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In a message dated 9/23/2006 3:27:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdy@... writes:

If a lot of people here have gotten a click, does anyone remember what the consensus was about what causes it and if there's a fix?

I think I'm going into this thing much too optimistically.

Ann

Ann, if you are truly in great pain you will be so surprised how much better the after pain is, and I have sort of a crunching in one of my new knees and the Dr. said I needed to exercise my quads. Plus it doesn't hurt and that's such a plus. I mean of course it's going to hurt, but it's such a different sort of pain and it's a healing pain. You'll do great.

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdy@... writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 3:27:44 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

If a lot of people here have gotten a click, does anyone remember what the consensus was about what causes it and if there's a fix?

I think I'm going into this thing much too optimistically.

Ann

Ann, if you are truly in great pain you will be so surprised how much better the after pain is, and I have sort of a crunching in one of my new knees and the Dr. said I needed to exercise my quads. Plus it doesn't hurt and that's such a plus. I mean of course it's going to hurt, but it's such a different sort of pain and it's a healing pain. You'll do great.

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Thanks for your encouragement. I had one doctor tell me that, at 60, I was too young for a TKR. That's flattering but didn't help my destroyed lifestyle. I've gained weight and eat hardly anything & can't get any lower because of my inability to get regular exercise (I did get down to "only" 15 lb overweight, but it just hovers there).

Thanks again.

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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In a message dated 9/24/2006 1:29:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdy@... writes:

Thanks for your encouragement. I had one doctor tell me that, at 60, I was too young for a TKR. That's flattering but didn't help my destroyed lifestyle. I've gained weight and eat hardly anything & can't get any lower because of my inability to get regular exercise (I did get down to "only" 15 lb overweight, but it just hovers there).

Thanks again.

Ann

Hi Ann, I've gained weight, AGAIN, since I've had my replacements. I did notice a difference, but I'm working on loosing it again. I had back surgery about 9 months before my RTKR and I didn't give a care wether I ate or not so of course I lost weight, but it wasn't the right way. I really don't notice my knees hurting more from the weight, but it's really my back, but that throws everything off and my feet hurt too. Has anyone had that happen?

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Ann,

Likely you will loose weight in the hospital post TKR. I lost about 10 pounds.

Al Welch

From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 11:29 AMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Popping/Clicking in RTKT done on June 16, 2...

Thanks for your encouragement. I had one doctor tell me that, at 60, I was too young for a TKR. That's flattering but didn't help my destroyed lifestyle. I've gained weight and eat hardly anything & can't get any lower because of my inability to get regular exercise (I did get down to "only" 15 lb overweight, but it just hovers there).

Thanks again.

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Really! Cool! I thought I might gain, since I'd be less active, and eating real meals the hospital would be feeding me.

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Ann,

I did not feel like eating after anesthesia the first day. Then the food was not that great at the hospital where I had my surgery done. Even now, 8-9 weeks later I find my appatite is reduced and probably pain meds help to supress it.

Al

From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:57 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Popping/Clicking in RTKT done on June 16, 2...

Really! Cool! I thought I might gain, since I'd be less active, and eating real meals the hospital would be feeding me.

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Mmmmmmm! Sounding better all the time!

Ann

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In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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Ann,

I lost 17 lb's. The pain medication kept me from having

an appetite. The only thing that was appealing was yogurt, cottage cheese and bananas. Just the smell of meat

made me ill. Once I was able to back off on the pain meds

my appetite came back with vengeance and I gained it

all plus some back.

I eat when I'm upset or depressed. Now that I'm looking

at replacing the replacement I eat everything that isn't

nailed down and beginning to resemble the Goodyear

Blimp. My jeans are very tight and I sleep way to much.

Sherry

Re: Re: Popping/Clicking in RTKT done on June 16, 2...

In a message dated 9/23/2006 9:18:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ruby2zdyearthlink (DOT) net writes:

Well, you see, that's the problem. Since I have chondromalacia, but not arthritis, I haven't been walking around on painful knees for years. I'm just limited to not getting enough exercise because if I do anything repetitive for too long (say, longer than half an hour), I end up in pain & can't do it the next day). I'm sure many of you here would like to give me a little push in the chest and tell me how well off I am, but I went from climbing mtns and skiing to not being able to get enough exercise to stay healthy. And my menisci are falling apart -- have had two partial meniscectomies, one on each knee, and there are more tears now. So arthritis and TKR are inevitable, and since I'm 64, I don't have time to spend 10 years in excruciating pain.

So I go into the surgery without daily pain. I don't mind having daily pain, as long as it doesn't build like the chondromalacia pain & keep me from doing the things I want to do after the surgery -- bicycling, hiking, walking long distances, and, if I can convince my doctor that this is not really like real rowing, www.rowbike.com.

I'm working hard to strengthen my quads & hams and also stretch them. I'm hoping that a lot of the problems people have had with recovery and PT have been due to the fact that they weren't able to do the exercises necessary to strengthen and stretch those muscles.

Thanks for your note.

Ann

Hi Ann, you know what? You'll still be better in the long run. I couldn't even remember what it was like to not have my knees hurt. Mine kinda started out like yours when I was 26, but everyone just kinda said, you've got to be kidding, and it didn't hurt all of the time. It finally got so bad about 10 years ago that I was miserable. I was about 35 then and they said I had to wait until I was 50. One Dr. even said that if I did it before then it would be a disaster, his exact words. Finally when I was 46 I got a Dr. to take me seriously. So from basically when I was 26 my mobility had been getting worse and worse I was sooo ready to get them done. That's kinda the same I guess. Anyway, you need to get them fixed and it's not that bad. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

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