Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

[Guest guest]

List,

Please see my rebuttal below:

>

> And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

> theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

>

> If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

> their members, especially one who has brought the ups

> and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

> for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

> daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

> for them, I won't now.

>

Several reasons:

1. The request was made to present the award at the 50th anniversary

celebration. This was not the appropriate time to present an award

from a non-LP entity to ANYONE - LPA member or otherwise. This event

was to honor LPA and the memory of its founder.

2. By presenting the award to Matt AT THAT EVENT, we would have

mistreated the rest of our members.

3. The presenter was offered general assembly meetings and the

banquet to make her presentation. She refused.

4. LPA as an organization does not mistreat its members. Some

individuals within LPA tend to mistreat each other. LPA has a history

and a culture that " outsiders " sometimes do not understand.

5. As mentioned in another post, Matt has done some mudslinging at

other LPA members as well - he is hardly an innocent victim in all

this. He has done a lot of good for little people with the show and

this has provided some redemption for him.

6. LPA will take no official position on Matt's situation. It did

not happen at an LPA function, so LPA has no say in this whatsoever.

Matt is subject to the judgement of the courts.

Your anger toward LPA I believe is based on some misinformation and

what has transpired on this list. This is not the true picture of LPA

and LPA should not be judged this way. However, what you do with your

money is your business....

Randy Bradford

Director

LPA District 11

[Guest guest]

7. LPA did not deny Matt an award, nor could it.

Dan

On 8/2/07, Randy Bradford <bradfra@...> wrote:

>

> List,

>

> Please see my rebuttal below:

>

> >

> > And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

> > theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

> >

> > If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

> > their members, especially one who has brought the ups

> > and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

> > for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

> > daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

> > for them, I won't now.

> >

>

> Several reasons:

>

> 1. The request was made to present the award at the 50th anniversary

> celebration. This was not the appropriate time to present an award

> from a non-LP entity to ANYONE - LPA member or otherwise. This event

> was to honor LPA and the memory of its founder.

>

> 2. By presenting the award to Matt AT THAT EVENT, we would have

> mistreated the rest of our members.

>

> 3. The presenter was offered general assembly meetings and the

> banquet to make her presentation. She refused.

>

> 4. LPA as an organization does not mistreat its members. Some

> individuals within LPA tend to mistreat each other. LPA has a history

> and a culture that " outsiders " sometimes do not understand.

>

> 5. As mentioned in another post, Matt has done some mudslinging at

> other LPA members as well - he is hardly an innocent victim in all

> this. He has done a lot of good for little people with the show and

> this has provided some redemption for him.

>

> 6. LPA will take no official position on Matt's situation. It did

> not happen at an LPA function, so LPA has no say in this whatsoever.

> Matt is subject to the judgement of the courts.

>

> Your anger toward LPA I believe is based on some misinformation and

> what has transpired on this list. This is not the true picture of LPA

> and LPA should not be judged this way. However, what you do with your

> money is your business....

>

> Randy Bradford

> Director

> LPA District 11

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sigh, Eyes to the ceiling. " M " , once more (this is becoming a very tiresome

habit of yours) you again choose to totally misread what I say. Unless of

course, you have a weakness of understanding of English. Therefore, I

assume, with such lacking, you make your own interpretation of the words to

suit the axe you seem to have to grind all the time.

OR, if it is me unable to make sense of YOUR English, then forgive my

ignornace and explain to me what Paris Hilton ( who got upset, slightly, at

having to be sent to prison) Richie (who WAS sent to prison),

Brittney Spears who appears on websites showing video clips of bits of her

anatomy I'm sure she didn't want showing (even though they were left bare

at the time), and the other two, sorry I don't know them. Al Gore III ? Oh

I know him, wasn't he gonna be president, up to the last count? But I

can't for the life of me see what any of them have to do with dwarfism

(hardly stage managed by ourselves) or the continued unwanted curiosity (as

pointed out by Faye) of members of the public.

BUT, I'm sure you are just itching to explain to me. I appreciate your

patience:-)

Fred

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Fred,

If your point is that because he is a dwarf he is being scrutinized,

then explain

-Paris Hilton

- Richie

-Brittney Spears

- Lohan

-Nic Nolte

and the list goes on...including Al Gore III who didn't chose to be

scrutinized, but can thank his father for making that choice for him.

(http://www.totaldui.com/celebrity_dui_spotlight.htm)

>

> Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I

can see it clearly.

>

> Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

[Guest guest]

Fred,

I think your post was a little condescending, but I'm going to respond

b/c I'm with on this one.

As BJ mentioned before - like these celebrities, Matt made a decision

to put his life in the limelight. So like those who have been slapped

with DUI's before, he knows will be scrutinized and chased after from

the media as well as the general public (who reads/watches this stuff)

like the Richies, the Paris Hiltons, Lindsey Lohans and etc.

Granted, I believe Matt worked his way up to achieve his successes,

unlike some of these girls. But the consequences should still remain

the same. You do not give slack for reckless endangerment and I

strongly believe in our democratic and judicial process.

At least that's how it works in America.

Irene

> >

> > Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I

> can see it clearly.

> >

> > Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

> his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

> we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

> slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

> if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

> press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

> his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

> small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

>

[Guest guest]

Fred-

If I may, was simply pointing out that Matt Roloff's dwarfism was not

necessarily the reason for his mishap being publicized and citing the other

people (Paris, Richie, Lohan, etc) as examples of other

celebrities whose mishaps were well-publicized; I thought her point was

valid. The point is celebrities in general are subject to public scrutiny.

Perhaps I am obtuse, but I gathered from your post that dwarfism was the

primary reason Matt's DUI was singled out. To cite part of your post:

We know that if we put just the slightest foot wrong, if we do something

even remotely unusual, hell if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of

it appearing in the press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope,

fortune) from his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given

the small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

This statement applies to people who are well-known for any reason,

including dwarfism. True, our dwarfism makes us and our behavior stand out,

but so do other differences such as celebrity.

Ken

Original Message:

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From: FRED mail@...

Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 18:18:28 +0100

dwarfism

Subject: Re: Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Sigh, Eyes to the ceiling. " M " , once more (this is becoming a very tiresome

habit of yours) you again choose to totally misread what I say. Unless of

course, you have a weakness of understanding of English. Therefore, I

assume, with such lacking, you make your own interpretation of the words to

suit the axe you seem to have to grind all the time.

OR, if it is me unable to make sense of YOUR English, then forgive my

ignornace and explain to me what Paris Hilton ( who got upset, slightly, at

having to be sent to prison) Richie (who WAS sent to prison),

Brittney Spears who appears on websites showing video clips of bits of her

anatomy I'm sure she didn't want showing (even though they were left bare

at the time), and the other two, sorry I don't know them. Al Gore III ? Oh

I know him, wasn't he gonna be president, up to the last count? But I

can't for the life of me see what any of them have to do with dwarfism

(hardly stage managed by ourselves) or the continued unwanted curiosity (as

pointed out by Faye) of members of the public.

BUT, I'm sure you are just itching to explain to me. I appreciate your

patience:-)

Fred

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Fred,

If your point is that because he is a dwarf he is being scrutinized,

then explain

-Paris Hilton

- Richie

-Brittney Spears

- Lohan

-Nic Nolte

and the list goes on...including Al Gore III who didn't chose to be

scrutinized, but can thank his father for making that choice for him.

(http://www.totaldui.com/celebrity_dui_spotlight.htm)

>

> Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I

can see it clearly.

>

> Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

[Guest guest]

Ken, thank you for being a good samaritan.

Oh, I knew what she meant, but this thread has gone on and on, and sorry, but I

was getting bored, so once more, my sense of humour got me into more trouble:-)

To be honest, I had this mental image of the ones quoted as all being somehow,

suddenly afflicted with dwarfism. Just imagine the media interest in a

conference if they all turned up like that:-)

Fred

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Fred,

If your point is that because he is a dwarf he is being scrutinized,

then explain

-Paris Hilton

- Richie

-Brittney Spears

- Lohan

-Nic Nolte

and the list goes on...including Al Gore III who didn't chose to be

scrutinized, but can thank his father for making that choice for him.

(http://www.totaldui.com/celebrity_dui_spotlight.htm)

>

> Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I

can see it clearly.

>

> Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

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Apryl ! I'm shocked:-) But I still loves yer:-)

Fred

Re: Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Ritchie, Brittney Spears, Lohan and Paris Hilton are

spoiled little rich girls, brats who buy their way out of almost everything.

None

of them offer anything even close to what I want my daughters to model

themselves after. Had they been members of average american society they would

have been nailed to the wall and stuck in real jails without any luxuries like

phones. Come on....Brittney driving with her baby in her lap, with

coke in her pocket and Paris with her ties to the Hilton Hotel chains????

Nik Nolte is an odd one for sure...Al Gore Junior didn't choose to be

scrutinized per se but did choose to behave outrageously and dangerously on

his

own....Just like the Bush girls. Neither of their fathers can be blamed for

the

behavior of their adult children. As adults they were all free to choose

to be stupid. With regards to Matt Rolloff, we dont know the story behind

the story and its really none of our business. If we choose to take it

personally then we choose wrongly. Do we let the inappropriate albeit

dangerous

act of DUI negate all the good Matt has done for his fellow LPs? Or do we

support him and encourage him to get beyond it and do better?

Apryl

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[Guest guest]

> Did anyone ever deem Matt Roloff " Saint Mathew? " No. Id say he is a

> human being and human beings make mistakes.

Actually, I think a good number of people really did think of him

as " St. " when he was President of LPA. But the halo slowly

turned into the pointy tail as people got to know the real Matt. His

energy and powers of charm and persuasion ended up poisoning the

organization rather than advancing it. Unlike some, he couldn't put

his ego and his pride aside in deference to the organization's

mission. His behavior alienated many hardworking volunteers and

employees, and set LPA back several years.

> I think he is a stand-up guy who will accept culpability for his

> poor judgement that led to a DUI.

If there is a way out of it, I'm sure Matt and his cadre of lawyers

will find it. Refusing the breathalyzer was a smart first move.

-

[Guest guest]

I see yours right now Horns that is.....

Sorry but if we're going to be able to say this stuff I have to defend my

friends

Who or is there a moderator? I'm just curious now. It doesn't seem like things

r being held back. I am a bit concerned about this.

I guess I'm just going to unsubscribe okay?

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[Guest guest]

I see everyone's point, including and Bill who made a good one,

in my eyes, that is.

But, I'd like to say perhaps we should keep our thoughts and prayers

for the rest of the Roloff family, including Matt, as being a member

of Alateen since I was 16 and a member of Alanon on and off since

becoming an adult, his problem goes deeper than just this incident.

This incident just shed light on a deeper root, or in other words,

he just got caught (or perhaps not as he did plead innocent and he

truly may be, let's remember that too). However, since he did have a

prior one I am assuming it goes deeper.

So, will I still look up to Matt as an lp role model/hero whatever?

I will, just not this part of him. And why, well, to use another

person, say, Pete Rose, who was one h*lluva baseball player, but

still he had a problem with gambling. So if I ever have a son, I hope

he plays ball like Pete without the gambling part too. And if I have

an lp son, I hope he still plays ball like Pete, is an organizer and

builder of our group like Matt, and wears a halo like St. . haha

I know yer thinking this, Grady, you don't know what's it's like to

have teen kids... yet. lol Cuz, I don't think one fault eliminates

the rest of the good of what he has done. Why, because he be forgiven

and start all over again:). Still, if any of us want to no longer

hold up Matt in high regard, I respect that too, as that's their

right to do as well.

But, what we can do is this, and that's if you want to too, is to

hold his family in yer thoughts and prayers as they going thru it

even more so and know of it that much more than you and I will ever

know about it on here.

luv, grady

[Guest guest]

I agree - Matt is human. Granted, I don't agree with DUI's but thankfully he

hasn't killed anyone yet, including himself. However, when I read it I was

wondering - with our stature would the legal alcohol limit be the same for

us? I mean, I know I can get a little tipsy off one beer compared to someone

who is 5'5 " so just curious if that would have anything to do with it?

Gretchen

" ...A person should not believe in an " ism " . He should believe in himself.

Lennon said it on his first solo album. " I don't believe in Beatles, I

just believe in me. " A good point there. Afterall, he was the Walrus. I

could be the Walrus and I'd still have to bum rides off people. " - Ferris

Bueller

[Guest guest]

Fred,

This is hardly about you and your grind, other than the fact that you

posted the following and I thought they warranted a response, since I

read them as a statements I did not agree with. I didn't see a

disclaimer that only those who AGREE with your viewpoint should

respond and say YEA! I don't agree that anyone is entitled to applause

for 'allegid' bad behavior, regardless of their height:

" Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity. "

" > > Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

> his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

> we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

> slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

> if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

> press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

> his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

> small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity. "

When an individual is behind the wheel of a 4360 lbs vehicle,

(supposedly from the sites I read) what you have done for the ANY

community is irrelevant if 'allegedly' intoxicated. Recent 'DUI

celebrity' aside, in the hands of a drunk driver this is a killing

machine, no matter ones height and the level of shine on one's

supposed halo. The police can only judge what they see and enforce the

law as they interpret it. In America you are innocent until proven

guilty, but the police cannot wait until you actually kill someone to

stop you from erratic driving.

Driving while impaired is dangerous whether you court the media and

become famous or you live your life quietly out of the grandeur of the

small screen. Those who chose to court the media will most likely have

their stories exploited by the media, but ALL entertainment publicity

is exploitation. The media doesn't seem to sit around making judgments

as to whether you'd like certain aspects of your life publicized or not.

You build it and they WILL come. Hitting their ratings home run.

When you've rolled your eyes back into their natural position you may

want to click on the following link in order to correct your ignorance

(your words, your invitation) and educate yourself on the American, Al

Gore III.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_III

Whose only weakness is for chocolate and intelligent, well versed men

in English and in Spanish (and sometimes French).

>

> Sigh, Eyes to the ceiling. " M " , once more (this is becoming a very

tiresome habit of yours) you again choose to totally misread what I

say. Unless of course, you have a weakness of understanding of English.

[Guest guest]

i dont think a lp has anything do with it. i'm 4'2 and drink 6 r 8 beers and

couple of jager bombs and stiill going strong

Gretchen Buckalew <trophywife05@...> wrote: I agree -

[Guest guest]

I never refused anything. Please stick to the facts.

Thank you.

Nathasha

www.audacitymagazine.com

Randy Bradford <bradfra@...> wrote:

List,

Please see my rebuttal below:

>

> And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

> theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

>

> If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

> their members, especially one who has brought the ups

> and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

> for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

> daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

> for them, I won't now.

>

Several reasons:

1. The request was made to present the award at the 50th anniversary

celebration. This was not the appropriate time to present an award

from a non-LP entity to ANYONE - LPA member or otherwise. This event

was to honor LPA and the memory of its founder.

2. By presenting the award to Matt AT THAT EVENT, we would have

mistreated the rest of our members.

3. The presenter was offered general assembly meetings and the

banquet to make her presentation. She refused.

4. LPA as an organization does not mistreat its members. Some

individuals within LPA tend to mistreat each other. LPA has a history

and a culture that " outsiders " sometimes do not understand.

5. As mentioned in another post, Matt has done some mudslinging at

other LPA members as well - he is hardly an innocent victim in all

this. He has done a lot of good for little people with the show and

this has provided some redemption for him.

6. LPA will take no official position on Matt's situation. It did

not happen at an LPA function, so LPA has no say in this whatsoever.

Matt is subject to the judgement of the courts.

Your anger toward LPA I believe is based on some misinformation and

what has transpired on this list. This is not the true picture of LPA

and LPA should not be judged this way. However, what you do with your

money is your business....

Randy Bradford

Director

LPA District 11

Nathasha Alvarez

Founder and Editor-In-Chief

http://www.audacitymagazine.com

The disabled magazine for the able mind.

Personal weblog is http://www.audaciouslady.com

and now I have http://www.myspace.com/audaciouslady

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[Guest guest]

Nathtasha,

I was standing right there when Lois offered the General Assembly and

the Banquet to you. You refused because you were leaving.

Please check your facts.

Thanks,

Randy Bradford

Director - District 11

List,

>

> Please see my rebuttal below:

>

> >

> > And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

> > theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

> >

> > If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

> > their members, especially one who has brought the ups

> > and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

> > for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

> > daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

> > for them, I won't now.

> >

>

> Several reasons:

>

> 1. The request was made to present the award at the 50th

anniversary

> celebration. This was not the appropriate time to present an

award

> from a non-LP entity to ANYONE - LPA member or otherwise. This

event

> was to honor LPA and the memory of its founder.

>

> 2. By presenting the award to Matt AT THAT EVENT, we would have

> mistreated the rest of our members.

>

> 3. The presenter was offered general assembly meetings and the

> banquet to make her presentation. She refused.

>

> 4. LPA as an organization does not mistreat its members. Some

> individuals within LPA tend to mistreat each other. LPA has a

history

> and a culture that " outsiders " sometimes do not understand.

>

> 5. As mentioned in another post, Matt has done some mudslinging

at

> other LPA members as well - he is hardly an innocent victim in all

> this. He has done a lot of good for little people with the show

and

> this has provided some redemption for him.

>

> 6. LPA will take no official position on Matt's situation. It

did

> not happen at an LPA function, so LPA has no say in this

whatsoever.

> Matt is subject to the judgement of the courts.

>

> Your anger toward LPA I believe is based on some misinformation

and

> what has transpired on this list. This is not the true picture of

LPA

> and LPA should not be judged this way. However, what you do with

your

> money is your business....

>

> Randy Bradford

> Director

> LPA District 11

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Nathasha Alvarez

> Founder and Editor-In-Chief

> http://www.audacitymagazine.com

> The disabled magazine for the able mind.

> Personal weblog is http://www.audaciouslady.com

> and now I have http://www.myspace.com/audaciouslady

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Me now thinks someone justused the award to get on TV and obtain FREE publicity

for a blog they own?

Things that make ya go hmmmmm...

From: Randy Bradford

> Nathtasha,

>

> I was standing right there when Lois offered the General

> Assembly and

> the Banquet to you. You refused because you were leaving.

[Guest guest]

Natasha, enough already.

Stop slamming LPA.

We love it and support it. Also to Call your " Blog " a Magazine is like Ann

Coulter calling herself a Journalist.

All you're doing is slandering (LPA) and  volunteers  of a  501c 3 Disability/

Social  Support group that has gained worldwide recognition and outstanding

reputation in Advocacy and improved thousands of lives.

They Have D & O insurance and lots of lawyers that I'm sure would gladly defend

them pro bono if you continue your claims.

What's your end game, a cynic might think this has more to do with you getting

yourself on TV in an effort to publicize your blog.

Leave LPA alone already

You're not helping yourself or the Disabled community one bit.

--

From: Nathasha Alvarez

Date: Friday, August 3, 2007 11:49 am

Randy Bradford , dwarfism

> I never refused anything. Please stick to the facts.

>

> Thank you.

> Nathasha

> www.audacitymagazine.com

>

>

> Randy Bradford wrote:

> List,

>

> Please see my rebuttal below:

>

> >

> > And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

> > theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

> >

> > If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

> > their members, especially one who has brought the ups

> > and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

> > for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

> > daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

> > for them, I won't now.

> >

>

> Several reasons:

>

> 1. The request was made to present the award at the 50th

> anniversary

> celebration. This was not the appropriate time to present an

> award

> from a non-LP entity to ANYONE - LPA member or otherwise. This

> event

> was to honor LPA and the memory of its founder.

>

> 2. By presenting the award to Matt AT THAT EVENT, we would

> have

> mistreated the rest of our members.

>

> 3. The presenter was offered general assembly meetings and the

> banquet to make her presentation. She refused.

>

> 4. LPA as an organization does not mistreat its members. Some

> individuals within LPA tend to mistreat each other. LPA has a

> history

> and a culture that " outsiders " sometimes do not understand.

>

> 5. As mentioned in another post, Matt has done some

> mudslinging at

> other LPA members as well - he is hardly an innocent victim in

> all

> this. He has done a lot of good for little people with the

> show and

> this has provided some redemption for him.

>

> 6. LPA will take no official position on Matt's situation. It

> did

> not happen at an LPA function, so LPA has no say in this

> whatsoever.

> Matt is subject to the judgement of the courts.

>

> Your anger toward LPA I believe is based on some misinformation

> and

> what has transpired on this list. This is not the true picture

> of LPA

> and LPA should not be judged this way. However, what you do

> with your

> money is your business....

>

> Randy Bradford

> Director

> LPA District 11

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Nathasha Alvarez

> Founder and Editor-In-Chief

> http://www.audacitymagazine.com

> The disabled magazine for the able mind.

> Personal weblog is http://www.audaciouslady.com

> and now I have http://www.myspace.com/audaciouslady

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Tony,

Stop twising words.

I am not bashing LPA. I am upset that people are

twisting things around to suit their needs.

I can't logically accept to present an award when I

wasn't going to be there nor was Matt. So that doesn't

even make on iota of sense.

Had I been there the entire week and refused then that

would be understandable.

Now if you want to attack my website. That is your

choice and your opinion.

However, this blog, site, magazine, whatever you want

to call it, received an award for its work.

So even if everyone here who refuses to look at facts

were to say terrible things about my work and

audacitymagazine.com, it still wouldn't take away from

what it has accomplished.

I feel terrible that all of you have stooped so low to

convince people that you are right.

If a person has made up their minds let them be that

way. I posted my side and invited everyone to post

theirs. But no one will publicly refute what I have

written for publication so it's not as if I am not

giving the readers a fair shake. Go for it.

Try to tell readers that audacitymagazine.com's

founder refused to give an award on a particular day

because she had plane reservations to leave two days

PRIOR to that day. Then see how silly that sounds.

You might not like what I wrote in the magazine but at

least I don't say illogical statements.

THINK PEOPLE THINK!

If I wasn't going to be there and Matt wasn't going to

be there then why present an award when neither party

would be there???

[Guest guest]

TS,

How logical would it be accept an invitation to present an award where

neither she nor the recipient would be present? And why not simply

read the article and understand that she is upset because she was told

yes and then 15 minutes after the event began she was told no? And

that the invitation extended to her was extended to her after having

the rug pulled out from under her at 7:30 pm monday night. I believe

Lois was aware that she was leaving the next day.

Personally, I have nothing against either parties involved. I believe

it was just miscommunication. But, I DO think its silly to call

Audacity a blog. I think you lack a full comprehension of media, what

is and what isn't media, in this day and age.

Rich Alcantara

>

> Me now thinks someone justused the award to get on TV and obtain

FREE publicity for a blog they own?

> Things that make ya go hmmmmm...

>

>

>

> From: Randy Bradford

>

> > Nathtasha,

> >

> > I was standing right there when Lois offered the General

> > Assembly and

> > the Banquet to you. You refused because you were leaving.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Natasha,

Congratulations on your Blog award.

Where was the award presented? Hopefully the presentation did not disrupt a

preplanned event that was in the work for almost 2 years.

Yes, you did get a pic present Matt with the Award, but you then used it to

nmake your case against LPA's conference committee.

You could have shown the photo, congratulated Matt and his family on your blog

and there would be no argument from me.

Instead you chose to use it as a vehicle to disrupt this list, the conference

volunteers and smear LPA on your " Award winning " site.

Why couldn't you have just stopped there? The recipient got the award, you ot a

photo. Mission should have been accomplished.

But no. You ripped.

You should be glad though, I'm sure more folks have gone to read your site since

the arugment here ensued, than days, months or years prior?

Obviously you lost your case, nobody is listening to subject any longer.

If I were still VP of PR for LPA, you would have had a much less gentile

response to your little spoiled display.

--

Re: Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

tonysoares@..., dwarfism

> Tony,

>

> Stop twising words.

>

> I am not bashing LPA. I am upset that people are

> twisting things around to suit their needs.

>

> I can't logically accept to present an award when I

> wasn't going to be there nor was Matt. So that doesn't

> even make on iota of sense.

>

[Guest guest]

I work for the 3rd largest AD agency in the U.S. I think I know the difference.

Thank you very much

Tony

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

dwarfism

> TS,

>

> How logical would it be accept an invitation to present an award where

> neither she nor the recipient would be present? And why not simply

> read the article and understand that she is upset because she

> was told

> yes and then 15 minutes after the event began she was told no? And

> that the invitation extended to her was extended to her after having

> the rug pulled out from under her at 7:30 pm monday night. I believe

> Lois was aware that she was leaving the next day.

>

> Personally, I have nothing against either parties involved. I believe

> it was just miscommunication. But, I DO think its silly to call

> Audacity a blog. I think you lack a full comprehension of media, what

> is and what isn't media, in this day and age.

>

> Rich Alcantara

>

>

> >

> > Me now thinks someone justused the award to get on TV and obtain

> FREE publicity for a blog they own?

> > Things that make ya go hmmmmm...

> >

> >

> >

> > From: Randy Bradford

> >

> > > Nathtasha,

> > >

> > > I was standing right there when Lois offered the General

> > > Assembly and

> > > the Banquet to you. You refused because you were leaving.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Fred (and Tony)---

I agree that this is an historic day...this is one of the first major

issues I've agreed with Tony on, too :-)...

From: http://www.answers.com/blogs (WeBLOG) A Web site that contains

dated entries in reverse chronological order (most recent first) about

a particular topic. Functioning as an online journal, blogs can be

written by one person or a group of contributors. Entries contain

commentary and links to other Web sites, and images as well as a

search facility may also be included.

Using that definition, to call Audacity a " magazine " (even an

" e-zine " ) wouldn't be appropriate. There is no news, and there's

certainly few facts in any of your writings. This is NOT to say that

Nathasha's not entitled to post her own opinions. It is to say, that

if you're going to say something as if it was fact, you better make

sure it's indisputable.

>

> Natasha,

>

> Congratulations on your Blog award.

>

> Where was the award presented? Hopefully the presentation did not

disrupt a preplanned event that was in the work for almost 2 years.

>

> Yes, you did get a pic present Matt with the Award, but you then

used it to nmake your case against LPA's conference committee.

>

> You could have shown the photo, congratulated Matt and his family on

your blog and there would be no argument from me.

>

> Instead you chose to use it as a vehicle to disrupt this list, the

conference volunteers and smear LPA on your " Award winning " site.

>

>

>

> Why couldn't you have just stopped there? The recipient got the

award, you ot a photo. Mission should have been accomplished.

> But no. You ripped.

>

>

> You should be glad though, I'm sure more folks have gone to read

your site since the arugment here ensued, than days, months or years

prior?

>

> Obviously you lost your case, nobody is listening to subject any longer.

>

> If I were still VP of PR for LPA, you would have had a much less

gentile response to your little spoiled display.

>

> --

>

>

> Re: Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

> tonysoares@..., dwarfism

>

> > Tony,

> >

> > Stop twising words.

> >

> > I am not bashing LPA. I am upset that people are

> > twisting things around to suit their needs.

> >

> > I can't logically accept to present an award when I

> > wasn't going to be there nor was Matt. So that doesn't

> > even make on iota of sense.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Of course, makes perfect sense! You work for OLD media. Now i see your

lack of comprehension.

Rich

> > >

> > > Me now thinks someone justused the award to get on TV and obtain

> > FREE publicity for a blog they own?

> > > Things that make ya go hmmmmm...

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > From: Randy Bradford

> > >

> > > > Nathtasha,

> > > >

> > > > I was standing right there when Lois offered the General

> > > > Assembly and

> > > > the Banquet to you. You refused because you were leaving.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

i am sad about hearing this and even more so on many of the comments posted.

Yes he (Matt) made a very bad judgment but then again most due if under the

influence. More so who has not made a poor choice. maybe not getting behind the

wheel there is no excuse..however, would this be national news if he was just

another Joe? So here we are including myself having thoughts about the arrest.

Why wouldn't we? Then again, he never claimed at anytime to be anything but

human right. Humans make mistakes.... you can accept that or not... Me I still

have faith that this does not make him a bad person, just a person who made a

bad choice. I see this everyday in my job and most of the time the arrest is

only made worse because of the identity of the person. It does not justify by

any means however, like many are asking does alcohol alter a LP more so then an

average person. I say yes because of weight... and how long has his family been

on TV now. How many times have you seen

him drink...would the network really keep him on if it was a problem. I hope

not...

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