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Well Margaret, at least finally you got some answers. I pray the good Lord

guides you in

your decision of what to do.

Arianne

>

> Hi friendly Hip Family,

>

> I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.

>

> On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went

> determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second

> opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy

> first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I

> said " I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come

> today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long. "

> He was a lovely young man, and really listened.

>

> For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6

> months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.

>

> 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment

> to the bone.

>

> 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.

>

> 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.

>

> 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and

> the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.

>

> The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I

> saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my

> chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that

> the understudy had ordered on monday.

>

> He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis

> in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that

> there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there),

> the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca

> hip.

>

> The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but

> not for a new hip!

>

> The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local

> anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was

> put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip

> joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the

> hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see

> if there are any other causes of the problem.

>

> My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want

> another total hip operation. I have told my GP " never again " . But it would

> be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that.

> I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.

>

> Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.

>

> Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> RTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

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I hope that everything goes well for you.Shirleyarianne377 <arianne377@...> wrote: Well Margaret, at least finally you got some answers. I pray the good Lord guides you in your decision of what to do. Arianne > > Hi friendly Hip Family, > > I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this

week. > > On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went > determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second > opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy > first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I > said "I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come > today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long." > He was a lovely young man, and really listened. > > For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6 > months and what I was being told since I have been complaining. > > 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment > to the bone. > > 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated. > > 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the

hip. > > 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and > the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all. > > The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I > saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my > chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that > the understudy had ordered on monday. > > He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis > in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that > there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there), > the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca > hip. > > The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but > not for a new hip! >

> The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local > anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was > put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip > joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the > hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see > if there are any other causes of the problem. > > My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want > another total hip operation. I have told my GP "never again". But it would > be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that. > I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse. > > Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head. > > Thanks for reading this, and being there for me. >

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Margaret,

I can only imagine how you must be feeling right now. You must be

frightened and really, really frustrated. I am glad that you kept pushing

the point though. You did the right thing and now you will be able to find

out what is really going on. You can do this....the road may be long, but

just hang in there.

-colleen

update after 2 years

Hi friendly Hip Family,

I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.

On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went

determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second

opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy

first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I

said " I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come

today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long. "

He was a lovely young man, and really listened.

For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6

months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.

1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment

to the bone.

2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.

3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.

4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and

the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.

The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I

saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my

chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that

the understudy had ordered on monday.

He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis

in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that

there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there),

the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca

hip.

The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but

not for a new hip!

The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local

anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was

put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip

joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the

hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see

if there are any other causes of the problem.

My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want

another total hip operation. I have told my GP " never again " . But it would

be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that.

I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.

Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.

Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

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Margaret

Isn't it wonderful when someone finally listens to you! My original

RTHR never felt as good as the LTHR. After the auto accident, it

took two years for them to see the stem was loose. However, each

step the stem moved in the bone and caused pain. The stem twisted so

that my leg and foot would look like I was a duck. So just the

cemenented stem was replaced and the cup is still the original.

I hope that your stem is okay and they can fix you up without more

major surgury.

Sue

>

> Hi friendly Hip Family,

>

> I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.

>

> On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I

went

> determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a

second

> opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an

understudy

> first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me,

and I

> said " I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I

have come

> today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too

long. "

> He was a lovely young man, and really listened.

>

> For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the

last 6

> months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.

>

> 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its

attachment

> to the bone.

>

> 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.

>

> 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.

>

> 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get

any, and

> the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.

>

> The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic

surgeon who I

> saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything

on my

> chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal

xrays that

> the understudy had ordered on monday.

>

> He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted

Osteolysis

> in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication

that

> there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know

was there),

> the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an

old pca

> hip.

>

> The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I

left - but

> not for a new hip!

>

> The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration

and local

> anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't

believe it was

> put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry

hip

> joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately

from the

> hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need

to see

> if there are any other causes of the problem.

>

> My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I

don't want

> another total hip operation. I have told my GP " never again " . But

it would

> be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer

like that.

> I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.

>

> Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my

head.

>

> Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> RTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

http://au.messenger.

>

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How did they get the stem out of the set cement without removing it all by drilling? Hmm. I(

am going to get to the bottom of my pain. If

my doctor keeps pushing cortisone I go to another

OS. I don't think he is on the right track at all. I

keep wondering if I have the problem of the cement

never setting correctly.

Sherry

Re: update after 2 years

MargaretIsn't it wonderful when someone finally listens to you! My original RTHR never felt as good as the LTHR. After the auto accident, it took two years for them to see the stem was loose. However, each step the stem moved in the bone and caused pain. The stem twisted so that my leg and foot would look like I was a duck. So just the cemenented stem was replaced and the cup is still the original.I hope that your stem is okay and they can fix you up without more major surgury.Sue>> Hi friendly Hip Family,> > I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.> > On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went > determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second > opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy > first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I > said "I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come > today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long." > He was a lovely young man, and really listened.> > For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6 > months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.> > 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment > to the bone.> > 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.> > 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.> > 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and > the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.> > The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I > saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my > chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that > the understudy had ordered on monday.> > He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis > in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that > there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there), > the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca > hip.> > The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but > not for a new hip!> > The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local > anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was > put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip > joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the > hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see > if there are any other causes of the problem.> > My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want > another total hip operation. I have told my GP "never again". But it would > be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that. > I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.> > Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.> > Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.> > Aussie Margaret> RTHR 1990 revised 2004> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.>

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I agree about the cortisone. Plus it can destroy bone (not one shot, but over time).

Ann

Re: update after 2 years

MargaretIsn't it wonderful when someone finally listens to you! My original RTHR never felt as good as the LTHR. After the auto accident, it took two years for them to see the stem was loose. However, each step the stem moved in the bone and caused pain. The stem twisted so that my leg and foot would look like I was a duck. So just the cemenented stem was replaced and the cup is still the original.I hope that your stem is okay and they can fix you up without more major surgury.Sue>> Hi friendly Hip Family,> > I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.> > On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went > determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second > opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy > first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I > said "I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come > today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long." > He was a lovely young man, and really listened.> > For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6 > months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.> > 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment > to the bone.> > 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.> > 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.> > 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and > the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.> > The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I > saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my > chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that > the understudy had ordered on monday.> > He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis > in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that > there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there), > the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca > hip.> > The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but > not for a new hip!> > The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local > anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was > put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip > joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the > hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see > if there are any other causes of the problem.> > My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want > another total hip operation. I have told my GP "never again". But it would > be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that. > I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.> > Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.> > Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.> > Aussie Margaret> RTHR 1990 revised 2004> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.>

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> The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local

> anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was

> put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip

> joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the

> hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see

> if there are any other causes of the problem.

Hope you find a solution to your problem.

Phyllis

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He's got me on a dose pack now. I am going to refuse

an injection of the crap. I hardly have any bones

left in the first place and am almost neckless.

Sherry

Re: update after 2 years

MargaretIsn't it wonderful when someone finally listens to you! My original RTHR never felt as good as the LTHR. After the auto accident, it took two years for them to see the stem was loose. However, each step the stem moved in the bone and caused pain. The stem twisted so that my leg and foot would look like I was a duck. So just the cemenented stem was replaced and the cup is still the original.I hope that your stem is okay and they can fix you up without more major surgury.Sue>> Hi friendly Hip Family,> > I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.> > On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went > determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second > opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy > first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I > said "I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come > today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long." > He was a lovely young man, and really listened.> > For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6 > months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.> > 1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment > to the bone.> > 2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.> > 3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.> > 4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and > the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.> > The understudy organised for me to go to another orthopeadic surgeon who I > saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my > chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that > the understudy had ordered on monday.> > He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis > in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that > there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there), > the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca > hip.> > The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but > not for a new hip!> > The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local > anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was > put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip > joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the > hip and it will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see > if there are any other causes of the problem.> > My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want > another total hip operation. I have told my GP "never again". But it would > be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that. > I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.> > Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.> > Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.> > Aussie Margaret> RTHR 1990 revised 2004> > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.>

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Hi Margaret, I just wanted to say that at least your second dr did something and help you my second dr told me to go back to my first dr because he said its hard to tell me whats wrong because he didn't do the operation I think when you have Insurance from low income they don't want to give you the test you should have .Well I wish you the best of luck . SusieMargaret <zztinau@...> wrote: Hi friendly Hip Family,I thought I would tell you what has been happening to me this week.On Monday I went to the Orthopeadic Surgeon who did my revision. I went

determined to ask for a referal to someone that could give me a second opinion on what was happening with me. As is usual I saw an understudy first, one I hadn't seen before. He asked what he could do for me, and I said "I had a total hip put in 2 years ago and it's a lemon. I have come today determined to ask for a second opinion. This has gone on too long." He was a lovely young man, and really listened.For those interested here are the investigations I have had in the last 6 months and what I was being told since I have been complaining.1 Xrays were fine - nothing wrong with the prosthesis or its attachment to the bone.2 Bloods fine - no infection indicated.3 Bone scan doesn't show infection in the hip.4 When sent to have some hip fluid aspirated, they didn't get any, and the local anesthetic/cortisone injection didn't do any good at all.The understudy organised for me to go to another

orthopeadic surgeon who I saw today. The new surgeon was lovely, listened, read everything on my chart almost. Checked the bloods, scans, xrays and the spinal xrays that the understudy had ordered on monday.He questioned if the cup was attached to good bone. Also noted Osteolysis in the shaft area (but we knew that was there) and some indication that there was movement at the base of the shaft (which I didn't know was there), the shaft wasn't replaced when the cup was revised and was from an old pca hip.The outcome was that I signed an operation consent form before I left - but not for a new hip!The new surgeon wants to take me to theatre to redo the aspiration and local anesthetic injection under a general anesthetic. He doesn't believe it was put in the right place. He doesn't seem convinced that I had a dry hip joint. He says if the local works it will confirm it is definately from the hip and it

will need to be redone. If it doesn't work then we need to see if there are any other causes of the problem.My mind is a bit mixed up tonight. Don't know what I want. I don't want another total hip operation. I have told my GP "never again". But it would be a nice simple answer to my pain to have a cut and dried answer like that. I think sometimes not knowing what is wrong is worse.Hopefully by morning I will have sorted things a little more in my head.Thanks for reading this, and being there for me.Aussie MargaretRTHR 1990 revised 2004Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.

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