to 12 months.

I may combine the PV plan with the SCDiet and not eat grain any more at all, but

eat fruit. According to SCDiet, fruit is healthy and the body can digest it

well, but not grain or potatoes. I have no intentions of abandoning the PV plan.

It's given this 59 YO body new energy that I thought I'd never see again. So, I

need to build my diet from that. Grain and potatoes are definitely not

necessary. I could have a plate of beans for lunch and supper with winter squash

or tomatoes with mushrooms.

I'm trying one Wild Salmon oil capsule a day with breakfast, and I took 1 TBS of

fresh ground organic flax seed today also. I'm going to see if I can slowly

improve my Omega 3/6 ratio. We need to really watch what we eat to do so. Omega

6s are nearly everywhere. If we eat dairy, it should be non fat dairy unless

it's from grass fed cows, (and that is not available around here). Commercial

and even organic dairy is going to be from soy and corn fed cows and high in

Omega 6 fats. Soaked sunflower and sesame seeds may be healthy but they're also

high in Omega 6 fats so it's a Catch 22 situation. Corn is naturally low in

pesticides but high in Omega 6, and if you need more Omega 3, I don't think

eating corn is going to help anything so it too should be avoided.

Yeah, I'm willing to restrict my diet in these ways in order to benefit from

Omega 3 oils. I'm going to refresh my memory on just what foods are allowed on

SCDiet and follow that again. I'll still be able to eat LOTS of fruits,

vegetables, most meats, cheeses, yogurt, legumes, so I should have plenty to

eat. There are more important things that putting on weight by eating foods like

rice and corn.

Joe

[Guest guest]

>

> Eczema is fungal. I would stop all sugars, potatoes, corn, peanuts, grains.

Head & Shoulders shampoo is anti-fungal. Oregano and orange oil are the highest

anti-fungal essential oils. Coconut oils is anti-fungal.

> Deb

>

>

>

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I may do that on the SCDiet.

I take 6 drops of GSE 2x daily in water. GSE is a fine antifungal product. I've

taken Oregano oil but I hate the taste of it.

Joe

[Guest guest]

* Hi, Joe...please, what is GSE?

* Taffy

*

* I take 6 drops of GSE 2x daily in water. GSE is a fine antifungal

product. I've taken Oregano oil but I hate the taste of it.

Joe

[Guest guest]

Back in 2001 I was diagnosed with diabetes. I started eating a lot

more veggies, including lots of spinach. I started getting ferocious

leg cramping. I talked to the doc about whether leg cramping was a

side effect of the diabetic medicine or was connected to neuropathy.

She said neither. So I began exploring on the internet.

I stumbled upon sulfurstories and later

sulfurstories/. In the process of gong

on a low oxalte diet, I discovered that oxalate dumping occurs in many

parts of the human body as the body attempts to shed oxalates from

tissues. How my body dumps is somewhat seasonal. In summer I get

lots of prickly heat, skin rashes, etc. Soaks in epsom salt cool

baths helps some, but diet changes and supplements is what really

helped me.

Some people develop a leaky gut where lots and lots of dietary oxalate

gets from the intestine into the blood. People can develop a leaky

gut from being exposed to lots of antibiotics, or because they are on

the autistic spectrum.

Once I realized I had a leaky gut, I began to explore Asperger's

syndrome & realized I am in the spectrum somewhere (not officially

diagnosed).

Being on the oxalate diet, I had to give up a lot f my favorite foods,

like chocolate, spinach, pistachio nuts, and cayenne pepper. But it

has been worth it for me.

The trick is to *slowly* decrease oxalate intake, so the dumping is

not too severe.

Being on Trying_Low_Oxalates/ has

really helped me understand what is going on. The list is only

accessable by writing to the list owner and asing to be on. Mention

your symptoms and that Alobar suggested you look into the list.

Alobar.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM, joe525us <cubbycat@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>

>> I take high daily doses of both coconut oil and omega 3 fish oil.  I

>> hqave dry patches of dry flakey skin on scalp and face along my jaw

>> line in my beard.   But my dry skin is related to oxalate dumping.

>> Keeping to a low oxalate diet minimizes the problem.   Using traumeel

>> homeopathic ointment make for less flakiness and less itchiness.

>>

>> Alobar

>>

> **************************

>

> Hi,

>

> Interesting. How did you learn it's oxalates that caused this problem?

>

> I'm sure I'm Omega 3 deficient from a Genova NutrEval test I had a couple

years back. I'm not saying it may involve oxalates as well.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alobar,

The only food in the foods you mentioned that I take is cayenne pepper. I very

seldom eat spinach and haven't had chocolate in decades.

Thanks for the info. I will keep it in mind.

Joe

[Guest guest]

>

> Eczema *can be* fungal, but is not necessarily fungal. My eczema is

> caused by my body dumping dietary oxalates. I suspect there are many

> reasons for getting eczema. For me, Head and Shoulders shampoo is

> toxic crap which gave me severe allergic reactions. See ingredients

> here:

>

http://householdproducts.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands & id=1600\

3413.

>

> Alobar

>

> O

I have to agree with you on Head & Shoulders shampoo. I used to use that toxic

stuff (Prell, etc.) way back in the early 80s and before but moved to natural

soaps and shampoos. I now wash my hair with soaps like Dr Bronner's Lavender bar

soap or Kiss My Face brand Olive Oil soap.

Joe

[Guest guest]

Hi,

GSE = grapefruit seed extract

Joe

[Guest guest]

Those are the foods which I used to love. Plenty of other high

oxalate foods around. Here is an alphabetical listing of oxalates in

foods.

http://www.lowoxalate.info/food_lists/alph_lod_food_chart.pdf

Alobar

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 1:27 PM, ph R. <cubbycat@...> wrote:

> Hi Alobar,

>

> The only food in the foods you mentioned that I take is cayenne pepper. I very

seldom eat spinach and haven't had chocolate in decades.

>

> Thanks for the info. I will keep it in mind.

>

> Joe

>

>

[Guest guest]

Some cases of eczema are fungal. Some cases caused by allergens.

I have seen eczema cure with topical applications of lugol's iodine.

It can cure some cases of psoriasis topically too. Put it on. After the skin

dries out peel it off. It may be required several times a day. I can be painful

but it does work.

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> >

> > I have chronic eczema on scalp, and I feel my moods could use improving, dry

skin, and other things that could be Omega 3 related. I haven't taken fish or

flax oil in years because it used to cause worsening eczema, but I've taken lots

of coconut oil. Could my high doses of coconut oil [3 to 4 TBS daily] be

preventing me from absorbing Omega 3 fats? I noticed the CNOil seems to have

small amounts of Omega 6 fat, and no Omega 3.

> >

> > Joe

> >

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Those are the foods which I used to love. Plenty of other high

> oxalate foods around. Here is an alphabetical listing of oxalates in

> foods.

>

> http://www.lowoxalate.info/food_lists/alph_lod_food_chart.pdf

>

> Alobar

>

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Interesting list. I definitely get plenty of those foods. Can high oxylates

cause other issues besides Eczema? Maybe I need to look into this more.

Joe

[Guest guest]

Oxalates can cause (or make worse) bursitis, arthritis, muscle

cramping, renal stones, and a host of other problems.

Alobar

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 4:30 PM, ph R. <cubbycat@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>>

>> Those are the foods which I used to love.  Plenty of other high

>> oxalate foods around.  Here is an alphabetical listing of oxalates in

>> foods.

>>

>> http://www.lowoxalate.info/food_lists/alph_lod_food_chart.pdf

>>

>> Alobar

>>

> ____________

>

> Interesting list. I definitely get plenty of those foods. Can high oxylates

cause other issues besides Eczema? Maybe I need to look into this more.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Please tell me what LCHF diet stands for. I'd say it's low carb / high

something.

GFCF is another one that I'm unsure of, that I think might be Gluten Free /

Caffeine free.

Thanks.

Joe