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Deska,

I'm sorry you feel like no one has responded, some days ar ejust hit or miss

sometimes. Most of us do read these boards frequently even though we son't have

time to respond, me being one of them. So I apologize for myself.

It is frustrating, and I can empathize.

We just moved cross country and are trying to re-establish the level of care

that we had in our previous state.. To be honest I was hoping we would get

better answers. Which is turning out not to be the case.

I can only encourage you to keep on pushing the doctors, and also to keep a

diary or log of symptoms to have better back -up so to speak to show the

doctors.

Gotta run

GOod Luck

Missy

www.caringbridge.org/boggio kids

Mom to

10 hypogamma IVIG etc

Mari Healthy

Max T cell dysfunction currently being tested for NUMEROUS things

Deska <deska66@...> wrote:

April,

Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

given him is Hypogammaglobulinemia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

Can I email you directly? my email is deska66@... ...

> I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

support. I have

> posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

things.

> We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> get 504's.

>

> If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> need a place where I can find some support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

takes off against the wind, not with it.

> --Henry Ford

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

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Deska,

This is a very good group. Sorry that you didn't get a response when you

first posted. I know that if you ask for something specific you should get

answers. My immune Dr actually told me that I should ask my questions to

this group as they were that good they help keep her on her toes. We too

are actually a pretty " mild " case as PID goes, but still suffering none the

less. My husband is PID-CVID, Hypogamma. and so is my son. My husband is

36 now and been doing IVIG/SCIG for the last 3 years but before that

suffered for 19 years before they found out what he had. When my MIL tried

to get help for him they ignored her in her day people just thought she was

a bad mother, her close friends tell her that to this day, no one believed

her. When my son was born we knew he could get what Dad had, and at a year

it was confirmed. But the first 3-4 years wasn't so bad, then it hit, now

DS 6 yo is doing SCIG for 5 months now and it's starting to get better.

When I think it's tough I just think of my MIL and how bad she had it, at

least we have the internet and all it's resources, she was still looking at

the PDR from the library.

Ok, one other note, I see you mention looking into Celiac, watch the blood

results on that one. With having low or nonexistent IGA and IGG numbers it

throws off the Celiac results. I had to educate some of our Dr's on this.

It's in the book Dangerous Grains, but your results may be off because you

won't read positive in certain blood markers because it's not there to show

up. Only true test especially for our kids is the endoscopy with proof of

damage.

-Michele

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April,

Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

given him is Hypogammaglobulinemia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

Can I email you directly? my email is deska66@...

<mailto:deska66%40> ...

> I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

support. I have

> posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

things.

> We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> get 504's.

>

> If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> need a place where I can find some support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

takes off against the wind, not with it.

> --Henry Ford

>

> ---------------------------------

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

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Deska,

I am in GA too and am having a very hard time. What your kids are

going through sounds exactally like my twin boys 15 months old. They

have very simmilar test results. Are you near the Atlanta area? We are

having to fight wiht the schools for our other 2 daughters as we are

afraid of them bringing home the germs from school to their brothers.

It is rough. It would be nice to talk ot someone who lives in this

state and can navigate the waters with us..

On May 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Deska wrote:

> April,

>

> Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

> low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

> being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

> on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

> given him is Hypogammaglobulinemia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

> just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

> the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

> to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

> right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

> sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

>

> We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

> since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

> this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

> disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

> picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

> even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

>

> Can I email you directly? my email is deska66@... ...

>

>

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

> aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has

> been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over

> the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And

> then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

> said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do

> have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot

> of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

> trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

> stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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,

I am North of Atlanta, and go to Austell to Atlanta Allergy and Asthma

clinic and see Dr. Armstrong as our Immunologist. Who are you seeing??

We go to ish Rite for most of our specialists, i.e. ENT, GI, etc.

Dr. Noevelly, Dr. , etc.

send me an email deska66@...!

> > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > support. I have

> > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

> > aren't

> > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> > things.

> > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has

> > been

> > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over

> > the

> > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And

> > then

> > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

> > said, I

> > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do

> > have

> > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot

> > of

> > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

> > trying to

> > > get 504's.

> > >

> > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

> > stuff. I

> > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > --Henry Ford

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> > Try it now.

> > >

> > >

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Deska,

Im sorry, Im certain Ive replied to you once or twice.....and I think

you've written back to me. I remember writing to you about the

tracheomalacia, bc my two boys have that.

Ive been in this group for 2 yrs, and sometimes, I post and get no

response. Sometimes, too many postings happen in one day, and not

everyone can read thru all of them, so someones gets missed.

Sometimes, I read a post and while I empathize, I might have nothing

to contribute, so I stay quiet.

Im sorry you feel ignored. I understand, and I want you to know I have

read your posts. I was gone for a week with my daughters class from

school we went camping, and now Im still trying to get caught back up

on posts.

valarie

In , " Deska " <deska66@...> wrote:

>

> I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for support. I have

> posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

things.

> We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> get 504's.

>

> If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> need a place where I can find some support.

>

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Hi Deska,

I'm sorry nobody answered before, I know for me I usually don't chime

in unless something hits a chord, but everyone's posts are SO helpful

to me, and also as a record of these diseases - I've often felt there

should be an official transcript of our messages because so many of

the things that alot of people here relate to are not " official "

pieces of the PID diagnosis, but people here quickly relate and

say " us too! " .

I do have a comment about celiac - my son went through rigorous

testing for celiac and a six month gluten free trial, etc. The trial

made no difference to his gi picture. He has severe " villous

blunting " and other things usually associated with celiac, but

without celiac. This is not unheard of with his diagnosis of CVID (a

PID). It's a gi condition that mimics celiac, but isn't celiac. He

gets endoscopies every six months (we have one coming up next week

actually) to monitor what they now call " autoimmune enteritis " , for

lack of a better term. He has had times when the biopsy shows

abnormal cell activity, so they want to keep a close look. Prednisone

has helped when it kicks up too much. I think probably his gi

picture is the biggest " threat " for him as he doesn't get the bad

lung disease commonly seen with CVID. Just something to keep in

mind - I think PID's can have the signs and symptoms of celiac, but

without celiac - that's my understanding anyway.

blessings to everyone,

Kate (mother to Ben - CVID, ALPS, Ring Chromosome 18, hearing loss,

autism, cerbral palsy) & 3 " normals "

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has

been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to,

for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over

the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last

month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And

then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do

have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in

our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

lot of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a

new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I

just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the

airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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---Deska,

When my daughter was tested for celiac, we were unable to test her

with the IGA test, bc her IGA levels were too low. To my knowledge, if

his IGA is low, then they would have to do a scope w/ biopsy to test

accurately.

I feel you......my 10 yr old daughter was just dx'd failure to thrive.

She is very picky, very thin, and losing weight. It is really

frustrating. We;ve been working with a new dietician, who's given me

some new ideas to try.

valarie

> > I totally hear you on the Dr's not wanting to do anything,

> especially since my kids are not in " dire " need.... and it is

> frustrating and upsetting when you have to fight for everything!!

> > i have 4 kids and both of the boys seem to be my biggest medical

> issues. I have one son, my youngest, that was just Dx'd with SDS...but

> he also has low IgG levels and with both things manages to stay sick

> alot! His levels are not so low that anyone else seems too worried

> about it...I made an appt to have him see my other sons allergy/immun

> dr..

> >

> > my oldest son has and has had since 1 yrs old low IgG levels and

> now low subclass levels as well. The only reason I got our

> allert/immun dr to retest was because I found his test from when he

> was 1 yr and it was 1/2 what it should've been... before that she

> didnt feel the need to test! we are now on track....

> >

> > I am glad you posted today, because sometimes everyone needs a

> reminder.. mild kids are improtant too...and for new to this parents,

> we need support...

> >

> > April

> >

> > Deska <deska66@> wrote:

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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Thanks guys for your replies!

My GI Dr did say that the low IGA levels might interfere with the

testing for Celiac, but from what I read about it, he doesn't present

a lot of the symptoms, our main concern is the reflux. He does want to

do an endoscopy, but would rather wait until our ENT decides if he is

going to do another set of tubes in the fall (even though our current

set is still in ... but with more hearing damage I just don't know)

My other question was this ...

The immuno said for my oldest that she wanted to do the Pneumovax

vaccine to check his titers, but didn't even mention it for my younger

son, who has more problems, would she not need to do this for both of

them???

Maybe I've just had a rough week and was overly sensitive, so I

apologize as well. I've sat at home this week and asked my friend

, who is also on this board, did she ever just go to her room and

cry when no one else was looking.

I know my kids could be worse, but this stuff can get so overwhelming

when I am trying to work full time, and keep their lives as " normal "

as possible, as the Dr's haven't said to limit their activities, and

they are still playing baseball, etc as much as they can and doing

school as much as they can. Winter sports don't go over well for my

little guy, b/c generally he's too sick in the winter to participate.

So my springs are so jammed packed and now working/ball schedules and

now all of these appts I've just been so overwhelmed by all of it and

not getting much support from my mom ... and my husband thinks it's

all sort of " odd " he's not sure what he believes as far as diagnosis

goes just yet.

Thanks for the replies today though, I do appreciate it!

Deska

> > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > support. I have

> > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

aren't

> > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> > things.

> > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it

has been

> > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times

over the

> > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release.

And then

> > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

said, I

> > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they

do have

> > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

lot of

> > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

trying to

> > > get 504's.

> > >

> > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

stuff. I

> > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > --Henry Ford

> > >

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Deska,

I've been terribly behind with posts and wanted to share with you that anyone

that does not get a response should not be shy to repost. : ) Many of our

parents are just like you...juggling a bizillion things and read their messages

when they come up for air. (I've missed most of my mail this week.) It can be

upsetting when few people answer a cry for help. Please never hesitate to

re-post.

You said: " The immuno said for my oldest that she wanted to do the Pneumovax

vaccine to check his titers, but didn't even mention it for my younger son, who

has more problems... "

I'm not sure of your children's ages or you're doctor's rationale for

not doing any intervention (vaccine or otherwise) with your younger

child yet. Generally pneumovax is given to children that are 2+ years old who

are not immunocompromised or in the middle of an illness. Prevnar is generally

given to children < 2 years of age. If the vaccine titers were on the

" borderline " , the doctor may wait and see if the titers drop further or

revaccinate. Or, if things look like a PID profile may administer antibiotics

and/or IVIg.

As for celiac disease, biopsy is the only way to know what's really going on.

Even if you have normal IgA, a doc skilled in celiac will want confirmation by

biopsy. You are correct that celiac does can manifest with really obvious

sumptoms....but not always. Sometimes, it can show up as unspecific symptoms

(e.g., GI pain, joint pain, infertility, etc.). We had to scope my daughter

but, before we did so, I make certain that every single GI test that we ever

anticipated might be needed would be done at that time (and under general

anesthetic), so that we might reduce our chances of ever having her scoped

again. So, I can understand your desire to talk to the other specialists first.

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HI Deska, So sorry you feel that no one is answering. I would say that weekends

things can be quiet. ( I delete posts as I go) This is a VERY warm and welcoming

group but it has been very quiet this week as well. Anyway WELCOME!!!! My son is

12 and I have been a part of this group since he was 3 and we started IVIg. He

is now on Sub Q gammaglobulin. He has CVID common variable immune deficiency

that took several years to get a complete diagnosis. He is also Bipolar and has

quite a few other emotional issues. ( Sensory integrations, ADD, etc) Please

feel free to ask ANY questions you might have and make sure that you contact

Immune Deficiency Foundation and access and incredble array of supportive

resources and printed materials you can order. This groups main page also has

other resources to check into. Please do not feel that we do not care. I am not

sure I saw any specific questions so fire away and we can try to be more

inviting. !!!!!!!

 BARBIE 

?????

I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for support. I have

posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar things.

We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

get 504's.

If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

need a place where I can find some support.

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deska,

I am also in north atlanta. I am in cumming. We too went to Atlanta

allergy to start with as we thought that all the boys GI problems were

related to food allergies. We were blown off by the practice (in

alpharetta) and were not happy. They told us that the boys tested

negative for all the allergies they tested for and to come back in 4

months. It was such a joke. After another doc ordered the immunology

work up we took the results back to atlanta allergy to give them

another chance and were again blown off. They told us that the boys

Igg and IgA levels would surely go up in 6 months time. not to worry

about it. They had less than half what they should have. We found

another immunologist that saw the same test results and could not

believe that we were dismissed like that by other doctors. It has been

a crazy rollercoaster. We have an ent that is not great but put tubes

in the boys ears before we knew about the immunology issues. As for GI

we really need to see one but have not been able to get in ot see one

yet as the waits are about 6-8 weeks. Our immunologist is Dr. Levy and

she is good a getting answers. WE are still working on getting our

answers but if it were not for her we would have nothing.

On May 7, 2008, at 10:22 AM, Deska wrote:

> ,

>

> I am North of Atlanta, and go to Austell to Atlanta Allergy and Asthma

> clinic and see Dr. Armstrong as our Immunologist. Who are you seeing??

> We go to ish Rite for most of our specialists, i.e. ENT, GI, etc.

> Dr. Noevelly, Dr. , etc.

>

> send me an email deska66@...!

>

>

> > > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > > support. I have

> > > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

> > > aren't

> > > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have

> similar

> > > things.

> > > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it

> has

> > > been

> > > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them

> to, for

> > > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times

> over

> > > the

> > > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last

> month,

> > > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release.

> And

> > > then

> > > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

> > > said, I

> > > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they

> do

> > > have

> > > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that

> not

> > > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first

> in our

> > > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system

> through

> > > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

> lot

> > > of

> > > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

> > > trying to

> > > > get 504's.

> > > >

> > > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group,

> then I

> > > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

> > > stuff. I

> > > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with

> a new

> > > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent

> ear

> > > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and

> I just

> > > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the

> airplane

> > > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > > --Henry Ford

> > > >

> > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> Mobile.

> > > Try it now.

> > > >

> > > >

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My sons are 10 and 6. The immuno has said that they do have a PID.

They both have low IGA/IGG levels. My 6yr old also has low subclass

levels and his t-cell panel levels only have 1 level that is acutally

" low " and 2 that are borderline. My oldest son has the low IGA/IGG

levels, but no subclass levels that are low. She has said they both

have Hypogammaglobulinemia.

My youngest one is the one that had tracheomalacia and the heart

murmur and the reflux, and asthma ... and she started him on

prophylactic antibiotics already, not IVIG. But I just thought it was

odd to not even mention the Pneumovax thing for him at all yet, but

automatically mention it for my oldest one. I don't really understand

it all, or the process, so maybe it's just b/c I'm new to it all and

don't understand the process.

>

> Deska,

>

> I've been terribly behind with posts and wanted to share with you

that anyone that does not get a response should not be shy to repost.

: ) Many of our parents are just like you...juggling a bizillion

things and read their messages when they come up for air. (I've missed

most of my mail this week.) It can be upsetting when few people

answer a cry for help. Please never hesitate to re-post.

>

> You said: " The immuno said for my oldest that she wanted to do the

Pneumovax vaccine to check his titers, but didn't even mention it for

my younger son, who has more problems... "

>

> I'm not sure of your children's ages or you're doctor's rationale for

> not doing any intervention (vaccine or otherwise) with your younger

> child yet. Generally pneumovax is given to children that are 2+

years old who are not immunocompromised or in the middle of an

illness. Prevnar is generally given to children < 2 years of age. If

the vaccine titers were on the " borderline " , the doctor may wait and

see if the titers drop further or revaccinate. Or, if things look

like a PID profile may administer antibiotics and/or IVIg.

>

> As for celiac disease, biopsy is the only way to know what's really

going on. Even if you have normal IgA, a doc skilled in celiac will

want confirmation by biopsy. You are correct that celiac does can

manifest with really obvious sumptoms....but not always. Sometimes,

it can show up as unspecific symptoms (e.g., GI pain, joint pain,

infertility, etc.). We had to scope my daughter but, before we did

so, I make certain that every single GI test that we ever anticipated

might be needed would be done at that time (and under general

anesthetic), so that we might reduce our chances of ever having her

scoped again. So, I can understand your desire to talk to the other

specialists first.

>

> S.

>

>

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Have either boys had their antibodies tested with Prevnar or Pneumovaccine. That

is generally the next step in to seeing if gammaglobulin would be helpful to

give them a better life. My sons sinuses have been cleaned out surgically

several times due to severe sinus infections. I am not sure why the ENT would

not consider rinsing them to open them up and prevent further damage. Have you

heard of using nasal rinses? We have had much more help with sinus rinses at

home than anything else, there are several ways to do  it but basically it is

like washing your hands regularly. We use a grossen hydropulse machine with a

special nose tip. EASY and it goes along with brushing your teeth. (like a

waterpik but with a nose attachment)

 BARBIE 

Re: ?????

April,

Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

given him is Hypogammaglobulinem ia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

Can I email you directly? my email is deska66 (DOT) com ...

> I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

support. I have

> posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

things.

> We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> get 504's.

>

> If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> need a place where I can find some support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

takes off against the wind, not with it.

> --Henry Ford

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

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,

We just saw Dr at ish Rite .. the wait time was not long

there. You should call there and try to get them in with him. He seems

pretty good, however, I don't have anything to compare it too.

Dr. Armstrong has been great with my boys at Atlanta Allergy, I don't

which Dr you saw there, but she is good with my kiddos. I have thought

about getting a second opinion, just to have a second opinion, but

don't really want to go through all of this again right now, ya know?

I am in sville, though, by the way. I think I left that off before.

Feel free to call me though, I would love to talk to someone near by.

770-910-2321

> > > > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > > > support. I have

> > > > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

> > > > aren't

> > > > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have

> > similar

> > > > things.

> > > > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it

> > has

> > > > been

> > > > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them

> > to, for

> > > > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times

> > over

> > > > the

> > > > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last

> > month,

> > > > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release.

> > And

> > > > then

> > > > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

> > > > said, I

> > > > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they

> > do

> > > > have

> > > > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that

> > not

> > > > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first

> > in our

> > > > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system

> > through

> > > > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

> > lot

> > > > of

> > > > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

> > > > trying to

> > > > > get 504's.

> > > > >

> > > > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group,

> > then I

> > > > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

> > > > stuff. I

> > > > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with

> > a new

> > > > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent

> > ear

> > > > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and

> > I just

> > > > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the

> > airplane

> > > > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > > > --Henry Ford

> > > > >

> > > > > ---------------------------------

> > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with

> > Mobile.

> > > > Try it now.

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Michele,

I know you have posted before regarding inaccurate allergy testing. I brought

this up at my Immunologists office the other day. The NP seemed to thing that

the RAST testing should be accurate. I seem to think like what you have been

saying that they would not be accurate based on poor immune response. Do you

know of any articles that might give us some further back up. Lucas had 4+++++

allergies as an infant an toddler. He had not been tested for years but with

Gammaglobulin many of his problems were moderated. ( hives, eczema, severe sinus

, as well as many of his gut problems that he had.  etc) but he recently had an

endoscopy and it showed on 2s fro many many foods. as well as his gut looked

much much better than before. But.......his biopsies showed some  inflammation.

 BARBIE 

Re: ?????

April,

Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

given him is Hypogammaglobulinem ia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

Can I email you directly? my email is deska66 (DOT) com

<mailto:deska66% 40> ...

> I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

support. I have

> posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

things.

> We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> get 504's.

>

> If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> need a place where I can find some support.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

takes off against the wind, not with it.

> --Henry Ford

>

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

Try it now.

>

>

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I think Ursula is from Georgia is she not? I know she goes to DUKE as well as

EMORY and I think they are some of the best programs in the year.

 BARBIE 

Re: Re: ?????

Deska,

I am in GA too and am having a very hard time. What your kids are

going through sounds exactally like my twin boys 15 months old. They

have very simmilar test results. Are you near the Atlanta area? We are

having to fight wiht the schools for our other 2 daughters as we are

afraid of them bringing home the germs from school to their brothers.

It is rough. It would be nice to talk ot someone who lives in this

state and can navigate the waters with us..

On May 7, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Deska wrote:

> April,

>

> Right! I hate having to fight for everything! my 6yr old Jayden has

> low IGA/IGG levels and 3 subclass def the other one is tinkering on

> being low, he has one t-cell level that is low, and 2 others that on

> on the border of being low, so the only official diagnosis she has

> given him is Hypogammaglobulinem ia. My oldest son, Phoenix 10yrs old,

> just has the IGA/IGG def. no subclass, no t-cell, but he has all fo

> the allergies. They both have chronic sinus infections, and according

> to the ct-scans, they need sinus surgery, but we're not doing that

> right now with all of this staph that is running rampant in GA. (I'm

> sure it's just as bad everywhere else too)

>

> We went to the ENT Friday and my youngest has lost even more hearing

> since 2yrs ago, I don't know if anything ties into that with all of

> this. And yesterday to the GI dr and they are now testing for Celiac

> disease too b/c of the low IGA and how bad his reflux still is and his

> picky eating habits and being on the lower end of the growth charts,

> even though he's not super small, he is on the lower side.

>

> Can I email you directly? my email is deska66 (DOT) com ...

>

>

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

> aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has

> been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over

> the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And

> then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

> said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do

> have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot

> of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

> trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

> stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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Barbie --

They haven't really mentioned anything as far treatment except for the

amoxicillin for my youngest son. Yesterday at the GI Dr, even he said

something about the lymph nodes in his neck still being swollen. And

he's had a low grade fever for a week now, and I call the ped and they

tell me to call the immuno and then they tell me to call the ped, I

feel like I'm getting the runaround. What do you guys do about that?

And like his hearing issues, he still has the last set of tubes, do

hearing problems go along with this or is it just b/c they have more

ear infections and it's just a result of?

Deska

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

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Deska, Maybe everyone would benefit from an Activities break. I only allow my

children one thing per season. First with all the medical appts, the amount of

time getting everywhere, and etc I am too tired. I know that my kids have really

benefited from this. This is pretty common for larger families due to money and

the time resources but I think parents with only a couple of kids have a

tendancy to try to give their kids the " big family benefits " It is nice to just

have an " evening home " rather than running everywhere. Works for us. Also if

you are wiped out then it is hard to give back to our kids. As far as the

Pneumovax I would ask . Maybe she just forgot. Always ask that is our job to

advocate for our kids and if we do not understand in anyway we as far as I am

concerned MUST ask to manage their care appropriately. Also the antibody testing

is the next part of the testing ( or the standard practice) for most

immunologist. It takes

several months to get back but it is good info.

 BARBIE 

Re: ?????

Thanks guys for your replies!

My GI Dr did say that the low IGA levels might interfere with the

testing for Celiac, but from what I read about it, he doesn't present

a lot of the symptoms, our main concern is the reflux. He does want to

do an endoscopy, but would rather wait until our ENT decides if he is

going to do another set of tubes in the fall (even though our current

set is still in ... but with more hearing damage I just don't know)

My other question was this ...

The immuno said for my oldest that she wanted to do the Pneumovax

vaccine to check his titers, but didn't even mention it for my younger

son, who has more problems, would she not need to do this for both of

them???

Maybe I've just had a rough week and was overly sensitive, so I

apologize as well. I've sat at home this week and asked my friend

, who is also on this board, did she ever just go to her room and

cry when no one else was looking.

I know my kids could be worse, but this stuff can get so overwhelming

when I am trying to work full time, and keep their lives as " normal "

as possible, as the Dr's haven't said to limit their activities, and

they are still playing baseball, etc as much as they can and doing

school as much as they can. Winter sports don't go over well for my

little guy, b/c generally he's too sick in the winter to participate.

So my springs are so jammed packed and now working/ball schedules and

now all of these appts I've just been so overwhelmed by all of it and

not getting much support from my mom ... and my husband thinks it's

all sort of " odd " he's not sure what he believes as far as diagnosis

goes just yet.

Thanks for the replies today though, I do appreciate it!

Deska

> > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > support. I have

> > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

aren't

> > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> > things.

> > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it

has been

> > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times

over the

> > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release.

And then

> > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

said, I

> > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they

do have

> > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

lot of

> > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

trying to

> > > get 504's.

> > >

> > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

stuff. I

> > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > --Henry Ford

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> > Try it now.

> > >

> > >

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No not all of our kids have hearing problems. It is generally due to chronic ear

and sinus infections. My son had 22 ear infections before his 2nd birthday and

one antibiotic after another. One of the tell tell signs of an immune system not

working properly is that a single course and many times repeated courses of

antibiotics do not clear the infections. Another one in some circumstances is

that some kids do not get enlarged lymph nodes or even run fevers when other

kids would . That said there are I think I have heard over 174 different immune

disorders now but many of them are lumped into larger categories because the

field is so new. We are so fortunate to have the IDF and to have NIH really

trying identify many of the differences. So.... it is not unusual for doctors to

have very little info regarding these situations. Many Allergist have minimal

training in regards to Immunology and if they did not study in the past 15 to 20

years as a doctor and

has not spent time updating their training then they do not know much more and

in some circumstances less than those of us who have been saturated in the field

and getting accurate info from IDF, Jeffery Modell Foundation etc. So if those

that are putting out the shingle as a AAI or ENT do not know much then think

about where Family Practice and Pediatricians and GI doctors are with their

training. I say all of this to say the BEST place to get care is from a Dr. who

is immersed in the field. You are fortunate to be near a good center such as

DUKE that is working on the edge of the field. One option is to call the IDF and

get a physcian referal and get the usual Guidelines for Care in immune

deficiencies. I hope this helps.

 BARBIE 

Re: ?????

Barbie --

They haven't really mentioned anything as far treatment except for the

amoxicillin for my youngest son. Yesterday at the GI Dr, even he said

something about the lymph nodes in his neck still being swollen. And

he's had a low grade fever for a week now, and I call the ped and they

tell me to call the immuno and then they tell me to call the ped, I

feel like I'm getting the runaround. What do you guys do about that?

And like his hearing issues, he still has the last set of tubes, do

hearing problems go along with this or is it just b/c they have more

ear infections and it's just a result of?

Deska

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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I had to run out and am at urgent care now. Jayden came home crying in pain with

his head and his fever was up. I will reply more when I get home.

Thanks for all of the response.

On May 7, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Barbara Jimenez <mother5590@...> wrote:

No not all of our kids have hearing problems. It is generally due to chronic ear

and sinus infections. My son had 22 ear infections before his 2nd birthday and

one antibiotic after another. One of the tell tell signs of an immune system not

working properly is that a single course and many times repeated courses of

antibiotics do not clear the infections. Another one in some circumstances is

that some kids do not get enlarged lymph nodes or even run fevers when other

kids would . That said there are I think I have heard over 174 different immune

disorders now but many of them are lumped into larger categories because the

field is so new. We are so fortunate to have the IDF and to have NIH really

trying identify many of the differences. So.... it is not unusual for doctors to

have very little info regarding these situations. Many Allergist have minimal

training in regards to Immunology and if they did not study in the past 15 to 20

years as a doctor and

has not spent time updating their training then they do not know much more and

in some circumstances less than those of us who have been saturated in the field

and getting accurate info from IDF, Jeffery Modell Foundation etc. So if those

that are putting out the shingle as a AAI or ENT do not know much then think

about where Family Practice and Pediatricians and GI doctors are with their

training. I say all of this to say the BEST place to get care is from a Dr. who

is immersed in the field. You are fortunate to be near a good center such as

DUKE that is working on the edge of the field. One option is to call the IDF and

get a physcian referal and get the usual Guidelines for Care in immune

deficiencies. I hope this helps.

BARBIE

Re: ?????

Barbie --

They haven't really mentioned anything as far treatment except for the

amoxicillin for my youngest son. Yesterday at the GI Dr, even he said

something about the lymph nodes in his neck still being swollen. And

he's had a low grade fever for a week now, and I call the ped and they

tell me to call the immuno and then they tell me to call the ped, I

feel like I'm getting the runaround. What do you guys do about that?

And like his hearing issues, he still has the last set of tubes, do

hearing problems go along with this or is it just b/c they have more

ear infections and it's just a result of?

Deska

> > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> support. I have

> > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids aren't

> > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> things.

> > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it has been

> > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times over the

> > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release. And then

> > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I said, I

> > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they do have

> > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a lot of

> > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are trying to

> > get 504's.

> >

> > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this stuff. I

> > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > need a place where I can find some support.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > --Henry Ford

> >

> > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> Try it now.

> >

> >

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Deska,

Sorry, I missed that your younger son was 6 yrs. It is also peculiar to me why

they did not address pneumovax titers/vaccination--given that his diagnosis is

hypogamma.

There are a few Georgia families here and it would be nice if you could connect

with them.

As for GI issues, I'm not sure about your options in GA. Maybe others know? It

does occur to me that you might benefit from being seen at a

*comprehensive* facility -- one that can treat the GI + immune issues.

For example, CCHMC (Cincinnati) has a fine peds GI department. People on this

list have traveled there for care. One of my peers used Dr. Cotton (CCHMC

surgeon) for surgery on her son's trachea at age two (had stridor and was

aspirating since birth.). They also have a strong immunology and allergy

department, if you are considering another opinion.

mom to Dani, 6, CVID

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We're from right below Macon. We've seen Jeff in the past but had a

difference of opinion and see a GI at Emory Children's center that deals with

PID/GI issues. She's also a good motility doctor. Macey's immunologist is

Kobrynski at the same clinic.

Does your son see anyone at Sibley Heart center for the murmur? I've heard Dr.

Levy lecture for the IDF at a Southeastern Family retreat in Atlanta probably

about 3 or so years ago. Liked her alot. I wish I could get my husband to see

her (he also has CVID).

I would encourage you to find a good primary doctor (pediatrician) who can

coordinate all of these doctors and allow you to be Mom.

I'm hoping to be able to get together a Georgia family meeting for the IDF

sometime in the Fall. Plus the IDF's national conference is in June 2009 at

Walt Disney World so start thinking about going to that. www.primaryimmune.org

Meanwhile if you want a second opinion please know that Dr. K is a wonderful

resource. She'd be fine with evaluating him and releasing him to a more local

doc or taking them on herself.

Ursula - mom to (15) and Macey (12, CVID)

http://www.primaryimmune.org

http://www.jmfworld.org

http://caringbridge.org/ga/macey/

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,

I'm wondering if it's b/c he's been so sick still and having the

fevers and infections that she's trying to get under control???

I don't know if we have any comprehensive facilities. I'll have to

check into that. I'd like to be able to go to one place and get

everything checked. That would make life so much easier.

Our Tracheomalacia has gotten better now, finally, but he still gets

croup/asthma a lot. Luckily the pulmicort flexhaler has been a life

saver!

thanks for your advice!

Deska

mom to Jayden 6, Phoenix 10

>

> Deska,

>

> Sorry, I missed that your younger son was 6 yrs. It is also

peculiar to me why they did not address pneumovax

titers/vaccination--given that his diagnosis is hypogamma.

>

> There are a few Georgia families here and it would be nice if you

could connect with them.

>

> As for GI issues, I'm not sure about your options in GA. Maybe

others know? It does occur to me that you might benefit from being

seen at a

> *comprehensive* facility -- one that can treat the GI + immune issues.

>

> For example, CCHMC (Cincinnati) has a fine peds GI department.

People on this list have traveled there for care. One of my peers

used Dr. Cotton (CCHMC surgeon) for surgery on her son's trachea at

age two (had stridor and was aspirating since birth.). They also have

a strong immunology and allergy department, if you are considering

another opinion.

>

>

> mom to Dani, 6, CVID

>

>

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Ursula,

I kind of want a second opinion just b/c of the newness of it and the

differing opinions on everything. I hate to think about doing all of

this all over again, but want a good feeling about everything too.

Does she have a really long wait? Do you know? I wonder how that would

work with our insurance?

I'll have to check into it. Dr. Levy or the other one either one. I'm

already driving to Austell, so the Perimeter wouldn't be that far.

Thanks for all the info again! :)

Deska

>

> We're from right below Macon. We've seen Jeff in the past but

had a difference of opinion and see a GI at Emory Children's center

that deals with PID/GI issues. She's also a good motility doctor.

Macey's immunologist is Kobrynski at the same clinic.

>

> Does your son see anyone at Sibley Heart center for the murmur?

I've heard Dr. Levy lecture for the IDF at a Southeastern Family

retreat in Atlanta probably about 3 or so years ago. Liked her alot.

I wish I could get my husband to see her (he also has CVID).

>

> I would encourage you to find a good primary doctor (pediatrician)

who can coordinate all of these doctors and allow you to be Mom.

>

> I'm hoping to be able to get together a Georgia family meeting for

the IDF sometime in the Fall. Plus the IDF's national conference is

in June 2009 at Walt Disney World so start thinking about going to

that. www.primaryimmune.org

>

> Meanwhile if you want a second opinion please know that Dr. K is a

wonderful resource. She'd be fine with evaluating him and releasing

him to a more local doc or taking them on herself.

>

> Ursula - mom to (15) and Macey (12, CVID)

> http://www.primaryimmune.org

> http://www.jmfworld.org

> http://caringbridge.org/ga/macey/

>

>

>

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---Deska,

you dont need a script for sinus rinses, you can buy them OTC. I

bought ours at Rite Aid, I bought the Neilmed brand, a low pressure

spray bottle, you mix in sterile water and a little packet that comes

with it, stand over the sink and spray it up there. I have four kids,

the three oldest(12,10,8) can all do it fine, and on their own. My

youngest(6) cant yet but thats bc he cant figure out how to breathe

thru his mouth, so he gets it going down his throat. We're working on

it, though. Its quite cheap, and easy, and it works REALLY WELL. My

oldest daughter has huge sinus problems, for yrs, she hasnt been able

to sleep laying down bc her nose gets so stuffy and she is very prone

to sinus infections. She loves doing the sinus rinses, it really

helps. Cant hurt to try, right?

valarie

In , " Deska " <deska66@...> wrote:

>

> Barbie --

>

> They haven't really mentioned anything as far treatment except for the

> amoxicillin for my youngest son. Yesterday at the GI Dr, even he said

> something about the lymph nodes in his neck still being swollen. And

> he's had a low grade fever for a week now, and I call the ped and they

> tell me to call the immuno and then they tell me to call the ped, I

> feel like I'm getting the runaround. What do you guys do about that?

>

> And like his hearing issues, he still has the last set of tubes, do

> hearing problems go along with this or is it just b/c they have more

> ear infections and it's just a result of?

>

> Deska

>

>

>

> > > I joined this group thinking it was supposed to be for

> > support. I have

> > > posted a few times and gotten no reply. I realize that my kids

aren't

> > > as sick as some of the others, but none the less, do have similar

> > things.

> > > We have had difficulties with stuff their whole lives, and it

has been

> > > frustrating trying to get the Dr's here in GA to listen to our

> > > concerns. No one would test them, even after me asking them to, for

> > > any kind of immune deficiency. I have asked them a few times

over the

> > > years and they never would. So once we got our diagnosis last month,

> > > and I found this group, I thought it would be a good release.

And then

> > > when I never get any replies, it is just discouraging. Like I

said, I

> > > know my kids aren't as sick as some of your kids are, but they

do have

> > > a PID, and it is all new and scary for us still. It seems that not

> > > many people in GA even know about this, and we are the first in our

> > > school to have this. I am having to walk the school system through

> > > everything and school them about it all. My kids have missed a

lot of

> > > school, my 6yr old 31 days, my 10 yr old 20 days, and we are

trying to

> > > get 504's.

> > >

> > > If you guys don't think I need to be a part of your group, then I

> > > understand, but can you direct me to another board? I do need a

> > > support group where I can vent and talk and learn about this

stuff. I

> > > have questions and concerns and fears like everyone else with a new

> > > diagnosis does. Through all of our stuff, tracheomalacia, heart

> > > murmur, reflux, recurrent croup that is now asthma, recurrent ear

> > > infections, etc I have had to learn about stuff and cope, and I just

> > > need a place where I can find some support.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > When everything seems to be going against you, remember the airplane

> > takes off against the wind, not with it.

> > > --Henry Ford

> > >

> > > ------------ --------- --------- ---

> > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile.

> > Try it now.

> > >

> > >

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