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My “bad” leg is also my right

leg and I have always used the rt. doors to get in. If you put a garbage bag on

the seat

It makes it just slippery

enough to help you move around. Use your left leg and

arms to get in. if your in the rear just

slide backwards and leave your leg on the seat. If you are in

the front slide far enough to the left to let you grab your

right leg and swing it in. Without using the plastic bags you

have to kind of hop backwards and that just about killed me.

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i wish you all the best sharon and for a speedy recovery! i have no clue about getting in and out of a car, i am wondering the same thing re: my thr, so i'm interested in replies to your question.

huggles,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

Thank you all so much for your help!My surgery is Monday, and I am slowly learning to adapt.One more question, if I may...What is the best way to get into/out of a car with your (right) leg totally straight and in a brace (unable to bend knee at all).I am having a really hard time now, and after surgery I'm sure it will be harder. Front seat with seat back all the way? Bad leg in first or second (there isn't enough room and I wind up smushing it and it hurts like heck) Back seat from left side? Right side? Bad leg in first? Drag bad leg in after sit down and scootch in?Right now it all hurts, so any help would be wonderful!

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good advice -- the trash bag, i will have to write this down so i don't forget. i understand when a right leg (knee or hip) is operated on, the person cannot drive as soon as if it were the left leg operated on, because we use our right leg to drive. has anyone found this to be true -- that you had to wait longer to be able to drive again?

huggles,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

My “bad” leg is also my right leg and I have always used the rt. doors to get in. If you put a garbage bag on the seat

It makes it just slippery enough to help you move around. Use your left leg and arms to get in. if your in the rear just

slide backwards and leave your leg on the seat. If you are in the front slide far enough to the left to let you grab your

right leg and swing it in. Without using the plastic bags you have to kind of hop backwards and that just about killed me.

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according to my surgeon, driving is up to your insurance company - mine doesn't care, I'm covered, but I can't imagine slamming the brakes on until about 6 weeks after the op and that's my plan - if I was my husband, he drives an automatic with 2 feet, one for the accelerator and one for the brake, then I'd be okay, and I know many people who do drive in this fashion so the braking is done by the left foot.

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good advice -- the trash bag, i will have to write this down so i don't forget. i understand when a right leg (knee or hip) is operated on, the person cannot drive as soon as if it were the left leg operated on, because we use our right leg to drive. has anyone found this to be true -- that you had to wait longer to be able to drive again?

huggles,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

My “bad” leg is also my right leg and I have always used the rt. doors to get in. If you put a garbage bag on the seat

It makes it just slippery enough to help you move around. Use your left leg and arms to get in. if your in the rear just

slide backwards and leave your leg on the seat. If you are in the front slide far enough to the left to let you grab your

right leg and swing it in. Without using the plastic bags you have to kind of hop backwards and that just about killed me.

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In a message dated 12/8/2006 11:31:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, sharoncaley@... writes:

a car with your (right) leg totally straight and in a brace (unable to bend knee at all).I am having a really hard time now, and after surgery I'm sure it will be harder. Front seat with seat back all the way? Bad leg in first or

It should be better after the surgery....but I know what you mean about getting in the car....I had my Right knee replaced and it was difficult getting in.....I found what worked best was to get up close to the seat.....put the right leg in first (or get someone to help you lift it into the car)....while hopping on the other leg closer to the seat....then slide your butt on the seat and get your left leg in....make sure the seat is all the way back so the right leg will be straight.....although after the surgery, it's good to bend it as much as you can (which won't be much at first!)

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I just realized, I told youhow to get into the car with a LEFT knee replacement, not the right....mine was th eleft knee and that's how I did it....I guess if it's your Right knee. you would have to sit down first and then use something (a dog leash?) to hook your right foot and swing it into the car....

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Yes the right leg does slow down your getting

back to driving. They are worried about you having to hit the brakes

quickly and hard. I had a panic attack the day after I got home

from the hospital and I drove to where I was working

at the time. Shoot it may have been the afternoon on the

same day I got home. I was still quite heavily medicated at

the time but it seemed like the right thing to do. My wife

took my keys away after that, man was she ever mad at me

for that stunt. At least I found out about panic attacks and

how long I had been having them.

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I was able to purchase a slippery seat device that is 2 pieces of padded fabric, connected by a cord. Sort of a 'lazy susan' for seats. It works well.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of CoffeySent: Saturday, 9 December 2006 7:14 a.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

My “bad” leg is also my right leg and I have always used the rt. doors to get in. If you put a garbage bag on the seat

It makes it just slippery enough to help you move around. Use your left leg and arms to get in. if your in the rear just

slide backwards and leave your leg on the seat. If you are in the front slide far enough to the left to let you grab your

right leg and swing it in. Without using the plastic bags you have to kind of hop backwards and that just about killed me.

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that's so funny because when i first began driving, years and years and years and years (okay you get the point -- i'm old, ha ha) i drove with both feet. i had to break the habit to stop and i did. i could start the habit again though, for a while. might just do that, my left leg is pretty darned healthy. ;-)

double jointed hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

That's what I did when I broke my right foot. I drove with my cast on and my right foot (mostly toes) on the gas pedal, and used my left to brake. Took me forever to learn to do it the 'real' way when I was okay again..I'm trying to figure out if I could stretch my right leg across the front seat and then drive with my left.People with only one leg can learn it...why couldn't I??????????Sharon, getting more and more creative....=0)

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That's where the leg lifter comes in so handy. It's about $10. Unlike a dog leash, it's stiff. You reach right down, hook your foot and swing it over. Yes, knee replacement people, we need to bend. But there are times you just need to get moving, especially in the first week and if you have no "good" side because you had both knees done at once. A friend brought me hers to use. My brother goes in Jan. for knee surgery, and I'm getting him one for Christmas. Pets007@... wrote: I just realized, I told youhow to get into the car with a LEFT knee replacement, not the right....mine was th eleft knee and that's how I did it....I guess if it's your Right knee. you would have to sit down first and then use something (a dog leash?) to hook your right foot and swing it into the car....

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Plastic was used in the hospital and in the physical theapy room to allow us to slide when we couldn't move well. It really works. I had forgotten that part. Harnett <wjkh@...> wrote: I was able to purchase a slippery seat device that is 2 pieces of padded fabric, connected by a cord. Sort of a 'lazy susan' for seats. It works well. -----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of CoffeySent: Saturday, 9 December 2006 7:14 a.m.Joint Replacement Subject: RE: Re: Broke my patella...help!!! My “bad” leg is also my right leg and I have always used the rt. doors to get in. If you put a garbage bag on the seat It makes it just slippery enough to help you move around. Use your left leg and arms to get in. if your in the rear just slide backwards and leave your leg on the seat. If you are in the front slide far enough to the left to let you grab your right leg and swing it in. Without using the plastic bags you have to kind of hop backwards and that just about killed me.

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so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

I have been using a crutch for a leg lifter.I just turn the crutch upside down, stick my foot firmly over the armrest, hold onto the other end and lift. Supports my leg and keeps it straight.When I'm sitting in the doctor's office I rest my foot on the crutch armrest and prop my leg up on the other crutch.Works for me!

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of lindySent: 09 December, 2006 7:24 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

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thanks for making me laugh at what I think - it is undoable, but the future is rosie for sure - a friend who just had it done is thrilled, I'm bound and determine that I will be too.

keep your humour, its all we'll have for the next 12 weeks LOL

a

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so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

I have been using a crutch for a leg lifter.I just turn the crutch upside down, stick my foot firmly over the armrest, hold onto the other end and lift. Supports my leg and keeps it straight.When I'm sitting in the doctor's office I rest my foot on the crutch armrest and prop my leg up on the other crutch.Works for me!

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i thought you had to sleep on your back for minimum 8 weeks? I sure hope I'm wrong, please advise

a

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of lindySent: 09 December, 2006 7:24 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

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Nobody told me I had to sleep on my back for 8 weeks. When I asked, I was told to pick any position I wished, as long as I kept my knees apart-- and that if I must sleep on my side, to keep the operated leg on top. The pillow between my legs took care of that.

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of Ann Sent: 09 December, 2006 10:04 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

i thought you had to sleep on your back for minimum 8 weeks? I sure hope I'm wrong, please advise

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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then you are lucky, I'm not looking forward to being on my back but I'll suffer it through

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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No you really don't, Ann, but ask your dr re your individual circumstances.

-----Original Message-----From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ]On Behalf Of Ann Sent: Sunday, 10 December 2006 9:04 a.m.Joint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

i thought you had to sleep on your back for minimum 8 weeks? I sure hope I'm wrong, please advise

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of lindySent: 09 December, 2006 7:24 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

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Sharon, I'm a "knee person," so can't answer your question. I just wanted to wish you the very best experience and a quick recovery. We'll be waiting to hear how you are doing. Warm regards, DonnaSharon Caley <sharoncaley@...> wrote: Thank you all so much for your help!My surgery is Monday, and I am slowly learning to adapt.One more question, if I may...What is the best way to get into/out of a car with

your (right) leg totally straight and in a brace (unable to bend knee at all).I am having a really hard time now, and after surgery I'm sure it will be harder. Front seat with seat back all the way? Bad leg in first or second (there isn't enough room and I wind up smushing it and it hurts like heck) Back seat from left side? Right side? Bad leg in first? Drag bad leg in after sit down and scootch in?Right now it all hurts, so any help would be wonderful!Sharon, Mighty thankful for one good leg and two good arms and hands!=0)

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well that will please me no end, but prepared for the worst. Thank you all for all your support. Tomorrow is our annual xmas tree cutting party and then its time for me for a change.

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Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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From: Joint Replacement [mailto:Joint Replacement ] On Behalf Of lindySent: 09 December, 2006 7:24 PMJoint Replacement Subject: Re: Re: Broke my patella...help!!!

so i've been reading these books about hip replacement and last night again read about the precautions afterwards. so if i'm to understand it correctly, i have to sleep with my legs apart, i can't ever let my knees touch, i dare not cross my operated leg past the midline of my body, etc., etc. this all sounds so undoable. and it says not to bend the body more than a 90 degree angle (i don't even know what this looks like; 90 degrees) when sitting -- can i put my operated leg up on a footstool? it sounds very frightening -- like if i do something wrong, i'll end up with a popped joint and i've also read how terribly painful that is. i really should stop reading already.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

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i sure am getting me one of these, thanks for telling me about them, donna.

hugs,~ linDUHlou ~RTHR/1/22/2007

That's where the leg lifter comes in so handy. It's about $10. Unlike a dog leash, it's stiff. You reach right down, hook your foot and swing it over. Yes, knee replacement people, we need to bend. But there are times you just need to get moving, especially in the first week and if you have no "good" side because you had both knees done at once. A friend brought me hers to use. My brother goes in Jan. for knee surgery, and I'm getting him one for Christmas.

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thanks a lot greywolf for this great info, sorry it took so long to reply. ;-)

lindy lou

Lindy:

The business of sleeping with your legs apart is easily solved by putting a pillow between your legs. That's what I did after both surgeries, since I have trouble sleeping on my back. Two weeks after surgery, I was back on my side/tummy, which was my normal position, and have been ever since.

Crossing legs and not moving the operates leg past your body's midline is only for the first 6-8 weeks, but get resigned to the fact that you won't be able to sit with your legs crossed for any length of time... it gets very uncomfortable.

A 90-degree angle is like the corner of a newspaper when it's spread out, something like this: |_ ... any angle less (smaller) thasn that is a no-no. You can sit like this: \_; but never like this: /_ . Is that clear enough? Again, this is a temporary restriction, lasting 6-8 weeks. Both restrictions, midline and 90 degrees are there to keep you from dislocating the new joint or loosening the stem of the femur implant before the bone heals around it and locks it in place. If you can't lean back (maintaining the 90-degree angle) then don't use a footstoll till the surgeon okays it in a followup visit.

The limitations and restrictions aren't so bad, and they go away after a couple of months... the payoff is being able to walk without pain and do so many things you couldn't do before.

Greywolf - RTHR-2003; LTHR-2004

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thanks maxine. i should have known what a 90 degree angle looks like. DUH DUH DUH! now i feel stupid.

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

---Lindy, the letter L is a 90 degree bend. Consider the long vertical line your torso and the shorter horizontal line your upper legs.I have a resurfacing and I can bend any way I want to. I do exercises and bend over and touch my toes, sit Indian style, sleep any way I want to. I'm so glad I didn't have to have a THR. Best of luck to you. ..... Maxine

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