To CPhT from NJ Re: schedule V logRe:

[Guest guest]

, question?

Can you give the me the link to what you cut and pasted or did you write it?

I NEED the link. Thanks

 

I am sure taht we are not talking about full strength of any of Class II, III,

IV or V to be sold OTCm but rather the diliuted strengths that can be sold OTC.

And yes I have seen in the years past that they were sold in rural areas and

more so in southernmost states had the laws allowing such.

 

Definitely not in CA. 

 

YES I too agree that ONLY pharmacists could fill the OTC lowered strength

controlled substances or narcotics, including the log book.

Again I do not believe that is true in many states about the PSE, PPA and EPI

since they are not considered controlled substances, but  PSE and EPI are BTC,

while PPA has been remvoved from the market.  

 

Due to tracking methods that have improved and the increase in diversion and

addiction, I believe less states allow for this OTC of lower strength CV drugs.

I was not aware  of any  CII, CIII, CIV drugs that were on the OTC list of any

state.  Perhaps they were if watered down enough, but never knew of any.

 

I knew of codeine, turpin hydrate way back when and Lomotil as OTC.

 

"    It has since been used in chronic bronchitis and in the advanced stages of

acute bronchitis, especially when the secretion is unusually free. "

" Terpin Hydrate and Codeine Elixir contains, in each 100 mL, 1.53-1.87 g of

(terpin hydrate), and 180-220 mg of (codeine). "

 

 

http://drugstoremuseum.com/sections/level_info2.php?level_id=70

 

Assuming what I found is true the codeine would be at the highest 220mg/100 ml

would be 11 mg of codeine in 5 ml or 1 tsp. a very low dose. Currently we have

acetaminophen 15 mg or  1/4 grain and 7.5 mg which is 1/8 grain at Rx ONLY in

the US.  So go fig.

 

And finally I read: " Terpin Hydrate Elixir was still available as an OTC in the

US up until the late 1980's when it was removed from the market. " Also from the

same site.

As well as the statement below:

"

" Currently the FDA's final monograph for otc expectorants is guaifenesin

(Glyceryl Guaiacolate) is the only agent approved for use as an expectorant in

the USA. Formerly used expectorants like ammonium chloride, beechwood creosote,

benzoin preparations, camphor, eucalyptol/eucalyptus oil, iodines, ipecac syrup,

menthol/peppermint oil, pine tar preparations, potassium guaiacolsulfonate,

sodium citrate, squill preparations, terpin hydrate, tolu and turpentine oil,

must be reformulated. "

Yeah we have been around along time! Which is why I called upon you.  I

think you may be out there a few years longer than I.  

 

At any rate I could find that exact strengths on the internet about 5 years ago,

and I will be a monkey's aunt that I can not any more.

 

Still looking for more concrete information. So if you could send that

link I would appreciate it. 

 

Thanks,

Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

Founder/Owner

 

 

 

From: mariacpht <cphtgenius@...>

Subject: To CPhT from NJ Re: schedule V log

Date: Friday, February 19, 2010, 7:41 PM

Aren't you in Washington?  I found the law from WA-BOP and posted it.  I didn't

attach the date from the top of the page but I think it said it was last updated

March 2003.

It's legal in NJ too.  There isn't a demand for it(where I live anyway) and we

choose not to stock those drugs in OTC packaging.  We do carry them in Rx stock

bottles.  If a customer came in demanding something, I'm sure we'd order it (you

know the customer is always right and all that).  I do remember all those years

ago when I worked in a pharmacy that did sell them, it was only one or two

regular customers and it was always for terpin hydrate with codeine.

>

> my pharmacy only sells it by prescription.  in school (12 years ago)  we were

told it was mostly in rural areas where this was sold otc.  now that the

pseudoephedrine has a log book this may be more common

> Subject: To CPhT from  NJ Re: schedule V  log

>

>

> As I read the paragraph below, only the pharmacist may " sell " schedule V

drugs.

> What do you think?

>

> -NJ

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> Dispensing Without a Prescription

> In states where limited quantities of Schedule V preparations may be sold

over-the-counter, the pharmacist is responsible for making sure that such sales

comply with state law. Schedule V controlled substances or any controlled

substance listed in Schedule II, III or IV which is not a prescription item

under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act may be dispensed without a

prescription at retail provided that:

>

> 1.Such distribution is made only by a pharmacist and not by a non-pharmacist

employee, even if under the direct supervision of a pharmacist. However, after

the pharmacist has fulfilled professional and legal responsibilities, the actual

cash, credit transaction or delivery may be completed by a non-pharmacist.

>

> 2.Because there is no physician determining the medical necessity for a

Schedule V over-the-counter product, the pharmacist must ensure th

>

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