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Hey ,

I'm sorry to hear about your kidney infection ordeal at REX last night, do they

know what caused it? (you looked great on Saturday!)

BTW, thanks for having us over, it is so nice to 'hang' out with you and Lori,

and Donna at your pool!

I do hope everything will go as planned for you this Friday, maybe we can come

and visit you at REX, if you will be feeling up to having 'roudy' MGBers come

visit!!

{{lots of hugs & kisses}}

S.

> wrote:

> Hi Donna,

I'm just wondering how you are doing...I was hoping to see you and your scars

at the support meeting on Saturday. My tummy tuck and thighs are scheduled

for Friday and I spent 7 hours in the ER last night with a kidney infection

and stones. I'm thankful that was all....I was sorta worried after reading of

Rosemary's ordeal last week. My pre-testing is today at the same hospital

(Rex) and I'm hoping they will not cancel due to the fact that they gave me 4

different prescriptions. I really never for once connected this with the MGB,

but man when it rains it pours. I was in so much pain at one point I thought

of not coming back Friday (lol), but now I'm hoping they don't cancel.

Please let me know how you are doing.

Hey Lori, I was hoping you would call me when you got to NY to let me know

you arrived safely. I must have got home a few minutes after you left Sunday

morning....I was hoping to catch you. Let me hear from you!!

in Raleigh

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is the rowdy one, not me!!!!!!

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Hey ,

I'm sorry to hear about your kidney infection ordeal at REX last night, do

they know what caused it? (you looked great on Saturday!)

BTW, thanks for having us over, it is so nice to 'hang' out with you and

Lori, and Donna at your pool!

I do hope everything will go as planned for you this Friday, maybe we can

come and visit you at REX, if you will be feeling up to having 'roudy'

MGBers come visit!!

{{lots of hugs & kisses}}

S.

> wrote:

> Hi Donna,

I'm just wondering how you are doing...I was hoping to see you and your

scars

at the support meeting on Saturday. My tummy tuck and thighs are scheduled

for Friday and I spent 7 hours in the ER last night with a kidney infection

and stones. I'm thankful that was all....I was sorta worried after reading

of

Rosemary's ordeal last week. My pre-testing is today at the same hospital

(Rex) and I'm hoping they will not cancel due to the fact that they gave me

4

different prescriptions. I really never for once connected this with the

MGB,

but man when it rains it pours. I was in so much pain at one point I thought

of not coming back Friday (lol), but now I'm hoping they don't cancel.

Please let me know how you are doing.

Hey Lori, I was hoping you would call me when you got to NY to let me know

you arrived safely. I must have got home a few minutes after you left Sunday

morning....I was hoping to catch you. Let me hear from you!!

in Raleigh

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Hi , , Lori and Donna K,

I just talked to my surgeon and they said no problem with my meds and the

surgery Friday as long as I continue to recover. I am in very little pain now

compared to yesterday. The CAT scan did not show any more kidney stones but

showed one in my appendix...how weird. They said I may or may not ever have

any problems with it. I am just grateful that I can continue with plans for

Friday's surgery after taking the next 6 weeks off of work! I think I will be

at Rex for 2-3 days.

I had a great time too Sat. . I got my last day of partying in before

the dreadful meds so it's gonna be a long week and even longer the few

afterwards.Thanks for coming by and we definitely have to do it again. I'm

missing a bra and underwear that were laying on my bathroom

counter....Donna???? (First time that's happened when I've only been around a

bunch of women!!) LMAO Damn panty thieves! LOL

Donna I also have your little girls swimsuit and towels so write me back

privately sweetie.

in Raleigh

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Hi ,

Feel free to drop by anytime if you'd like the swimsuit. Please don't feel

like you need to come by the hospital...but I'd love to see ya!

Hey, you and come spend some time by the pool in a couple weeks...I'm

home the next 6-8 weeks!

in Raleigh

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, and I will definitely come see you this weekend. Also, I'll

bet that Lori Honor stole that bra and panties now that her boobs are so

damned perfect. Also, I left that black bathing suit there!! darn!

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Hi , , Lori and Donna K,

I just talked to my surgeon and they said no problem with my meds and the

surgery Friday as long as I continue to recover. I am in very little pain

now

compared to yesterday. The CAT scan did not show any more kidney stones but

showed one in my appendix...how weird. They said I may or may not ever have

any problems with it. I am just grateful that I can continue with plans for

Friday's surgery after taking the next 6 weeks off of work! I think I will

be

at Rex for 2-3 days.

I had a great time too Sat. . I got my last day of partying in before

the dreadful meds so it's gonna be a long week and even longer the few

afterwards.Thanks for coming by and we definitely have to do it again. I'm

missing a bra and underwear that were laying on my bathroom

counter....Donna???? (First time that's happened when I've only been around

a

bunch of women!!) LMAO Damn panty thieves! LOL

Donna I also have your little girls swimsuit and towels so write me back

privately sweetie.

in Raleigh

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Hey girl,

sorry that I did't get to go out with the group sat night. I didn't get home

until 12:30am. When are you all getting together next time. Let me know and I

will be there. If you need anything after the surgery let me know and I will be

there for you.

Love ya

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heck yeah, I'll make us some good Italian for dinner, just let me know what

you like and I'll make enough to leave a bunch for you and your cute son.

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Hi ,

Feel free to drop by anytime if you'd like the swimsuit. Please don't feel

like you need to come by the hospital...but I'd love to see ya!

Hey, you and come spend some time by the pool in a couple weeks...I'm

home the next 6-8 weeks!

in Raleigh

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Hey !

How you doin' girl?? We missed you Friday at 's, said you went to

the beach? We should hook up and go visit at Rex hospital this Friday or

Saturday after her 'tummy' surgery. Can you send me your number, so I can call

you? (My number is 847-3536). I'd love to see you again girlfriend!

{{hugs}}

S.

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> Hey girl,

sorry that I did't get to go out with the group sat night. I didn't get home

until 12:30am. When are you all getting together next time. Let me know and I

will be there. If you need anything after the surgery let me know and I will be

there for you.

Love ya

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,

I will be at the beach again the weekend. However, I would love to go and

visit her sometime in the up coming week. My number is 875-4492 or 271-8410

Talk to you soon,

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Hey !

It sounds like you are doing just wonderfully!!! I meant to call you sooner,

but I had to go out of town this past week and got behind on everything!

I am so happy to hear you are doing so well!! A junior size 5!!! Holy

cow....you can't get much better than that!!!! You go girl!

I talked with Barbara at Dr. R's office about a revision and she said he is only

doing seriously needed revisions, like in the case of . It sounds like

until he gets the peer review approval he won't be doing any surgeries. So

we'll just have to wait I guess.

We've got to get together real soon sweetie!

{{hugs}}

S.

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> Hi Liz!!

Yes, I just had a tummy tuck and a thigh lift. And yes, BOTH were covered by

my insurance. I've heard of many insurance companies covering the tummy but

to my knowledge I don't know of any covering the thigh lift.

Yes, my doctor did take pictures (he showed them to me yesterday when I went

in for my appt) but he didn't send them to the insurance co. He just sent in

a request for it to be covered and stated that I had had infections, etc.

This was bending the truth a bit as I had never had any infections or

problems and did not have big apron. It was actually just loose skin but not

real bad. Only my belly button was occasionally itchy. Partners agreed to

cover the tummy but not the thighs at first. I ask Dr. Lambeth to call them

personally to see if they would agree to at least cover the OR and

anesthesia, etc. and I would pay out of pocket to him, the surgeon for the

thighs.

I don't know what the heck he told them but his nurse called me back and said

Partners agreed to cover it all. I couldn't believe it but I sure wasn't

gonna question it!

I got back in to my Jr. size 5 levi's last night when I went out on the town,

so alot of my swelling has diminished now. My leg is doing better and I fell

human again, after only 3 weeks today. I really had no problems from the

tummy tuck at all....not an incredible amount of pain either...about like a

c-section. I only took pain pills for 2 days after getting out of the

hospital, and those 2 days were a week later. I think I was doing too much

but I started hurting where the drain was taken out of my belly.

Maybe I'll get really brave and post some pictures of the surgery scars this

week, just to show how it looks. Please feel free to ask any questions you

may have Liz. I be happy to answer if I can.... Good luck to you getting

approved!!

in Raleigh

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In a message dated 7/28/01 3:09:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

sh@... writes:

> We've got to get together real soon sweetie!

>

> {{hugs}}

> S.

> MGB=5/26/00

>

>

Hi ,

Thanks just for thinking of me...I really know how it is, with our everyday

hectic lives and just being so busy. I still have a few more weeks off work

so let me know if you get a day to just come chill by the pool. Maybe we can

all get together for dinner some evening too!! Look forward to seeing you

sweetie,

in Raleigh

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I am ready when you guys are!!!!!

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Hi ,

Missed seeing you too gal! We've got to get you, Lori and together

and go out on the town!

How's work, after that long 'vacation', I'm guessing it was difficult to get

back into the swing of things huh?

Hope to see you soon sweetie, maybe this month's support group?

{{hugs & kisses}}

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> Hey there . I'm glad you posted...I've been wondering where you were

at

Saturday and I was worried. I surely did miss ya gal!!

in Raleigh

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Hi ,

Missed seeing you too gal! We've got to get you, Lori and together and go

out on the town!

How's work, after that long 'vacation', I'm guessing it was difficult to get

back into the swing of things huh?

Hope to see you soon sweetie, maybe this month's support group?

{{hugs & kisses}}

wrote:

> Hey there . I'm glad you posted...I've been wondering where you were at

Saturday and I was worried. I surely did miss ya gal!!

in Raleigh

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I just got wieghed....I lost 14 pounds in 12 days....how cool is that?!?!

I know it's cause I'm still new and will have to wait till I get a fill to

really start losing but I'm really jazzed.

:)

Sturgis,

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> I just got wieghed....I lost 14 pounds in 12 days....how cool is

that?!?!

>

- Way to go! Stay on those liquids, give that tummy time to hear

and you will keep losing. Hope we see you at the next southend

meeting.

Elma

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Thanks ! I will be weighing again this weekend....hopefully I will

keep going down! Around this time of year though....maybe loosing will have

to wait till after the holidays! We'll see.

>I have actually lost 3 lbs already

Very cool :o) !

Cathrine.

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Thanks I needed to hear your story also. I will be 7 1/2 months and I have

lost 58 lbs. sometimes I wonder if I will make my 100 lbs in one year. But if

I don't that is okay too. From 28 to a size 18 that's not too bad.

donna pinto

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Whoa!!! FLO!!!!

How ya doing lady? How in the world is your sister? And what part of the

country are you living in the present time? And when are you coming to Raleigh?

So many questions!!

Please set up something with and lets get together!! I would love to

see everyone!

in Raleigh

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Thank you so much :-)

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Kilpatrick

Sent: Sunday, 27 August 2006 6:06 AM

Subject: !

as far as I know there is no posting limit on here. If you need to talk

that's what we are here for!:)

*HUGS>

>

>

Liz Kilpatrick

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Holy cow!! I can't believe that you are the same person I saw the day after your lapband surgery laying in your bed!!! You are absolutely beautiful! You were beautiful then but what a knockout you are! Keep it up! Glad to see you back around here. Keep in touch and don't stay away so long! Jenni Currie peninsulahair <peninsulahair@...> wrote: Hello all you beautiful people!! It is good to be back to reading all of your

wonderful words of encouragement, spurring on and wisdom! It helps to "band" hee hee together through all this. because we are all going through the same thing day to do. I am going to take the advice to write down things on note cards that would go right along with my "OCD" personality!! lol :-) well I only have a few minutes. Life is so crazy busy these days I only get like 15 minutes a day (if that) to get on the puter and do all my stuff. well I will get on more this weekend. But you all have a fabulous weekend and have fun and play lots!!! :-) play good!! :-)hugs,> >> > ...> > > > I wrote this for another board a few days ago and thought it might > help.> > Someone else was having problems exactly such as you. My thoughts > only. By> > the way, the person specifically asked for me to give her a > buttkicking> > thus, the reason for the post! ;o)>

> > > >>While 52 pounds is very good and it's certainly better than > gaining, you> > are right. You can do better.> > > > I'm going to get hammered for writing this but that has never > stopped me> > before. ;o) You know these people that eat pizza and tacos a few > days after> > surgery and they come to the boards asking if they just messed up? > You know> > those people that pat them on the head, tell them it's okay, and > to "try" to> > do better tomorrow? Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I tell > them to> > knock it off, they are risking their band and why? For a lousy > taco?? Are> > they serious? I don't suggest they TRY to do better the next day, > I tell> > them to DO better right now.> > > > I think we often times don't give ourselves enough credit. We >

think we are> > weak willed and powerless over the world. That simply isn't true. > We have> > been living a life of fat for many years. You tell me the weak > willed and> > powerless can do that, I won't believe you. Being fat in today's > society is> > no easy task. It's really damned hard. Yet we survive it and if > we can> > survive that, we can survive passing up a donut. Let's face it, it > is much> > easier to pass up a donut than it is to have to buy two airlines > seats> > because our butts are too big for one seat. It's much easier to > pass up a> > single donut than it is to face ourselves in the mirror of Lane > Giant after> > realizing we are yet... a bigger size than the last time we were > there. We> > face humiliation and embarrassment every single day just due to our > size.

I> > think sometimes we tend to get used to it and forget that > humiliation and> > embarrassment are NOT normal and a part of life. We also pretend > it does> > not hurt as much as it does.> > > > I'm not trying to be a skank about this but you know, WLS is our > last shot> > at WL. This is a big deal, we have choices and too many times we > are all> > making the wrong ones. I don't eat a lot of junk because I don't > need it.> > Neither do you. I disagree with those that say ANYTHING in > moderation is> > okay. The reason I disagree is because ALL of us did not get fat > because we> > can do moderation well. With a band or any WLS our caloric intake > is cut> > drastically and we need every calorie for food we actually need and > use.> > The only thing cake, pasta, or crap food will

do for your body is > make it> > more plump.> > > > This is a lifestyle change and a lifestyle change does not mean > eating the> > same load of crap but just less of it, that means overhauling your > diet and> > eating food that your body needs and does something positive for > it. What> > "value" does Chocolate cake have for your body?> > > > So does this mean that you can never have a piece of birthday cake > again?> > Of course not. It means that eating junk on a regular basis serves > no> > value. We don't know what moderation is so we have to go searching > for it.> > Moderation does not mean limiting ourselves to crap food just one > time daily> > or one time weekly, it means more along the lines of on birthdays, > special> > occasions. When we "plan" on

eating junk weekly, what does that > make our> > thinking? That means we are *still* planning our lives around food > and poor> > choices. Thin people don't set out to plan on when they will eat a > load of> > crap, they don't even think about it until the birthday party or > social> > meeting is there staring them in the face. Yet we fatties actually > plan a> > date and time to eat bad food. See the difference in thinking > between a fat> > person and a normal size person?> > > > The lifestyle change is not planning on WHEN we will have loads of > crap> > food, lifestyle change means actually going out there and living > what we> > claim we want. Life as a normal size person.> > > > If you can face the humiliation of being obese in society, can you > honestly> >

sit there and tell yourself that passing up junk food is harder > than being> > the fat girl walking into a room where being MO is socially > unacceptable? I> > mean, I think there comes a time when we have to put things in > their proper> > perspective and this is one of those times. Next time you want > junk food> > get real and get honest with yourself. Get a photo of that food > item and a> > photo of a person that is the size you want to be. Which do you > want more,> > do you want the cake more than you want to be thin and healthy? Be > verrry> > honest with yourself. If you prefer the cake over thin then just > go for it> > and have the darn band removed. But I'll bet you'd rather have > thin over a> > piece of cake when you really get honest with yourself. It's all > about> > perspective and

self awareness of what you want out of this life. > We have a> > choice, and it IS a choice. We can be fat or we can be thin. With > a band> > thin IS within grasp.> > > > The thing about us fat folks is that traditional diet and exercise > is too> > hard, we just can't do it. We cannot lose and maintain at a normal > size> > weight. Call it a lack of self control, call it anything you > want. I'll> > cop to it, I'll be one to stand right up there and admit that I > can't do> > it. But with a band it is still hard but it is the kind of hard WE > can do,> > OUR population. Losing weight with a band is the kind of hard we > can do but> > without a band, nope... we can't do it.> > > > Sometimes, maybe often times, maybe 20x a day when we are > justifying more> >

grazing behaviors and opening the frig to see what unnecessary food > is in> > there, there comes a time when you just have to tell yourself no. > We tell> > our children "no" daily. No, you can't play with razor blades in > the middle> > of a busy street. No, you can't eat rat poison. No, you can't > fail to look> > both ways when crossing a street. No, you can't do drugs. No, you > can't go> > out with that drug abuser who just got out of juvvy. Sometimes we > have to> > tell ourselves no as well.> > > > If you are like me, not sure you are, but if you are like me I > can't stop at> > one Frito, or one bite of this or that. For me it is all or none. > If I eat> > white carbs I can't quit. I lose self control. If I stay away > from them> > completely I have no problem. The more I

eat the more I crave. I > am a> > person that wanted bread so bad about 3 months after banding I > actually> > broke into the bread crumbs I use for cooking and ate the whole > can. Then I> > started in on dry stuffing mix. It wasn't even something that > tasted good> > (pretty rank, actually) but I couldn't stand the carb cravings > anymore.> > That was my moment when I realized when and how I lose self > control. So I> > avoid those situations.> > > > You can come over to my house right now and look through my house. > You> > won't find any flour, pasta, bread, Fritos, or other foods that are > my> > triggers. There are no bread crumbs, stuffing mix, cake mixes, > cookie> > mixes... none of it. I don't even keep it in the house. There is > not a> > person that has ever

once been in my home that even needs those > foods. My> > husband doesn't need them and he doesn't get them if he is here. > Why would> > your family NEED cakes, cookies, etc? We are not punishing our > family> > members by denying them food habits WE have, it really is okay if > you don't> > load your cupboards full of crap your kids do not need. I think > that is> > another mindset we have to change. I've seen people post on these > very> > boards that they can't pass up the cookies in the cupboard but they > can't> > punish their children by not having cookies in the house. Since > when it is> > a punishment to decline to feed a growing child cookies to the > point you> > can't have a day without them in your home?> > > > Exercise... you know, we have physical and emotional reasons

for> > overeating. Those issues we have to overcome and find ways to deal > with> > them. But exercise? Nahhh, we have no excuse. That is just plain > lazy> > behavior. You don't like exercise? Neither do I. But it's like > cleaning> > the toilet. Who DOES like to do it? We do it because we have to. > It's> > just a responsibility. We are all great at justifying eating too > much and> > not exercising but the reality comes down to sheer lazy behaviors. > If you> > can't run then power walk. If you can't power walk then walk. If > you can't> > walk then do chair exercises. We have the energy to get up and run > to the> > frig 20 times a day yet we can't find the time nor the motivation > to do the> > SAME walking outside and away from food. How does that work? ;o)> > > >

There are people who LOVE exercise, zog bless their little hearts! > It's> > like a transfer addiction. They go from eating to exercising. > They love> > it. Personally, I think they are sick and twisted human > beings. ;o) I> > exercise but I hate it. Never have enjoyed it, not even a little. > The> > person who invented weight resistance cannot possibly be anything > but a> > lover of S & M. They should be shot. But you know what? It really > really> > works. The motivation for me was not busting my butt on a > treadmill when I> > would have much preferred doing my nails. The motivation was that > the more> > I exercised the more weight I lost. THAT was my addiction, losing > weight> > and getting thin. The more you lose the more motivation you get.> > > > What if you do this,

just for ONE week... one week only. Cut out > ALL white> > carbs. Yep, you'll be climbing the walls, you'll be dealing with > head> > hunger full force. Every single TV commercial for food will be > calling your> > name. You'll cus and swear at me and everyone else that is around > you in> > real time or the boards. Start exercising. Even ten minutes of > brisk> > walking. Work up a sweat, bust your butt. Just 10 minutes. That's> > nothing, that is the same as a couple of TV commercials. That is > about the> > same amount of time to read a single thread on OH. Just take 10 > simple> > minutes and go out for a hard walk. Then you are done exercising > for the> > day. Honestly, 10 minutes is NOTHING. We have 144 10 minute > blocks in a> > day, it really is nothing.> > > > Then tomorrow

do 11 minutes. And yes, time it from the time your > walk is a> > brisk one, not when you start thinking it's time to go outside for > your> > walk. When your pace is up to brisk then start timing. Daily add > a single> > minute to it. Push yourself to do better each day, just a single > minute> > added.> > > > So for a week eat what you want, don't count calories, don't count > fat> > grams. Don't worry about calories in the least. Eat what you want > but do> > limit WHITE carbs to 20 a day. I'm just talking for a week. Do > the 10> > minutes of exercise while adding one minute daily. See what that > does for> > you. You want 20 chicken breasts? Eat them. You want zucchini, > yellow> > squash, any other carbs except fruit? Eat them. Lots of them. > Don't even> > count

carbs from veggies. Just count white carbs and limit those> > drastically to 20gms daily. The idea here is not to get you into > ketosis,> > the idea is to get you eating the right carbs. Have unlimited > VEGGIE> > carbs. You'll poop like a champ too. ;o)> > > > I'll bet you that you lose weight.> > > > Then as the motivation kicks in and the stomach hunger dies down > you will be> > able to cut those 20 chicken breasts down to 10. Then 5, then 1 > daily.> > Understand what is head hunger and what is true stomach hunger. > Just focus> > on white carbs and minimal exercise. I'll bet you it works.> > > > If you can live the life and frustration as a fat person, you can > do this.> > Being fat is MUCH harder than better food choices. Again, it's all> > perspective.> > > >

What about your fill level? Are you at good restricton? If not, > get thy> > butt to the doc and take care of it.> > > > There, that's yer' butt kicking. ;o) Just remember, you CAN do > this, you> > have survived much much harder as a fat person and you have > survived a life> > that is no walk in the park. If you can survive fat life you can > easily> > survive the above plan for the next week.> > > > And BTW, this means start the whole plan tomorrow, not on Sunday at > the> > beginning of the week. If you have already eaten a load of carbs > today you> > will be hungry for the rest of the day. It's a blood sugar thing. > So start> > tomorrow and keep remembering, you can do this.> > > > Good luck to you!<<>

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I have to agree, you look awesome ! You are more beautiful

everytime I see you! Keep up the postings and keep on losin. How much

have you lost? " You look fabulous darling! "

Hugs,

SHelly del Bosque

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> > > I wrote this for another board a few days ago and thought it

> might

> > help.

> > > Someone else was having problems exactly such as you. My

> thoughts

> > only. By

> > > the way, the person specifically asked for me to give her a

> > buttkicking

> > > thus, the reason for the post! ;o)

> > >

> > > >>While 52 pounds is very good and it's certainly better than

> > gaining, you

> > > are right. You can do better.

> > >

> > > I'm going to get hammered for writing this but that has never

> > stopped me

> > > before. ;o) You know these people that eat pizza and tacos a

few

> > days after

> > > surgery and they come to the boards asking if they just messed

> up?

> > You know

> > > those people that pat them on the head, tell them it's okay,

and

> > to " try " to

> > > do better tomorrow? Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I tell

> > them to

> > > knock it off, they are risking their band and why? For a lousy

> > taco?? Are

> > > they serious? I don't suggest they TRY to do better the next

> day,

> > I tell

> > > them to DO better right now.

> > >

> > > I think we often times don't give ourselves enough credit. We

> > think we are

> > > weak willed and powerless over the world. That simply isn't

> true.

> > We have

> > > been living a life of fat for many years. You tell me the weak

> > willed and

> > > powerless can do that, I won't believe you. Being fat in

today's

> > society is

> > > no easy task. It's really damned hard. Yet we survive it and if

> > we can

> > > survive that, we can survive passing up a donut. Let's face it,

> it

> > is much

> > > easier to pass up a donut than it is to have to buy two

airlines

> > seats

> > > because our butts are too big for one seat. It's much easier to

> > pass up a

> > > single donut than it is to face ourselves in the mirror of Lane

> > Giant after

> > > realizing we are yet... a bigger size than the last time we

were

> > there. We

> > > face humiliation and embarrassment every single day just due to

> our

> > size. I

> > > think sometimes we tend to get used to it and forget that

> > humiliation and

> > > embarrassment are NOT normal and a part of life. We also

pretend

> > it does

> > > not hurt as much as it does.

> > >

> > > I'm not trying to be a skank about this but you know, WLS is

our

> > last shot

> > > at WL. This is a big deal, we have choices and too many times

we

> > are all

> > > making the wrong ones. I don't eat a lot of junk because I

don't

> > need it.

> > > Neither do you. I disagree with those that say ANYTHING in

> > moderation is

> > > okay. The reason I disagree is because ALL of us did not get

fat

> > because we

> > > can do moderation well. With a band or any WLS our caloric

> intake

> > is cut

> > > drastically and we need every calorie for food we actually need

> and

> > use.

> > > The only thing cake, pasta, or crap food will do for your body

is

> > make it

> > > more plump.

> > >

> > > This is a lifestyle change and a lifestyle change does not mean

> > eating the

> > > same load of crap but just less of it, that means overhauling

> your

> > diet and

> > > eating food that your body needs and does something positive

for

> > it. What

> > > " value " does Chocolate cake have for your body?

> > >

> > > So does this mean that you can never have a piece of birthday

> cake

> > again?

> > > Of course not. It means that eating junk on a regular basis

> serves

> > no

> > > value. We don't know what moderation is so we have to go

> searching

> > for it.

> > > Moderation does not mean limiting ourselves to crap food just

one

> > time daily

> > > or one time weekly, it means more along the lines of on

> birthdays,

> > special

> > > occasions. When we " plan " on eating junk weekly, what does that

> > make our

> > > thinking? That means we are *still* planning our lives around

> food

> > and poor

> > > choices. Thin people don't set out to plan on when they will

eat

> a

> > load of

> > > crap, they don't even think about it until the birthday party

or

> > social

> > > meeting is there staring them in the face. Yet we fatties

> actually

> > plan a

> > > date and time to eat bad food. See the difference in thinking

> > between a fat

> > > person and a normal size person?

> > >

> > > The lifestyle change is not planning on WHEN we will have loads

> of

> > crap

> > > food, lifestyle change means actually going out there and

living

> > what we

> > > claim we want. Life as a normal size person.

> > >

> > > If you can face the humiliation of being obese in society, can

> you

> > honestly

> > > sit there and tell yourself that passing up junk food is harder

> > than being

> > > the fat girl walking into a room where being MO is socially

> > unacceptable? I

> > > mean, I think there comes a time when we have to put things in

> > their proper

> > > perspective and this is one of those times. Next time you want

> > junk food

> > > get real and get honest with yourself. Get a photo of that food

> > item and a

> > > photo of a person that is the size you want to be. Which do you

> > want more,

> > > do you want the cake more than you want to be thin and healthy?

> Be

> > verrry

> > > honest with yourself. If you prefer the cake over thin then

just

> > go for it

> > > and have the darn band removed. But I'll bet you'd rather have

> > thin over a

> > > piece of cake when you really get honest with yourself. It's

all

> > about

> > > perspective and self awareness of what you want out of this

> life.

> > We have a

> > > choice, and it IS a choice. We can be fat or we can be thin.

> With

> > a band

> > > thin IS within grasp.

> > >

> > > The thing about us fat folks is that traditional diet and

> exercise

> > is too

> > > hard, we just can't do it. We cannot lose and maintain at a

> normal

> > size

> > > weight. Call it a lack of self control, call it anything you

> > want. I'll

> > > cop to it, I'll be one to stand right up there and admit that I

> > can't do

> > > it. But with a band it is still hard but it is the kind of hard

> WE

> > can do,

> > > OUR population. Losing weight with a band is the kind of hard

we

> > can do but

> > > without a band, nope... we can't do it.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, maybe often times, maybe 20x a day when we are

> > justifying more

> > > grazing behaviors and opening the frig to see what unnecessary

> food

> > is in

> > > there, there comes a time when you just have to tell yourself

> no.

> > We tell

> > > our children " no " daily. No, you can't play with razor blades

in

> > the middle

> > > of a busy street. No, you can't eat rat poison. No, you can't

> > fail to look

> > > both ways when crossing a street. No, you can't do drugs. No,

> you

> > can't go

> > > out with that drug abuser who just got out of juvvy. Sometimes

> we

> > have to

> > > tell ourselves no as well.

> > >

> > > If you are like me, not sure you are, but if you are like me I

> > can't stop at

> > > one Frito, or one bite of this or that. For me it is all or

> none.

> > If I eat

> > > white carbs I can't quit. I lose self control. If I stay away

> > from them

> > > completely I have no problem. The more I eat the more I crave.

> I

> > am a

> > > person that wanted bread so bad about 3 months after banding I

> > actually

> > > broke into the bread crumbs I use for cooking and ate the whole

> > can. Then I

> > > started in on dry stuffing mix. It wasn't even something that

> > tasted good

> > > (pretty rank, actually) but I couldn't stand the carb cravings

> > anymore.

> > > That was my moment when I realized when and how I lose self

> > control. So I

> > > avoid those situations.

> > >

> > > You can come over to my house right now and look through my

> house.

> > You

> > > won't find any flour, pasta, bread, Fritos, or other foods that

> are

> > my

> > > triggers. There are no bread crumbs, stuffing mix, cake mixes,

> > cookie

> > > mixes... none of it. I don't even keep it in the house. There

> is

> > not a

> > > person that has ever once been in my home that even needs those

> > foods. My

> > > husband doesn't need them and he doesn't get them if he is

here.

> > Why would

> > > your family NEED cakes, cookies, etc? We are not punishing our

> > family

> > > members by denying them food habits WE have, it really is okay

if

> > you don't

> > > load your cupboards full of crap your kids do not need. I think

> > that is

> > > another mindset we have to change. I've seen people post on

> these

> > very

> > > boards that they can't pass up the cookies in the cupboard but

> they

> > can't

> > > punish their children by not having cookies in the house. Since

> > when it is

> > > a punishment to decline to feed a growing child cookies to the

> > point you

> > > can't have a day without them in your home?

> > >

> > > Exercise... you know, we have physical and emotional reasons for

> > > overeating. Those issues we have to overcome and find ways to

> deal

> > with

> > > them. But exercise? Nahhh, we have no excuse. That is just

> plain

> > lazy

> > > behavior. You don't like exercise? Neither do I. But it's like

> > cleaning

> > > the toilet. Who DOES like to do it? We do it because we have

> to.

> > It's

> > > just a responsibility. We are all great at justifying eating

too

> > much and

> > > not exercising but the reality comes down to sheer lazy

> behaviors.

> > If you

> > > can't run then power walk. If you can't power walk then walk.

> If

> > you can't

> > > walk then do chair exercises. We have the energy to get up and

> run

> > to the

> > > frig 20 times a day yet we can't find the time nor the

motivation

> > to do the

> > > SAME walking outside and away from food. How does that work? ;o)

> > >

> > > There are people who LOVE exercise, zog bless their little

> hearts!

> > It's

> > > like a transfer addiction. They go from eating to exercising.

> > They love

> > > it. Personally, I think they are sick and twisted human

> > beings. ;o) I

> > > exercise but I hate it. Never have enjoyed it, not even a

> little.

> > The

> > > person who invented weight resistance cannot possibly be

anything

> > but a

> > > lover of S & M. They should be shot. But you know what? It

> really

> > really

> > > works. The motivation for me was not busting my butt on a

> > treadmill when I

> > > would have much preferred doing my nails. The motivation was

> that

> > the more

> > > I exercised the more weight I lost. THAT was my addiction,

> losing

> > weight

> > > and getting thin. The more you lose the more motivation you get.

> > >

> > > What if you do this, just for ONE week... one week only. Cut

out

> > ALL white

> > > carbs. Yep, you'll be climbing the walls, you'll be dealing

with

> > head

> > > hunger full force. Every single TV commercial for food will be

> > calling your

> > > name. You'll cus and swear at me and everyone else that is

> around

> > you in

> > > real time or the boards. Start exercising. Even ten minutes of

> > brisk

> > > walking. Work up a sweat, bust your butt. Just 10 minutes.

> That's

> > > nothing, that is the same as a couple of TV commercials. That

is

> > about the

> > > same amount of time to read a single thread on OH. Just take 10

> > simple

> > > minutes and go out for a hard walk. Then you are done

exercising

> > for the

> > > day. Honestly, 10 minutes is NOTHING. We have 144 10 minute

> > blocks in a

> > > day, it really is nothing.

> > >

> > > Then tomorrow do 11 minutes. And yes, time it from the time

your

> > walk is a

> > > brisk one, not when you start thinking it's time to go outside

> for

> > your

> > > walk. When your pace is up to brisk then start timing. Daily

> add

> > a single

> > > minute to it. Push yourself to do better each day, just a

single

> > minute

> > > added.

> > >

> > > So for a week eat what you want, don't count calories, don't

> count

> > fat

> > > grams. Don't worry about calories in the least. Eat what you

> want

> > but do

> > > limit WHITE carbs to 20 a day. I'm just talking for a week. Do

> > the 10

> > > minutes of exercise while adding one minute daily. See what

that

> > does for

> > > you. You want 20 chicken breasts? Eat them. You want zucchini,

> > yellow

> > > squash, any other carbs except fruit? Eat them. Lots of them.

> > Don't even

> > > count carbs from veggies. Just count white carbs and limit those

> > > drastically to 20gms daily. The idea here is not to get you

into

> > ketosis,

> > > the idea is to get you eating the right carbs. Have unlimited

> > VEGGIE

> > > carbs. You'll poop like a champ too. ;o)

> > >

> > > I'll bet you that you lose weight.

> > >

> > > Then as the motivation kicks in and the stomach hunger dies

down

> > you will be

> > > able to cut those 20 chicken breasts down to 10. Then 5, then 1

> > daily.

> > > Understand what is head hunger and what is true stomach hunger.

> > Just focus

> > > on white carbs and minimal exercise. I'll bet you it works.

> > >

> > > If you can live the life and frustration as a fat person, you

can

> > do this.

> > > Being fat is MUCH harder than better food choices. Again, it's

> all

> > > perspective.

> > >

> > > What about your fill level? Are you at good restricton? If not,

> > get thy

> > > butt to the doc and take care of it.

> > >

> > > There, that's yer' butt kicking. ;o) Just remember, you CAN do

> > this, you

> > > have survived much much harder as a fat person and you have

> > survived a life

> > > that is no walk in the park. If you can survive fat life you

can

> > easily

> > > survive the above plan for the next week.

> > >

> > > And BTW, this means start the whole plan tomorrow, not on

Sunday

> at

> > the

> > > beginning of the week. If you have already eaten a load of

carbs

> > today you

> > > will be hungry for the rest of the day. It's a blood sugar

> thing.

> > So start

> > > tomorrow and keep remembering, you can do this.

> > >

> > > Good luck to you!<<

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Jenni and . :-) how are you girls doing today? thank you

so much for the compliments!! :-) I am loving it!! It is getting me

in some trouble though. hee hee I am turned into this huge flirt and

my husband gets really frustrated with me when I do this. But I told

him to shut up and hang on for the ride! cuz I spent many years being

ignored and treated like sh** because I was so obese. so now when I

walk in a room and people take notice I am going to enjoy every

minute of it! plus like I told him I draw lines that I dont cross.

Like I dont hang on people or touch I just like to enjoy the

attention once in awhile. I told him " daddy let me have some

funlol :-) I think this is one of the phases of this whole journey.

You take a person guy or gal that has been imprisoned in their body

and once you loose the weight and you are no longer a prisoner you

want to be free! and sometimes this leads to divorce and

complications in relationships. But I personally dont want a

divorce. I have built a life with my husband and yes we have been

through a lot together. One thing I appreciate is that he stuck by

me in my darkest times and never judged me. so why would I ditch him

just to play around and find out the grass is not greener. So, for

me it is about finding that " zone " in which I can flirt and enjoy the

attention without letting it cause problems in my marriage. It is a

tough juggle sometimes. I fine line. Like one of the friends in

our " friends " group, he and I have like this attraction for one

another. It is like we just have sparks between us. well we were

flirting and talking and laughing with each other and both our

spouses got very upset with us, so we had to back way off and now we

have to respect our spouses feelings and not make them feel we are

crossing " the Line " . It sucks sometimes! Some people may think what

I am saying is crazy, but others of you know exactly what I am

talking about! Like I said it is one of the " phases in this journey " .

well you all have a super great day, I must go deep clean my house! :-

) big hugs,

dob 10/6/06

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> > >

> > > ...

> > >

> > > I wrote this for another board a few days ago and thought it

> might

> > help.

> > > Someone else was having problems exactly such as you. My

> thoughts

> > only. By

> > > the way, the person specifically asked for me to give her a

> > buttkicking

> > > thus, the reason for the post! ;o)

> > >

> > > >>While 52 pounds is very good and it's certainly better than

> > gaining, you

> > > are right. You can do better.

> > >

> > > I'm going to get hammered for writing this but that has never

> > stopped me

> > > before. ;o) You know these people that eat pizza and tacos a

few

> > days after

> > > surgery and they come to the boards asking if they just messed

> up?

> > You know

> > > those people that pat them on the head, tell them it's okay,

and

> > to " try " to

> > > do better tomorrow? Yeah, I'm not one of those people. I tell

> > them to

> > > knock it off, they are risking their band and why? For a lousy

> > taco?? Are

> > > they serious? I don't suggest they TRY to do better the next

> day,

> > I tell

> > > them to DO better right now.

> > >

> > > I think we often times don't give ourselves enough credit. We

> > think we are

> > > weak willed and powerless over the world. That simply isn't

> true.

> > We have

> > > been living a life of fat for many years. You tell me the weak

> > willed and

> > > powerless can do that, I won't believe you. Being fat in

today's

> > society is

> > > no easy task. It's really damned hard. Yet we survive it and if

> > we can

> > > survive that, we can survive passing up a donut. Let's face it,

> it

> > is much

> > > easier to pass up a donut than it is to have to buy two

airlines

> > seats

> > > because our butts are too big for one seat. It's much easier to

> > pass up a

> > > single donut than it is to face ourselves in the mirror of Lane

> > Giant after

> > > realizing we are yet... a bigger size than the last time we

were

> > there. We

> > > face humiliation and embarrassment every single day just due to

> our

> > size. I

> > > think sometimes we tend to get used to it and forget that

> > humiliation and

> > > embarrassment are NOT normal and a part of life. We also

pretend

> > it does

> > > not hurt as much as it does.

> > >

> > > I'm not trying to be a skank about this but you know, WLS is

our

> > last shot

> > > at WL. This is a big deal, we have choices and too many times

we

> > are all

> > > making the wrong ones. I don't eat a lot of junk because I

don't

> > need it.

> > > Neither do you. I disagree with those that say ANYTHING in

> > moderation is

> > > okay. The reason I disagree is because ALL of us did not get

fat

> > because we

> > > can do moderation well. With a band or any WLS our caloric

> intake

> > is cut

> > > drastically and we need every calorie for food we actually need

> and

> > use.

> > > The only thing cake, pasta, or crap food will do for your body

is

> > make it

> > > more plump.

> > >

> > > This is a lifestyle change and a lifestyle change does not mean

> > eating the

> > > same load of crap but just less of it, that means overhauling

> your

> > diet and

> > > eating food that your body needs and does something positive

for

> > it. What

> > > " value " does Chocolate cake have for your body?

> > >

> > > So does this mean that you can never have a piece of birthday

> cake

> > again?

> > > Of course not. It means that eating junk on a regular basis

> serves

> > no

> > > value. We don't know what moderation is so we have to go

> searching

> > for it.

> > > Moderation does not mean limiting ourselves to crap food just

one

> > time daily

> > > or one time weekly, it means more along the lines of on

> birthdays,

> > special

> > > occasions. When we " plan " on eating junk weekly, what does that

> > make our

> > > thinking? That means we are *still* planning our lives around

> food

> > and poor

> > > choices. Thin people don't set out to plan on when they will

eat

> a

> > load of

> > > crap, they don't even think about it until the birthday party

or

> > social

> > > meeting is there staring them in the face. Yet we fatties

> actually

> > plan a

> > > date and time to eat bad food. See the difference in thinking

> > between a fat

> > > person and a normal size person?

> > >

> > > The lifestyle change is not planning on WHEN we will have loads

> of

> > crap

> > > food, lifestyle change means actually going out there and

living

> > what we

> > > claim we want. Life as a normal size person.

> > >

> > > If you can face the humiliation of being obese in society, can

> you

> > honestly

> > > sit there and tell yourself that passing up junk food is harder

> > than being

> > > the fat girl walking into a room where being MO is socially

> > unacceptable? I

> > > mean, I think there comes a time when we have to put things in

> > their proper

> > > perspective and this is one of those times. Next time you want

> > junk food

> > > get real and get honest with yourself. Get a photo of that food

> > item and a

> > > photo of a person that is the size you want to be. Which do you

> > want more,

> > > do you want the cake more than you want to be thin and healthy?

> Be

> > very

> > > honest with yourself. If you prefer the cake over thin then

just

> > go for it

> > > and have the darn band removed. But I'll bet you'd rather have

> > thin over a

> > > piece of cake when you really get honest with yourself. It's

all

> > about

> > > perspective and self awareness of what you want out of this

> life.

> > We have a

> > > choice, and it IS a choice. We can be fat or we can be thin.

> With

> > a band

> > > thin IS within grasp.

> > >

> > > The thing about us fat folks is that traditional diet and

> exercise

> > is too

> > > hard, we just can't do it. We cannot lose and maintain at a

> normal

> > size

> > > weight. Call it a lack of self control, call it anything you

> > want. I'll

> > > cop to it, I'll be one to stand right up there and admit that I

> > can't do

> > > it. But with a band it is still hard but it is the kind of hard

> WE

> > can do,

> > > OUR population. Losing weight with a band is the kind of hard

we

> > can do but

> > > without a band, nope... we can't do it.

> > >

> > > Sometimes, maybe often times, maybe 20x a day when we are

> > justifying more

> > > grazing behaviors and opening the frig to see what unnecessary

> food

> > is in

> > > there, there comes a time when you just have to tell yourself

> no.

> > We tell

> > > our children " no " daily. No, you can't play with razor blades

in

> > the middle

> > > of a busy street. No, you can't eat rat poison. No, you can't

> > fail to look

> > > both ways when crossing a street. No, you can't do drugs. No,

> you

> > can't go

> > > out with that drug abuser who just got out of july. Sometimes

> we

> > have to

> > > tell ourselves no as well.

> > >

> > > If you are like me, not sure you are, but if you are like me I

> > can't stop at

> > > one Frito, or one bite of this or that. For me it is all or

> none.

> > If I eat

> > > white carbs I can't quit. I lose self control. If I stay away

> > from them

> > > completely I have no problem. The more I eat the more I crave.

> I

> > am a

> > > person that wanted bread so bad about 3 months after banding I

> > actually

> > > broke into the bread crumbs I use for cooking and ate the whole

> > can. Then I

> > > started in on dry stuffing mix. It wasn't even something that

> > tasted good

> > > (pretty rank, actually) but I couldn't stand the carb cravings

> > anymore.

> > > That was my moment when I realized when and how I lose self

> > control. So I

> > > avoid those situations.

> > >

> > > You can come over to my house right now and look through my

> house.

> > You

> > > won't find any flour, pasta, bread, Fritos, or other foods that

> are

> > my

> > > triggers. There are no bread crumbs, stuffing mix, cake mixes,

> > cookie

> > > mixes... none of it. I don't even keep it in the house. There

> is

> > not a

> > > person that has ever once been in my home that even needs those

> > foods. My

> > > husband doesn't need them and he doesn't get them if he is

here.

> > Why would

> > > your family NEED cakes, cookies, etc? We are not punishing our

> > family

> > > members by denying them food habits WE have, it really is okay

if

> > you don't

> > > load your cupboards full of crap your kids do not need. I think

> > that is

> > > another mindset we have to change. I've seen people post on

> these

> > very

> > > boards that they can't pass up the cookies in the cupboard but

> they

> > can't

> > > punish their children by not having cookies in the house. Since

> > when it is

> > > a punishment to decline to feed a growing child cookies to the

> > point you

> > > can't have a day without them in your home?

> > >

> > > Exercise... you know, we have physical and emotional reasons for

> > > overeating. Those issues we have to overcome and find ways to

> deal

> > with

> > > them. But exercise? Ynhh, we have no excuse. That is just

> plain

> > lazy

> > > behavior. You don't like exercise? Neither do I. But it's like

> > cleaning

> > > the toilet. Who DOES like to do it? We do it because we have

> to.

> > It's

> > > just a responsibility. We are all great at justifying eating

too

> > much and

> > > not exercising but the reality comes down to sheer lazy

> behaviors.

> > If you

> > > can't run then power walk. If you can't power walk then walk.

> If

> > you can't

> > > walk then do chair exercises. We have the energy to get up and

> run

> > to the

> > > frig 20 times a day yet we can't find the time nor the

motivation

> > to do the

> > > SAME walking outside and away from food. How does that work? ;o)

> > >

> > > There are people who LOVE exercise, zog bless their little

> hearts!

> > It's

> > > like a transfer addiction. They go from eating to exercising.

> > They love

> > > it. Personally, I think they are sick and twisted human

> > beings. ;o) I

> > > exercise but I hate it. Never have enjoyed it, not even a

> little.

> > The

> > > person who invented weight resistance cannot possibly be

anything

> > but a

> > > lover of S & M. They should be shot. But you know what? It

> really

> > really

> > > works. The motivation for me was not busting my butt on a

> > treadmill when I

> > > would have much preferred doing my nails. The motivation was

> that

> > the more

> > > I exercised the more weight I lost. THAT was my addiction,

> losing

> > weight

> > > and getting thin. The more you lose the more motivation you get.

> > >

> > > What if you do this, just for ONE week... one week only. Cut

out

> > ALL white

> > > carbs. Yep, you'll be climbing the walls, you'll be dealing

with

> > head

> > > hunger full force. Every single TV commercial for food will be

> > calling your

> > > name. You'll cus and swear at me and everyone else that is

> around

> > you in

> > > real time or the boards. Start exercising. Even ten minutes of

> > brisk

> > > walking. Work up a sweat, bust your butt. Just 10 minutes.

> That's

> > > nothing, that is the same as a couple of TV commercials. That

is

> > about the

> > > same amount of time to read a single thread on OH. Just take 10

> > simple

> > > minutes and go out for a hard walk. Then you are done

exercising

> > for the

> > > day. Honestly, 10 minutes is NOTHING. We have 144 10 minute

> > blocks in a

> > > day, it really is nothing.

> > >

> > > Then tomorrow do 11 minutes. And yes, time it from the time

your

> > walk is a

> > > brisk one, not when you start thinking it's time to go outside

> for

> > your

> > > walk. When your pace is up to brisk then start timing. Daily

> add

> > a single

> > > minute to it. Push yourself to do better each day, just a

single

> > minute

> > > added.

> > >

> > > So for a week eat what you want, don't count calories, don't

> count

> > fat

> > > grams. Don't worry about calories in the least. Eat what you

> want

> > but do

> > > limit WHITE carbs to 20 a day. I'm just talking for a week. Do

> > the 10

> > > minutes of exercise while adding one minute daily. See what

that

> > does for

> > > you. You want 20 chicken breasts? Eat them. You want zucchini,

> > yellow

> > > squash, any other carbs except fruit? Eat them. Lots of them.

> > Don't even

> > > count carbs from veggies. Just count white carbs and limit those

> > > drastically to 20gms daily. The idea here is not to get you

into

> > ketosis,

> > > the idea is to get you eating the right carbs. Have unlimited

> > VEGGIE

> > > carbs. You'll poop like a champ too. ;o)

> > >

> > > I'll bet you that you lose weight.

> > >

> > > Then as the motivation kicks in and the stomach hunger dies

down

> > you will be

> > > able to cut those 20 chicken breasts down to 10. Then 5, then 1

> > daily.

> > > Understand what is head hunger and what is true stomach hunger.

> > Just focus

> > > on white carbs and minimal exercise. I'll bet you it works.

> > >

> > > If you can live the life and frustration as a fat person, you

can

> > do this.

> > > Being fat is MUCH harder than better food choices. Again, it's

> all

> > > perspective.

> > >

> > > What about your fill level? Are you at good restriction? If

not,

> > get thy

> > > butt to the doc and take care of it.

> > >

> > > There, that's yer' butt kicking. ;o) Just remember, you CAN do

> > this, you

> > > have survived much much harder as a fat person and you have

> > survived a life

> > > that is no walk in the park. If you can survive fat life you

can

> > easily

> > > survive the above plan for the next week.

> > >

> > > And BTW, this means start the whole plan tomorrow, not on

Sunday

> at

> > the

> > > beginning of the week. If you have already eaten a load of

carbs

> > today you

> > > will be hungry for the rest of the day. It's a blood sugar

> thing.

> > So start

> > > tomorrow and keep remembering, you can do this.

> > >

> > > Good luck to you!<<

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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> > >

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> I coudnt find exacly where its grounded, so instead what me and Mr. Gust

> > >> Decided to do is clean up the electricity in the house with stetzer

filters

> > >> that way it would eliminate any dirty electricty the paint is picking up

> > >> from being grounded to the house ground, I have to buy a stezerizer meter

> > >> and filters now, ufortunetly this will ad alot to the cost, but I hope it

> > >> will make the differnce Im hoping it to make.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

Hi everyone so Im responding over a month later about this,

So, After i painted my room with y-shield i started feeling even worse , the

only reason I could think that was the cause is that the paint is grounded to

the electrical ground somwhere, and since the ground caries rf , that is

probably reradiating that back to me from the paint.

Ok so after one month of delaying I got an electrician to come to my house to

help me troubleshoot this problem.

We completely disconnected the ground cpnnection to all outlets from my room

and to his and my surprise the paint was still grounded and had just as strong a

ground as before. He told me its possible that the ground could be coming from

the wall because one of my walls is made of plaster ( I had no idea) because

plaster contains minerals an stuff it can be conductive. Then when we were

testing one of the outlets to check if it was grounded ( btw my house is

grounded by flex cable not with a ground wire to each outlet) and the ground was

disconnected from my room so there was supposed to be no ground from the metal

case but the oulet tester showed that it was grounded! Now we knew that my

entire plaster wall was grounded because the metal case was touching the

plaster, we tested the plaster to see if indeed it was grounded an it was.

Even though the yshield paint isnt directly touching the plaster because of 5-6

coats of paint underneath, Im guesiing its still grounded by it because the

previews layers still have a little conductivity and the area is so large and

its also probably touching directly in a few small areas.

The only solution he came up with was to take the paint off from that wall and

repaint it with a paint called lastatamedic that is like a plastic so there

would be no conductivity between the y shield and the plaster when i paint with

y-shield over it.

Any other suggestions on how to Fix this problem will be appreciated.!

(btw hes the coolest guy I explained to him what Im doing and he was very

interested and open minded about it. He also told me that he used to do surveys

in my area for the electric company and that many people made complains about

the power lines and cell towers making them feel bad here.

Sorry is some parts may sound confusing or dont make sense Im kinda tired and

sick.

Cristian

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I guess we use the 'broken record' method and keep on saying it till the doc /

endo does listen.

I'm going to phone my endo's secretary tomorrow and ask for my last 3 sets of

blood test results. I know for a fact that the last ones I had done I laid off

my Armour for 3 days, the ones before that I took my meds the night before as

usual and the 1st of the three I went without my Armour for a week.

He always wants me to get the blood tests done at his hospital so that he has

the results sent directly to him, but if there are anomalies in these 3 sets of

results then I think I will have to insist that they are done somewhere else.

Then I am planning a letter to my endo which sets out the facts that I don't

want my meds reducing and the references (thank you Sheila) that support my

case. I will also send a copy to PALS and the PCT, for back up.

Glynis

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