Re: forgery stories (was Grains Re: Pharmacy Conversions..)

December 20, 2006

while it wasn't on a security form, (but its not

required here yet either) we did have a forgery last

week. the forger wrote for " teragesic " #90. while

the handwriting was close it was definately different

than the rest of the scripts (which were

anti-depressants.) took us a while to figure out what

" teragesic " was as well. we used our online resorces

(i think it was either micromedex or facts and

comparisons) and it ended up being a trade name used

in europe and asia for buphenorphine (the opiate in

suboxone) so to double check the rx--we looked online

to see if the doctor was one of the ones who could

prescribe suboxone or buphenorphine by itself, and he

wasn't. we also tried to call the doctor, but his

office didn't have a message machine or a number where

we could page after hours.

--- Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

<rxjm2002@...> wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Most of the doctors who once wrote for grain have

> retired or died.

> metric replaced the grain, but only after the

> numbers 1,2,3,and 4 were

> used to denote the mgs or grains.

> such as in Tylenol + codiene

>

> #4 = 60 mg = 1 grain

> #3 = 30 mg = 1/2 grain

> #2 = 15 mg = 1/4 grain

> #1 = 7.5 mg = 1/8 grain

>

> It is being phased out.

>

> One reason it remains in opiates is becauase it is

> confusing to

> non-pharmacy persons, which means less chance for

> counterfeit scripts

> and also greater chance that forger will get caught.

>

> Now with the advent of Electronic scripts and also

> Security

> Prescription Forms replacing triplicates you will

> see less forgeries.

> But old habits die hard.

>

> Any one ahve any security prescription forgery

> stories???

>

> Respectfully,

> Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

> Founder/Owner

>

> > > > In a message dated 11/10/2006 9:17:05 P.M.

> Central Standard

> > Time,

> > > > pianoman330@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > First off, I'd like to thank you guys for

> helping me with my

> > previous

> > > > question in regards to the Metrics. It

> resolved a lot of my

> > issues.

> > > > However, there is still one that lyes. I'm

> not certain if

> > there is a

> > > > memorization method or formula, but I'm

> having the hardest

> > time

> > > > converting Grains. One particular site was

> very helpful,

> > however I saw

> > > > no pattern as far as remembering it. I get

> completely

> > confused when I

> > > > see for example:

> > > >

> > > > Order Reads: Nitroglycerine gr 1/150 sl prn

> for angina

> > > > Nitroglycerine 0.4 mg tablets

> > > > How many tablets are needed?

> > > >

> > > > I am aware that 1 gr is around the

> equivalence of 60 mg.

> > However, I

> > > > can't put two and two together. Is there a

> formula for this

> > type of

> > > > conversion or is it just simply cross

> multiplying. Any help

> > would be

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Merritt

> > > >

> > > > 1 / 150 = .006 gr x 60 = .36 mg answer 1

> tablet of 0.4mg

> > > > 1/ 150 = .006 gr x 65 = .39 mg same answer

> and it looks like

> > they

> > > were using

> > > > 65 since 0.39 and 0.4 are about the same

> when you round up.

> > > > Remember that a gr can be EITHER 60 or 65

> mg. I have seen

> > questions

> > > that are

> > > > worked with one or the other.

> > > >

> > > > Am I wrong on this? I hope not since I test

> in ONE WEEK

> > > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG.

> > > >

> > > > _www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop_

> > > (http://www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop)

> > > > for all your pharmacy gift giving needs. New

> holiday section

> > added.

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

>

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December 20, 2006

I am removed from the dispensing but I did not realize that ibuphenorphine was

still on the market!

Jeanetta

karin h <hockeykatbird_27@...> wrote:

while it wasn't on a security form, (but its not

required here yet either) we did have a forgery last

week. the forger wrote for " teragesic " #90. while

the handwriting was close it was definately different

than the rest of the scripts (which were

anti-depressants.) took us a while to figure out what

" teragesic " was as well. we used our online resorces

(i think it was either micromedex or facts and

comparisons) and it ended up being a trade name used

in europe and asia for buphenorphine (the opiate in

suboxone) so to double check the rx--we looked online

to see if the doctor was one of the ones who could

prescribe suboxone or buphenorphine by itself, and he

wasn't. we also tried to call the doctor, but his

office didn't have a message machine or a number where

we could page after hours.

--- Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

<rxjm2002@...> wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Most of the doctors who once wrote for grain have

> retired or died.

> metric replaced the grain, but only after the

> numbers 1,2,3,and 4 were

> used to denote the mgs or grains.

> such as in Tylenol + codiene

>

> #4 = 60 mg = 1 grain

> #3 = 30 mg = 1/2 grain

> #2 = 15 mg = 1/4 grain

> #1 = 7.5 mg = 1/8 grain

>

> It is being phased out.

>

> One reason it remains in opiates is becauase it is

> confusing to

> non-pharmacy persons, which means less chance for

> counterfeit scripts

> and also greater chance that forger will get caught.

>

> Now with the advent of Electronic scripts and also

> Security

> Prescription Forms replacing triplicates you will

> see less forgeries.

> But old habits die hard.

>

> Any one ahve any security prescription forgery

> stories???

>

> Respectfully,

> Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

> Founder/Owner

>

> > > > In a message dated 11/10/2006 9:17:05 P.M.

> Central Standard

> > Time,

> > > > pianoman330@ writes:

> > > >

> > > > First off, I'd like to thank you guys for

> helping me with my

> > previous

> > > > question in regards to the Metrics. It

> resolved a lot of my

> > issues.

> > > > However, there is still one that lyes. I'm

> not certain if

> > there is a

> > > > memorization method or formula, but I'm

> having the hardest

> > time

> > > > converting Grains. One particular site was

> very helpful,

> > however I saw

> > > > no pattern as far as remembering it. I get

> completely

> > confused when I

> > > > see for example:

> > > >

> > > > Order Reads: Nitroglycerine gr 1/150 sl prn

> for angina

> > > > Nitroglycerine 0.4 mg tablets

> > > > How many tablets are needed?

> > > >

> > > > I am aware that 1 gr is around the

> equivalence of 60 mg.

> > However, I

> > > > can't put two and two together. Is there a

> formula for this

> > type of

> > > > conversion or is it just simply cross

> multiplying. Any help

> > would be

> > > > appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Merritt

> > > >

> > > > 1 / 150 = .006 gr x 60 = .36 mg answer 1

> tablet of 0.4mg

> > > > 1/ 150 = .006 gr x 65 = .39 mg same answer

> and it looks like

> > they

> > > were using

> > > > 65 since 0.39 and 0.4 are about the same

> when you round up.

> > > > Remember that a gr can be EITHER 60 or 65

> mg. I have seen

> > questions

> > > that are

> > > > worked with one or the other.

> > > >

> > > > Am I wrong on this? I hope not since I test

> in ONE WEEK

> > > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG.

> > > >

> > > > _www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop_

> > > (http://www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop)

> > > > for all your pharmacy gift giving needs. New

> holiday section

> > added.

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > >

> > >

> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> >

>

" If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be. "

- Yogi Berra

ONLY AFTER YOU'VE LOST EVERYTHING ARE YOU FREE TO DO ANYTHING

if you have the time to click on an e-mail link like this one:

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__________________________________________________

December 21, 2006

still? I thought it just came out a few years ago.

its current use is in recovery of opiate addiction.

--- Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

I am removed from the dispensing but I did not

realize that ibuphenorphine was still on the market!

Jeanetta

karin h <hockeykatbird_27@...> wrote:

while it

wasn't on a security form, (but its not required

here yet either) we did have a forgery last week.

the forger wrote for " teragesic " #90. while the

handwriting was close it was definately different

than the rest of the scripts (which were

> anti-depressants.) took us a while to figure out

> what

> " teragesic " was as well. we used our online

> resorces

> (i think it was either micromedex or facts and

> comparisons) and it ended up being a trade name

> used

> in europe and asia for buphenorphine (the opiate

> in

> suboxone) so to double check the rx--we looked

> online

> to see if the doctor was one of the ones who could

> prescribe suboxone or buphenorphine by itself, and

> he

> wasn't. we also tried to call the doctor, but his

> office didn't have a message machine or a number

> where

> we could page after hours.

> --- Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

> <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

>

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Most of the doctors who once wrote for grain

> have

> > retired or died.

> > metric replaced the grain, but only after the

> > numbers 1,2,3,and 4 were

> > used to denote the mgs or grains.

> > such as in Tylenol + codiene

> >

> > #4 = 60 mg = 1 grain

> > #3 = 30 mg = 1/2 grain

> > #2 = 15 mg = 1/4 grain

> > #1 = 7.5 mg = 1/8 grain

> >

> > It is being phased out.

> >

> > One reason it remains in opiates is becauase it

> is

> > confusing to

> > non-pharmacy persons, which means less chance

> for

> > counterfeit scripts

> > and also greater chance that forger will get

> caught.

> >

> > Now with the advent of Electronic scripts and

> also

> > Security

> > Prescription Forms replacing triplicates you

> will

> > see less forgeries.

> > But old habits die hard.

> >

> > Any one ahve any security prescription forgery

> > stories???

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS

> > Founder/Owner

> >

>

> >

> > > > > In a message dated 11/10/2006 9:17:05

> P.M.

> > Central Standard

> > > Time,

> > > > > pianoman330@ writes:

> > > > >

> > > > > First off, I'd like to thank you guys

> for

> > helping me with my

> > > previous

> > > > > question in regards to the Metrics. It

> > resolved a lot of my

> > > issues.

> > > > > However, there is still one that lyes.

> I'm

> > not certain if

> > > there is a

> > > > > memorization method or formula, but I'm

> > having the hardest

> > > time

> > > > > converting Grains. One particular site

> was

> > very helpful,

> > > however I saw

> > > > > no pattern as far as remembering it. I

> get

> > completely

> > > confused when I

> > > > > see for example:

> > > > >

> > > > > Order Reads: Nitroglycerine gr 1/150 sl

> prn

> > for angina

> > > > > Nitroglycerine 0.4 mg tablets

> > > > > How many tablets are needed?

> > > > >

> > > > > I am aware that 1 gr is around the

> > equivalence of 60 mg.

> > > However, I

> > > > > can't put two and two together. Is

> there a

> > formula for this

> > > type of

> > > > > conversion or is it just simply cross

> > multiplying. Any help

> > > would be

> > > > > appreciated.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Merritt

> > > > >

> > > > > 1 / 150 = .006 gr x 60 = .36 mg answer

> 1

> > tablet of 0.4mg

> > > > > 1/ 150 = .006 gr x 65 = .39 mg same

> answer

> > and it looks like

> > > they

> > > > were using

> > > > > 65 since 0.39 and 0.4 are about the same

> > when you round up.

> > > > > Remember that a gr can be EITHER 60 or

> 65

> > mg. I have seen

> > > questions

> > > > that are

> > > > > worked with one or the other.

> > > > >

> > > > > Am I wrong on this? I hope not since I

> test

> > in ONE WEEK

> > > > > AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG.

> > > > >

> > > > > _www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop_

> > > > (http://www.cafepress.com/pharmacyshop)

> > > > > for all your pharmacy gift giving needs.

> New

> > holiday section

> > > added.

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > removed]

> > > > >

> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have

> been

> > removed]

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

> " If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be. "

> - Yogi

> Berra

>

> ONLY AFTER YOU'VE LOST EVERYTHING ARE YOU FREE TO

> DO ANYTHING

>

> if you have the time to click on an e-mail link

> like this one:

> http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/ID/2425657

> you really can earn some extra cash!

>

> __________________________________________________

>

December 22, 2006

yes, suboxone is oral. suboxone is buphenorphine/

naloxone.

--- Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

Dear Karin,

Suboxone (trade) may have come on the market a few

years ago. I am not familiar with that name. But the

generic name 'buphenorphine' looks way too familiar. I

thought this had been on the trade/generic test at the

school I teach at when I first got there in 1999 and I

took it off the test because it was hardly used and at

that time I needed to update with more fast movers on

the test.

BUT NOW I looked up what I am thinking of and the

CORRECT spelling in my 2002 hardback Facts and

> Comparison's says:

> buprenorhine hcl is Buprenex Class V, the spelling

> is similar to what you spelled yet different. The

> 'h' in the way you spell the drug you refer to is an

> 'r' in the drug that I refer to.

>

> I am starring at the correct spelling in my F/C

> of the drug I am thinking of . This drug is a

> centrally acting analgesic derrived from thebaine

> and is a synthetic opioid analgesic (fits in the mu

> receptor).

>

> This drug was on the market when I was still teching

> back in l995 (been teaching since then). It comes

> in an ampule for injection. I am wondering if the

> suboxone is oral tab?

>

> Curiously,

> Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chem

> Founder/Owner

> PS for those folowing this thread: I mis-typed the

> word in my last post with an 'i' before it. that was

> a mistake a typo.

>

> karin h <hockeykatbird_27@...> wrote:

> still? I thought it just

> came out a few years ago.

> its current use is in recovery of opiate addiction.

>

> --- Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

>

> I am removed from the dispensing but I did not

> realize that buphenorphine was still on the market!

> Jeanetta

>

> karin h <hockeykatbird_27@...> wrote:

>

> while it

> wasn't on a security form, (but its not required

> here yet either) we did have a forgery last week.

>

> the forger wrote for " teragesic " #90. while the

> handwriting was close it was definately different

> than the rest of the scripts (which were

> > anti-depressants.) took us a while to figure

> out

> > what

> > " teragesic " was as well. we used our online

> > resorces

> > (i think it was either micromedex or facts and

> > comparisons) and it ended up being a trade

> name

> > used

> > in europe and asia for buphenorphine (the

> opiate

> > in

> > suboxone) so to double check the rx--we looked

> > online

> > to see if the doctor was one of the ones who

> could

> > prescribe suboxone or buphenorphine by itself,

> and

> > he

> > wasn't. we also tried to call the doctor, but

> his

> > office didn't have a message machine or a

> number

> > where

> > we could page after hours.

> > --- Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry

> > <rxjm2002@...> wrote:

> >

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

" If the world were perfect, it wouldn't be. "

- Yogi Berra

ONLY AFTER YOU'VE LOST EVERYTHING ARE YOU FREE TO DO ANYTHING

if you have the time to click on an e-mail link like this one:

http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/ID/2425657

you really can earn some extra cash!

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