Re: Apartment rules and regulations?

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

It is possible that they can require this. What is legal depends on the answers

to several questions, including " When was the building built? " , " Did it use

public funds? " , " How many units does it have? " , and so on.

I would call your local Center for Independent Living (CIL) to get your answer.

Tara says that you live near Amarillo. There is a CIL in Amarillo and the

contact information for it is:

Panhandle Action CIL

Carl McMillen

1118 South Street

Amarillo, TX 79101

(806) 374-1400

TTY: (806) 374-2774

FAX: (806) 374-4550

EMAIL: advocacy@...

If that's not close to you, check out this page to find the one that is closest:

http://www.ilru.org/Directory/texas.html Whichever one you call will help you

determine what's legally required and what recourse you have if they are not

doing it.

Hillary

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" Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. "

Luther King, Jr.

> [Original Message]

> From: <Nickles629@...>

> <dwarfism >

> Date: 12/29/2004 6:53:35 PM

> Subject: Apartment rules and regulations?

>

>

> Hi all,

> I'm about to relocate to an apartment complex within about a week. There

> seems to be a problem, though. The apartment has controlled access, so it's

> sorta set up more like a hotel. You go in a main entrance, then you are inside

to

> go into your apartment. To get to my apartment you have to walk up about 5

> steps.. it's not much but... I have a scooter for going out to places that

> require lots of walking. I talked to them about having a ramp right there and

> they said that'd be up to me and out of my pocket.. and it has to be

temporary..

> and approved by the owners first. So my question is.. are they correct? Am I

> not able to require THEM to modify things? They said they'd lower my towel

> racks, and the rod in my closet and my door handles and they'd cover that..

> but not the ramp.

>

> Thanks,

> Amy

[Guest guest]

Your best option is the 1988 fair housing act. It specificaly

provides for " resonable accomodation " . If the ramp you need does

NOT put undue financial hardship on your landlord they are obligated

to provide it for you. You must send a letter to your landlord

asking for the accomodation and stating why it will provide

you " enjoyable " use of your home. I have sample letters if you need

them. Many other sample letters are available on the web. If you

write a " request for Accomodation " you can put a deadline on it such

as 10 days. This is recommebnded by the US Department of Justice.

If they do not respond you can file complaits with many agencies.

I.e. DOJ, HUD, EEOC. You can easisy get there undivided attention

if you want.

Do a google search " Reasonable accomodation in housing " and you will

see lots of great leverage to help get what you need.

If the ramp is VERY expensive in relation to the total revenue

generated by your building then it will be a difficult uphill battle.

> Hi all,

> I'm about to relocate to an apartment complex within about a week.

There

> seems to be a problem, though. The apartment has controlled

access, so it's

> sorta set up more like a hotel. You go in a main entrance, then

you are inside to

> go into your apartment. To get to my apartment you have to walk up

about 5

> steps.. it's not much but... I have a scooter for going out to

places that

> require lots of walking. I talked to them about having a ramp

right there and

> they said that'd be up to me and out of my pocket.. and it has to

be temporary..

> and approved by the owners first. So my question is.. are they

correct? Am I

> not able to require THEM to modify things? They said they'd lower

my towel

> racks, and the rod in my closet and my door handles and they'd

cover that..

> but not the ramp.

>

> Thanks,

> Amy

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hillary has answered this question very thoroughly!

Here in NH as a rule, this would be correct. It may vary from state

to state. So I would also encourage you to contact the ILC that

Hillary had forwarded the information. Also I would encourage you to

contact the ADA Technical Center at 800-949-4232

Also if you find you are not able to pay for this ramp or lift, I

would encourage you to contact the same ILC for funding resources!

That is awesome that they are willing and able to make adjustments

in your home! It's funny how some places thinks this is a luxury

rather than a necessity...

Good luck!

a

> Hi Amy,

>

> It is possible that they can require this. What is legal depends

on the answers to several questions, including " When was the

building built? " , " Did it use public funds? " , " How many units does

it have? " , and so on.

>

> I would call your local Center for Independent Living (CIL) to get

your answer. Tara says that you live near Amarillo. There is a CIL

in Amarillo and the contact information for it is:

>

> Panhandle Action CIL

> Carl McMillen

> 1118 South Street

> Amarillo, TX 79101

> (806) 374-1400

> TTY: (806) 374-2774

> FAX: (806) 374-4550

> EMAIL: advocacy@n...

>

> If that's not close to you, check out this page to find the one

that is closest: http://www.ilru.org/Directory/texas.html

Whichever one you call will help you determine what's legally

required and what recourse you have if they are not doing it.

>

> Hillary

>

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> " Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that

matter. " Luther King, Jr.

>

>

> > [Original Message]

> > From: <Nickles629@a...>

> > <dwarfism >

> > Date: 12/29/2004 6:53:35 PM

> > Subject: Apartment rules and regulations?

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> > I'm about to relocate to an apartment complex within about a

week. There

> > seems to be a problem, though. The apartment has controlled

access, so it's

> > sorta set up more like a hotel. You go in a main entrance, then

you are inside to

> > go into your apartment. To get to my apartment you have to walk

up about 5

> > steps.. it's not much but... I have a scooter for going out to

places that

> > require lots of walking. I talked to them about having a ramp

right there and

> > they said that'd be up to me and out of my pocket.. and it has

to be temporary..

> > and approved by the owners first. So my question is.. are they

correct? Am I

> > not able to require THEM to modify things? They said they'd

lower my towel

> > racks, and the rod in my closet and my door handles and they'd

cover that..

> > but not the ramp.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Amy

>

[Guest guest]

I did contact them both.. they said if the building was built before 1990

then it doesn't have to be accessible. Only the manager's office, etc. The PILC

said to phone them next week and they would like to speak to me about getting

me some help with a ramp being put in, etc. So we'll see.......

Thanks,

Amy

[Guest guest]

Huh?? A.D.A. will still apply. They have to be compliant. If they start to

get pissy when you tell them by Federal law they have to be ADA compliant

email me off list with thier information and phone number I have someone who

will tell them the ins and outs of the law

(Also may I forward your original email amy to my friend who is the ADA

expert?).

Chass of Rundel of Ansteorra aka of the SCA aka

Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable Chariot

Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark (Have you seen my Belaying

Pin??)

Maison Du Corsaire Rouge

Muddeler of Mead, Ailment of Ale, Whiner of wine.

>

>> [Original Message]

>> From: <Nickles629@...>

>> <dwarfism >

>> Date: 12/29/2004 6:53:35 PM

>> Subject: Apartment rules and regulations?

>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>> I'm about to relocate to an apartment complex within about a week. There

>> seems to be a problem, though. The apartment has controlled access, so

>> it's

>> sorta set up more like a hotel. You go in a main entrance, then you are

>> inside to

>> go into your apartment. To get to my apartment you have to walk up about

>> 5

>> steps.. it's not much but... I have a scooter for going out to places

>> that

>> require lots of walking. I talked to them about having a ramp right there

>> and

>> they said that'd be up to me and out of my pocket.. and it has to be

>> temporary..

>> and approved by the owners first. So my question is.. are they correct?

>> Am I

>> not able to require THEM to modify things? They said they'd lower my

>> towel

>> racks, and the rod in my closet and my door handles and they'd cover

>> that..

>> but not the ramp.

>>

>> Thanks,

>> Amy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ames -

The ADA may or may not apply. That's why you have to answer those

questions and more, and then consult with a housing expert - this may be

subject to 504 laws, or the Fair Housing laws. You really need to gather

more information.

Again, my suggestion is to contact the place I listed in my earlier e-mail.

Hillary

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" Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter. "

Luther King, Jr.

> [Original Message]

> From: Chass Brown <chass@...>

> <dwarfism >; <Nickles629@...>

> Date: 12/30/2004 12:27:51 PM

> Subject: Re: Apartment rules and regulations?

>

>

> Huh?? A.D.A. will still apply. They have to be compliant. If they start

to

> get pissy when you tell them by Federal law they have to be ADA compliant

> email me off list with thier information and phone number I have someone

who

> will tell them the ins and outs of the law

> (Also may I forward your original email amy to my friend who is the ADA

> expert?).

>

> Chass of Rundel of Ansteorra aka of the SCA aka

> Charinthalis Del Sans of the portable Chariot

> Honorable Recruiter of the House of the Red Shark (Have you seen my

Belaying

> Pin??)

> Maison Du Corsaire Rouge

> Muddeler of Mead, Ailment of Ale, Whiner of wine.

> >

> >> [Original Message]

> >> From: <Nickles629@...>

> >> <dwarfism >

> >> Date: 12/29/2004 6:53:35 PM

> >> Subject: Apartment rules and regulations?

> >>

> >>

> >> Hi all,

> >> I'm about to relocate to an apartment complex within about a week.

There

> >> seems to be a problem, though. The apartment has controlled access, so

> >> it's

> >> sorta set up more like a hotel. You go in a main entrance, then you

are

> >> inside to

> >> go into your apartment. To get to my apartment you have to walk up

about

> >> 5

> >> steps.. it's not much but... I have a scooter for going out to places

> >> that

> >> require lots of walking. I talked to them about having a ramp right

there

> >> and

> >> they said that'd be up to me and out of my pocket.. and it has to be

> >> temporary..

> >> and approved by the owners first. So my question is.. are they

correct?

> >> Am I

> >> not able to require THEM to modify things? They said they'd lower my

> >> towel

> >> racks, and the rod in my closet and my door handles and they'd cover

> >> that..

> >> but not the ramp.

> >>

> >> Thanks,

> >> Amy

> >

> >