Re: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot Find?

[Guest guest]

 the supplements will only get worse because all businesses want to grow

and supplement companies as well as pharmaceudical companies will grow

through

any means of manipulative marketing.  So I am opting out as much as possible

and

putting my money where my mouth is and that is the soil of this Earth-Kiss the

Dirt expression.  All food arises out of the Earth which includes the water and

air.  For those of you who choose to do so, take your supplements knowing at

best you will become a supplement junkie or addict and will not be able to

function or live without them.  You will defend them the same way and alcoholic

defends his alcohol or the gluten addict, pasturized dairy addict or sugar

addict.  Supplement theory creates a co-dependency relationship at best

so you

become both physiologically addicted or emotionally invested in them.  If you

are a health practitioner you are at risk of becoming financially dependent

on the sale of supplements.  It has taken me years to break such an addiction

and a financial hit.  I'm am diverting my energy to defend Mother Nature as

much

as I can.   I hold my idealisms in my minds eye while live practical along the

way-I refer to this as Living Primal: Loving Spirit. getting back to animal

instincts and spiritual intuition.  Pottenger's Cat Study really says it all

here because the cats that thrived didn't receive any supplements just fresh raw

food.    All the tribes and villages that Price studies didn't have any

supplements.  Supplements are attempting to patch modern civilized life that

is

actually more uncivilized than ever before. 

I think Bernard Jensen lived a powerful vision unfortunately he valued and

taught a more vegetarian life style thus he still had the need to

suggest some supplements. 

Here is an analogy to follow:  1% of the people own and manage 99% of the

wealth.  Why?  Because they know and do things that are way outside of the

normal way of doing business.   Less than 1% of all athletic people make it to

being an Olympic Gold Medalist.  Why?  Becaues they know and do things in a

certain way that are way outside the normal way of doing fitness and

performance.  For those who create there health and healing miracles they know

and do things in a certain way that is way outside what is mainstream or

normal.  That said optimal health will require doing things that 99% of others

are not doing!  Take your supplements and your cooked and processed foods and 

you will never make into that 1% of optimal health and healing.  You will get

the silver or the bronze but not the Gold.    

Go for the Gold !

Dan

Do The C.U.R.E

 

 

 

________________________________

From: Atwood <naturespharma@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 12:20:30 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot

Find?

Hi Dan:

I could not agree more,  and the proof remains evident with the many miraculous

cures from cancer and other devastating disorders. Also, your suggestion that it

takes a concerted deal of mental/emotional and spiritual healing to regain our

health is right on.

I'm just now reading an incredible book that deals with the emotional aspects of

Asthma, and details wonderful techniques, and testimonies of people now cured by

using a certain type of imagery. Anyone with Asthma should read this book more

than once. " Asthma Free in 21 days, by Shaefer, Ph.D

I truly believe that supplementation to the degree that it is now advocated, 

and the draw of practitioners, and other non certified suppliers to make mega

bucks selling them, is a serious problems, and does not fall within the laws of

nature, which if abused will only bring on bad consequences/karma in all area's

of our life. One of my favorite quotes is by Bernard Jensen who stated these now

very famous words below.

" No therapy or drug known to modern medical science can rebuild tissue

that has been damaged by disease or trauma. Food alone can accomplish

this feat. It is for this reason that nutrition is an indispensable

weapon against disease " .

Dr. Bernard Jensen (1908-2001)

Best -

From: Hegerich <heg1965@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-

If you believe you need supplements you will find evidence for that belief.  I

believe it is best for optimal human health to use food as medicine and it can

be done.  Therefore, there is evidence that this is possible.  If someone is

low

in glutithione their whole biochemistry is off.  Raising glutithione alone

will

not replace magnesium deficiency nor will it pull mercury from deep tissue

storage in the brain, nerves and glands.  If you don't know, I had terminal

cancer 6X even cancer of my bones.  I followed the fundtional medical approach

including Nutri Spec testing, Metabolic Typing, etc...and they all perscribed

plenty of supplements.

[Guest guest]

Thanks , as big a fan as I am of Weston Price Fdn, I was unaware

of that.

Jim

On 12/1/2010 12:48 PM, Atwood wrote:

>

> Hi Jim:

> There are many people who are now living pretty much from local and

> other farm sources. Raw milk, and many other foods like grass fed

> beef, pastured chickens, good high quality eggs etc. are now

> available. The Weston A Price Foundation puts out a shoppers guide

> where all these foods can be ordered, and it only costs a $1.00.

>

> There are chapter meetings in every state and internationally. They

> will provide you with great sources of where to go in your area to get

> good unprocessed meats, dairy and other foods. The meetings are lots

> of free fun, free nutrient dense food and a ton of great information

> for the types of questions you are asking. I invite you to go to one

> of their meetings and get acquainted with how millions of us now enjoy

> those foods, and do not have a farm or cows in our backyard, but are

> gratefully enjoying the nutrient dense foods that will get you off

> most of the fake foods we are eating, and that includes the excessive

> amount of supplements that many are using due to the lack of knowledge

> about how to get these foods. Here the link to chapters through the US

> and Internationally. http://www.westonaprice.org/chapters/index.php

>

>

>

> From: Jim <huuman60@... <mailto:huuman60%40comcast.net>>

> Subject: Re: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-

>

> You beg the question as to how much it would actually cost to eat foods

> you absolutely know are free of negative components. I would think that

> you would need a farm to do that. How much does that cost a month? And

> what about in winter? Do you have two farms? How about a tropical farm

> also?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Likewise, if you do not believe in supplementation, you will find

evidence for that also.

Alobar

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Hegerich <heg1965@...> wrote:

> If you believe you need supplements you will find evidence for that belief.

[Guest guest]

Agreed and I do believe in medicinal teas and herbal tincture supplmentation

for

short periods and for certain individuals.  There are many more elements to

have

a well balanced whole life.  Food is but one small component.  I wrote the 7

major elements to optimal health and healing at www.dothecure.blogspot.com 

Enjoy,

Dan

Do The CURE

________________________________

From: Alobar <Alobar@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:18:45 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot

Find?

 

Likewise, if you do not believe in supplementation, you will find

evidence for that also.

Alobar

On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Hegerich <heg1965@...> wrote:

> If you believe you need supplements you will find evidence for that belief.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Duncan.  You probably influenced others to purchase more reduced

glutithione or un-denatured whey.   My statement was to make a point that each

health practitioner will have his/her favorite supplement or

miracle something.  I'm certain next year will unveil more super supplements

in

the nutritional game and the raw vegan community will discover next super duper

super food from the moon as the cure for everything.  

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:30:12 PM

Subject: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot Find?

 

With regard to this statement from Dan:

> Glutithione is now being replaced with Trans Resveratol as the

> leading 'longevity' nutrient. And at $70-$100 per month that is money in

> someone's pocket. Dr Hyman says you need 7 different supplements to

> raise

> glutithione levels.

Glutathione isn't now being replaced by any antioxidants, even resveratrol,

because if glutathione is low there is always disease regardless of the

availability of exogenous (from outside the cell) antioxidants.

In the research, just one supplement, not 7, was used to increase glutathione in

animals and humans. Dr. Hyman must have not read the updates on cold-extracted

whey protein.

Hey, I think I've saved you $70 this month

all good,

Duncan

[Guest guest]

Yes but it is reasonable to consider that you have an addiction or need for

validation outside of your own bodies innate wisdom.  Everything can become an

addiction-even knowledge. 

Have you put yourself on a knowledge fast?  I have and that was wounderful. 

I

spent almost 6 months in a tent to live with nature.  Wow it took 3 months

of struggle to let the world go.  Then I fell in love with ants, scorpions,

rattle snakes, hot springs and never tired of the sun rise or sun set.  It made

me realize the simplest healing is to dump the modern world completely including

the books.  I had personal experience with an addiction to supplements and the

search for science-I frankly became bored.  Organic life became a greater

interest to my whole self.  Additionally, working with indiviudals and having

them come in with all of their bags of supplements from their cabinets lead me

to believe that many sick people have become supplement junkies.  Most of them

I

tell them to throw them all out in order to work with me.  They pick up their

bags of supplements and walk out.   They usually eat tons of supplement meal

replacement bars etc...Now you are an intelligent person playing doctor and

experimenting.  You obvious love the game and play with gusto.  You apply your

reasoning and go for it.  That is terrific.  Most people are not into health

but

merely interested in getting out of a pickle.

I choose to just focus on food to nourish my body but also nourishment for my

mind and soul.  I feel more nourished when I play in my band for hundred of

people than any food could offer.  I feel super nourished facilitating healing

through conscious breathwork.  It is unconditional love and my heart is so full

of nourishment.  Food is such a small component of the bigger picture yet sucks

most peoples energy. 

the dialogue is great by the way.

Dan 

________________________________

From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:44:34 PM

Subject: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot Find?

 

Dan, where'd you learn this? Not from me

>For those of you who choose to do so, take your supplements knowing at

>best you will become a supplement junkie or addict and will not be able to

>function or live without them.

I do get a little uneasy when I renege on my promise to myself that I will

reliably supplement to address the common deficiencies in our food, but it's

because I know the research, not because of a psychological addiction.

Duncan

[Guest guest]

I agree with Bruce.  We are 70% fluids and require foods that have their

natural

liquids.  Dehydrating anything looses something.  Dehydrate a human at 118

degrees to preserve the enzymes then add water back in.  Will the body come

alive again? 

________________________________

From: calblonde1 <calblonde1@...>

Coconut Oil

Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 6:34:38 PM

Subject: Re: Cold Processed Whey Powder-Cannot Find?

 

Yes, the monumental work of Dr. Francis F. Pottenger, Jr,

of the Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation, showed the

value of a raw-protein diet. A pioneer in the field of

nutrition and advocate of raw milk, he showed the unhealthy

properties of cooked milk. Some of cooked protein Dr.

Pottenger used was dried milk powder.

I asked Dr. Bruce Fife about a powdered protein product

and he replied that he would never consume any product

that contains powdered whole milk, regardless of where

it comes from---cow, goat, or whatever. Powdered whole

milk contains oxidized unsaturated fats. Oxidized fats

are known to damaged artery walls and promote plaque buildup.

Theta

>

I'm am diverting my energy to defend Mother Nature as much

> as I can.   I hold my idealisms in my minds eye while live practical

along

>the

>

> way-I refer to this as Living Primal: Loving Spirit. getting back to animal

> instincts and spiritual intuition.  Pottenger's Cat Study really says it

all

> here because the cats that thrived didn't receive any supplements just fresh

>raw

>

> food.    All the tribes and villages that Price studies didn't have

any

> supplements.  Supplements are attempting to patch modern

civilized life that

>is

>

> actually more uncivilized than ever before. 

[Guest guest]

I agree... Duncan. This is far from a perfect world. Any improvement

to our lot that we have inherited is worth pursuing.

Jim

On 12/1/2010 5:44 PM, Duncan Crow wrote:

>

> Dan, where'd you learn this? Not from me

>

> >For those of you who choose to do so, take your supplements knowing at

> >best you will become a supplement junkie or addict and will not be

> able to

> >function or live without them.

>

> I do get a little uneasy when I renege on my promise to myself that I

> will reliably supplement to address the common deficiencies in our

> food, but it's because I know the research, not because of a

> psychological addiction.

>

> Duncan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Good stuff, Dan... Yes!

On 12/1/2010 6:01 PM, Hegerich wrote:

>

> Yes but it is reasonable to consider that you have an addiction or

> need for

> validation outside of your own bodies innate wisdom. Everything can

> become an

> addiction-even knowledge.

> Have you put yourself on a knowledge fast? I have and that was

> wounderful. I

> spent almost 6 months in a tent to live with nature. Wow it took 3

> months

> of struggle to let the world go. Then I fell in love with ants,

> scorpions,

> rattle snakes, hot springs and never tired of the sun rise or sun

> set. It made

> me realize the simplest healing is to dump the modern world completely

> including

> the books. I had personal experience with an addiction to supplements

> and the

> search for science-I frankly became bored. Organic life became a greater

> interest to my whole self. Additionally, working with indiviudals and

> having

> them come in with all of their bags of supplements from their cabinets

> lead me

> to believe that many sick people have become supplement junkies. Most

> of them I

> tell them to throw them all out in order to work with me. They pick

> up their

> bags of supplements and walk out. They usually eat tons of

> supplement meal

> replacement bars etc...Now you are an intelligent person playing

> doctor and

> experimenting. You obvious love the game and play with gusto. You

> apply your

> reasoning and go for it. That is terrific. Most people are not into

> health but

> merely interested in getting out of a pickle.

>

> I choose to just focus on food to nourish my body but also nourishment

> for my

> mind and soul. I feel more nourished when I play in my band for

> hundred of

> people than any food could offer. I feel super nourished facilitating

> healing

> through conscious breathwork. It is unconditional love and my heart

> is so full

> of nourishment. Food is such a small component of the bigger picture

> yet sucks

> most peoples energy.

>

> the dialogue is great by the way.

>

> Dan

>

> ________________________________

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@... <mailto:duncancrow%40>>

> Coconut Oil

> <mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 5:44:34 PM

> Subject: Re: Cold Processed Whey

> Powder-Cannot Find?

>

>

> Dan, where'd you learn this? Not from me

>

> >For those of you who choose to do so, take your supplements knowing at

> >best you will become a supplement junkie or addict and will not be

> able to

> >function or live without them.

>

> I do get a little uneasy when I renege on my promise to myself that I

> will

> reliably supplement to address the common deficiencies in our food,

> but it's

> because I know the research, not because of a psychological addiction.

>

> Duncan

>

>

[Guest guest]

How is the taste of the LifeSource whey protein?

> This is a protein powder I just ordered. Should arrive soon. Not sure if

> it meets your needs.

>

> http://www.bioactivenutrients.com/products/165

Wow thanks! But...

" Use the source, Luke... "

The price is lower, *and* you get twice as much:

http://www.lifesource4life.com/protein.html#supplement

[Guest guest]

On 2011-02-24 3:34 PM, Theta wrote:

> How is the taste of the LifeSource whey protein?

I'll let you know, just ordered mine today.

[Guest guest]

On 2011-02-24 4:32 PM, x21 wrote:

> I would like to start taking Whey Protein, but I found that it contains

> MSG. Does anyone know anything about this?

I guess some brands might, but most don't.... which one are you looking at?

[Guest guest]

I use ~65 grams of whey powder per day. So cost is a concern or mine.

Being diabetic, I try to minimize carbs as well. Unflavored whey

powder is not real pleasant for me, but half plain and half vanilla

makes it taste good while keeping carbs low. To me, whey tastes much

better when made with less water than recommended, adding inulin

powder for fiber, and adding heavy cream also. To save $$ I order NOW

brand whey protein isolate in 10 pound bags from Vitaglo.

Alobar

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:21 AM, skpounds14 <skpounds14@...> wrote:

> Here's my top 3 Cold-Processed Whey's after much researching. I don't like to

Mega-dose on Whey, 6-10 grams daily from it is enough for me.

>

> 1) True Protein - $9-10 per Pound

> http://www.trueprotein.com/Product_Details.aspx?cid=22 & pid=633

> [1 serving = 27 Grams Protein = 15 servings per pound. 13.5 grams per 1/2

serving, 9 grams 1/3 serving, 6.75 grams 1/4 serving]

>

> Some flavorings use Sucralose (Splenda) as a sweetener.

>

> How True Protein works

> http://66.147.240.153/~trueprot/showthread.php?t=6018

>

>

> (2) Jarrow Formulas Whey Protein Powder Vanilla - 2 lbs. - $18

> http://www.swansonvitamins.com/JR070/ItemDetail?n=0

> [1 serving = 17 Grams Protein = 34 servings, 68 servings at 8.5 Grams]

>

> " Ultrafiltered under low temperature to be low in fat, lactose and

carbohydrates. Fifty-one percent of the proteins found in whey are from BLG

(Beta-Lactoglobulin), 20% of whey is ALB (Alpha-Lactabumin), 10% Immunoglobulin,

10% Albumin, and 7% minor fractions (Beta-Microglobulin, lactoferrin,

lactoperoxidase, lysozyme, lactolin and relaxin). " (Fructose, Lo Han Guo

sweeteners)

>

>

> (3) Country Life, Biochem, Tri-Protein Plus Powder, Vanilla - 2 lbs - $23

> http://www.swansonvitamins.com/CRL328/ItemDetail?n=0

> [1 serving = 20 Grams Protein = 28 Servings, 56 servings at 10 Grams]

>

> " Ultra-Filtered /Micro-Filtered (UF/ML) Whey Protein Isolate - This special

technology using advanced low temperature microfiltration/ultrafiltration

processes yields a high quality, pure, highly concentrated whey protein isolate

leaving 99% of the peptides undamaged and undenatured. This process maintains

the microfractions, such as Immunoglobulins, alpha-Lactalbumin,

beta-Lactoglobulin, Lactoferrin, Serum Albumin and Glycomacropeptides which are

known to nutritionally support anabolic activity and protein digestion. "

> (Fructose, natural vanilla sweeteners)

>

>

>

> Virginia

>

>