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Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise?

in NZ

Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, and now I'm saying what everyone else who's had this operation has told me before my surgery: I don't know why I waited so long! My main concern is to get back to the 5-6 days per week of brisk walking that I do for about 40-50 minutes. I'm working on that in physical therapy, plus correcting the limp I've had for about 4 years. My physical therapist said that I'd be in therapy for about 8 weeks. Only yesterday I had my first aerobic-level workout on a treadmill--only 12 minutes at about 2.5 mph, which gives me a minimal aerobic workout and minimal cardio-vascular benefit, but it's a start. I hope to be back to "normal" within about two to three months. By the way, I'm 58. I had to have a THR because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your normal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur

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In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu, and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit" after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped. My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes. What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@...> wrote: Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise? in NZ Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, and now I'm saying what everyone else who's had this operation has told me before my surgery: I don't know why I waited so long! My main concern is to get back to the 5-6 days per week of brisk walking that I do for about 40-50 minutes. I'm working on that in physical therapy, plus correcting the limp I've had for about 4 years. My physical therapist said that I'd be in therapy for about 8 weeks. Only yesterday I had my first aerobic-level workout on a treadmill--only 12 minutes at about 2.5 mph, which gives me a minimal aerobic workout and minimal cardio-vascular benefit, but it's a start. I hope to be back to "normal" within about two to three months. By the way, I'm 58. I had to have a THR

because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your normal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur

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Hi Arthur

The last year pre-op, I could only manage regular stationary cycling due to my hip pain. Before that I used a rowing machine, elliptical trainer or walked a lot. I did strength training until the last year too, but had to 'retire' due to swollen knees and elbows. (My hip damage was due to chronic inflammatory arthritis.)

I'm looking forward to going for walks as my first goal.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of art michaelsSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 3:14 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Arthur - exercise

In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu, and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit" after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped.

My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes.

What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur

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Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise?

in NZ

Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, an because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your normal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur

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: I've already started treadmill work again. It's only for about 12 minutes at 2.5 mph for a minimally beneficial cardio effect, but at least that's a start. I'm also eager to get back to my regular brisk walking routine. By the way, within five days of coming home from the hospital I began my upper body weight work (dumbbells). My physical therapist said it was OK as long I didn't violate the hip precautions. I admit it's still very new to me to be able to put one foot out in front of the other, reasonably straight, and not feel like someone's jabbing my hip with an ice pick. --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@...> wrote: Hi Arthur The last year pre-op, I could only manage regular stationary cycling due to my hip pain. Before that I used a rowing machine, elliptical trainer or walked a lot. I did strength training until the last year too, but had to 'retire' due to swollen knees and elbows. (My hip damage was due to chronic inflammatory arthritis.) I'm looking forward to going for walks as my first goal. -----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of art michaelsSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 3:14 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Arthur - exercise In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu, and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit"

after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped. My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes. What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote: Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking

around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise? in NZ Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, an because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your normal exercise and

lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Answers.

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arthur, thanks for that, the pain in the hip this morning is what's driving me to the OR on monday morning. what upper body work can you do that doesn't violate the rules of the hip - I'm very concerned that my back is really going to rear its ugly head without the exercises I do, but I won't be able to do them once I've had my THR. We have lots of snow here now so getting back to outside walking will be a while for me, its very cold here.

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: I've already started treadmill work again. It's only for about 12 minutes at 2.5 mph for a minimally beneficial cardio effect, but at least that's a start. I'm also eager to get back to my regular brisk walking routine. By the way, within five days of coming home from the hospital I began my upper body weight work (dumbbells). My physical therapist said it was OK as long I didn't violate the hip precautions.

I admit it's still very new to me to be able to put one foot out in front of the other, reasonably straight, and not feel like someone's jabbing my hip with an ice pick. --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote:

Hi Arthur

The last year pre-op, I could only manage regular stationary cycling due to my hip pain. Before that I used a rowing machine, elliptical trainer or walked a lot. I did strength training until the last year too, but had to 'retire' due to swollen knees and elbows. (My hip damage was due to chronic inflammatory arthritis.)

I'm looking forward to going for walks as my first goal.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of art michaelsSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 3:14 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Arthur - exercise

In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu, and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit" after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped.

My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes.

What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur

Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote:

Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise?

in NZ

Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, an because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your n ormal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur

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I do upper body dumbbell work--bench dips for triceps, various bicep curls, front and lateral raises for shoulders, wrist curls for forearms, bent-over raises for back, and bench presses and flies for chest. I'm careful not to violate the hip precautions. So far, so good. The only exercise I don't do right now that I did before is leg raises for the abs (which I'm taking care of in PT), and side bridges (for deep abdominal muscles). One thing is new--I've never been so fearful of ice and snow. Here in Pennsylvania it's not all that bad, but I thought about getting ice creepers to wear, if necessary. I have a treadmill, so I'm not at all worried about walking outside. I will be doing that again, though, in a few weeks, at least during the daylight on the weekends. Before my THR, I used to walk at night, but now I have reservations about it more so than ever: All I need now is to trip on the blasted sidewalk in the dark and land on my

hip! So I'm sticking to indoor treadmill work and daylight walking outside. I don't mind a little bit of cold, but temperatures in the 20s and 30s with wind send me back indoors. I sympathize with your back troubles. All the sleeping on my back makes my lower back ache by morning. Propping up my knees with a bolster helps a little. Your surgery is on Monday? Good luck. Best advice I got before my surgery: Do as your told by the doctors, nurses, and therapists. Don't cut corner. Don't arbitrarily decide not to do certain things. Do everything you're told to do. --ArtAnn <katlady@...> wrote: arthur, thanks for that, the pain in the hip this morning is what's driving me to the OR on monday morning. what upper body work can you do that doesn't violate the rules of the hip - I'm very concerned that my back is really going to rear its ugly head without the exercises I do, but I won't be able to do them once I've had my THR. We have lots of snow here now so getting back to outside walking will be a while for me, its very cold here. ann RE: Re: Arthur - exercise : I've already started treadmill work again. It's only for about 12 minutes at 2.5 mph for a minimally beneficial cardio effect, but at least that's a start. I'm also eager to get back to my regular brisk walking routine. By the way, within five days of coming home from the hospital I began my upper body weight work (dumbbells). My physical therapist said it was OK as long I didn't violate the hip precautions. I admit it's still very new to me to be able to put one foot out in front of the other, reasonably

straight, and not feel like someone's jabbing my hip with an ice pick. --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote: Hi Arthur The last year pre-op, I could only manage regular stationary cycling due to my hip pain. Before that I used a rowing machine, elliptical trainer or walked a lot. I did strength training until the last year too, but had to 'retire' due to swollen knees and elbows. (My hip damage was due to chronic inflammatory arthritis.) I'm looking forward to going for walks as my first goal. -----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of art michaelsSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 3:14 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Arthur - exercise In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu,

and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit" after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped. My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes. What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote: Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was very

fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise? in NZ Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, an because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recovery and being

physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your n ormal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on Answers. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Answers. Try it now.

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oh boy, me following instructions is going to be good for a laugh LOL, The op doesn't bother me its the after stuff - hell I'm a very active 60 year old and don't like the idea of being so sedentary, but being that its dec, jan and feb, its the best part of the year to be indoors and I'll happily stick with it.

thanks for the information

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: I've already started treadmill work again. It's only for about 12 minutes at 2.5 mph for a minimally beneficial cardio effect, but at least that's a start. I'm also eager to get back to my regular brisk walking routine. By the way, within five days of coming home from the hospital I began my upper body weight work (dumbbells). My physical therapist said it was OK as long I didn't violate the hip precautions.

I admit it's still very new to me to be able to put one foot out in front of the other, reasonably straight, and not feel like someone's jabbing my hip with an ice pick. --Arthur Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote:

Hi Arthur

The last year pre-op, I could only manage regular stationary cycling due to my hip pain. Before that I used a rowing machine, elliptical trainer or walked a lot. I did strength training until the last year too, but had to 'retire' due to swollen knees and elbows. (My hip damage was due to chronic inflammatory arthritis.)

I'm looking forward to going for walks as my first goal.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of art michaelsSent: Friday, 8 December 2006 3:14 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Arthur - exercise

In my experience, when you exercise regularly, gains in conditioning are the toughest to measure--until you stop exercising. I've had times when colds, the flu, and muscle pulls have caused my stopping exercising, and even though I was still relatively "fit" after 2 or 3 weeks of not exercising, I was no where near the level of conditioning I was at when I had stopped.

My THR was one month ago tomorrow, and only this week did I start treadmill work at a minimum level at which I gain some cardio-vascular benefit. Sure, it's only about 12 minutes to start, but it's a start. I will work my way back to 5 or 6 days a week of brisk walking for 40-50 minutes.

What did (do) you do to attain your level of fitness? --Arthur

Harnett <wjkh@....nz> wrote:

Thanks for posting Arthur. Experiences such as yours are so encouraging! I was ve ry fit pre-op and am only Day 10 post-op but can't wait until I can exercise again :) I'm walking around on my crutches and resting a lot of the time (listening to my body). Does a fit person lose all their fitness in a month or so off exercise?

in NZ

Hello, . I just joined this group and saw your message. I had a THR on November 10, an because my left hip was severely arthritic.In my case, I have lost about 60 pounds since December 2005. My surgeon has told me many benefits of having lost weight for my surgery and recov ery and being physically fit going in to it. So how long it takes you to get back to your n ormal exercise and lifestyle depends on your pre-surgery level of fitness.My advice: Make sure you go in to the surgery at a normal weight, and exercise before your surgery so that you're fit going in to it.Hope this helps. --Arthur

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ann where do you live. it's very cold here as well, a little warmer today and warmer this coming week, but night before last it got down to 20 below and we had a scare with our pump freezing, but it didn't, whew! thank God. i'm in NW Wisconsin.

huggles,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

We have lots of snow here now so getting back to outside walking will be a while for me, its very cold here.

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i didn't realize rich people lived in that area -- maybe the area has changed, because the hotel we stayed in was quite old and could have been a lot nicer.

double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

yes canada ain't bad if you can put up with the cold and snow in certain parts - and you were in Muskoka, where all the rich and famous now live - actresses, etc., Toronto now is a huge city by our standards

I live north on a farm, its white and very beautiful today, but very, very cold

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well now its the home of goldie hawn for one, and her beau, and other rich people - how things change

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i didn't realize rich people lived in that area -- maybe the area has changed, because the hotel we stayed in was quite old and could have been a lot nicer.

double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

yes canada ain't bad if you can put up with the cold and snow in certain parts - and you were in Muskoka, where all the rich and famous now live - actresses, etc., Toronto now is a huge city by our standards

I live north on a farm, its white and very beautiful today, but very, very cold

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that's easy to understand -- it's such a BEAUTIFUL area, perfect -- i have some magnificent photos taken from my plane ride.

double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

well now its the home of goldie hawn for one, and her beau, and other rich people - how things change

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It's never too late Lindy - I was a couch potato until my mid 30's, when the onset of arthritis gave me a wake-up call :)

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of lindySent: Saturday, 9 December 2006 12:25 p.m.Joint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Arthur - exercise

you folks who have exercised all along are sure lucky because i have not and i could kick myself in the big ol butt for not doing so, for letting my body go like i did.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

: I just returned from PT. Besides the exercises and stretches, they had me on a recumbent bike for 12 minutes and a treadmill for 8 minutes today. So I'm slowly working back to normal. Slowly is the key. My PTs are very careful to warn people about not overdoing it, which is good advice. Especially for me because when I don't exercise even one day, I feel like I haven't worked out for a month. I'm heeding the advice not to overdo it. I encourage you to remember that, too. --Arthur

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i have forgotten, how old are you now wendy? i do intend on getting fit; absolutely! i haven't always been overweight and out of shape. there was a day . . .

double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

It's never too late Lindy - I was a couch potato until my mid 30's, when the onset of arthritis gave me a wake-up call :)

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And there will be again, Lindy. It's tough to stay in shape when you're in constant pain. Just wait until spring. And summer will be even better. Today's my three-month anniversary for my BTKRs, and it's been a good week. I've turned the corner! I carried Christmas decorations up the steps last night. Of course, I'm feeling it now. Do too much and take one step back. But after all my pain, impatience, pushing myself, doubts and worries, I think these knees are actually going to work! :-)lindy <everyothername.istaken@...> wrote: i have forgotten, how old are you now wendy? i do intend on getting fit; absolutely! i haven't always been overweight and out of shape. there was a day . . . double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007 It's never too late Lindy - I was a couch potato until my mid 30's, when the onset of arthritis gave me a wake-up call :)

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You can do a lot in 44 days to strengthen and increase flexibility, Lindy. The pool is the easiest place to do it. Your weather is not going to allow you to exercise in the great outdoors. But sounds like you have the equipment right there at home. 30 minutes twice a day fpr 44 days -- not at all shabby! That's a lot of work. You don't have to look like a supermodel -- save that for one year after surgery. :-) But you sure could build some strength and flexibility in 44 hours! I swam and did water aerobics. I'm no olympic champion, bit it greatly eased my pain and helped me to start getting out of bed immediately. I saw picture, and you are an attractive woman. So don't go beating yourself up here. I'll tell everyone I know better. :-) Warm regards, Donnalindy <everyothername.istaken@...> wrote: you folks who have exercised all along are sure lucky because i have not and i could kick myself in the big ol butt for not doing so, for letting my body go like i did. hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007 : I just returned from PT. Besides the exercises and stretches, they had me on a recumbent bike

for 12 minutes and a treadmill for 8 minutes today. So I'm slowly working back to normal. Slowly is the key. My PTs are very careful to warn people about not overdoing it, which is good advice. Especially for me because when I don't exercise even one day, I feel like I haven't worked out for a month. I'm heeding the advice not to overdo it. I encourage you to remember that, too. --Arthur

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For about 8 years I ran an exercise group for people over 85 years. A

lot of my 50 year old clients don't do as much exercise as this group

did. They all had some form of disability, and no one made them come

to the exercise class.

But boy we had so much fun.

I had reports that they needed less pain killers on exercise night,

and slept much better.

I now run 3 exercise groups a week. Anyone can come and they are

free. I'm the only one that does all 3 sessions. When people ring

and ask me about the groups I tell them " I do it, and I am the most

disabled in the groups. I'm the one with the walking stick and the

duck waddle. "

Everyone can find something to do to keep their body moving.

If it is truely too painful all is not lost. --- READ ON!!

I have seen research that suggests even visualising yourself going

through the exercises can have a physical benefit. I bet all on this

email list could do that.

Yes, I know, I'm as cracked as Lord Florey with his rotting fruit

(1945 Nobel Laureate in Medicine for the discovery of penicillin and

its curative effect in various infectious diseases.)

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

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> i have forgotten, how old are you now wendy? i do intend on getting

fit; absolutely! i haven't always been overweight and out of shape.

there was a day . . .

>

> double jointed hugs,

> ~ linDUHlou ~

> RTHR/1/22/2007

>

>

> It's never too late Lindy - I was a couch potato until my mid

30's, when the onset of arthritis gave me a wake-up call :)

>

>

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Welcome back from your holiday, Aussie Margaret. Missed your wise advice. Your medical background is so helpful as is your wise and common-sense perspective -- not at all cracked! :-) Warm regards, DonnaMargaret <zztinau@...> wrote: For about 8 years I ran an exercise group for people over 85 years. Alot of my 50 year old clients don't do as much exercise as this groupdid. They all had some form of disability, and no one

made them cometo the exercise class.But boy we had so much fun.I had reports that they needed less pain killers on exercise night,and slept much better.I now run 3 exercise groups a week. Anyone can come and they arefree. I'm the only one that does all 3 sessions. When people ringand ask me about the groups I tell them "I do it, and I am the mostdisabled in the groups. I'm the one with the walking stick and theduck waddle."Everyone can find something to do to keep their body moving.If it is truely too painful all is not lost. --- READ ON!! I have seen research that suggests even visualising yourself goingthrough the exercises can have a physical benefit. I bet all on thisemail list could do that.Yes, I know, I'm as cracked as Lord Florey with his rotting fruit(1945 Nobel Laureate in Medicine for the discovery of penicillin andits curative effect in various infectious diseases.)

Aussie MargaretRTHR 1990 revised 2004>> i have forgotten, how old are you now wendy? i do intend on gettingfit; absolutely! i haven't always been overweight and out of shape. there was a day . . .> > double jointed hugs,> ~ linDUHlou ~> RTHR/1/22/2007> > > It's never too late Lindy - I was a couch potato until my mid30's, when the onset of arthritis gave me a wake-up call :)> >

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