Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

[Guest guest]

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Bummer. I couldn't get it when I clicked on it either. I'll have the Bee mail it to the TJR list. Hope that works.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Try this: http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/story/6745802p-7696920c.html

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

A comma is inadvertantly appended to the link:

http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html

Good reason to get replacement joints that are made of the hardest materials and/or to seek bone conserving options if you're not yet to retirement age now.

-

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:06 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Bummer. I couldn't get it when I clicked on it either. I'll have the Bee mail it to the TJR list. Hope that works.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Or even if you are.

Good reason to get replacement joints that are made of the hardest materials and/or to seek bone conserving options if you're not yet to retirement age now.

-

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:06 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Bummer. I couldn't get it when I clicked on it either. I'll have the Bee mail it to the TJR list. Hope that works.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

,

Main thrust of this entire thread has been the issue of giving all equal access to the best materials for replacements. If there is something new that has an expected longer life, should it be reserved for younger patients....interesting discussion so far.

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Brewster [mailto:kbrews@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:18 PMJoint Replacement Subject: RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

A comma is inadvertantly appended to the link:

http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html

Good reason to get replacement joints that are made of the hardest materials and/or to seek bone conserving options if you're not yet to retirement age now.

-

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:06 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Bummer. I couldn't get it when I clicked on it either. I'll have the Bee mail it to the TJR list. Hope that works.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Yes, and I opined on this a little earlier, and I should have been

more careful in my answer. To make it consistent, I'll say the

patient should decide what " retirement age " means. In any event, I

think the patient should decide how durable his/her joint needs to be

and and universal age limits shouldn't be applied by doctors,

governments or insurance companies.

-

> ,

>

> Main thrust of this entire thread has been the issue of giving all

equal

> access to the best materials for replacements. If there is

something new

> that has an expected longer life, should it be reserved for younger

> patients....interesting discussion so far.

>

> Tim T.

>

>

> Good reason to get replacement joints that are made of the hardest

> materials and/or to seek bone conserving options if you're not yet

to

> retirement age now.

>

> -

[Guest guest]

OK, I give up. Older people, who may now live to be 100, should be given inferior products.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Oh come on Ann....debate keeps the mind alert!

Overall, even with the doubling cited in the article, those over 100 are still a very small portion of the population. One might also mention the lady that had spent the last 6 months in bed

One could also use the analogy that people in Florida really don't need snow tires...

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:05 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

OK, I give up. Older people, who may now live to be 100, should be given inferior products.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

When all you do is restate your original position, that's not debate. I assume that when you're 65 and need another knee implant, you'll voluntarily choose an inferior type so that the up and coming younger generations out there abusing their knees playing soccer can have the better ones. I hope at that time you think about this "debate" and have just a slight pang of guilt.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Ann,

In another 15 years, they'll be organic. No invasive surgery, just a simple shot. It'll dissolve the existing replacement and put in new, living tissue that self regenerates.

Amazing, for years people have been using replacements, now, according to you, they are all "inferior"....how old are you and how many joint replacements have you had?

Are you speaking from experience or conjecture?

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 8:57 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

When all you do is restate your original position, that's not debate. I assume that when you're 65 and need another knee implant, you'll voluntarily choose an inferior type so that the up and coming younger generations out there abusing their knees playing soccer can have the better ones. I hope at that time you think about this "debate" and have just a slight pang of guilt.

RE: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Pretty cool....couldn't find the story....

Tim T.

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 8:03 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Please see this article, http://www.sacbee.com/content/lifestyle/seniors/story/6745838p-7696920c.html, entitled "Number of centenarians expected to double every decade".

[Guest guest]

Oh good. Then when you need your second replacement, you won't have to put up with someone younger saying that they deserve the better replacements more than you do. (I'm glad you're so prescient -- you should hire yourself out to consult for medical research.)

Ann,

In another 15 years, they'll be organic. No invasive surgery, just a simple shot. It'll dissolve the existing replacement and put in new, living tissue that self regenerates.

[Guest guest]

I have considered that....they could have a field day with me!

-----Original Message-----From: Strawman [mailto:strawman@...]Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:24 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Another reason not to deny the latest technology to older patients

Oh good. Then when you need your second replacement, you won't have to put up with someone younger saying that they deserve the better replacements more than you do. (I'm glad you're so prescient -- you should hire yourself out to consult for medical research.)

Ann,

In another 15 years, they'll be organic. No invasive surgery, just a simple shot. It'll dissolve the existing replacement and put in new, living tissue that self regenerates.