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Hi All,

Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full

knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am

still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a

day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around the

knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!

Shirl

p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc &

you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

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Thanks for the tip on the iron, Shirley. I am so very sorry to hear your recovery is slow. What does your surgeon say? Vice-like feeling? Do you think it could be scar tissue? Donnalos_shirl <essexshirl@...> wrote: Hi All,Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around the knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!Shirlp.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc & you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

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Hi Shirl,

I always tell my clients that you need vit c to help absorb the iron. Fresh

parsley in the meals and fresh green leafy vegies are both excellent sources

of iron and vit c at the same time.

Seems nature does know best.

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

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| Hi All,

| Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full

| knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am

| still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a

| day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around the

| knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!

| Shirl

| p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc &

| you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

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Hi there Shirl,

What has your dr. said? Have you been having ongoing physical therapy? I had complications with my TKR but the symptoms you have I had much earlier on. As for the vice like feeling, some days I still feel that and that's exactly how I describe it. I am 2 years post op.

Welcome and best regards, Joy

-- Hallo from new member

Hi All,Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around the knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!Shirlp.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc & you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

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You have to watch the green leafy vegetables if you're

taking Coumadin. My understanding is that Coumadin

interferes with the vitamin k clotting agents and thus

" thins " the blood. Green leafy vegetables are one of

the best sources of vitakim k, so loading up on them

could defeat the Coumadin. --Arthur

--- Margaret <zztinau@...> wrote:

> Hi Shirl,

>

> I always tell my clients that you need vit c to help

> absorb the iron. Fresh

> parsley in the meals and fresh green leafy vegies

> are both excellent sources

> of iron and vit c at the same time.

>

> Seems nature does know best.

>

> Aussie Margaret

> RTHR 1990 revised 2004

>

> Hallo from new

> member

>

>

> | Hi All,

> | Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex

> (england). I had a full

> | knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a

> failure as yet - I am

> | still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives

> way several times a

> | day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like'

> feeling around the

> | knee! Its been good to read some of your

> messages!!

> | Shirl

> | p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C,

> orange juice etc &

> | you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

>

> Send instant messages to your online friends

> http://au.messenger.

>

>

>

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Yes Arthur, Some of my clients have to restrict their green leafy vegetables

because of that. I wonder if they eat more of the green leafy vegies if

they would need to take " coumadin " - I presume a blood thinner?

I remember a doctor talking on the TV one day complaining how some of our

Vietnamese migrants, once they find out they have diabeties start using

" alternative " medicine - usually eating the vegetable bitter melon.

I know the argument about standardised doses etc, but I often think that in

the future doctors will try special foods before reaching for their script

pads. I hope so anyway.

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

Hallo from new

| > member

| >

| >

| > | Hi All,

| > | Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex

| > (england). I had a full

| > | knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a

| > failure as yet - I am

| > | still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives

| > way several times a

| > | day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like'

| > feeling around the

| > | knee! Its been good to read some of your

| > messages!!

| > | Shirl

| > | p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C,

| > orange juice etc &

| > | you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

| >

| > Send instant messages to your online friends

| > http://au.messenger.

| >

| >

| >

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Hallo Joyce & Donna,

My surgeon keeps banging on about it being a 'technically perfect

FKR'. I managed to get a copy of the letter sent to my GP which says

I had 'complex regional pain syndrome' & soft tissue damage. I got

told I have their sympathy, but theres nothing they can do - they

just hope things will get better in time.

Had some physio (2 sessions - just walking back & forth in the

parallel bars), do 6 lots of exercises 4 times a day thats it, oh a 6

lots of hydrotherapy.

They have been mentioning a re-do, taking the joint out & having

another try - I said you're not touching me again!

Am feeling somewhat touchy about the whole thing, am seeing surgoen

again tomorrow!! Shirl

p.s. 2 years on for the vice like??? blimey - thats really chuffed me

off!!

> Hi there Shirl,

>

> What has your dr. said? Have you been having ongoing physical

therapy? I

> had complications with my TKR but the symptoms you have I had much

earlier

> on. As for the vice like feeling, some days I still feel that and

that's

> exactly how I describe it. I am 2 years post op.

>

> Welcome and best regards, Joy

>

> -- Hallo from new member

>

> Hi All,

> Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full

> knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I

am

> still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a

> day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around

the

> knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!

> Shirl

> p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc

&

> you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!

>

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Hey Shirl,

It might be technically perfect but it is not humanly perfect. You have to live with this on a day-to-day basis and can't possibly do that the way you are right now.

I, for one, feel that physical therapy is a necessity. You probably would be doing better now if you had regular ongoing therapy. You can exercise a lot like you do but in therapy they will do things for you that stretch, loosen, etc. All those things will prevent excessive scar tissue. I had PT for 6 months, 3 times a week. Of course, my situation was a little unusual in that 3 days after surgery I developed a blood clot. I could not even get out of bed for 1 week and I was in the hospital for a week and then transported to rehab facility where I stayed another 10 days. End result is I have scar tissue which prevents me from having a range of motion any greater than 95. But it honestly took me 6 months of pt to even get there. You see, we are not all textbook cases. I have no pain anymore but getting in and out of the car is difficult at 5'11"!! I walk perfectly. I just don't have that ROM that is comfortable.

I don't know if I would want a re-do. In my opinion I would get a second opinion on that one.

I hope your dr. appt. goes well and you get some much needed answers.

Good luck and regards, Joy

-- Hallo from new member> > Hi All,> Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full > knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am > still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a > day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling around the > knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!> Shirl> p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc & > you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!>

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Hi Joyce,

thanks for the reply!! Id love more PT but my physio doesnt seem to

be interested! The apt with the surgeon went okay - 'just carry on

exercising & see pain clinic consultant'.

Im only 5'62, but I have terrible trouble getting in & out of the

car - most of southend have seen my underwear (eat yr heart out

bridget jones!), so I can only guess the probs you have (my advice -

try not to wear a skirt!)

Shirl

>

> Hey Shirl,

>

> It might be technically perfect but it is not humanly perfect. You

have to

> live with this on a day-to-day basis and can't possibly do that the

way you

> are right now.

>

> I, for one, feel that physical therapy is a necessity. You

probably would

> be doing better now if you had regular ongoing therapy. You can

exercise a

> lot like you do but in therapy they will do things for you that

stretch,

> loosen, etc. All those things will prevent excessive scar tissue.

I had PT

> for 6 months, 3 times a week. Of course, my situation was a little

unusual

> in that 3 days after surgery I developed a blood clot. I could not

even get

> out of bed for 1 week and I was in the hospital for a week and then

> transported to rehab facility where I stayed another 10 days. End

result is

> I have scar tissue which prevents me from having a range of motion

any

> greater than 95. But it honestly took me 6 months of pt to even

get there.

> You see, we are not all textbook cases. I have no pain anymore but

getting

> in and out of the car is difficult at 5'11 " !! I walk perfectly. I

just don

> t have that ROM that is comfortable.

>

> I don't know if I would want a re-do. In my opinion I would get a

second

> opinion on that one.

>

> I hope your dr. appt. goes well and you get some much needed

answers.

>

> Good luck and regards, Joy

>

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Shirl, I read a bit about complex regional pain syndrome. It was very technical, but reminds me of the way Alan described his condition of 40 years -- the nuerons, nerve endings, etc. Alan was going back in for manipulation for scar tissue. But hopefully he will be back to the site and we'll be a getting a good report soon. How did things go witht the surgeon? Warm regards, Donnalos_shirl <essexshirl@...> wrote: Hallo Joyce & Donna,My surgeon keeps banging on about it being a 'technically perfect FKR'. I managed to get a copy of the letter sent to my GP which says I had 'complex regional pain syndrome' & soft tissue damage. I got told I have their sympathy, but theres nothing they can do - they just hope things will get better in time.Had some physio (2 sessions - just walking back & forth in the parallel bars), do 6 lots of exercises 4 times a day thats it, oh a 6 lots of hydrotherapy.They have been mentioning a re-do, taking the joint out & having another try - I said you're not touching me again!Am feeling somewhat touchy about the whole thing, am seeing surgoen again tomorrow!! Shirlp.s. 2 years on for the vice like??? blimey - thats really chuffed me off!!> Hi there Shirl,> > What has your dr. said?

Have you been having ongoing physical therapy? I> had complications with my TKR but the symptoms you have I had much earlier> on. As for the vice like feeling, some days I still feel that and that's> exactly how I describe it. I am 2 years post op.> > Welcome and best regards, Joy > > -- Hallo from new member> > Hi All,> Shirley here from Southend-On-sea in essex (england). I had a full > knee replacement in July. Im afraid its been a failure as yet - I am > still on crutches & housebound. The knee gives way several times a > day, and is still very painful, with a 'vice like' feeling

around the > knee! Its been good to read some of your messages!!> Shirl> p.s. iron tablets? - always take them with Vit C, orange juice etc & > you'll have no tummy troubles at all!!> __________________________________________________

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Hi Donna,

Ive started the think they say CRPS when they really dont have a clue

whats happening!! Surgeon says carry on wioth exercise & do whatever

pain clinic consult says! see him again in 3 mnths!! However my knee

is getting easier, apart from the vice like feeling!! so Im feeling

more positive!

Shirl

> Shirl,

>

> I read a bit about complex regional pain syndrome. It was very

technical, but reminds me of the way Alan described his condition of 40

years -- the nuerons, nerve endings, etc.

>

> Alan was going back in for manipulation for scar tissue. But

hopefully he will be back to the site and we'll be a getting a good

report soon.

>

> How did things go witht the surgeon?

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Donna

>

>

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margaret,

this is exactly what the nurse told me that day i spoke to her -- so i bought some vit c and orange juice as well -- but i usually cannot stomach OJ because of the acid, but i did find a low acid kind. do you know what mgs. of vit c i should be taking? thanks!

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

Hi Shirl,I always tell my clients that you need vit c to help absorb the iron. Fresh parsley in the meals and fresh green leafy vegies are both excellent sources of iron and vit c at the same time.Seems nature does know best.Aussie MargaretRTHR 1990 revised 2004

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I don't know Lindy Lou,

I usually try to encourage people to use the foods with high vitamin C and

iron. Nature seems to know what to put together. Green leafy vegetables,

kiwi fruits, pawpaw are all readily available here and have less side

effects than pills.

Aussie Margaret

RTHR 1990 revised 2004

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margaret,

this is exactly what the nurse told me that day i spoke to her -- so i

bought some vit c and orange juice as well -- but i usually cannot stomach

OJ because of the acid, but i did find a low acid kind. do you know what

mgs. of vit c i should be taking? thanks!

Love and Hugs,

Lindy Lou

Right THR 1/22/2007

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okay gotcha margaret, will do. i prefer foods over pills as well. thanks!

Love and Hugs,Lindy LouRight THR 1/22/2007

I don't know Lindy Lou,I usually try to encourage people to use the foods with high vitamin C and iron. Nature seems to know what to put together. Green leafy vegetables, kiwi fruits, pawpaw are all readily available here and have less side effects than pills.Aussie Margaret

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