Re: LP Stripper - Blatant Degredation

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This is a classic case of 'one bad bean that spoiled the whole pot'.

Actions such as this from individuals like her hurt us all, and

unfortunately it will continue so long as there is an audience

(Carmen Electra) that wants it, and is willing to pay money to entice

naive young women such as her.

I'm sure this girl never went out and did this on her own, unless of

course, she's one of those 'Rent-A-Dwarf' under Danny

Blacks 'company'.

My guess is she was probably coerced by some sleazy Hollywood people

who saw her at a bar and promised her fame and fortune if she did

this gig. And naive as she was, she took it.

I hope she gets help, as this type of self-exploitation is really

just an obvious symptom of severe low self-esteem.

It's the inability to recognize your true worth and potential, as

well as the consequences of your actions.

-erin

A Very Fierce Opposer of 'Dwarf-Sploitation'

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> I just saw the Carmen Electra show on MTV and a lp stripper came on

and said her name was Mika Winkler. She was made fun of and wore a

wig and acting like a twelve year old, holding a stuffed animal as

she stripped off her clothes, the crowd was making fun of her,

whispering, and laughing all while making it look like they were

cheering her on.

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> I know it isn't me, but I am very sad about it, and embarrased. Why

would she choose to do this? I know to each their own , but I hope no

one I know saw this because I was so embarrased.

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[Guest guest]

Maybe someone should moderate budlite961 for the following email I got from

him:

it has nothing to do with MTV at all buddy, every message i have read about

this subject is totally uninformed about nething regarding this, i swear i

am gonna smack the shit out of the next person who complains about this, you

should be happy for mika, she is getting paid, doing something she wants to

do, cant you people see this, fucking christ, its not like they put a bullet

to her head and said strip for MTV. she chose to do this, and if one more

person says something bad about carmen for this, i will beat u silly.

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, but I probably should not have approved this message. While most of

it is okay, there was an unprovoked personal attack at Danny Black. This is

against list policy.

is not alone, however. This is not the first email in recent weeks that

has pushed the envelope of that policy. I've seen quite a few.

From now on, I'm going to be stricter about people leveraging public personal

attacks on other list members. Take it off list if you must flame someone.

Thank you,

Bill Bradford

List Moderator

Re: LP Stripper - Blatant Degredation

This is a classic case of 'one bad bean that spoiled the whole pot'.

Actions such as this from individuals like her hurt us all, and

unfortunately it will continue so long as there is an audience

(Carmen Electra) that wants it, and is willing to pay money to entice

naive young women such as her.

I'm sure this girl never went out and did this on her own, unless of

course, she's one of those 'Rent-A-Dwarf' under Danny

Blacks 'company'.

My guess is she was probably coerced by some sleazy Hollywood people

who saw her at a bar and promised her fame and fortune if she did

this gig. And naive as she was, she took it.

I hope she gets help, as this type of self-exploitation is really

just an obvious symptom of severe low self-esteem.

It's the inability to recognize your true worth and potential, as

well as the consequences of your actions.

-erin

A Very Fierce Opposer of 'Dwarf-Sploitation'

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> I just saw the Carmen Electra show on MTV and a lp stripper came on

and said her name was Mika Winkler. She was made fun of and wore a

wig and acting like a twelve year old, holding a stuffed animal as

she stripped off her clothes, the crowd was making fun of her,

whispering, and laughing all while making it look like they were

cheering her on.

>

> I know it isn't me, but I am very sad about it, and embarrased. Why

would she choose to do this? I know to each their own , but I hope no

one I know saw this because I was so embarrased.

>

>

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> You Rock! Your E-mail should, too. Visit Rock.com!

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[Guest guest]

From time to time this comes up on this list. Where I would not choose to strip

for my own reasons, it seems that is up to the person involved. Yes. It may be

that women shouldn't strip, but it seems that this is particularly wrong in some

eyes because we are discussing a dwarf woman.

As for blaming someone for enticing her, on supposition, we are all responsible

for our own behavior and ultimately for our own choices.

As a woman, I don't feel hurt that she chose to strip. It doesn't seem to

matter whether she was a dwarf or not. ly it doesn't matter. Her choice

is something she has to live with. It seems like it gets carried a bit too far.

Not every human being will be respectable and wise; it is a fact of life.

Look at Janet . I wonder if the black community is saying that what she

did hurt them all...It was good for a laugh, and some people got offended, but

it did little to the black movement or the advancement of rights for African

American people I should think.

And that is my opinion...not that anyone asked for it. :-)

Willow

Re: LP Stripper - Blatant Degredation

This is a classic case of 'one bad bean that spoiled the whole pot'.

Actions such as this from individuals like her hurt us all, and

unfortunately it will continue so long as there is an audience

(Carmen Electra) that wants it, and is willing to pay money to entice

naive young women such as her.

I'm sure this girl never went out and did this on her own, unless of

course, she's one of those 'Rent-A-Dwarf' under Danny

Blacks 'company'.

My guess is she was probably coerced by some sleazy Hollywood people

who saw her at a bar and promised her fame and fortune if she did

this gig. And naive as she was, she took it.

I hope she gets help, as this type of self-exploitation is really

just an obvious symptom of severe low self-esteem.

It's the inability to recognize your true worth and potential, as

well as the consequences of your actions.

-erin

A Very Fierce Opposer of 'Dwarf-Sploitation'

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> I just saw the Carmen Electra show on MTV and a lp stripper came on

and said her name was Mika Winkler. She was made fun of and wore a

wig and acting like a twelve year old, holding a stuffed animal as

she stripped off her clothes, the crowd was making fun of her,

whispering, and laughing all while making it look like they were

cheering her on.

>

> I know it isn't me, but I am very sad about it, and embarrased. Why

would she choose to do this? I know to each their own , but I hope no

one I know saw this because I was so embarrased.

>

>

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> You Rock! Your E-mail should, too. Visit Rock.com!

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[Guest guest]

i sent a private message to some one saying she mite have been

smiling all the way to the bank

At 09:00 PM 2/5/2004, LittleMagicMan@... wrote:

>Maybe someone should moderate budlite961 for the following email I got from

>him:

>

>it has nothing to do with MTV at all buddy, every message i have read about

>this subject is totally uninformed about nething regarding this, i swear i

>am gonna smack the shit out of the next person who complains about this, you

>should be happy for mika, she is getting paid, doing something she wants to

>do, cant you people see this, fucking christ, its not like they put a bullet

>to her head and said strip for MTV. she chose to do this, and if one more

>person says something bad about carmen for this, i will beat u silly.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I really wish you would have forwarded that email directly to the list moderator

(me) instead of publicly posting it.

I will warn this person that threatening another list member is cause to be

banned. But other than that, everyone has a right to express their opinions in

private to any other individual.

Bill Bradford

List Moderator

[Guest guest]

Oh, come on why is it that when and if an LP does something " Out of

the Loop " of what the majority feels is or is not apropriate, all of

a sudden it's someone else's fault or the person needs help? Did it

ever occur that possably that the person may just want to go out and

strip? Maybe thats her thing. I have talked to this person severail

times and trust me she is not stupid.

I get the feeling that she is really not interested in being owned or

enslaved by the LP world and honestly therefore its really " Her

buseness " .

Kurt~

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> > I just saw the Carmen Electra show on MTV and a lp stripper came

on

> and said her name was Mika Winkler. She was made fun of and wore a

> wig and acting like a twelve year old, holding a stuffed animal as

> she stripped off her clothes, the crowd was making fun of her,

> whispering, and laughing all while making it look like they were

> cheering her on.

> >

> > I know it isn't me, but I am very sad about it, and embarrased.

Why

> would she choose to do this? I know to each their own , but I hope

no

> one I know saw this because I was so embarrased.

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