Re: some comments made by larry the cable guy

[Guest guest]

and All,

I agree that sometimes we jump to fast to start accusing people of

using the M word inappropriately. He is just an actor who is supposed to act as

you said, sexist, ignorant, and like an uneducated redneck. Glad there is

someone out there that can see that!

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Okay so I saw the site that you posted Jayme. Sure I get offended about people

saying the " M " word. I agree with you but I also feel that if nobody knows any

other word but " M " its not their fault that aren't technically up-to-date with

correct terms for us.... secondly, I see so many people getting ticked off

because " we " as little people don't get respect like we should. I totally agree

on that, because of what some people have done it ruins our chances to do more

important things in life.... but I'm at the point where i feel that " we " need to

move on past these little comments that are made. So someone cracked a joke at

" M's " .... move on. I'm not going to get ticked off at every single person that

cracks fun at who we are. I don't have time to be angry. I have other important

stuff to think about.

I'm sorry again that you got offended Jayme but there are to many other things

at least for me to be worried about than comments like such. And besides, I

don't see many of us getting offended and saying anything when people talk about

over weight people or mentally handicap people.

It's just my opinion. I don't mean to offend anyone at all so please don't

think that's my intention, its just how i feel.

Lizzie

jayme cox <tiggerlicious1969@...> wrote:

hi gang, i thought i would pass this link along, since i was looking on the

site and i at one time liked the comedian larry the cable guy...i just read

something that disgusted me and i already sent him a message about it, hopefully

it goes to him or someone who manages him..he made a joke about us in his weekly

article and thought i should pass it along..its really disrespectful and

hurtful, only because he used the m word, which i hate..i know others dont, but

i do..anyways, the link is: http://www.larrythecableguy.com/

jayme

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[Guest guest]

Many months ago, we went to see Larry the Cable Guy

live (in fact it was a couple of years ago...) There

was a group of us, including my husband, my son (both

AH) and our dear friend " Big Joe " . Big Joe stands 7

feet tall.

During the show, there were several " M " word jokes.

Did we get up and stomp out, no. Larry the Cable Guy

is a comic/actor who is playing a role. LTCG is a

character, the character is supposed to be an

ignorant, sexist, redneck. As such, he uses very

non-PC words (believe me, the people who brought

little kids to the show were doing lots of

hand-over-the-ears and were taking the kids out). The

" M " word was mild compared to some of the new words

those kids learned that evening...

After the show, LTCG is out front at a table signing

autographs. So, Big Joe and I get in line together.

When we get to the front of the line, Big Joe

introduces me to LTCG " I'd like you to meet my wife " .

Let me tell you, mr Cable Guy's jaw dropped, he even

dropped character and said in a normal voice without

the accent " glad to meet you " and stuttered something

about love.

Anyway, LTCG character will not last forever, and

maybe the comic who brought him to us will bring us

something else to make us laugh.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

No I dont like the word.....but I also realize there are people out there

that, that was the word they were taught to use. So instead of getting so angry

and upset....be polite and explain to them if you are able to do so what the

appropriate word is. It shows them that we are out to educate instead of

picking fights every chance we get.

[Guest guest]

im not saying people have to stomp out or stop listening to him, because yes, he

is very funny, i just find the word offensive and no one should use it, no

matter if its a character or not..ive heard it so many times and so many people

use it, its just sick to me..just like the n word, i hate it with a passion

too..reason i hate it, is because its seperating us from everyone else when we

are all human and shouldnt be seperated from that..to me no matter what, the

word shouldnt be used, i dont care he is a celebrity and its a " character "

character smaracter, lol..he still should not use the word at all, why?we are

not a joke!alot of people make jokes, fine, but they dont have to use us as

jokes...just my 2 cents

jayme

K McClintock <kage_ar@...> wrote:

Many months ago, we went to see Larry the Cable Guy

live (in fact it was a couple of years ago...) There

was a group of us, including my husband, my son (both

AH) and our dear friend " Big Joe " . Big Joe stands 7

feet tall.

During the show, there were several " M " word jokes.

Did we get up and stomp out, no. Larry the Cable Guy

is a comic/actor who is playing a role. LTCG is a

character, the character is supposed to be an

ignorant, sexist, redneck. As such, he uses very

non-PC words (believe me, the people who brought

little kids to the show were doing lots of

hand-over-the-ears and were taking the kids out). The

" M " word was mild compared to some of the new words

those kids learned that evening...

After the show, LTCG is out front at a table signing

autographs. So, Big Joe and I get in line together.

When we get to the front of the line, Big Joe

introduces me to LTCG " I'd like you to meet my wife " .

Let me tell you, mr Cable Guy's jaw dropped, he even

dropped character and said in a normal voice without

the accent " glad to meet you " and stuttered something

about love.

Anyway, LTCG character will not last forever, and

maybe the comic who brought him to us will bring us

something else to make us laugh.

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[Guest guest]

i have a life too, just wanted to point this out and actually, im just realizing

who i am and that i am a little person...im the president of people first, a

group for the disabled, so yeah, im gonna advocate and get p'd off when comments

are made or anything like that..i have important things too, but shouldnt an

important thing in life also be to advocate and educate???and to let people know

that the word is wrong and that there should be no jokes like that??i know i

feel that way..since i am an advocate it kinda goes along with what i do..i know

everyone has lives and such, which is super..i also feel that if we dont do

anything about it now, it will just get worse and our youngsters who are little

people, will get the worst of it..when i grew up, it wasnt all that bad, because

people hadnt seen anyone like me, but as i grew up, it got worse..i had kids

prank me all the time, mess with my wheelchair so i couldnt go to class, i had

alot of things done..so yeah, im gonna

advocate and teach the world that there are people known as little persons and

that we are here to stay and they better not mess with us!in my opinion, the

jokes and comments are only gonna get worse...

jayme

<dwiriotgurl@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Okay so I saw the site that you posted Jayme. Sure I get offended about people

saying the " M " word. I agree with you but I also feel that if nobody knows any

other word but " M " its not their fault that aren't technically up-to-date with

correct terms for us.... secondly, I see so many people getting ticked off

because " we " as little people don't get respect like we should. I totally agree

on that, because of what some people have done it ruins our chances to do more

important things in life.... but I'm at the point where i feel that " we " need to

move on past these little comments that are made. So someone cracked a joke at

" M's " .... move on. I'm not going to get ticked off at every single person that

cracks fun at who we are. I don't have time to be angry. I have other important

stuff to think about.

I'm sorry again that you got offended Jayme but there are to many other things

at least for me to be worried about than comments like such. And besides, I

don't see many of us getting offended and saying anything when people talk about

over weight people or mentally handicap people.

It's just my opinion. I don't mean to offend anyone at all so please don't think

that's my intention, its just how i feel.

Lizzie

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[Guest guest]

whatever..obviously u guys like the word???u dont see jeff foxworthy using the

word, nor do u see any other comedians using it..hmm, i wonder why they

dont..maybe its respect!i dont mind him being a redneck and cursing and all..i

just mind the m word, its just like the n word in my opinion...dont matter how

he is supposed to " act " , but u dont see everyone else using the word..im an

advocate, so yeah, i feel this way..

jayme

mslp2u2002@... wrote:

and All,

I agree that sometimes we jump to fast to start accusing people of

using the M word inappropriately. He is just an actor who is supposed to act as

you said, sexist, ignorant, and like an uneducated redneck. Glad there is

someone out there that can see that!

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[Guest guest]

I agree with Jayme.

Sometimes there is a time to say ENOUGH! The more we educate people the less

reason they have to use ignorance as an excuse.

Unless someone has been living in a cave there is no reason to use the M word.

It went out a long time ago.

That is why I wrote that article on Bravo's show. These are supposed to be the

" elite " women of the county. Yet, they find it funny to poke fun at people who

are not like them.

As for the overweight and mental jokes, I don't like those either.

It is a guarantee that someone in the audience will be offended.

Thanks.

Nathasha

p.s. did you read this month's http://www.audacitymagazine.com ? If not, what

are you waiting for?

jayme cox <tiggerlicious1969@...> wrote:

i have a life too, just wanted to point this out and actually, im just

realizing who i am and that i am a little person...im the president of people

first, a group for the disabled, so yeah, im gonna advocate and get p'd off when

comments are made or anything like that..i have important things too, but

shouldnt an important thing in life also be to advocate and educate???and to let

people know that the word is wrong and that there should be no jokes like

that??i know i feel that way..since i am an advocate it kinda goes along with

what i do..i know everyone has lives and such, which is super..i also feel that

if we dont do anything about it now, it will just get worse and our youngsters

who are little people, will get the worst of it..when i grew up, it wasnt all

that bad, because people hadnt seen anyone like me, but as i grew up, it got

worse..i had kids prank me all the time, mess with my wheelchair so i couldnt go

to class, i had alot of things done..so yeah, im gonna

advocate and teach the world that there are people known as little persons and

that we are here to stay and they better not mess with us!in my opinion, the

jokes and comments are only gonna get worse...

jayme

<dwiriotgurl@...> wrote:

Hi all,

Okay so I saw the site that you posted Jayme. Sure I get offended about people

saying the " M " word. I agree with you but I also feel that if nobody knows any

other word but " M " its not their fault that aren't technically up-to-date with

correct terms for us.... secondly, I see so many people getting ticked off

because " we " as little people don't get respect like we should. I totally agree

on that, because of what some people have done it ruins our chances to do more

important things in life.... but I'm at the point where i feel that " we " need to

move on past these little comments that are made. So someone cracked a joke at

" M's " .... move on. I'm not going to get ticked off at every single person that

cracks fun at who we are. I don't have time to be angry. I have other important

stuff to think about.

I'm sorry again that you got offended Jayme but there are to many other things

at least for me to be worried about than comments like such. And besides, I

don't see many of us getting offended and saying anything when people talk about

over weight people or mentally handicap people.

It's just my opinion. I don't mean to offend anyone at all so please don't think

that's my intention, its just how i feel.

Lizzie

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Extending your theory: One could also say that a woman or man who appears fully

nude and engaging in an ...ummm... an adult situation or worse is " just an actor

who is supposed to act as you said, sexist, ignorant, and like an uneducated

redneck. " which may be true on some level but not on MY level! Does that mean

you believe that we should stoop to the level that society has deemed acceptable

(or not) or do we need to stand for something we believe is morally correct?

Where do we draw the line FOR OURSELVES and what makes us so incensed that we

stand up and walk out (telling a theater manager the reason) or be heard by

writing letters and making phone calls? I do not have all the answers. Heaven

knows I do not even know all the questions and I am NOT attacking you or anyone

else... Just thinking out and putting those thoughts on " cyber " paper!

Cheers,

Karolyn

Re: some comments made by larry the cable guy

and All,

I agree that sometimes we jump to fast to start accusing people of

using the M word inappropriately. He is just an actor who is supposed to act

as

you said, sexist, ignorant, and like an uneducated redneck. Glad there is

someone out there that can see that!

[Guest guest]

I can understand why it might upset you, but I personally found it

funny, I understand the " m " word easily upsets people but I just

believe that people have better things to do then get upset every time

a comedian uses the word. Mencia uses it all the time, but he

also uses the " N " word and Beener very excessivly. If a person of

respect was to use it, especially an elected offical I can see being a

little upset, but comedians will always use it to try to get a laugh.

Do I think it's right? No...I don't think it is....I've just come to

accept it because of what they are trying to do. I don't think you

should start disliking Larry just because of him using the word. It's

just not worth it if he makes you laugh all of the other time. We need

to laugh alot more in the world and not be so angered, but that is

just my humble opinion.

Leenesto,

West Texas

>

> hi gang, i thought i would pass this link along, since i was looking

on the site and i at one time liked the comedian larry the cable

guy...i just read something that disgusted me and i already sent him a

message about it, hopefully it goes to him or someone who manages

him..he made a joke about us in his weekly article and thought i

should pass it along..its really disrespectful and hurtful, only

because he used the m word, which i hate..i know others dont, but i

do..anyways, the link is: http://www.larrythecableguy.com/

>

> jayme

[Guest guest]

lol i see comedians use the word all the time.

WHO CARES.. there's bigger things in the world to worry about..

goodness

Amy

Re: some comments made by larry the cable guy

whatever..obviously u guys like the word???u dont see jeff foxworthy using

the word, nor do u see any other comedians using it..hmm, i wonder why they

dont..maybe its respect!i dont mind him being a redneck and cursing and

all..i just mind the m word, its just like the n word in my opinion...dont

matter how he is supposed to " act " , but u dont see everyone else using the

word..im an advocate, so yeah, i feel this way..

jayme

mslp2u2002@... wrote:

and All,

I agree that sometimes we jump to fast to start accusing people of

using the M word inappropriately. He is just an actor who is supposed to act

as

you said, sexist, ignorant, and like an uneducated redneck. Glad there is

someone out there that can see that!

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[Guest guest]

I read 'Comedians' as 'Canadians' and was GOING to write back with 'What are you

talking about, eh?!'

But seriously. Not all black skinned people take offense from 'Nigger', either.

Just like not all fat people take offense at being called fat. Chances are if

someone were directing the word Midget at you and you indicated that it was

offensive to you, they'd probably stop...But 'all in good fun' comes to mind.

[Guest guest]

As one who has done occasional standup and written editorials about the

innappropriate use of the " M " word, I guess I'll weigh in (for what it's

worth).

I think, as far as comedians go, whether or when we should get upset depends

on the context. Obviously, in a nightclub, or on stage in some high-price

venue, I don't necessarily like the use of the M word, but I'm not going to

spend my time or energy fighting it. It is directed to a limited audience,

and I think most of the people attending expect a certain amount of debase,

crude or politcally incorrect material. (You don't go to a strip club for

the steak and wine -- not that I WOULD EVEN KNOW what the inside of strip

club looks like, much less ever go inside one ;-p ). However, when that

kind of humor is broadcast on national TV, with a much wider audience, and

has the greater potential to negatively affect public opnion, then I do get

riled up (hence my editorial about Jimmy Kimmel).

Also, I think many comedians purposely push the envelope, not only to get

attention, but to remove sancrosanct status from certain words and terms. I

think people can be too hyper-sensitive, and some comedians feel it is there

philosophic duty to bring us back down to earth. Ufortunately, they don't

apply this evenly and to every marginalized group. It seems like dwarfs,

the obese, and homosexuals are the only ones whom it is appropriate to

mock.

So we pick out battles carefully. Conserve ammunition.

Bill

On 4/13/06, K McClintock <kage_ar@...> wrote:

>

> Many months ago, we went to see Larry the Cable Guy

> live (in fact it was a couple of years ago...) There

> was a group of us, including my husband, my son (both

> AH) and our dear friend " Big Joe " . Big Joe stands 7

> feet tall.

>

> During the show, there were several " M " word jokes.

> Did we get up and stomp out, no. Larry the Cable Guy

> is a comic/actor who is playing a role. LTCG is a

> character, the character is supposed to be an

> ignorant, sexist, redneck. As such, he uses very

> non-PC words (believe me, the people who brought

> little kids to the show were doing lots of

> hand-over-the-ears and were taking the kids out). The

> " M " word was mild compared to some of the new words

> those kids learned that evening...

>

> After the show, LTCG is out front at a table signing

> autographs. So, Big Joe and I get in line together.

> When we get to the front of the line, Big Joe

> introduces me to LTCG " I'd like you to meet my wife " .

> Let me tell you, mr Cable Guy's jaw dropped, he even

> dropped character and said in a normal voice without

> the accent " glad to meet you " and stuttered something

> about love.

>

> Anyway, LTCG character will not last forever, and

> maybe the comic who brought him to us will bring us

> something else to make us laugh.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

U know what i completely agree with you. It was a joke let is slide. It wasnt

directly pointed to anyone. If u gonna boycott him do it for a good reason. Like

maybe because he isnt funny... Atlease in my eyes he isnt. If i was to choose

between listenin to him all day and taking a bullet in the heart shoot me and

get it over with.

Lee Nesto <leenesto@...> wrote:

I can understand why it might upset you, but I personally found it

funny, I understand the " m " word easily upsets people but I just

believe that people have better things to do then get upset every time

a comedian uses the word. Mencia uses it all the time, but he

also uses the " N " word and Beener very excessivly. If a person of

respect was to use it, especially an elected offical I can see being a

little upset, but comedians will always use it to try to get a laugh.

Do I think it's right? No...I don't think it is....I've just come to

accept it because of what they are trying to do. I don't think you

should start disliking Larry just because of him using the word. It's

just not worth it if he makes you laugh all of the other time. We need

to laugh alot more in the world and not be so angered, but that is

just my humble opinion.

Leenesto,

West Texas

[Guest guest]

[moderator's note -- this is the 5th post of the day. the rest will be posted

tomorrow.]

u people must really like it when someone says jokes about u...really, think

about it...if u were really truly called that, im sure it would bother u..ive

had jokes told about me and as a HUMAN being, its just wrong and

disgusting..obviously u people are not human if u like being the butt of a

joke..this list is gettin really bad, i dont understand you people who have to

trash others just for their opinions..its just words i know, but still..dont

matter if the joke was towards any one person, it shouldnt matter because it was

about a little person...he is funny, i never said that..i like some of his

stuff, i dont like it when the m word is mentioned or that we are referenced in

jokes, from ANYONE

jayme

sean jefferson <ekirei2001@...> wrote:

U know what i completely agree with you. It was a joke let is slide. It wasnt

directly pointed to anyone. If u gonna boycott him do it for a good reason. Like

maybe because he isnt funny... Atlease in my eyes he isnt. If i was to choose

between listenin to him all day and taking a bullet in the heart shoot me and

get it over with.

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[Guest guest]

yeah, there is, but i was passing the info along, it wasnt like i was starting a

discussion, so if u people dont like it, shut the heck up!im tired of readin

about it already..so what, people agree its wrong or disagree and think its

okay..whoopie..i was passing that along..this list has gotten worse than when i

first got on it..i dunno what the heck u all people think it is, but i think its

a list for info, not to bash others for what they believe is right or feel..

TxChapter44 <TxChapter44@...> wrote: lol i see comedians use the word all

the time.

WHO CARES.. there's bigger things in the world to worry about..

goodness

Amy

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[Guest guest]

why would anyone laugh at the m word or laugh at us because of who we are???i

dont take being who i am a laughing matter, its NOT funny!obviously you all have

different opinions, fine, but keep them to urselves, i really dont care that u

people like it..i dont, im sure others dont either, whatever..dang...i dont

really laugh at his jokes, but some are good...im an advocate so i do feel

strongly about issues like this..and im proud to be who i am, thats why i dont

like being the butt of jokes..i dont know who that person is, nor do i give a

crap..i just looked ltcg up and saw that he wrote that, was passing it

along,whoopie...now get off the high horse and talk about something else

Lee Nesto <leenesto@...> wrote: I can understand why it might upset you,

but I personally found it

funny, I understand the " m " word easily upsets people but I just

believe that people have better things to do then get upset every time

a comedian uses the word. Mencia uses it all the time, but he

also uses the " N " word and Beener very excessivly. If a person of

respect was to use it, especially an elected offical I can see being a

little upset, but comedians will always use it to try to get a laugh.

Do I think it's right? No...I don't think it is....I've just come to

accept it because of what they are trying to do. I don't think you

should start disliking Larry just because of him using the word. It's

just not worth it if he makes you laugh all of the other time. We need

to laugh alot more in the world and not be so angered, but that is

just my humble opinion.

Leenesto,

West Texas

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[Guest guest]

or just ignore it...i know its their job to make people laugh, but they shouldnt

use the word..i always try to educate if possible..

mslp2u2002@... wrote: No I dont like the word.....

[Guest guest]

" (Khelkhet) " <khelkhet@...> wrote:

" But seriously. Not all black skinned people take offense from 'Nigger',

either. "

No we just have the tendency to shoot the person that said it. Trust me,..

i've seen it. Unless ur black then we let it slide all day long.. Well

sometimes... I wouldnt use it blatantly around my grandma i mean shes 70 and

from alabama, that word means more to her than the president of the US. With

that in mind i understand why its imperative for people to not use the term

midget. Could you see the Cable guy call someone " n " . Naa he would be fired

faster than that sports commentator that said look at the monkeys run. I

apologise i had the wrong view on this subject at first but i do see the

importance now.

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[Guest guest]

Different things upset different people... I have a special needs

child who is autistic... I get very offended when people start

throwing the word " retard " out there and I get even more upset when

people are making fun of handicapped people... But there are times

where a joke was said, or a remark was done and I didnt get AS

offended as I normally would have... If a stranger starts going off

talking about a retard or making fun of the " short bus " then I

immediately want to hurt him, but if it is someone I know and they

make a passing remark, I normally dont take offense.... I is the way

they say it and why they say it... Everyone has their own tolerance

for what they can/can not handle and what they will/will not take...

I know that I have laughed at Larry's jokes, even the ones that he

talks about retards... Did I think I would laugh, no, but did I?

Yes... Am I ashamed of laughing, no...when you are watching comedy,

you are expected to laugh... if he was out on the street making

remarks, then yeah, I would get into a debate with him, but he is

doing his routine and he is trying to get a rise out of people...

that's his job... There are always 2 sides to everything and not

everything out there will offened everyone the same... I can honestly

say that as I got older, my views have changed alot... At first, any

kind of comment made towards my son or any mentally handicapped child

would get me pissed off and ready to fight, now a days, I think about

why things were said, if they said it to hurt someone, or if it was

said out of pure ignorance and not to be taken as a bad thing... I

dont get myself all upset anymore and I take the time to educate

others if something is offending me... I let them know why I am

offended and 9 times out of 10, that person is sorry for whatever was

said and they rethink about things before they casually make a

remark...

[Guest guest]

I wasn't bashing you, thank you.

Amy

Re: some comments made by larry the cable guy

yeah, there is, but i was passing the info along, it wasnt like i was

starting a discussion, so if u people dont like it, shut the heck up!im

tired of readin about it already..so what, people agree its wrong or

disagree and think its okay..whoopie..i was passing that along..this list

has gotten worse than when i first got on it..i dunno what the heck u all

people think it is, but i think its a list for info, not to bash others for

what they believe is right or feel..

TxChapter44 <TxChapter44@...> wrote: lol i see comedians use the word

all the time.

WHO CARES.. there's bigger things in the world to worry about..

goodness

Amy

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