Re: Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??

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Before my revision I had to attend a hospital video session and discussion

about having a hip replacement. The class had about 10 in it, 2 having

revisions, the others having primary hips.

I looked at those coming for primary hips and you could see the depression

and missery in their faces. I looked, and I remembered what life had been

for me pre-op. The two having revisions didn't have that depression and

missery. The difference was striking!

I wore out my old hip, and the new one is not a patch on the old one. At 55

I am walking like a crippled old lady and am constantly in pain although the

level is not what was there before the primary hip was done. I guess we do

what we think is right at the time and live with the consequences.

Life is miserable when you are in constant pain.

Aussie Margaret

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Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??

> Hiya

>

> I feel the same about the impact these operations can have on

> quality of life.

>

> Whilst I can understand the argument for waiting as long as possible

> as revisions may be necessary when your hip is resufaced/replaced

> early in life, I was miserable and totally depressed pre op.

>

> I was entirely bone on bone and in pain every second of every day.

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I wore out my old hip, and the new one is not a patch on the old one. >>> Know that feeling all to well myself Margaret... I understand the frustration(*S) that come with a bad THR out come however some of us weren't lucky enough to get the second year in before a revision was necessary. 14 yrs. is a good haul on an implant of any sort although you've not got what you'd like~ you certainly were amoung the blessed.

At 55 I am walking like a crippled old lady and am constantly in pain although the level is not what was there before the primary hip was done. >>> There again very blessed.... I'm 35 still raising 2 kids and using a cane for the majority of my walking these days. Yet I still find myself being greatful that I wasn't in my 20's when it happened. I agree about the pain issue too.... mine also was "better" if that's what you want to call it that after THR, course I'm sure you too also are hoping to find the "just good" part about it all.

I guess we do what we think is right at the time and live with the consequences. Life is miserable when you are in constant pain. >>> I've managed to find the theory if it hurts at least it's still attatched and work to find humor where there is heartache instead of wasting a day feeling sorry for myself. It took me a good while to except the consequences I've been left with too... but when I sit and study upon my painful day & what I shall do with it... I consider others within it and know that I too am truly VERY blessed for although my step isn't a mighty one~ IT IS ONE and for that I'm greatful. After all a man with no legs needs no shoes for the discomforting walk ahead of him through life endeavors but I'm sure his grief & heartaches are greater then mine when he sits to ponder about his day. So I get up & refuse to let pain, nor disappointment or frustrations be what rules my day, slap on the smile (*cause you never know whom amoung you may need help finding their brighter day) and I make the most of it. Certainly does suck though that we all aren't given the gift of a flawless, healthy, in perfect shape bod to run with daily but I do believe in my heart that there is reason & purpose in it so I don't regret any of the choices I've made~ I cross one bridge at a time and do my best along the journey. I can't agree with your last statement and feel you should take a little more time to find the treasures in the life you've been given~ for with it comes a powerful voice of insight, strengthen, guidence, support & encouragement you give freely to others upon this board.... don't you think you owe at least that much to your own day as well ? It's your life and although you may not have control over what your day brings.... you do control the way you choose to spend it~ You may not have a pain free day... but your amoung the blessed that actually had one to spend. Well walking to ya my friend just remember our lives may be in a painful mess but we are still yet amoung the very blessed!

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I can't imagine what a 26 YO would face if he did it now. >>> S/he will face nothing more or less then each of us have in it. It's a personal choice in quality of life... course when considering, one has to realize that just because we "want it" that's no sign we actually "get it"... but hopefully with technology advancement, grace of God and body that wills.... they'll be 66+ before they even have to consider the options of revision and have no problems in the mean time.

Hopefully we make our decision based on all the facts and don't go into this believing that life will go on normally without penelty >>> Agreed... it's a very my way kinda deal meaning the individual should research the details of EVERY aspect, question and make a well informed decision based on THEIR NEEDS without influence of another because in the end~ regardless of what is or isn't they certainly will be the only ones left to live with the results. Don't trust a doctors say in it just because they have a degree & take the time to get a second opunion~ two minds are always better then one (*and check into their back rounds as well as everything else!) don't listen to your spouse's pressure for you to fix it & get on with life, friend, family, bosses suggestions about making it better for you nor for the kids sake or whatever reason other then YOUR OWN and KNOW what your getting yourself into. NOT JUST the good but find out & question the bad & ugly of it all too! Nothing is certain and just because your case seems a little "less invasive or more complex" then the next that had the "perfect turn out or a failed THR" DON'T assume you'll have the same results! Each case is it's own.

I find most disconcerting are those that post encouraging THR/resurfacing patients to do unrestricted activites; such as the ironman tri. No doubt these activites can be done but we must realize there is a price to pay! >>> AMEN! And all the hype about younger patients with less worries "THR is becoming an everyday procedure~ BLA BLA BLA" my scared ass! THINK before you do because once you've gone there's no going back~ In some cases the best doctor, greatest hospital with terrific infection ratings, nicest procedure choice, wonderfulest implant produced and the grandest of operation & recovery times don't even get you the perfect out come if your body wants it done differently~ sometimes things are just meant to be the way they are and that's that! Don't think I'm trying to discourage anyone from choosing THR or resurfacing... nor to scare... that is not my intention~ I'm saying perpare yourself and be sure of your choices at least with that you'll have no certainies of out come but left with no regrets when looking back upon your choices & why living with the out come after it's all said & done.

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Prior to having my first I too was pretty miserable, I think alot of it was caused by the stress of not knowing if the thr was the correct choice at the time. When the hip was revised, I too was much more optimistic for a number of reasons: I knew what to expect, I knew I had no choice. The hip had loosened and the pain was much worse than when I had the primary. In retospect after just having had my third in 10 yrs and realizing I'm facing possibly three more in my life: I should have waited before the first. I was 46 at the time of my first. I can't imagine what a 26 YO would face if he did it now.

Its deffinately true that we make decisions based on the circumstances we see at the moment and then have to deal with the consequences. Hopefully we make our decision based on all the facts and don't go into this believing that life will go on normally without penelty.

What I find most disconcerting are those that post encouraging THR/resurfacing patients to do unrestricted activites; such as the ironman tri. No doubt these activites can be done but we must realize there is a price to pay!

Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??> Hiya>> I feel the same about the impact these operations can have on> quality of life.>> Whilst I can understand the argument for waiting as long as possible> as revisions may be necessary when your hip is resufaced/replaced> early in life, I was miserable and totally depressed pre op.>> I was entirely bone on bone and in pain every second of every day.Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

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I would love to see if your opinion changes in say 20 yrs ater a revision or two!

Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??> > > > Hiya> >> > I feel the same about the impact these operations can have on> > quality of life.> >> > Whilst I can understand the argument for waiting as long as possible> > as revisions may be necessary when your hip is resufaced/replaced> > early in life, I was miserable and totally depressed pre op.> >> > I was entirely bone on bone and in pain every second of every day.> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger. > > >

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This has been your choice, and I also made the choice to have a hip done in

my 30's.

I think though, it is important to err on the side of caution with the

youngies.

The other point that was being made was to take care of your hip. The best

options for those who have hips put in young is to make sure you get the

longest amount of time between revisions.

With some things I was very foolish and stubborn. Shifting furniture by

yourself is foolish. Sure I could do it, just the hip didn't like it. I'm

a bit overweight, that puts extra strain on the hip.

It's always a balancing act. The last 15 years in a wheelchair wouldn't

have improved my health. I'm a nicer, happier and better person for having

the hip done. I would make the same choice and have the hip done. I would

just care for it better afterwards.

Good luck with it.

Aussie Margaret

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Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??

>. " I can't imagine what a 26 YO would face if he did it now "

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> But can you imagine what a 26 (or 23 in my case) year old faces when

> dealing with a life of constant agony?

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> Age has nothing to do with the degree of pain one has to suffer.

>

> How long are you supposed to wait? How much of your young life are

> you supposed to suffer through rather than enjoy waiting for

> the 'right' time to have the op?

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> I'm ecstatic with my choice. And if my resurf fails tomorrow it will

> have been worth it for the last painfree year and a half.

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Joe

In theory a resurfacing is a great idea over a THR,

but not everyone is suitable. I had a THR at age 28

but couldnt have a resurfacing because of the shape of

my bone etc.

I wouldnt swap my increadibly difficult decision for

anything!

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My husband had resurfacing- his scar is four inches long. I had THR mine

is twelve...- same doctor- same hospital..resurfacing is much less

invasive.

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Not necessarily is THR more invasive ... I had MIS THR and my scar is also 4 inches long.

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My husband had resurfacing- his scar is four inches long. I had THR mineis twelve...- same doctor- same hospital..resurfacing is much lessinvasive.MJ Jane Le Kanideshttp://www.my.tupperware.com/maryjanelk Visit my online Tupperware store

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I agree. Age shouldn't be a consideration if you're in enough pain to not be able to live your life. If we need a revision, then we'll deal with that when it happens. Right now it feels great to be pain-free and moving. No, I am not in my 20's, but I am still on the young side for having had two THRs. Life is too short to be in pain and disability if you don't have to be. That is my opinion from my own experience. I was an amoeba on vicadin for way too long!

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Hiya Aimay and TraceyThanks for your replies - we all seem to have vey similar opinions on our situations!!I think it is all a matter of priorities, and what we think is important at our stages of life.If I'm disabled in the future...so be it - I was disabled for so long before anyway that I know I can handle it. I know that without any shodow of a doubt having the operation when I was young will have been worth it.What's the point of waiting till your 50 until you really begin enjoying life?> >> > I agree 100% with your comments!! Even if I had to use a wheelchair > > tomorrow, I'm thankful for the time that I've had to feel "normal", > > which is something I've never really experienced before in life > > where my hip is concerned. Being 31 when I had my hip replacement, > > I had to really weigh the options and the future consequences that I > > might face down the road. I decided, for me, it was much better to > > have a few good years right now while I'm young.>

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I know in my own case if I could do it differently I would have waited! >>> Can't say that I would've waited but I do wish there had been others available with the "not so grand out comes" to speak out about their experiences so at least prior to my THR I would've had a better look at both sides of the issue. I know it wouldn't have made a difference in my out come.... but it would've at least made me aware of the real side to complications and that 1% in some cases is happening everyday for some THR & resurfacing patients and that 1% can and DOES have the potential to change the rest of your life as you once knew it. Being mentally perpared for BOTH sides is the right way to look at the issue when making the choice right for you not to assume that either options is a solution to your ever being "pain~free" as an end result because the reality is~ you don't know until you've got what you've got and then there's no going back. Although I'm very blessed even with the "failed THR" I've had.... some aren't that lucky with their choice. My advise to anyone considering the choices available is THINK HARD about just what you very well may be living with as an out come and make a well informed choice.... know too that just because you "want" is no sign you'll actually get what you or your surgeon has planned for in the end.

As I read this group I'm just amazed by the amount of optimism, even from those who have had a few revisions, but I'm also appalled by the amount of misinformation. >>> Goes to the old saying when your left with lemons in life make lemonaide. Regardless of what one actually gets in the end result.... even a "failed" doesn't mean that live is over~ you just readjust and do what you can with what you've got. Negative out looks generally produce negative out comes~ why waste the time one has left feeling sorry for yourself because the life you had is no longer ? Everything changes.... and sometimes fact is it's not in the greatest of ways~ but what is worse... a failed THR or resurfacing patient thinking positive about what might be & moving on with their life with acceptance of their limitations and still yet forfilling their dreams in a different manner OR a failed patient throwing the towel in... becoming a sore & bitter individual filling everyday with miscery & regrets about what might've been wasting everyday they have there after merely feeling sorry for themselves ? I'll take path 1

As to the misinformation.... I agree. Some take part in these boards "playing roles" as though they are a patient when their not~ have degrees & advise when they're not qualified.... it goes on & on. The important thing is... there are patients that are very real about all the issues & topics who do take part in the hopes of helping others from encouragement to support and every step in between that do know about the topic first hand. Still yet each voice brings it's own experiences & own case history and no two are alike. That's where it's left to the individual seeking assistance to KNOW for themselves.... research and question on their own behalf and don't take anything for granted just because it's been mentioned. When I speak of specifics I provide site addresses to support what's said so that the individual can read for themselves. There again... you'll still get misguided information because naturally if a company doesn't support itself or procedure then their not gonna have as many customers. So Zimmer is gonna say their the best while DePuy claims their fame in it. It's a very over whelming market which the patient & trusted/qualified physician is responsible for sifting through to make a sound decision for their case history needs.

I asked my doctor what his opinion was on resurfacing: he said it was a bad idea for three reasons: >>> And you can ask a physician that preforms more resurfacing which is the best choice and s/he'll give you reasons why THR isn't a good choice. Every doctor is different and generally one will support which ever procedure they do most often. If they have a patient in hand that they feel they can assist why would they refer you to another and loose their business ?

The other thing thats not considered is that the number of revisons a person can have in a lifetime is limited.... I don't know what happens when there isnt enough bone stock to go bigger. >>> Then they are left hip less and in a wheelchair for the majority of their time.... I know a few patients that have had that result due to failed revisions as well as some that have opted THR and ended up hip less because of infection. Life in a wheelchair is different I'm sure~ but nonetheless it's still a life and can be enjoied just the same as the walkers in the world~ they just do things a lil differently.

I for one want mine to last as long as possible and have changed my lifestyle pretty drastically.... I believe there is life after hip replacement but needs to be approached with caution and a recognition that these hips are not for ever (unless you're 70!) ... I don't hink any doctor would disagree with this. >>> We all "want" a life long if possible implant who in their right mind would want a failed one ? I've changed my life drastically because of my THR also but the majority of which has not been by choice. I think we all heed caution afterward and everyone knows when their exceeding their limits some are just going to regardless because for some in life~ life is about pushing limits. I doubt that a doctor or patient thinks their forever... but "how much of a life" the implant actually has is a case by case issue regardless of the type done at 70 or 20 for that matter.

The newer technologies just recently approved have yet to establish a track record and all the hype put out by the manufactures needs to be taken with a healthy dose of realality >>> Agreed... but then too if no one is willing to risk trying the "new or unknown" it never has a chance to become "established or proven" an advantage to those in the future of THR & resurfacing techniques. Like with my choice of having leg discrepency corrected during the operation. I could've choose to leave it as it was and just paid more for my shoes to have builds as I had for the past 5 yrs. prior to THR.... but few patients have greater then a 2" difference and are deamed "stable" in balance to permit pushing the limits & exceeding current LD corrective operations. Most doctors don't like to lengthen beyond an inch because of the problems it can create. I was advised of all the possible complications and believe me lived with several for months afterward. Yet I opted to be a documented case in the hopes that something could be improved for those that certainly will follow. Same has to be done with advancements of implants & procedure or we get no where. Life isn't always about being safe, risk is a factor of happiness just the same~ sometimes it's important to weigh the good that may become of your bad and help prevent others from knowing your pain. I'm a believer in fate and all things happen for a reason & have purpose. One should live to their fullest means and joy what they have.... but remember choices within your life do have the potential to help others if you permit it. We all have risk with any choices made but we need to remember none of us would have the option of THR or resurfacing if it hadn't once been a tried idea by someone in history.

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There was NO malice intended by the comment. Its just a statement. We all make decisions based on where we are now in our life, I just wonder if this changes for our younger patients as they age and have a few revisions or as other issues come up. I know in my own case if I could do it differently I would have waited!

As I read this group I'm just amazed by the amount of optimism, even from those who have had a few revisions, but I'm also appalled by the amount of misinformation.

I would hate to see a person find this group and see some of the postings then decide to have either a thr or a resurfacing believing these can last forever and activities are unrestricted. ie you can do the Ironman tri! This is just irresponsible!

I asked my doctor what his opinion was on resurfacing: he said it was a bad idea for three reasons: 1) the femer is reshaped then capped. The capping cuts off the oxygen to the bone which eventually dies, gets brittle and fractures. 2) Its a metel to metel bearing which contrary to one posters belief: does wear. The concern is how does the body deal with the increased concentrations of metalic ions which are known cancer producing agents? These haven't been in use long enough to know the answer, only time will tell 3) The ball size is reduced from what is considered optimal. (I didnt fully understand this but I guessing the loading will be greater than with a larger ball increasing the wear rate.)

The other thing thats not considered is that the number of revisons a person can have in a lifetime is limited. Each time the femeral component is changed the femer is bored to an larger diameter and a larger diameter stem installed. I don't know what happens when there isnt enough bone stock to go bigger.

I for one want mine to last as long as possible and have changed my lifestyle pretty drastically ( swimming mostly, no running, limited biking, no heavy lifting, cross skiing flats only at a greatly reduced mileage. ) I believe there is life after hip replacement but needs to be approached with caution and a recognition that these hips are not for ever (unless you're 70!). I don't hink any doctor would disagree with this.

It wasn't that long ago that anyone under 50 was considered too young for a hip (less than 10 years ago when I had my first) and now folks in thier 20s are having them! The newer technologies just recently approved have yet to establish a track record and all the hype put out by the manufactures needs to be taken with a healthy dose of realality.

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>> I would love to see if your opinion changes in say 20 yrs ater a revision or two!This site has always been a caring supportive site, your message I believe was out of orderWhat a mean thing to say. I am sorry but you sound incredibly bitter. The person you are questioning merely gave her own opinion.I do not believe that any of the young people on here leap into a replacement without consideration of future revisions.Myself (quite a bit older than the poster) at 37 when I had both my hips resurfaced had got to the point in my life where it was so painful, everyday life was a chore, I was constantly exausted and could barely walk or stand or sit anywhere for any time. I made the decision to have these replacements knowing that in years to come I will most likely need a regular thr revision, maybe even a few.I believe you owe the poster an apology.jane - in Wales

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Bravo SassyLou!

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Was just being informative & sharing my personal experiences.

I think it depends a lot on the dr and the type of implant you have too

and as you said, body mass is also a factor. I was not a canidate for

the resurfaceing since I am overweight.

I have a ceramic on ceramic, uncemented hip- and was told at my 14 week

check up - no restrictions at all.

can cross midline, break 90 and do the twist! Different advise for

different people- even from the same dr...and same appliance!

MJ

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we can never assume how long the "big guy" (or gal, depending on your beliefs) is going to let us hang around on this earth. That time should not be wasted. >>> AMEN 2 that being said and I second that statement

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For sure I did more physically when I was in my 20s,but if I had to choose which years to "loose" I think I would have to choose my younger yrs! >>> I'd personally choose loosing none of them~ as with each experience good, bad or ugly.... all of them have come 2 make me who I am to date. And if not for my crappie leg~ there too I'd missed many experiences which have been a blessing to me. About the only thing I can say I would've really liked to have changed.... is the amount of days experiencing pain in my time and the limitations that pain placed upon my days. Other then that.... I'm greatful for everything I've got, had or will experience~ it's all for reason & purpose and not for me to question the "why" of it. Walk well my hippy buds~

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Its interesting that you believe "the best years" of your life are when you are younger! As I look back I believe my older years are "better'! For sure I did more physically when I was in my 20s,but if I had to choose which years to "loose" I think I would have to choose my younger yrs! Definately a tough call, and I'm sure different for each of us.

How do others feel?

Re: 26 year old Hip > Replacement ??> > > > > > > Hiya> > >> > > I feel the same about the impact these operations can have on> > > quality of life.> > >> > > Whilst I can understand the argument for waiting as long as > possible> > > as revisions may be necessary when your hip is > resufaced/replaced> > > early in life, I was miserable and totally depressed pre op.> > >> > > I was entirely bone on bone and in pain every second of every > day.> > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > http://au.messenger. > > > > > >

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If you are in pain and have a poor quality of life.... then by allmeans have the hip replacemnt... I got to the point bone on bone after walking just a block I was limping so bad.. I felt the bone crunching..... I could barely ride a bike.. or do the steps in my home.. I crawled up the steps... why would anyone want to live in pain when you can have relief.. Now I am fine.. and I do everything except run... which probbaly gave me the hip arthritis in the first place... QUALITY OF LIFE IS THE ISSUE.. and yes.. one never knows.... today could be the end....Sue <tubbs8695@...> wrote:

I disagree with that statement with my whole heart and soul. Do you know what it feels like to be disabled when everyone else around you is normal? At least when you are older you have more company in the disabled area. I would much rather be confined to a wheelchair in my 60's than in my 40's. Besides you may be hit by a truck tomorrow. So live your life now.I was 40 for the first THR, 41 for the second THR (revised at 47 last year), 43 for the first total shoulder replacement and 44 for the second TSR.SuePS no offence meant to anyone by the above statements.> > >> > > Prior to having my first I too was pretty miserable, I think alot > > of it was caused by the stress of not knowing if the thr was the > > correct choice at the time. When the hip was revised, I too was much > > more optimistic for a number of reasons: I knew what to expect, I > > knew I had no choice. The hip had loosened and the pain was much > > worse than when I had the primary. In retospect after just having had > > my third in 10 yrs and realizing I'm facing possibly three more in my

> > life: I should have waited before the first. I was 46 at the time of > > my first. I can't imagine what a 26 YO would face if he did it now.> > > > > > Its deffinately true that we make decisions based on the > > circumstances we see at the moment and then have to deal with the > > consequences. Hopefully we make our decision based on all the facts > > and don't go into this believing that life will go on normally > > without penelty.> > > > > > What I find most disconcerting are those that post encouraging > > THR/resurfacing patients to do unrestricted

activites; such as the > > ironman tri. No doubt these activites can be done but we must > > realize there is a price to pay! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: 26 year old Hip > > Replacement ??> > > > > > > > > > Hiya> > > >> >

> > I feel the same about the impact these operations can have on> > > > quality of life.> > > >> > > > Whilst I can understand the argument for waiting as long as > > possible> > > > as revisions may be necessary when your hip is > > resufaced/replaced> > > > early in life, I was miserable and totally depressed pre op.> > > >> > > > I was entirely bone on bone and in pain every second of every > > day.> > > > >

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Have to agree with you .

My life - but not my joints - just gets better and better.

I've just came back from a conference Exploring the Meaning of Ageing

http://www.aag.asn.au/conf/index.html

There were many great stories and people at the conference.

Aussie Margaret

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Its interesting that you believe " the best years " of your life are when you

are younger! As I look back I believe my older years are " better'! For

sure I did more physically when I was in my 20s,but if I had to choose which

years to " loose " I think I would have to choose my younger yrs! Definately a

tough call, and I'm sure different for each of us.

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You know I have been thinking about what happens to the young ones.

There was no challenge that I had a seriously damaged hip joint, with many

spurs and very reduced range of movement and lots of pain.

At first doctors said I was too young for a hip replacement. But no one

offers any assistance or solutions as to what you do while you are getting

old enough for a hip replacement. Why don't they adequately treat our pain?

Looking back on my period before the hip replacement I believe they should

have given me some serious painkillers for a couple of days. This would

have let some of the muscles relax and perhaps even got me back to being

able to walk. I have a client who they are telling is too young at 75

years. They tell her to come back when she can't walk. In reality that is

when they did my first hip - when I couldn't walk anymore. The thing is you

are told the only thing that will fix it is an artificial hip, and no - you

can't have that- you are too young. NO ONE was interested in addressing the

pain, the lack of sleep, the stress of trying to raise my family in such

pain. No one was interested in me, I was a HIP.

I do wonder what effect this waiting for years has on our outcomes and

lifelong health and even our life expectancy.

One of the most inspiring speakers at the conference I just attended was a

gerontologist who said he wants to see the end of people attending a doctors

surgery when they are old. He says we need to get away from treating body

parts and start treating the whole person. He actually does home visits.

By visiting the home he understands more about the whole person and has

found that this means he is far better at allowing people to maintain the

things that give them quality of life. (He actually says this method is

cost effective but there were many sceptics in the audience.)

I'm not interested in life at all costs, but quality of life for myself.

Aussie Margaret

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> For sure I did more physically when I was in my 20s,but if I had to choose

> which years to " loose " I think I would have to choose my younger yrs!

> >>> I'd

> personally choose loosing none of them~ as with each experience good, bad

> or

> ugly.... all of them have come 2 make me who I am to date. And if not for

> my

> crappie leg~ there too I'd missed many experiences which have been a

> blessing

> to me. About the only thing I can say I would've really liked to have

> changed.... is the amount of days experiencing pain in my time and the

> limitations

> that pain placed upon my days. Other then that.... I'm greatful for

> everything

> I've got, had or will experience~ it's all for reason & purpose and not

> for me

> to question the " why " of it. Walk well my hippy buds~

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Hi Sue,

When you are young it is impossible to speak with the knowledge of

experience and age. I can't speak from the point of view of a person 100

years old. I have no understanding.

At each stage of life we have to do what we think is right, and accept the

concequences.

I remember when I was 30 saying to a 60 year old, " It is more important for

me to walk now than when I am 60 what do you think. " She didn't agree but

was kind enough to say that she would have thought the same at 30 and to do

what I felt was right and live with it.

I could have spent years in pain and with limited mobility to be killed in a

car accident, or hit with a bomb. I just need to accept responsibility for

my outcomes and not blame other people for them if things don't turn out as

I expected.

But don't blame the older people if they offer to share their wisdom with

you.

Aussie Margaret

Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??

>

>

> I disagree with that statement with my whole heart and soul. Do you

> know what it feels like to be disabled when everyone else around you

> is normal? At least when you are older you have more company in the

> disabled area. I would much rather be confined to a wheelchair in my

> 60's than in my 40's. Besides you may be hit by a truck tomorrow.

> So live your life now.

>

> I was 40 for the first THR, 41 for the second THR (revised at 47 last

> year), 43 for the first total shoulder replacement and 44 for the

> second TSR.

>

> Sue

>

> PS no offence meant to anyone by the above statements.

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Hi Sassy Lou,

I wastn't on line for a week almost when I move in with this strange guy and then he got the internet but it still didn't help because of the way this guy was he acted nice before I move in and said I could have the downstairs bathroom and then when I move in he was using the downstairs bathroom and when he took a shower he leave the bathroom door open .

Well my world fell apart when my daughter made me move ,I move in this strange guys house it was a nice house but the guy was strange he didn't give me that must space in his big kitchen and told me for the week I was their that if I didn't like it I could move well my Sister pick me up to go by her house for the weekend and this guy called me on my cell phone and asked me for a $100.00 for a air filter for his house he was saying my room smelled and I think what was bother him was the dog and cat hairs on my stuff well my Sister wouldn't let me go back their and ask her husband if I could stay with them untill I could get a apartment of my own he said ok so I'm staying in their basement so I can watch their tv and use the computer they have in the basement I can't beleive I move two times in two weeks I had to put some of my stuff in storage I hope you don't mind me telling you this well I'm getting use to the stairs I only try to go up and down the stairs two time a day .

I was glad to read your post again I always think you say the right thing to people and it helps a lot .Well you take one day at a time .

Susie

--Love, Susie

-------------- Original message -------------- I can't imagine what a 26 YO would face if he did it now. >>> S/he will face nothing more or less then each of us have in it. It's a personal choice in quality of life... course when considering, one has to realize that just because we "want it" that's no sign we actually "get it"... but hopefully with technology advancement, grace of God and body that wills.... they'll be 66+ before they even have to consider the options of revision and have no problems in the mean time. :)Hopefully we make our decision based on all the facts and don't go into this believing that life will go on normally without penelty >>> Agreed... it's a very my way kinda deal meaning the individual should research the details of EVERY aspect, question and make a well informed decision based on THEIR NEEDS without influence of another because in the end~ regardless of what is or isn't they certainly will be the only ones left to live with the results. Don't trust a doctors say in it just because they have a degree & take the time to get a second opunion~ two minds are always better then one (*and check into their back rounds as well as everything else!) don't listen to your spouse's pressure for you to fix it & get on with life, friend, family, bosses suggestions about making it better for you nor for the kids sake or whatever reason other then YOUR OWN and KNOW what your getting yourself into. NOT JUST the good but find out & question the bad & ugly of it all too! Nothing is certain and just because your case seems a little "less invasive or more complex" then the next that had the "perfect turn out or a failed THR" DON'T assume you'll have the same results! Each case is it's own.I find most disconcerting are those that post encouraging THR/resurfacing patients to do unrestricted activites; such as the ironman tri. No doubt these activites can be done but we must realize there is a price to pay! >>> AMEN! And all the hype about younger patients with less worries "THR is becoming an everyday procedure~ BLA BLA BLA" my scared ass! THINK before you do because once you've gone there's no going back~ In some cases the best doctor, greatest hospital with terrific infection ratings, nicest procedure choice, wonderfulest implant produced and the grandest of operation & recovery times don't even get you the perfect out come if your body wants it done differently~ sometimes things are just meant to be the way they are and that's that! Don't think I'm trying to discourage anyone from choosing THR or resurfacing... nor to scare... that is not my intention~ I'm saying perpare yourself and be sure of your choices at least with that you'll have no certainies of out come but left with no regrets when looking back upon your choices & why living with the out come after it's all said & done.

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But as you age you naturally "slow down". Your body wears normally. >>> Not all do in terms of "being feeble or living as an older non~doer".... I know some "elderly individuals" that live a WAY more active life then some young patients EVER have and in their 60's & 70's their still going stronger then ever. I think they tend to have a little more caustion in their doings because their bones are a lil more brittle, they don't want an injury because their healing time is usually a lil longer. My great-grandmother still does her own gardening, cooks & cleans for herself living independently plus volunteers part time at the hospital on top of many other actvities she has during her days.... age has given her a different look in life but other then that... she's still doing everything pretty much the same as she always has. I'm sure she has more limitations then she once did but she certainly don't let them hold her down.

By then you can better accept that the body is not as good as it once was. With a young mind and old body, you may do anything to feel your age. >>> I don't agree... if you've always been a "doer" and life brings upon you limitations which restrict what you can do and it becomes a life altering change then.... AT ANY AGE it would effect you & bring about disappointments.

Youth is wasted on the young. >>> Youth is wasted because you permit it to be not because you live with limitations. One does not have to run 10 miles a day, be able to carry heavy items, bend to touch their toes or even sit indian style while watching TV in order to enjoy their life. Youth wasted only becomes an issue to those who sit back & watch life pass them by instead of getting up with acceptance in what they're given and enjoying their days. Regardless of whether your a hip patient or not young still waste away their days generally not due to limitations though... but instead because of stupidity in the belief that every moment has to be a "big, special or grand moment" in order to enjoy it. Often it's the simplest of things that can bring about way more joy if you take the time to really look at life in a positive manner rather then wasting time "wishing" you'd been blessed with the perfect body to do the incredible experiences. When one excepts their limitations and lives to enjoy their day.... nothing is wasted.

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Dang Susie hate hearing about all the movement in two weeks. I hate moving PERIOD and the of it to be done the more it bites. LOL It's good that your sister has permitted you to stay with them~ sure does sound like your in a much safer envirnoment then with the strange guy which I would agree just doesn't sound like he's got all his marbles to play the sanity game. Hopefully you'll soon find a place of your own you can actually settle peacefully into and not have to worry about the steps or any more moving. It's nice having a place to stay should you need one but it's true that "there's no place like home". Living under anothers roof after having your own certainly does bring about hardships in adjusting to their rules & not being able to do whatever you'd like (as in painting/papering, picture hanging or home wise fixing it to your suiting) but the most important thing is your in a safe place with a roof over your head. Nice too having someone there should you need assistance. Steps do stink... but better one flight then two to climb and maybe their just difficult for you now because your not used to them. I'm sure traveling them you'll adjust and soon be climbing when you want verse when you can.

I wouldn't worry about things Susie... they'll all fall into place for you... I truly believe in my heart that a door only closes because one better is to open. So keep the faith that it'll all work itself out and things will get better~ sometimes just takes a lil more time then we'd like.... but in the end it'll come together just as it should.

I hope you don't mind me telling you this >>> Not at all sweetie. These boards are for replacement patients and topics of decussion related to the before, during & after but their also for support & encouragement. We become somewhat of "related bad body family members" giggling and it's nice to have a place to lean when you need to even though it's not a "bad body issue". It's kinda nice to actually have "something else" to talk about for a change We all have our occasional "needed vents" that's human nature... so don't feel badly that you shared it~ you needed someone to listen and that's okay.

I was glad to read your post again I always think you say the right thing to people and it helps a lot. >>> Awww thanks Susie... I'm sure all don't agree with you & some say I'm a lil "to blunt" at times but I can say I try. I've remained a voice on the boards in hopes of helping another to find hope when they've lost it. Mostly because my failed THR took me sometime to except & over come. I just want others to know that even in bad there is good if we seek it out. I know how very difficult actually FINDING IT can be on occasion but I've learned in life there are always two ways of looking at ANY issue.... negative & positively~ when I invest the time in the negative I always follow with the positive end of it... some aren't as capable in doing that which is a shame and brings about more heartache then one should experience. I only hope that my voice helps others to see that life is still very enjoyable with bad out comes.

Well you take one day at a time. >>> Will do Susie and you do the same. I'll keep you in my thoughts & prayers and you enjoy your day.

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Here, here I totally agree! I wish someone had talked me out of my first; for sure it "screwed up"my life. They're too many docs out there (including mine, who did my first) that paint way too optimistic a picture of how good these replacements are.

Had I been more willing to alter my lifestyle prior to the first surgery and more persistant about persuing activities such as pool therapy, I'm convinced that my life would have been better.

Only time will tell if I made the right decision selecting a ceramic thr for my last replacement just less than one month ago.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of Ann E. WoodsSent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 8:14 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: 26 year old Hip Replacement ??Luck is in your view of life. I didn't say that I don't need a hip replacement, but NEED is different to different people. I guess if I went back to an OS, he would definetly say I DO need a hip replacement. I just choose not to have one at this stage of my life. I have chronic ear infections. I had a total mastoidectomy in 1991 and that cleared a lot of it up, but I still am bothered with recurring infections. I am not going to take a chance of infection, having the implant removed, and ending up in a wheel chair. I can end up that way without going through the surgery.I am able to take care of my 14 room house, and I garden extensively,. I'm not saying I'm not in pain, because I am. What I AM saying is that I work through the pain, go to a therapy pool 3 times a week, and faithfully take my medications. I am lucky to still be here at 66. Many of my friends are not. That's what I mean about not screwing it up.Arianne> >> > I was thinking the same thing when I saw that post. I am having the time of my life now > at > > 66 years old. So much so, that I don't want to screw it up by having a hip replacement. If > I > > ever do decide to have one, it won't be before I am 85. lol> > Arianne> >>