Re: Re: metal doesn't have pain

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Hi My name is Dave

I am six wks out from a RTKR and have suffered with

chronic back pain for about seven years. I am doing

very well at this time but enough about me.

I am here to tell or advise you most strongly that if

you have chronic pain, DO NOT rely on your primary

doctor as the end all authority on controlling pain.

The doctor I had when my back started acting up had

been my primary doctor at my HMO for years. I had

been very satisfied with his care of my medical needs

until I became a chronic pain sufferer. I slowly

found out that this doctor did not seem to believe in

chronic pain and would only prescribe about 15 days of

low level pain medication at a time. I was at the end

of my rope and was seriously thinking that if this was

how the rest of my life had to be, would someone

please hook me up with Dr. Kavorkien! Thank god for

assertive wifes. After I suffered a year of constant

pain and she suffered the same poriod of having a bad

mood bear for a husband, she INSISTED I go to a pain

clinic. There I found there are people in the

medical comumity that do not treat chronic pain

patients as drug addicts looking for a fix. I was

referred to a doctor who was pain specialist.

I now have a good life, a good wife (about now should

point out she has always been a good wife:)) and my

pain is controlled. I only have bad days now when I

get stupid and attempt to do too much (and then my

good wife tells me about it!)

My point is that most people do not have to live in

extreme constant pain even during surgery recovery.

If you have this problem run do not walk to the

nearest pain clinic and/or get referred to a doctor

who specializes in pain management.

Enough said! I hope you find a future that is pain

free!.

--- debaerspamer <debaerspamer@...> wrote:

>

> Hey,

>

> Its 6 months since bilateral knee replacement. Ive

> done amazingly

> well. (been told by those in the know) Your right

> about the

> metal/pain thing. But unless your doc has had a

> replacement

> personally. I would ask to be refered to a pain

> clinic.

> Surgeons don't usually deal in painmanagment. My GP

> still allows me

> vicodan for pain. You could try that angle. But my

> experince with

> pain managment clinics, through my ailin hubby, has

> really opened my

> eyes.

>

> The folks at my hubbys clinic are ANGELS! They deal

> in helping the

> chronic pain sufferers.No guilt trips, or

> condesending attitudes.

> Love, empathy and understanding are dealt out daily.

>

> We had no idea! I wept for joy on our first visit.

> When the gal

> helpin us with the paper work, assured me that there

> was HOPE, i

> cried.

>

> They work with the patient until proper medications

> and doseges are

> made. If anything, they over perscribe.

> Its been an answer to prayer, and i highly recommend

> anyone dealing

> in the pain game to consider seeking out a pain

> management clinic.

>

> I think you'll be thrilled!! Love,deba

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Metal doesn't

> have pain, but bones do. Unless you've been through

> a replacement,

> you can't understand the discomfort. Don't let

> others get you down.

> When I was in bad pain, my daughter called me " an

> angry, angry

> woman. " That's true, I was. I had never had the

> experience before,

> and I'm an impatient person. I thought the pain

> might never go away.

> Along with that, my surgeon took me off pain meds at

> two weeks.

> Luckily I have a great internist who helped me out.

> I still take pain

> meds if absolutely necessary, but Celebrex and

> occasionally some

> Tylenol usually works.

> >

> > Barb

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> __________________________________________________

> >

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Well said, . Your message is a keeper. I'll save it and send (with credit to , of course), when I read here of someone struggling with pain, but unable to manage it. Including me. The knees (four months on the 8th) are coming along. But the arthritis throughout my body has decided to really dig and hit hard this winter. And it's been a mild winter! I am transferring to a new arthritis doc. I thought I would go that route first. But after reading 's message, I think I'll also get to a pain management specialist. Then I can decide which one does the best in helping me manage. Thanks much, . Hatley <dlatley@...> wrote: Hi My name is DaveI am six wks out from a RTKR and have suffered withchronic back pain for about seven years. I am doingvery well at this time but enough about me. I am here to tell or advise you most strongly that ifyou have chronic pain, DO NOT rely on your primarydoctor as the end all authority on controlling pain. The doctor I had when my back started acting up hadbeen my primary doctor at my HMO for years. I hadbeen very satisfied with his care of my medical needsuntil I became a chronic pain sufferer. I slowlyfound out that this doctor did not seem to believe inchronic pain and would only prescribe about 15 days oflow level pain medication at a time. I was at the endof my

rope and was seriously thinking that if this washow the rest of my life had to be, would someoneplease hook me up with Dr. Kavorkien! Thank god forassertive wifes. After I suffered a year of constantpain and she suffered the same poriod of having a badmood bear for a husband, she INSISTED I go to a painclinic. There I found there are people in themedical comumity that do not treat chronic painpatients as drug addicts looking for a fix. I wasreferred to a doctor who was pain specialist. I now have a good life, a good wife (about now shouldpoint out she has always been a good wife:)) and mypain is controlled. I only have bad days now when Iget stupid and attempt to do too much (and then mygood wife tells me about it!)My point is that most people do not have to live inextreme constant pain even during surgery recovery. If you have this problem run do not walk to thenearest pain clinic and/or get

referred to a doctorwho specializes in pain management.Enough said! I hope you find a future that is painfree!. --- debaerspamer <debaerspamer > wrote:> > Hey,> > Its 6 months since bilateral knee replacement. Ive> done amazingly > well. (been told by those in the know) Your right> about the > metal/pain thing. But unless your doc has had a> replacement > personally. I would ask to be refered to a pain> clinic.> Surgeons don't usually deal in painmanagment. My GP> still allows me > vicodan for pain. You could try that angle. But my> experince with > pain managment clinics, through my ailin hubby, has> really opened my > eyes.> > The folks at my hubbys clinic are ANGELS! They deal> in helping the > chronic pain sufferers.No guilt

trips, or> condesending attitudes.> Love, empathy and understanding are dealt out daily.> > We had no idea! I wept for joy on our first visit.> When the gal > helpin us with the paper work, assured me that there> was HOPE, i > cried.> > They work with the patient until proper medications> and doseges are > made. If anything, they over perscribe.> Its been an answer to prayer, and i highly recommend> anyone dealing > in the pain game to consider seeking out a pain> management clinic.> > I think you'll be thrilled!! Love,deba> > > > > > > Metal doesn't > have pain, but bones do. Unless you've been through> a replacement, > you can't understand the discomfort. Don't let> others get you down. > When I was in bad pain,

my daughter called me "an> angry, angry > woman." That's true, I was. I had never had the> experience before, > and I'm an impatient person. I thought the pain> might never go away. > Along with that, my surgeon took me off pain meds at> two weeks. > Luckily I have a great internist who helped me out.> I still take pain > meds if absolutely necessary, but Celebrex and> occasionally some > Tylenol usually works.> > > > Barb> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Hi Dave, I have suffered Chronic pain I had a right Hip and knee replacement and still in pain and from the hip I don't that much Rom . I never heard of a pain clinic can they really help ? I don't think my insurance will cover it . Well you have a nice day. Susie Hatley <dlatley@...> wrote: Hi My name is DaveI am six wks out from a RTKR and have suffered withchronic back pain for about seven years. I am doingvery well at this time but enough about me. I am here to tell or advise you most strongly that ifyou have chronic pain, DO NOT rely on your primarydoctor as the end all authority on controlling pain. The doctor I had when my back started acting up hadbeen my primary doctor at my HMO for years. I hadbeen very satisfied with his care of my medical needsuntil I became a chronic pain sufferer. I slowlyfound out that this doctor did not seem to believe inchronic pain and would only prescribe about 15 days oflow level pain medication at a time. I was at the endof my rope and was seriously thinking that if this washow the rest of my life had to be,

would someoneplease hook me up with Dr. Kavorkien! Thank god forassertive wifes. After I suffered a year of constantpain and she suffered the same poriod of having a badmood bear for a husband, she INSISTED I go to a painclinic. There I found there are people in themedical comumity that do not treat chronic painpatients as drug addicts looking for a fix. I wasreferred to a doctor who was pain specialist. I now have a good life, a good wife (about now shouldpoint out she has always been a good wife:)) and mypain is controlled. I only have bad days now when Iget stupid and attempt to do too much (and then mygood wife tells me about it!)My point is that most people do not have to live inextreme constant pain even during surgery recovery. If you have this problem run do not walk to thenearest pain clinic and/or get referred to a doctorwho specializes in pain management.Enough said! I hope

you find a future that is painfree!. --- debaerspamer <debaerspamer > wrote:> > Hey,> > Its 6 months since bilateral knee replacement. Ive> done amazingly > well. (been told by those in the know) Your right> about the > metal/pain thing. But unless your doc has had a> replacement > personally. I would ask to be refered to a pain> clinic.> Surgeons don't usually deal in painmanagment. My GP> still allows me > vicodan for pain. You could try that angle. But my> experince with > pain managment clinics, through my ailin hubby, has> really opened my > eyes.> > The folks at my hubbys clinic are ANGELS! They deal> in helping the > chronic pain sufferers.No guilt trips, or> condesending attitudes.> Love, empathy and understanding are

dealt out daily.> > We had no idea! I wept for joy on our first visit.> When the gal > helpin us with the paper work, assured me that there> was HOPE, i > cried.> > They work with the patient until proper medications> and doseges are > made. If anything, they over perscribe.> Its been an answer to prayer, and i highly recommend> anyone dealing > in the pain game to consider seeking out a pain> management clinic.> > I think you'll be thrilled!! Love,deba> > > > > > > Metal doesn't > have pain, but bones do. Unless you've been through> a replacement, > you can't understand the discomfort. Don't let> others get you down. > When I was in bad pain, my daughter called me "an> angry, angry > woman." That's true, I was.

I had never had the> experience before, > and I'm an impatient person. I thought the pain> might never go away. > Along with that, my surgeon took me off pain meds at> two weeks. > Luckily I have a great internist who helped me out.> I still take pain > meds if absolutely necessary, but Celebrex and> occasionally some > Tylenol usually works.> > > > Barb> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Hi Susie: I read Margaret's recommendation that you find a pain management specialist, and I agree. Check out your insurance. I believe you will be covered. A pain management specialist is a doctor, just like other specialists. Wishing you the very best, DonnaSuzanne Snyder <juneflower63@...> wrote: Hi Dave, I have

suffered Chronic pain I had a right Hip and knee replacement and still in pain and from the hip I don't that much Rom . I never heard of a pain clinic can they really help ? I don't think my insurance will cover it . Well you have a nice day. Susie Hatley <dlatley > wrote: Hi My name is DaveI am six wks out from a RTKR and have suffered withchronic back pain for about seven years. I am doingvery well at this time but enough about me. I am here to tell or advise you most strongly that ifyou have chronic pain, DO

NOT rely on your primarydoctor as the end all authority on controlling pain. The doctor I had when my back started acting up hadbeen my primary doctor at my HMO for years. I hadbeen very satisfied with his care of my medical needsuntil I became a chronic pain sufferer. I slowlyfound out that this doctor did not seem to believe inchronic pain and would only prescribe about 15 days oflow level pain medication at a time. I was at the endof my rope and was seriously thinking that if this washow the rest of my life had to be, would someoneplease hook me up with Dr. Kavorkien! Thank god forassertive wifes. After I suffered a year of constantpain and she suffered the same poriod of having a badmood bear for a husband, she INSISTED I go to a painclinic. There I found there are people in themedical comumity that do not treat chronic painpatients as drug addicts looking for a fix. I wasreferred to a doctor who

was pain specialist. I now have a good life, a good wife (about now shouldpoint out she has always been a good wife:)) and mypain is controlled. I only have bad days now when Iget stupid and attempt to do too much (and then mygood wife tells me about it!)My point is that most people do not have to live inextreme constant pain even during surgery recovery. If you have this problem run do not walk to thenearest pain clinic and/or get referred to a doctorwho specializes in pain management.Enough said! I hope you find a future that is painfree!. --- debaerspamer <debaerspamer > wrote:> > Hey,> > Its 6 months since bilateral knee replacement. Ive> done amazingly > well. (been told by those in the know) Your right> about the > metal/pain thing. But unless your doc has had a>

replacement > personally. I would ask to be refered to a pain> clinic.> Surgeons don't usually deal in painmanagment. My GP> still allows me > vicodan for pain. You could try that angle. But my> experince with > pain managment clinics, through my ailin hubby, has> really opened my > eyes.> > The folks at my hubbys clinic are ANGELS! They deal> in helping the > chronic pain sufferers.No guilt trips, or> condesending attitudes.> Love, empathy and understanding are dealt out daily.> > We had no idea! I wept for joy on our first visit.> When the gal > helpin us with the paper work, assured me that there> was HOPE, i > cried.> > They work with the patient until proper medications> and doseges are > made. If anything, they over perscribe.> Its been an answer to prayer, and i highly recommend>

anyone dealing > in the pain game to consider seeking out a pain> management clinic.> > I think you'll be thrilled!! Love,deba> > > > > > > Metal doesn't > have pain, but bones do. Unless you've been through> a replacement, > you can't understand the discomfort. Don't let> others get you down. > When I was in bad pain, my daughter called me "an> angry, angry > woman." That's true, I was. I had never had the> experience before, > and I'm an impatient person. I thought the pain> might never go away. > Along with that, my surgeon took me off pain meds at> two weeks. > Luckily I have a great internist who helped me out.> I still take pain > meds if absolutely necessary, but Celebrex and> occasionally some > Tylenol usually

works.> > > > Barb> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Hi Donna , Thanks for telling me about the insurance covering it I will check into it :-)Well you have a nice day:-) SusieDonna Hart <ohdonna_68@...> wrote: Hi Susie: I read Margaret's

recommendation that you find a pain management specialist, and I agree. Check out your insurance. I believe you will be covered. A pain management specialist is a doctor, just like other specialists. Wishing you the very best, DonnaSuzanne Snyder <juneflower63sbcglobal (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Dave, I have suffered Chronic pain I had a right Hip and knee replacement and still in pain and from the hip I don't that much Rom . I never heard of a pain clinic can they really help ? I don't think my insurance will cover it . Well you have a nice day. Susie Hatley <dlatley > wrote: Hi My name is DaveI am six wks out from a RTKR and have suffered withchronic back pain for about seven years. I am doingvery well at this time but enough about me. I am here to tell or advise you most strongly that ifyou have chronic pain, DO NOT rely on your primarydoctor as the end all authority on controlling pain. The doctor I had when my back started acting up hadbeen my primary doctor at my HMO for years. I hadbeen very satisfied with his care of my medical needsuntil I became a chronic pain

sufferer. I slowlyfound out that this doctor did not seem to believe inchronic pain and would only prescribe about 15 days oflow level pain medication at a time. I was at the endof my rope and was seriously thinking that if this washow the rest of my life had to be, would someoneplease hook me up with Dr. Kavorkien! Thank god forassertive wifes. After I suffered a year of constantpain and she suffered the same poriod of having a badmood bear for a husband, she INSISTED I go to a painclinic. There I found there are people in themedical comumity that do not treat chronic painpatients as drug addicts looking for a fix. I wasreferred to a doctor who was pain specialist. I now have a good life, a good wife (about now shouldpoint out she has always been a good wife:)) and mypain is controlled. I only have bad days now when Iget stupid and attempt to do too much (and then mygood wife tells me about

it!)My point is that most people do not have to live inextreme constant pain even during surgery recovery. If you have this problem run do not walk to thenearest pain clinic and/or get referred to a doctorwho specializes in pain management.Enough said! I hope you find a future that is painfree!. --- debaerspamer <debaerspamer > wrote:> > Hey,> > Its 6 months since bilateral knee replacement. Ive> done amazingly > well. (been told by those in the know) Your right> about the > metal/pain thing. But unless your doc has had a> replacement > personally. I would ask to be refered to a pain> clinic.> Surgeons don't usually deal in painmanagment. My GP> still allows me > vicodan for pain. You could try that angle. But my> experince with > pain managment

clinics, through my ailin hubby, has> really opened my > eyes.> > The folks at my hubbys clinic are ANGELS! They deal> in helping the > chronic pain sufferers.No guilt trips, or> condesending attitudes.> Love, empathy and understanding are dealt out daily.> > We had no idea! I wept for joy on our first visit.> When the gal > helpin us with the paper work, assured me that there> was HOPE, i > cried.> > They work with the patient until proper medications> and doseges are > made. If anything, they over perscribe.> Its been an answer to prayer, and i highly recommend> anyone dealing > in the pain game to consider seeking out a pain> management clinic.> > I think you'll be thrilled!! Love,deba> > > > > > > Metal doesn't > have pain, but bones do. Unless you've been through> a replacement, > you can't understand the discomfort. Don't let> others get you down. > When I was in bad pain, my daughter called me "an> angry, angry > woman." That's true, I was. I had never had the> experience before, > and I'm an impatient person. I thought the pain> might never go away. > Along with that, my surgeon took me off pain meds at> two weeks. > Luckily I have a great internist who helped me out.> I still take pain > meds if absolutely necessary, but Celebrex and> occasionally some > Tylenol usually works.> > > > Barb> > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> >