Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Can you take Tylenol 3 while using LDN? I thought anything with codeine wouldn't work with the LDN. I am having an operation in September and my doctor said to get off of the LDN 1 week prior to get it out of my system because they would us morphine on my after surgery and LDN would block it from working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2004 Report Share Posted July 2, 2004 Hi Tom - sounds like in general you are doing better. I am happy for you. Just stoping all the other meds has got to be a good thing. I think it is odd that the LDN is not helping your fatigue - don't have any suggestions for you because LDN solved that problem for me. Hopefully with time, it will help you there too. Thanks for the update. Reading how other people are doing on LDN is helpful, well at least for me. Cinders in So. Cal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 > If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. Fatigue remains a problem for me as well. I am injecting Methylcobalamine(B12) which seems to help. Still trying to get the frequency of injections right (need to also take Zinc). Lately I have also been using B12 under the tongue (a pill bitten up) several times a day. The combination seems to be best. I get my injectible B12 from 's in Toronto. I have also been monitoring my blood pressure which is somewhat low. Never paid attention to it before MS (always just told it was fine) but am doing chelation for Mercury and they always check pre and post. My upper range is about 115/72 with my lowest recorded 80/52. Obviously I feel " fatigued " when it bottoms out. I have cut back on lots of what I have been taking to see if anything is lowering my blood pressure. I suspect Lipitor may be the problem as I stoppped it, and started it again shortly before my lst MS attack. I do have high cholesterol but I am very concerned about the side effects of statins. Check your pressure regularlry for a while. Do you take a statin or anti-viral? Best Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 In a message dated 7/2/2004 5:25:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tomhfl@... writes: Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. Tom You had a lot of improvements that I didn't, but the fatigue for a couple of months was horrible. I was sleeping days away. It seems like the last 2-3 weeks, I am no longer 'fatigued' all the time. There is the occasional day I need a couple extra hours sleep, but the majority of the time, I'm up all day till bedtime. I'm on day 87 and it was a gradual improvment. Maybe it will just require more time. Arlene Michigan USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 I heard that the more raw food that you eat the less fatigue that you have. Good Luck Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Hi Folks, Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. TIA Tom in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Unless with that raw food you pick up salmonella... ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Deady low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN I heard that the more raw food that you eat the less fatigue that you have. Good Luck Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Hi Folks, Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. TIA Tom in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 When I read that post about raw food, I thought that they meant fruits and veggies. Am I wrong? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Unless with that raw food you pick up salmonella... ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Deady low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN I heard that the more raw food that you eat the less fatigue that you have. Good Luck Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Hi Folks, Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. TIA Tom in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Tom - The only thing that comes to mind is WATER are you imbibing in enuf of the good H2o? I found that my energy went up almost as much as my water intake. This is hard to do as for a long time I cut back on my water so as not too make too many trips to the loo. Reg. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 07/02/04 15:25:06 low dose naltrexone Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Hi Folks, Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. TIA Tom in Edmonton ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 You are correct; fruits, veggies, nuts. All of which can be contaminated by salmonella and other organisms. It is not likely, although there is a recall going on right now for raw almonds suspected of salmonella contamination. But it is important to be very careful that the raw foods you eat are properly cleaned to further reduce any chance of illness. The practice of using manures as fertilizer is absolutely great, but can also increase the chances of contamination. Don't quit eating your salads and other raw foods; just wash well. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Deady low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN When I read that post about raw food, I thought that they meant fruits and veggies. Am I wrong? Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Unless with that raw food you pick up salmonella... ----- Original Message ----- From: Marie Deady low dose naltrexone Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 6:15 AM Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN I heard that the more raw food that you eat the less fatigue that you have. Good Luck Marie ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom low dose naltrexone Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Hi Folks, Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. TIA Tom in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 Hi Tom, The Ativan you take could be a factor in causing your fatigue. How much do you take and when do you take it? I'm serious about this. You might want to talk to your MD about very gradually reducing the amount you're taking if, in fact, you might be taking too much. This is just a thought. Not medical advice. Good luck, ldnyes > Hi Folks, > > Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to someone. > > I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and 4.5 since then. > > Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the last three weeks with no negative results. > > I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. > > Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. > > All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. > > The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes back a little if I am overtired. > > I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer periods than before. > > Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. > > Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it or not. Aquasizing is a great help. > > Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am also looking at BVT. > > If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue factor, I would sure like to know about them. > > TIA > > Tom in Edmonton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 I have used Tylenol 3 and it worked well. I think the codiene wasn't necessary as The LDN still did it,s job and pain management was good on T-3. The naltrexone leaves our bodys really very fast and that may be why the Tylenol still worked cause I was taking it in the afternoon and the ldn in the evening. Now it is just my thought but I believe that at no time did I have both of them in my system at the same time. I remember reading where we take a low dose in a fast release form cause it has to go to work and then leave our systems quickly. I know when the LDN. isn't working, believe me.Tylenol hasn't affected that. Has the ldn affected the codiene not that I can say. So then would this small amount of naltrexone affect the morphine? I wish I had some here to try then I would get back to you. Reg. -------Original Message------- From: low dose naltrexone Date: 07/02/04 16:32:40 low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Day 50 LDN Can you take Tylenol 3 while using LDN? I thought anything with codeine wouldn't work with the LDN. I am having an operation in September and my doctor said to get off of the LDN 1 week prior to get it out of my system because they would us morphine on my after surgery and LDN would block it from working. ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 3, 2004 Report Share Posted July 3, 2004 I agree. Also, of the SSRIs, Paxil is the most sedating (more so than Prozac and Zoloft). Might be good to see if a reduction or switch is indicated. Best, ----- Original Message ----- From: " ldnyes " <ldnyes@...> <low dose naltrexone > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2004 10:16 AM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Day 50 LDN > Hi Tom, > > The Ativan you take could be a factor in causing your fatigue. How > much do you take and when do you take it? I'm serious about this. > You might want to talk to your MD about very gradually reducing the > amount you're taking if, in fact, you might be taking too much. > > This is just a thought. Not medical advice. Good luck, ldnyes > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > Well, just a little of my experience. Hope it is helpful to > someone. > > > > I have now been on LDN for 50 days. 3.0 for about two weeks, and > 4.5 since then. > > > > Have no more pain in upper body. Have quit taking Vioxx for the > last three weeks with no negative results. > > > > I am no longer taking sleeping pills, or amphetamines. > > > > Have quit taking baclofen for last two weeks. No negative results. > > > > All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. > > > > The cloudy opaque spot on my right eye is gone; it sometimes comes > back a little if I am overtired. > > > > I have much better bladder control, and can sleep for much longer > periods than before. > > > > Bowell control is better, but I have also been eating better too. > > > > Stiffness is slightly worse at 4.5, but manageable. I can even > walk around the block now unaided, even jog a little bit, believe it > or not. Aquasizing is a great help. > > > > Main problem is fatigue - how I hate that word. I can sleep 20 - > 22 hours a day, only getting up three to four times to go to the > bathroom. I have ordered Benfo, but have not received it yet. I am > also looking at BVT. > > > > If anybody has any recommendations regarding reducing the fatigue > factor, I would sure like to know about them. > > > > TIA > > > > Tom in Edmonton > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2004 Report Share Posted July 4, 2004 All I am taking now is LDN, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3. ============= Tom, Antivan, Paxil. and the odd Tylenol 3 all cause drowsiness. You may not have the fatigue you think you're having if you can get off of these. You're getting a triple whammy of drowsiness with these 3 meds. No wonder you sleep so any hours and feel exhausted. You're staying comatosed with these 3 meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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