Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

[Guest guest]

I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-shots though!

Last week the family released a book titled, " Little Family, Big Values. "

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_073007_news_roloff_arrest.c98aa4ba.htm\

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http://www.columbian.com/news/localNews/07302007news175906.cfm

Karolyn

who is 100% a tee-totaler and has ZERO tolerance for a drunk driver....

especially the repeat offenders!

Matt Roloff in the news again

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[Guest guest]

Look,

I must confess I snickered to myself when I saw this and discussed

the issued with a small list of friends who heard as well.--Then I

had to look within and say to myself, have I ever had a drink and

driven home? Am I perfect?

Everyone makes mistakes.

Matt is a human being. He's a father. A Husband. And he's done a

world of good for LP's.

I've never seen him overtly drunk or out of control at Conference,

and that's something I wonder if quite a few of our peers can say?

Let's be thankful for his family and others that he and nobody else

was hurt and allow the Roloffs to deal with this.

The other issue here is, The media will no doubt exploit this as

" See those Little People are Partyers " --So I think (just me) that we

stand by our friends in times like this-celebrity, personality, love

him or despise him.

Matt is one of us.

Matt represents us.

Tony Soares

On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Karolyn wrote:

> I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-

> shots though! Last week the family released a book titled, " Little

> Family, Big Values. "

[Guest guest]

Personally, I think we should wait to see what the court/judge rules

before we make any judgements. Celebrity or not.

Irene

>

> > I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-

> > shots though! Last week the family released a book titled, " Little

> > Family, Big Values. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with Irene, as I did read (on my own thru other links on it)

that he did plead not guilty, and that he did refused the test which

I also know is kinda like an admission in and by itself that he was

under the influence or why refuse it, according to the law, that is,

I think? Any lawyers on here?

At the same I agree with Karolyn, as I am also thankful that NO one

got killed, including himself:). And like Karolyn I am also a

tee-totaler, but for me for spiritual and for family reasons because

I've just seen firsthand the destruction of what drinking does to

one's self, individually, and to one's family and friends. Thank God

for Alateen and Alanon:).

> who is 100% a tee-totaler and has ZERO tolerance for a drunk

driver.... especially the repeat offenders

But it only goes to show we're all human, small and tall, even in the

way we fail or fall too, as I think said, " No one is

perfect, " save one whom I choose to call God-my words, not in quotes.

luv, grady

> Personally, I think we should wait to see what the court/judge rules

before we make any judgements. Celebrity or not.

> Irene

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Grady <gradysir@...> wrote: I agree

with Irene, as I did read (on my own thru other links on it)

that he did plead not guilty, and that he did refused the test which

I also know is kinda like an admission in and by itself that he was

under the influence or why refuse it, according to the law, that is,

I think? Any lawyers on here?

At the same I agree with Karolyn, as I am also thankful that NO one

got killed, including himself:). And like Karolyn I am also a

tee-totaler, but for me for spiritual and for family reasons because

I've just seen firsthand the destruction of what drinking does to

one's self, individually, and to one's family and friends. Thank God

for Alateen and Alanon:).

> who is 100% a tee-totaler and has ZERO tolerance for a drunk

driver.... especially the repeat offenders

But it only goes to show we're all human, small and tall, even in the

way we fail or fall too, as I think said, " No one is

perfect, " save one whom I choose to call God-my words, not in quotes.

luv, grady

> Personally, I think we should wait to see what the court/judge rules

before we make any judgements. Celebrity or not.

> Irene

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[Guest guest]

Only got one thing to say, and I aint religious, but doesn't it say in the bible

something about letting him who is guiltless throw the first stone?

I don't think there is one amongst us, so innocent of all sin that he/she can

even contemplate being judgemental.

Fred

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Personally, I think we should wait to see what the court/judge rules

before we make any judgements. Celebrity or not.

Irene

>

> > I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-

> > shots though! Last week the family released a book titled, " Little

> > Family, Big Values. "

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bloody hell Tony! History HAS to be made today. This must be the first time in

all the years you and I have been on the internet that I have agreed with you

one hundred percent. You speak well my friend.

Fred

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Look,

I must confess I snickered to myself when I saw this and discussed

the issued with a small list of friends who heard as well.--Then I

had to look within and say to myself, have I ever had a drink and

driven home? Am I perfect?

Everyone makes mistakes.

Matt is a human being. He's a father. A Husband. And he's done a

world of good for LP's.

I've never seen him overtly drunk or out of control at Conference,

and that's something I wonder if quite a few of our peers can say?

Let's be thankful for his family and others that he and nobody else

was hurt and allow the Roloffs to deal with this.

The other issue here is, The media will no doubt exploit this as

" See those Little People are Partyers " --So I think (just me) that we

stand by our friends in times like this-celebrity, personality, love

him or despise him.

Matt is one of us.

Matt represents us.

Tony Soares

On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Karolyn wrote:

> I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-

> shots though! Last week the family released a book titled, " Little

> Family, Big Values. "

[Guest guest]

Yes Tony, none of us are perfect but I still stand by my statement that I am

glad he has not killed anyone with his drunken driving! His arrest record are

for ONLY the two times he got caught DUI! The mistakes all of us make or have

made do not always involve the possibility of homicide!

We are not privy to the inner workings of everyone's lives! We do not have to

see someone drunk to admit they have been. We do not have to see someone cheat

on or abuse their spouse to realize they have done it! (Before anyone miss-reads

that I am not saying Matt abuses or cheats on anyone it was just an example that

no one totally knows what goes on)

Surely there are other LPS who can represent and serve as good role models for

the LP youth! Barty, Dr Ain, and the list goes on and on... I surely do

not want my 10 year old to look at Matt as a role model!

To be fair what this DOES show is that no one represents ALL of the LP and that

other than height there are as few similarities between the personalities, likes

and dislikes of LP as there are among AS people. We are all unique and make good

and bad choices. So since Matt chooses to drink and drive and got caught for the

second time he needs to pay the piper like everyone else is required to.

Karolyn

Imperfect as the rest of us!

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

Look,

I must confess I snickered to myself when I saw this and discussed

the issued with a small list of friends who heard as well.--Then I

had to look within and say to myself, have I ever had a drink and

driven home? Am I perfect?

Everyone makes mistakes.

Matt is a human being. He's a father. A Husband. And he's done a

world of good for LP's.

I've never seen him overtly drunk or out of control at Conference,

and that's something I wonder if quite a few of our peers can say?

Let's be thankful for his family and others that he and nobody else

was hurt and allow the Roloffs to deal with this.

The other issue here is, The media will no doubt exploit this as

" See those Little People are Partyers " --So I think (just me) that we

stand by our friends in times like this-celebrity, personality, love

him or despise him.

Matt is one of us.

Matt represents us.

Tony Soares

On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Karolyn wrote:

> I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the process! Nice mug-

> shots though! Last week the family released a book titled, " Little

> Family, Big Values. "

[Guest guest]

Oh Karoline, I'm sorry but I have to totally disagree with you.

Personally, Lin and I have watched every episode of the Two Series we have

had the privilage of being shown over here in England and each time, we are

just full of admiration for the down to earth, no nonsense, no

sensationalistic way that Matt and his family are serving who whole of our

community in inculcating to the general public, just how ordinary we are -

and yes, that includes not being faltless.

If turns out as well adjusted as members of Matt's family, then she

will be a truly gifted woman. Especially if she follows in the down to

earth footsteps of his long suffering wife, Amy:-)

If we are not careful on this list, we are going to be judge and jury and

come in with a sentence, even before the real crew.

Why is it, we are so keen to demolish one of our own group, when in truth,

we should be showing solidarity and strength AND, understanding AND

forgiveness to each other.

Isn't that what life and Christianity is all about?

Fred

----- Original Message -----

From: Karolyn

I surely do not want my 10 year old to look at Matt as a role

model!

To be fair what this DOES show is that no one represents ALL of the LP and

that other than height there are as few similarities between the

personalities, likes and dislikes of LP as there are among AS people. We are

all unique and make good and bad choices. So since Matt chooses to drink and

drive and got caught for the second time he needs to pay the piper like

everyone else is required to.

Karolyn

[Guest guest]

i wonder if anything will said about this on lp big world

Karolyn <Puggy_Sue@...> wrote: Yes Tony, none of us are

perfect but I still stand by my statement that I am glad he has not killed

anyone with his

[Guest guest]

But Karolyn,

Nobody was killed. Okay.

Actually what is does show is that he's human like the rest of us.

The Courts will deal with this. I do know folks that have been pulled over for

DUI that have

been on certain Meds and that changed their readings. Also LP's do have a lower

blood

volume.

My Nephew looks to Jeter, Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong as Role Models.

If one of

was in this situation I don't think it would undo all the good.

I believe God forgives, I believe humans can too.

A few years back there was a story out here about kids that threw a frozen

Turkey from a

Highway overpass onto cars below. ( http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1225516

)One hit

a windshield, smashed through, almost killing the driver. After months of

reconstructive

surgery and permanent facial paralysis the woman appeared at the teen's

sentencing

hearing, she asked the judge for leniency because she said she did not want to

see another

life destroyed because she felt the youth was truly sorry.

Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

dwarfism list <dwarfism >

> Yes Tony, none of us are perfect but I still stand by my statement

> that I am glad he has not killed anyone with his drunken driving!

> His arrest record are for ONLY the two times he got caught DUI! The

> mistakes all of us make or have made do not always involve the

> possibility of homicide!

>

>

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I join with Tony, Fred, and the most of the rest of you.

If Matt Roloff were not well-known, we would never have found out about

this.

Best wishes to the Roloff family.

Dan Kennedy

On 8/1/07, tonysoares@... <tonysoares@...> wrote:

>

> But Karolyn,

> Nobody was killed. Okay.

>

> Actually what is does show is that he's human like the rest of us.

> The Courts will deal with this. I do know folks that have been pulled over

> for DUI that have

> been on certain Meds and that changed their readings. Also LP's do have a

> lower blood

> volume.

> My Nephew looks to Jeter, Tiger Woods and Lance Armstrong as Role

> Models. If one of

> was in this situation I don't think it would undo all the good.

>

> I believe God forgives, I believe humans can too.

>

> A few years back there was a story out here about kids that threw a frozen

> Turkey from a

> Highway overpass onto cars below. (

> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=1225516 )One hit

> a windshield, smashed through, almost killing the driver. After months of

> reconstructive

> surgery and permanent facial paralysis the woman appeared at the teen's

> sentencing

> hearing, she asked the judge for leniency because she said she did not

> want to see another

> life destroyed because she felt the youth was truly sorry.

>

>

>

> Re: Matt Roloff in the news again

> dwarfism list <dwarfism <dwarfism%40>>

>

> > Yes Tony, none of us are perfect but I still stand by my statement

> > that I am glad he has not killed anyone with his drunken driving!

> > His arrest record are for ONLY the two times he got caught DUI! The

> > mistakes all of us make or have made do not always involve the

> > possibility of homicide!

> >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

" I join with Tony, Fred, and the most of the rest of you. If Matt

Roloff were not well-known, we would never have found out about this. "

I agree 100% Dan. Apparently it was nearly 2 months ago. I'm sure he's

not the only person in USA to have gotten a DUI this year. And to

suggest that he's an alcoholic and a bad role model is a bit over the

top IMO.

I haven't seen the LPBW shows (as they haven't made it here yet)but I

have read Matt's book Standing Tall (whatever it's called). If

turns out as hard working, determined and successful as Matt, I'll be

very happy. I don't know Matt personally, but from reading comments

from him and others on here, reading his books, and email exchange

etc, I would like to say to those who made the nasty comments - judge

not! No-one is perfect.

Caela

Mum to , 8, achon, NZ

[Guest guest]

I think Apryl meant this for the list......

Did anyone ever deem Matt Roloff " Saint Mathew? " No. Id say he is a

human being and human beings make mistakes. Some of us are just

better at admitting it than others. It becomes a whole different

issue when DUI is a habitual thing. Who is to say how we would

function in Matt's shoes with the kind of pressure with health of his

own and his familys', especially with regards to his physical

mobility, the leg surggery and shunt surgery hsi son had...and his

business and running the farm. Fred, you were right. The Bible

does say " let ye who is without sin cast the first stone " , as well as

" Judge not.... " Id say Matt's plate is pretty full. I think he is

a stand-up guy who will accept culpability for his poor judgement that

led to a DUI.

Apryl

[Guest guest]

I've read all the posts on Matt and his arrest. I have

also read where this is the second time he's been

arrested in 4 years, and how Matt was chosen to

recieve an award that LPA put a stop to.

Matt Roloff is HUMAN, he MAKES MISTAKES, just like the

rest of us. To sit there and play judge, jury and

executioner is ridiculous! I for one am going to wait

and see how this plays out in the JUDICIAL SYSTEM, not

the GROUP LIST!

And why did LPA deny Matt an award that wasn't even

theirs? It was from a MAGAZINE!

If this is how LPA's membership is going to treat

their members, especially one who has brought the ups

and downs of being an LP into the mainstream media, I

for one absolutely refuse to submit my sister and her

daughter to this. I was going to pay their memberships

for them, I won't now.

Rene

Daughter of Roxie, Sister of Kylie, Aunt of Abby

(Achons)

--- Karolyn <Puggy_Sue@...> wrote:

> Yes Tony, none of us are perfect but I still stand

> by my statement that I am glad he has not killed

> anyone with his drunken driving! His arrest record

> are for ONLY the two times he got caught DUI! The

> mistakes all of us make or have made do not always

> involve the possibility of homicide!

>

> We are not privy to the inner workings of

> everyone's lives! We do not have to see someone

> drunk to admit they have been. We do not have to see

> someone cheat on or abuse their spouse to realize

> they have done it! (Before anyone miss-reads that I

> am not saying Matt abuses or cheats on anyone it was

> just an example that no one totally knows what goes

> on)

>

> Surely there are other LPS who can represent and

> serve as good role models for the LP youth!

> Barty, Dr Ain, and the list goes on and on... I

> surely do not want my 10 year old to look

> at Matt as a role model!

>

> To be fair what this DOES show is that no one

> represents ALL of the LP and that other than height

> there are as few similarities between the

> personalities, likes and dislikes of LP as there are

> among AS people. We are all unique and make good and

> bad choices. So since Matt chooses to drink and

> drive and got caught for the second time he needs to

> pay the piper like everyone else is required to.

>

> Karolyn

>

> Imperfect as the rest of us!

>

>

> Re: Matt Roloff in the news

> again

>

>

> Look,

> I must confess I snickered to myself when I saw

> this and discussed

> the issued with a small list of friends who heard

> as well.--Then I

> had to look within and say to myself, have I ever

> had a drink and

> driven home? Am I perfect?

>

> Everyone makes mistakes.

>

> Matt is a human being. He's a father. A Husband.

> And he's done a

> world of good for LP's.

>

> I've never seen him overtly drunk or out of

> control at Conference,

> and that's something I wonder if quite a few of

> our peers can say?

>

> Let's be thankful for his family and others that

> he and nobody else

> was hurt and allow the Roloffs to deal with this.

>

> The other issue here is, The media will no doubt

> exploit this as

> " See those Little People are Partyers " --So I

> think (just me) that we

> stand by our friends in times like this-celebrity,

> personality, love

> him or despise him.

>

> Matt is one of us.

>

> Matt represents us.

>

>

> Tony Soares

>

>

>

> On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:29 AM, Karolyn wrote:

>

> > I am just thankful he did not kill anyone in the

> process! Nice mug-

> > shots though! Last week the family released a

> book titled, " Little

> > Family, Big Values. "

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> ===

>

[Guest guest]

And I would like to point out that Matt CHOSE to make himself well-known and

should have know that this kind of activity would become public after his

first arrest for DUI less than 4 years ago. I can't criticize anyone for

making him the topic of gossip when he placed himself in the limelight.

I do feel sorry for the unwarranted scrutiny this will bring down on the

rest of his family, however.

Bill

On 8/1/07, Dan Kennedy <dan@...> wrote:

>

> I join with Tony, Fred, and the most of the rest of you.

>

> If Matt Roloff were not well-known, we would never have found out about

> this.

>

> Best wishes to the Roloff family.

>

> Dan Kennedy

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I can see

it clearly.

Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that his every

move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do we all. 'We'

that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the slightest foot

wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell if we do ANYTHING,

then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the press. Yes, he has gained

fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from his exploits in the media, BUT at

the same time, he has given the small statured world, a HUGE amount of

positive publicity.

Ironically, in a way, his bravery and decision to cohort (?) with the media

(something most of us abhore ever doing) has meant he pays one hell of a

personal price. A price, as we have seen so graphically on here, which

includes the alientation of his own kind towards him.

But you seem to be using this fact as some sort of way of condoning

everyone's criticism and 'assumed self rightious' attitude towards him.

Doesn't that make those people who ARE so keen to throw the stones, even

less of a person than Matt?

Fred

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill Bradford

Dan Kennedy

Cc: dwarfism

And I would like to point out that Matt CHOSE to make himself well-known and

should have know that this kind of activity would become public after his

first arrest for DUI less than 4 years ago. I can't criticize anyone for

making him the topic of gossip when he placed himself in the limelight.

I do feel sorry for the unwarranted scrutiny this will bring down on the

rest of his family, however.

Bill

[Guest guest]

Let's not " get a refusal to criticize " confused with " condoning. "

And also, long before the cameras were shining on Matt, he did his fair

share of throwing stones and " alienation of his own kind. " I agree, his

show has done much good for the positive image of dwarfs in the public and

in some measure, has redeemed him from some his previous mistreatment of

fellow LPs.

But karma rears its ugly head.

Bill

On 8/2/07, FRED <mail@...> wrote:

>

> Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I can

> see

> it clearly.

>

> Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that his

> every

> move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do we all. 'We'

> that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the slightest foot

> wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell if we do ANYTHING,

> then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the press. Yes, he has

> gained

> fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from his exploits in the media, BUT

> at

> the same time, he has given the small statured world, a HUGE amount of

> positive publicity.

>

> Ironically, in a way, his bravery and decision to cohort (?) with the

> media

> (something most of us abhore ever doing) has meant he pays one hell of a

> personal price. A price, as we have seen so graphically on here, which

> includes the alientation of his own kind towards him.

>

> But you seem to be using this fact as some sort of way of condoning

> everyone's criticism and 'assumed self rightious' attitude towards him.

> Doesn't that make those people who ARE so keen to throw the stones, even

> less of a person than Matt?

>

> Fred

>

[Guest guest]

being a bp

i mite be all wett

butt one can of beer to a man the wight of matt

mite be like 3 cans to 360 lbs me

or more if he wights liss than 1/3 my wight

and if some on is 50-60 lbs it would be like me killing a whole 6 pack

so any one out with frands mite have to say wane thay have had all

thay may drink

and real frands dont let frands drive drunk

i have helped others in truble in the past

just flat tires and no starts

ken

safemale

[Guest guest]

Ritchie, Brittney Spears, Lohan and Paris Hilton are

spoiled little rich girls, brats who buy their way out of almost everything.

None

of them offer anything even close to what I want my daughters to model

themselves after. Had they been members of average american society they

would

have been nailed to the wall and stuck in real jails without any luxuries like

phones. Come on....Brittney driving with her baby in her lap, with

coke in her pocket and Paris with her ties to the Hilton Hotel chains????

Nik Nolte is an odd one for sure...Al Gore Junior didn't choose to be

scrutinized per se but did choose to behave outrageously and dangerously on his

own....Just like the Bush girls. Neither of their fathers can be blamed for

the

behavior of their adult children. As adults they were all free to choose

to be stupid. With regards to Matt Rolloff, we dont know the story behind

the story and its really none of our business. If we choose to take it

personally then we choose wrongly. Do we let the inappropriate albeit

dangerous

act of DUI negate all the good Matt has done for his fellow LPs? Or do we

support him and encourage him to get beyond it and do better?

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[Guest guest]

Fred,

If your point is that because he is a dwarf he is being scrutinized,

then explain

-Paris Hilton

- Richie

-Brittney Spears

- Lohan

-Nic Nolte

and the list goes on...including Al Gore III who didn't chose to be

scrutinized, but can thank his father for making that choice for him.

(http://www.totaldui.com/celebrity_dui_spotlight.htm)

Put yourself in front of the media and you can't delude yourself into

believing that they are only available for a lovefest. When you pursue

the media, the media responds in kind. He as a dwarf is no more in the

spotlight, for good or bad, than the others of 'his kind'.

>

> Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed if I

can see it clearly.

>

> Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so do

we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just the

slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual, hell

if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Tony and yes! I would like to add that it's all speculation at

this point and well I also saw it as some type of (if you will) publicity. I am

curious to also know how one does a sobriety test on a diastrophic dwarf without

their scooter or crutches? I believe with or without a drink or meds he would

have a bit of trouble walking straight? I'm just asking??? I doubt he was even

drunk or under any kind of narcotics. I want to see him as simply driving doing

something other than just driving ( like I do SO many times) and swerving and

then getting seen and pulled over. I am just saying.... we don't even know the

circumstances. I choose to believe in innocence until proven guilty. I'm just

thankful my friend is alive and well and not the other. C'mon like one said

" we're human regardless of our stature "

Thank you , Eileen

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[Guest guest]

I have to agree with you .

Every day (almost) that I go out, members of the public approach my

Husband and I asking if we watch " Little People, Big World " , then say

how fantastic they think it is.

I think that members of the public (if they find out about what Matt

has done, will not judge ALL little people based on Matt Roloff, and

if they do, they ignorant about little people already. I think most

people will realise just how human he is.

We don't know Matt's side of the story. And until we do I think it's

best to just leave it. Matt does read all these posts and probably

feels bad enough already.

None of us are perfect.

Faye

http://www.myspace.com/lilbittavanilla

> >

> > Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed

if I

> can see it clearly.

> >

> > Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew that

> his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then, so

do

> we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put just

the

> slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual,

hell

> if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in the

> press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune) from

> his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

> small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, you can see I made errors...but you know what I mean..lol

Faye

> > >

> > > Hmmmmm, there is a huge hole in your 'arguement' and I'm dammed

> if I

> > can see it clearly.

> > >

> > > Yes he accepted the fame and (now) the notoriety and he knew

that

> > his every move would, from there on in, be monitored, but then,

so

> do

> > we all. 'We' that is, who are dwarf. We know that if we put

just

> the

> > slightest foot wrong, if we do something even remotely unusual,

> hell

> > if we do ANYTHING, then we have a huge chance of it appearing in

the

> > press. Yes, he has gained fame (and I sincerely hope, fortune)

from

> > his exploits in the media, BUT at the same time, he has given the

> > small statured world, a HUGE amount of positive publicity.

> >

>