Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Good question Dan! I wondered the same thing.. hope to see answers to your questions. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. Thanks, Dan Kennedy > > TO ALL: > THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > > A few of the qualifications > > Parents age: 30-50 > married or single ok must be heterosexual > 10,000 per year income for each member of the > household > approved homestudy > approved through immigration > use an agency approved by China > > Fees are numerous a little something here a little > something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > required to the orphange to help care for those > children left behind. All together the estimated cost > would be around $15,000. > > Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > doesn't all have to be up front. > > I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > permission to travel as I am writing this. > > If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > > The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > else I can help you with. > > Tidwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Good point Dan, I certainly hope it's a requirement of the Chinese or the particular agency handling the adoption. Since we are hosting a foreign exchange student , Marlon , for the first time.... I was pleasantly surprised to go to the first " social/support meeting " and find that there were male homo-sexual partners as host families. In fact they were the leaders /officers of the group. We have to be open to a broad range of the definition of " family " .. marge On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:30:17 -0000 " Dan Kennedy " <dkennedy@...> writes: > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the > Chinese > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little > People > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about > taking > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > Thanks, > > Dan Kennedy > > > > > > TO ALL: > > THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > > > > A few of the qualifications > > > > Parents age: 30-50 > > married or single ok must be heterosexual > > 10,000 per year income for each member of the > > household > > approved homestudy > > approved through immigration > > use an agency approved by China > > > > Fees are numerous a little something here a little > > something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > > both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > > travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > > required to the orphange to help care for those > > children left behind. All together the estimated cost > > would be around $15,000. > > > > Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > > doesn't all have to be up front. > > > > I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > > China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > > the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > > grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > > am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > > permission to travel as I am writing this. > > > > If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > > find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > > > > The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > > Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > > Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > > picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > > else I can help you with. > > > > Tidwell > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dan and crew. Point well made, I think if the Child is going to have the chance to have a great home and great parents who cares if they parents are of the same sex, does that make people who are women and men any different, because I was always taught, we may LOOK different but turn us inside out and we're ALL the same, I think it's outrageous that people won't adopt kids to same sex households....I totally support people who want kids reguardless of their lifestyle REGUARDING same sex.....just because I or my family don't think it is right for us, doesn't give us the right to judge... my two cents, Re: Re: ADOPTION > > Good point Dan, > I certainly hope it's a requirement of the Chinese or the particular > agency handling the adoption. Since we are hosting a foreign exchange > student , Marlon , for the first time.... I was pleasantly surprised to > go to the first " social/support meeting " and find that there were male > homo-sexual partners as host families. In fact they were the leaders > /officers of the group. > > We have to be open to a broad range of the definition of " family " .. > marge > > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:30:17 -0000 " Dan Kennedy " <dkennedy@...> > writes: > > > > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the > > Chinese > > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little > > People > > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about > > taking > > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan Kennedy > > > > > > > > > > TO ALL: > > > THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > > > > > > A few of the qualifications > > > > > > Parents age: 30-50 > > > married or single ok must be heterosexual > > > 10,000 per year income for each member of the > > > household > > > approved homestudy > > > approved through immigration > > > use an agency approved by China > > > > > > Fees are numerous a little something here a little > > > something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > > > both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > > > travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > > > required to the orphange to help care for those > > > children left behind. All together the estimated cost > > > would be around $15,000. > > > > > > Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > > > doesn't all have to be up front. > > > > > > I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > > > China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > > > the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > > > grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > > > am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > > > permission to travel as I am writing this. > > > > > > If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > > > find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > > > > > > The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > > > Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > > > Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > > > picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > > > else I can help you with. > > > > > > Tidwell > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dan, Will all due respect (from a woman who has a homosexual grandson, and a gay cousin who died from AIDS,) who cares as long as the child gets a good and loving home? I would be far more concerned about the income requirement! Good grief! Cheers, Karolyn Re: ADOPTION Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. Thanks, Dan Kennedy > > TO ALL: > THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > > A few of the qualifications > > Parents age: 30-50 > married or single ok must be heterosexual > 10,000 per year income for each member of the > household > approved homestudy > approved through immigration > use an agency approved by China > > Fees are numerous a little something here a little > something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > required to the orphange to help care for those > children left behind. All together the estimated cost > would be around $15,000. > > Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > doesn't all have to be up front. > > I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > permission to travel as I am writing this. > > If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > > The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > else I can help you with. > > Tidwell === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Karolyn -- Hmmm ... I think that means you agree with me. Dan On 10/20/04 3:03 PM, " Karolyn " <Pugluv@...> wrote: > Dan, > > Will all due respect (from a woman who has a homosexual grandson, and a gay > cousin who died from AIDS,) who cares as long as the child gets a good and > loving home? I would be far more concerned about the income requirement! Good > grief! > > Cheers, > Karolyn > Re: ADOPTION > > > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > Thanks, > > Dan Kennedy > > >> >> TO ALL: >> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : >> >> A few of the qualifications >> >> Parents age: 30-50 >> married or single ok must be heterosexual >> 10,000 per year income for each member of the >> household >> approved homestudy >> approved through immigration >> use an agency approved by China >> >> Fees are numerous a little something here a little >> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork >> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is >> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is >> required to the orphange to help care for those >> children left behind. All together the estimated cost >> would be around $15,000. >> >> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it >> doesn't all have to be up front. >> >> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from >> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for >> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with >> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I >> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me >> permission to travel as I am writing this. >> >> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will >> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! >> >> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, >> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at >> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his >> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything >> else I can help you with. >> >> Tidwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 The requirement is fromt he Chinese government which has only recently started to let dwarf children out for adoption. We tried for two years to brign an achond 10yo hoem and they wouldnt let her out..We were todl by the nationals that it was because theyw ere afraid what people would think. Her dwarfism was seen as punishment for sins in a past life or for those of her ancestors. At any rate which is more important? Giving a child a life and family who will have neither in China or being hardnosed about politically correct language? Would you seriously ask the committee to " boycott " Chinese adoptions because China does not allow gays to adopt openely? A gay couple adopted while we were there picking up the daughter they finally assigned us but it was under the guise of being a single parent who had a friend who came along so it isnt like gays are being denied the opportunity to parent...just not officially. Children with differences like dwarfism, limb anomalies, albinism, etc., are ostracised. Those with albinism for instance are not allowed to hold a job, get married or go to public university. They are seen as living ghosts.....and objects of fear and hate. (We are currently waiting to travel for our third Chinese adoption.) " Normal " children have lack of basics like blankets in winter, hats, gloves, and in some cases nutrition is deficient. Yeah, maybe a law that says gays cant adopt is more important...... Apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Dan, No I don't... If I had agreed with you I would have posted nothing. Who cares where the requirement comes from? (which was your question) It IS a requirement... We all have to deal and comply with rules we do not necessarily agree with or understand. That is what I meant. It just does not matter who made the rules. People have to comply with them and adopt or change them and shoot yourself in the foot ... <shrug> In the meantime let this child find a home without challenging the rule of some case of righteous, moral and legal indignation, if that be what it is rooted in. That can come later if it is important. I adopted a child (when she was 2 days old) and had to jump through all sorts of inane, ridiculous and unreasonable legal hoops. But it was not worth the chance of losing the opportunity of adopting to make waves. Cheers, Karolyn Re: ADOPTION > > > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > Thanks, > > Dan Kennedy > > >> >> TO ALL: >> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : >> >> A few of the qualifications >> >> Parents age: 30-50 >> married or single ok must be heterosexual >> 10,000 per year income for each member of the >> household >> approved homestudy >> approved through immigration >> use an agency approved by China >> >> Fees are numerous a little something here a little >> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork >> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is >> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is >> required to the orphange to help care for those >> children left behind. All together the estimated cost >> would be around $15,000. >> >> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it >> doesn't all have to be up front. >> >> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from >> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for >> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with >> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I >> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me >> permission to travel as I am writing this. >> >> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will >> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! >> >> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, >> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at >> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his >> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything >> else I can help you with. >> >> Tidwell === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I think we all hope the little boy gets a home. But I strongly disagree with you, it DOES matter where the requirement comes from. If it's LPA, we can do something about it. If it's China, that may be out of our reach. Re: ADOPTION > > > > > > > > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese > > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People > > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking > > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan Kennedy > > > > > >> > >> TO ALL: > >> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > >> > >> A few of the qualifications > >> > >> Parents age: 30-50 > >> married or single ok must be heterosexual > >> 10,000 per year income for each member of the > >> household > >> approved homestudy > >> approved through immigration > >> use an agency approved by China > >> > >> Fees are numerous a little something here a little > >> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > >> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > >> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > >> required to the orphange to help care for those > >> children left behind. All together the estimated cost > >> would be around $15,000. > >> > >> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > >> doesn't all have to be up front. > >> > >> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > >> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > >> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > >> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > >> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > >> permission to travel as I am writing this. > >> > >> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > >> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > >> > >> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > >> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > >> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > >> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > >> else I can help you with. > >> > >> Tidwell > > > > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 In England, there has just been a study published which seems to show that children brought up in a 'single sex' environment, DO grow up with these tendencies. It is suggested that they are really following the example of their roll models. I guess one has to balance this with the alternatives for any child up for adoption. Cheers Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Karolyn -- If I didn't make it clear before, let me try again. If the " no gays " rule is one put in place by the Chinese government or the private adoption agency, then there's nothing we can do about it, though I don't like it. But if LPA had anything to do with it, we can and should do something about it. Which is why I asked if any of the officers could respond. You say, " We all have to deal and comply with rules we do not necessarily agree with or understand. " Well, not if those rules are coming from an organization that I pay dues to. (BTW, I suspect that LPA does *not* have anything to do with this.) ly, I'm not particularly keen on complying with anyone's rules if I disagree with them, but that's for another day. Dan On 10/20/04 6:25 PM, " Karolyn " <Pugluv@...> wrote: > Dan, > > > No I don't... If I had agreed with you I would have posted nothing. > > Who cares where the requirement comes from? (which was your question) It IS > a requirement... We all have to deal and comply with rules we do not > necessarily agree with or understand. That is what I meant. > > It just does not matter who made the rules. People have to comply with them > and adopt or change them and shoot yourself in the foot ... <shrug> In the > meantime let this child find a home without challenging the rule of some case > of righteous, moral and legal indignation, if that be what it is rooted in. > That can come later if it is important. > > I adopted a child (when she was 2 days old) and had to jump through all sorts > of inane, ridiculous and unreasonable legal hoops. But it was not worth the > chance of losing the opportunity of adopting to make waves. > > Cheers, > Karolyn > Re: ADOPTION >> >> >> >> >> Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese >> government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People >> of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking >> part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? >> >> ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan Kennedy >> >> >>> >>> TO ALL: >>> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : >>> >>> A few of the qualifications >>> >>> Parents age: 30-50 >>> married or single ok must be heterosexual >>> 10,000 per year income for each member of the >>> household >>> approved homestudy >>> approved through immigration >>> use an agency approved by China >>> >>> Fees are numerous a little something here a little >>> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork >>> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is >>> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is >>> required to the orphange to help care for those >>> children left behind. All together the estimated cost >>> would be around $15,000. >>> >>> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it >>> doesn't all have to be up front. >>> >>> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from >>> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for >>> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with >>> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I >>> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me >>> permission to travel as I am writing this. >>> >>> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will >>> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! >>> >>> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, >>> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at >>> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his >>> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything >>> else I can help you with. >>> >>> Tidwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 No offense to anyone, but I agree with Karolyn. Who cares about your sexuality preference? As long as the people who want to adopt the LP chinese child are able to take care of the child financially and emotionally, that's all that matters. An old friend of mine was a AP, but she was in the foster care system, and the only reson we connected was because I gave her what her parents and foster siblings didn't. The love and joy of being friends. We are the same age, so even though we were different physically, emotionally, we balanced each other out. she gave me the joy of helping someone out. while I gave her the joy of having a friend. My friend was financially in a good home, but she caused problems with her foster parents because they didn't treat her like a human. they more or less ignored her or turned her into their maid. That ticked us off, so on out bus, (driven the paster of our church) we sang songs together, that in the end, made us laugh. He didn't mind, because the pastor knew something was wrong, and that we connected in a way. I do that with foster kids or kids who are in the foster care system, and believe me, it's not a pretty sight what happens to kids who the system thinks they're in a good home with parents of different sex. If 2 people of the same sex, can give the child what they need and want, physically, and most definitely, emotionally, why don't they try it? If it doesn't work out, but they really want the child, go east where same sex marriages are legal. But leave that option as the last, and only if they really want the child. Abbey 17 yr old girl who has the mind of an old person, some have told me. Dan Kennedy <dkennedy@...> wrote: Karolyn -- Hmmm ... I think that means you agree with me. Dan On 10/20/04 3:03 PM, " Karolyn " <Pugluv@...> wrote: > Dan, > > Will all due respect (from a woman who has a homosexual grandson, and a gay > cousin who died from AIDS,) who cares as long as the child gets a good and > loving home? I would be far more concerned about the income requirement! Good > grief! > > Cheers, > Karolyn > Re: ADOPTION > > > > > Where did the heterosexuality requirement come from? Is it the Chinese > government, the agency that's handling the adoption, or Little People > of America? If LPA is involved, how do the officers feel about taking > part in discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation? > > ... no offense intended, and I hope none taken. > > Thanks, > > Dan Kennedy > > >> >> TO ALL: >> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : >> >> A few of the qualifications >> >> Parents age: 30-50 >> married or single ok must be heterosexual >> 10,000 per year income for each member of the >> household >> approved homestudy >> approved through immigration >> use an agency approved by China >> >> Fees are numerous a little something here a little >> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork >> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is >> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is >> required to the orphange to help care for those >> children left behind. All together the estimated cost >> would be around $15,000. >> >> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it >> doesn't all have to be up front. >> >> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from >> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for >> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with >> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I >> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me >> permission to travel as I am writing this. >> >> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will >> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! >> >> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, >> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at >> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his >> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything >> else I can help you with. >> >> Tidwell === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 Yeah I know about that. A friend of mine is Russian. She is not LP but she is short due to a medical reason other than dwarfism, but then again maybe she is. She was let out of Russia when she was about 10, I think, and they abused her really bad. She would have scars inside and out still today, if she didn't have them surgically removed/ hiddne, but she is the sweetest person I know. She is just a few months older than me, and she remembers Russia, although she lives in a family who gives her love and cherishes her likie they were one of their own kids- by blood. My friend is now an American citizen, thank god, otherwise, I and others would be scared she would die because she is disabled and Russia cant do anything medically to help her. Abbey AngelsRTru@... wrote: The requirement is fromt he Chinese government which has only recently started to let dwarf children out for adoption. We tried for two years to brign an achond 10yo hoem and they wouldnt let her out..We were todl by the nationals that it was because theyw ere afraid what people would think. Her dwarfism was seen as punishment for sins in a past life or for those of her ancestors. At any rate which is more important? Giving a child a life and family who will have neither in China or being hardnosed about politically correct language? Would you seriously ask the committee to " boycott " Chinese adoptions because China does not allow gays to adopt openely? A gay couple adopted while we were there picking up the daughter they finally assigned us but it was under the guise of being a single parent who had a friend who came along so it isnt like gays are being denied the opportunity to parent...just not officially. Children with differences like dwarfism, limb anomalies, albinism, etc., are ostracised. Those with albinism for instance are not allowed to hold a job, get married or go to public university. They are seen as living ghosts.....and objects of fear and hate. (We are currently waiting to travel for our third Chinese adoption.) " Normal " children have lack of basics like blankets in winter, hats, gloves, and in some cases nutrition is deficient. Yeah, maybe a law that says gays cant adopt is more important...... Apryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2004 Report Share Posted October 20, 2004 I heard of a study being done in England and people finding it inconclusive because of how the study was done and the amount of people involved in the study. EVERY gay person that I know has straight parents. If if it were true that people raised kids to turn out like themselves then there wouldn't be gay people at all. To my knowledge there are NO gays what so ever in my family and I'm not exactly all that straight. I don't think that studies that claim to show that gay parents raising gay children can be accurate..... but that's just my opinion. Amy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 Folks, Not to beat a dead horse but did anyone pay attention the the start of this " no Gays " adoption post? It was posted bye Biffy (the drug counselor to dwarfs). It appears that it was a reply that sent to Biffy PRIVATELY that he posted PUBLICLY. You can see his question that was asked at the bottom. Because of that one glitch, how do we know nothing has been added or subtracted? It's not a direct forward because we can't do that to this list so he had to cut & paste it. See where I'm going? Let's try to keep civil until we know all facts. Rose > > > , > > What are the fees and the general qualifications for > > adoption? > > thanks, > > biffycomp@y... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2004 Report Share Posted October 21, 2004 I respect your opinion. But if we all sat around and accepted things for the way they are, people with disabilities would not be able to adopt at all. People who are not married, would not be able to adopt either. Discrimination should not be in the picture here, but it is. It is eaiser to deal with the situation if we knew where the source is. If its something that is decided from another country, people in their country would have to change it if it was an issue, we couldn't do much if we did not live in their country. But if it's here in the US, (for instance), we can try to fight for a change if we feel it is not fair. " Squeaky wheel gets the grease! " a > >> > >> TO ALL: > >> THIS IS THE FOLLOW-UP TO THE ADOPTION : > >> > >> A few of the qualifications > >> > >> Parents age: 30-50 > >> married or single ok must be heterosexual > >> 10,000 per year income for each member of the > >> household > >> approved homestudy > >> approved through immigration > >> use an agency approved by China > >> > >> Fees are numerous a little something here a little > >> something there. Everyone who touches your paperwork > >> both in the USA and in China gets a fee. There is > >> travel, you will be in China two weeks. A donation is > >> required to the orphange to help care for those > >> children left behind. All together the estimated cost > >> would be around $15,000. > >> > >> Don't let that scare you though. You pay as you go, it > >> doesn't all have to be up front. > >> > >> I am adopting a little girl with special needs from > >> China and when I started I had not saved one penny for > >> the adoption. I managed to pull it all together with > >> grants, a loan, yard sales and other fundraisers. I > >> am waiting for the Chinese government to send me > >> permission to travel as I am writing this. > >> > >> If this little guy is meant to be your son you will > >> find a way to amke it happen. He deserves a family! > >> > >> The agency to contact for a packet is Adoption Guides, > >> Cyndi handles the China program you can reach her at > >> Cyndi@a... She can also send you his > >> picture and medicals. Let me know if there is anything > >> else I can help you with. > >> > >> Tidwell > > > > > === > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2007 Report Share Posted August 2, 2007 Hi all, This one couple (average height) stopped me yesterday we live in a Midwestern town of about 20,000. They already have a child of their own of average height. She was wanting to adopt and the agency that they were going through in which she by chance found this Chinese dwarf girl of 6. She mentioned that the agency hasn't totally denied them from adopting yet they are trying to use the excuse of her having post partum depression and being on a anti-psychotic medication at that time which happened about 15 years ago. She mentioned that currently the child is on adoption list of Little People. If she went through the LPA adoption process would her past have that much influence? Hopefully the agency isn't looking at that an average height couple shouldn't be able to adopt a dwarf child. Like an agency shouldn't discriminate a dwarf couple adopting an non-dwarf child. Is what the agency doing discrimination though coming up with excuses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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