Good Alcohol-conference policy

[Guest guest]

I want to weigh in, in support of the new LPA alcohol and drug policy posted

several days ago. I know the Conference Review Committee put a lot of time

and sweat equity into it and it shows, (including Marge Carlisle and Ron Piro.)

I think this, if we publicize it and enforce it, will set us on a new road.

And in terms of enforcement, I don't just mean when there's a big party or

hotel destruction, but also enforcing it at the dances, person by person. We've

never been really good or consistent at that. I volunteer to help (I will

email this year's conf. chair individually because this is not an LPA list ...)

Sincerely

Ruth Ricker

Past National president, LPA

Past National conference chair

Past Conference Review Committee chair

Current mother to impulsive 12 year old

[Guest guest]

As someone who used to underage drink decades ago...I like the policy too.

Back when we dared to drink...we really got into serious trouble...school

suspensions etc.

However, the schools and organizations we were with also didn't perform witch

hunts, hall patrols and all that. The polies were ONLY used if problems arised

such as tearing up hotel rooms, pulling smoke alarms, committing criminal

mayhem, or showing up at an event drunk. So I hope LPA also follows mature

enforcement. Don't go looking for an " example " to make your point.

Just a suggestion.

Karin Redston

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

I am all for this policy, I think it is great if it will be

enforced. I hope that no matter who will be in office after the

elections they will keep this policy.

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[Guest guest]

What??????????????

People go outside of the hotel to smoke and there are smoking

rooms, I had not heard smoking was banned because I see it all over

conferences. I think the alcohol policy is great and I don't feel

its a none or all issue. I am over 21 so I have every right to

drink, those under 21 whether they are responsible or not have NO

right to drink plain and simple, if they do then there are

consequences.

LPA conferences are within the United States which have laws, no one

at a conference is exempt from these laws. The problem I feel

aren't the policies of LPA but the parents of teenagers that attend

who think, hey they are in a hotel, I don't need to know what they

are doing or where they are. It seems some parents have laxed the

rules and inturn you get SOME drunk, high, teens running around.

I am usually up until 4 or 5 am, don't ask me why but I am not

running around drunk, I am usually chitchatting with friends.

I have no problem with teens up till the cows come home

socializing but there is NO reason they should be drinking.

I have absolutely no idea why this is even a debate or issue.

Just a rhetorical question to all, would you want you 16 year old

drinking? Do you allow it at home? If someone gave your child

alcohol wouldn't you want them to suffer consequences for that?

If its no then why should conferences be any different?

It is about time there is a policy which hopefully will be enforced,

if teens want to drink then they can wait like anyone else and when

they turn 21 then they can drink themselves into a stuper if they

want.

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> List,

>

> I have been here for a couple of years now, this list is

addicting, I

> know. But how can we argue or fight about something as serious as

alcohol.

> Do you really need it?

> All of you banned Smoking from LPA, and now no one can be

caught smoking

> a cigarette at a meeting, regional, national conference, but you

can get

> legally drunk at a function, that is permitted.

> What are we saying as mentors to the youth of LPA, no wonder

they're

> all screwed up. Think about the message you're sending people!!!!!

> I drink myself, so I'm as big a hypocrite as all of you, but

you're all

> having such a great time getting wasted, and then to tell the

kids, NO.

> I remember what it was like at 18, the laws were all different

in every

> state, and it wasn't common to see 13 to 16 yr olds dunk as skunks

in the

> ballrooms or hallways of the hotels.

> Now days most of these kids have friends who are going off to

Iraq or

> Afghanistan and never coming home. Sounds like the 60's and 70's

all over

> again.

> They can Vote, they are legally Adults! So telling them they

can not

> partake in having a social drink like the rest of us is

> hypocritical, unless you take the alcohol out of the picture all

together.

> You don't smoke, so you don't drink, and make it across the

board for

> all of us, or none of us, but not for the select few. Stop

discriminating

> smokers, because you are by allowing drinking at all functions.

Stopping the

> smoking and drinking altogether or bring back smoking, please,

because

> someone should be contacting some lawyers to see how

discriminating this

> ruling is about teasing and displaying drunken behavior infront of

children

> and young adults.

> I've known LP's who purposely dropped out because of their

alcohol

> problems that LPA helped nurture. Too many LP's have gone down

that road,

> and not come back.

> So when are we going to grow up and not have to get drunk to

have fun

> anymore, answer me that please. When is Alcohol going to be banned

at LPA

> functions????

> Cigarettes, Cigars, Pipes, illegal drugs have been banned, so

equal the

> ruling and ban alcohol, or are you all a bunch of alcoholics and

can't shake

> the monkey's off your backs???????

> Ban Alcohol PLEASE!!!! Or stop being hypocritical and wave 21

to 18 and

> older then!!!!! 21 isn't working, because they still get it at the

after

> hours parties upstairs in the private rooms. I hear about it so

too many

> times

> from your kids, it kills me to know that all of you think all this

banning

> is really working, but what a joke it really is.

> Ban the alcohol altogether and then if someone's drunk, well

then, you

> can deal with it. But singling out and punishing, it's

meaningless, and

> discriminating. Any lawyer would love this case to jump down on,

because

> you're not doing anything but frustrating the kids and what,

getting legally

> drunk then yourselves.

> That really is sending a mixed message. Ban Alcohol, or don't,

but don't

> put bans on things that you can not enforce, without

discriminating others

> in the process. I hate the idea of a dry function, because half

the crowd

> probably wouldn't show. But it takes the problems out of the

functions

> altogether, eliminating the need to discriminate, or uphold the

law. But not

> having a tease is the best thing, and then you have mentors who

are not

> sexually advancing on younger women, or slobbering all over one

another, or

> acting like buffoons infront of the Kids then. Get rid of alcohol

once and

> for all.

> And rather than seeing all of the flaming that is going to

commence, be

> constructive and give us all one single point on the benefits of

having

> alcohol in LPA or being legally

> drunk at a LPA function, rather than being angry, OK. I would

rather see

> that

> point being made than focusing all of your anger at me, please try

that

> instead.

> Thank you.

>

> RT