Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 Hello everyone, I am Kamini a retail tech. We have a counter in our pharmacy which is visible but not accesible to customers This is where we keep our Psuedoohedrine products behind locked glass doors. So they can ask us for it and we have a log where we note down their name, item purchased, their DL#, address and signature. We are going to have a meeting where we will discuss the various legal aspects of this new practice. So, here is what we are doing might have missed afew points there but tried my best. Kamini Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry <rxjm2002@...> wrote: Dear All, FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September 30, 2006 (ALL states)! A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. K. Bodine, Assistant Editor http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that it is behind the counter. IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on the Rx shelves or else where? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Dear Kamini, Thank you for sharing this. I would make one suggestion. Make sure that the log is not seen by the patients, otherwise the previous pts names will be seen and this will break HIPAA laws. So it is filled out by RPh? or Rx tech? If pt has to sign the logbook then they can see the previouse patient info and signature. If the log book must be signed by the pt then how will you deal with HIPAA? Please inform us! Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS F/O > Dear All, > > FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September > 30, 2006 (ALL states)! > > A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant > Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " > Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still > find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the > phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra > hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for > pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. > K. Bodine, Assistant Editor > http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 > > If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged > decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no > idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that > it is behind the counter. > > IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? > Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How > is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the > counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough > room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on > the Rx shelves or else where? > > Respectfully, > > Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS > Founder/Owner > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi Jeanetta, We've all PSE products behind the counter since sometime near the beginning of 2006. At first they were behind the pharmacy counter. But in my store (I'm not sure if it's all CVS's) the pharmacy opens an hour later and closes 1/2 hour earlier than the front store. So as not to inconvenience our customers, all PSE products and the log are kept behind the front register. I can't speak as to the log itself since I haven't seen it. I do know that when the product is scanned at the register the amount of PSE in grams purchased prints on the receipt. We have no age limit for the purchasers in NJ just a 3.6 gram per day limit. Also all store employees had to take a (very) short but informative class about the dangers of PSE and why it's now being regulated. We then had to sign a confirmation that we understood the law and we could be prosecuted (personally) should we neglect it. Sincerely, -- Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOO HOO - what a ride! " -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry " <rxjm2002@...> Dear All, FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September 30, 2006 (ALL states)! A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. K. Bodine, Assistant Editor http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that it is behind the counter. IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on the Rx shelves or else where? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear , Thank you for the input. While I knew many states had already sent PSE behind counter, I wondered if any individual pharmacies were laggi;ng behind, with new law if the corresponding state was following only Fed law. In addition, I wondered about the 'logistics' which you so eloquently pointed out. Thanks. Now I just don't understand the part about 'convenience' for the customer. If the pharmacist has to sell it and the pt must sign a log book what does it matter if it is locked up or just under the register for other employees to get to? OR is it NOT law that a RPh must sell it? Can anyone get it from behind counter to sell to the customer? If so then the 'convenience' factor makes sense. Appreciate your enlightening me. IF you out there who are reading this are handling this another way, please give us your input. I had expected some pharmacies to place it on the Rx shelves due of lack of space behind the counter. With all the behind the counter drugs lately we just may need to build bigger, wider pharmacies! Thanks Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner cphtgenius@... wrote: Hi Jeanetta, We've all PSE products behind the counter since sometime near the beginning of 2006. At first they were behind the pharmacy counter. But in my store (I'm not sure if it's all CVS's) the pharmacy opens an hour later and closes 1/2 hour earlier than the front store. So as not to inconvenience our customers, all PSE products and the log are kept behind the front register. I can't speak as to the log itself since I haven't seen it. I do know that when the product is scanned at the register the amount of PSE in grams purchased prints on the receipt. We have no age limit for the purchasers in NJ just a 3.6 gram per day limit. Also all store employees had to take a (very) short but informative class about the dangers of PSE and why it's now being regulated. We then had to sign a confirmation that we understood the law and we could be prosecuted (personally) should we neglect it. Sincerely, -- Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOO HOO - what a ride! " -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry " Dear All, FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September 30, 2006 (ALL states)! A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. K. Bodine, Assistant Editor http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that it is behind the counter. IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on the Rx shelves or else where? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Thank you Kamini! What state are you in? Please update us after your meeting. When did you put this behind the counter? Recently? Thanks so much for you input Jeanetta Kamini Goswami <kaminigoswami@...> wrote: Hello everyone, I am Kamini a retail tech. We have a counter in our pharmacy which is visible but not accesible to customers This is where we keep our Psuedoohedrine products behind locked glass doors. So they can ask us for it and we have a log where we note down their name, item purchased, their DL#, address and signature. We are going to have a meeting where we will discuss the various legal aspects of this new practice. So, here is what we are doing might have missed afew points there but tried my best. Kamini Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry <rxjm2002@...> wrote: Dear All, FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September 30, 2006 (ALL states)! A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. K. Bodine, Assistant Editor http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that it is behind the counter. IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on the Rx shelves or else where? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner --------------------------------- Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Hi Jeanetta, In NJ, anyone can sell PSE products; it's not a requirement that the RPh sell it. Now, from what I've read, Plan-B is a totally different game plan. -- Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOO HOO - what a ride! " -------------- Original message -------------- From: Jeanetta Mastron <rxjm2002@...> Dear , Thank you for the input. While I knew many states had already sent PSE behind counter, I wondered if any individual pharmacies were laggi;ng behind, with new law if the corresponding state was following only Fed law. In addition, I wondered about the 'logistics' which you so eloquently pointed out. Thanks. Now I just don't understand the part about 'convenience' for the customer. If the pharmacist has to sell it and the pt must sign a log book what does it matter if it is locked up or just under the register for other employees to get to? OR is it NOT law that a RPh must sell it? Can anyone get it from behind counter to sell to the customer? If so then the 'convenience' factor makes sense. Appreciate your enlightening me. IF you out there who are reading this are handling this another way, please give us your input. I had expected some pharmacies to place it on the Rx shelves due of lack of space behind the counter. With all the behind the counter drugs lately we just may need to build bigger, wider pharmacies! Thanks Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner cphtgenius@... wrote: Hi Jeanetta, We've all PSE products behind the counter since sometime near the beginning of 2006. At first they were behind the pharmacy counter. But in my store (I'm not sure if it's all CVS's) the pharmacy opens an hour later and closes 1/2 hour earlier than the front store. So as not to inconvenience our customers, all PSE products and the log are kept behind the front register. I can't speak as to the log itself since I haven't seen it. I do know that when the product is scanned at the register the amount of PSE in grams purchased prints on the receipt. We have no age limit for the purchasers in NJ just a 3.6 gram per day limit. Also all store employees had to take a (very) short but informative class about the dangers of PSE and why it's now being regulated. We then had to sign a confirmation that we understood the law and we could be prosecuted (personally) should we neglect it. Sincerely, -- Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOO HOO - what a ride! " -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry " Dear All, FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September 30, 2006 (ALL states)! A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. K. Bodine, Assistant Editor http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that it is behind the counter. IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on the Rx shelves or else where? Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 Dear Jeanetta, Thank you for diverting my attetion to this issue. The last I worked on friday we did not think about covering our pse log but if they havent come up with something over the weekend I will surely suggest this. The way we would do it I think is cover the signatures with a cardboard or something so the person signing cannot see those in front of them. This is what we do with our HIPPA log. Thanks Kamini Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry <rxjm2002@...> wrote: Dear Kamini, Thank you for sharing this. I would make one suggestion. Make sure that the log is not seen by the patients, otherwise the previous pts names will be seen and this will break HIPAA laws. So it is filled out by RPh? or Rx tech? If pt has to sign the logbook then they can see the previouse patient info and signature. If the log book must be signed by the pt then how will you deal with HIPAA? Please inform us! Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS F/O > Dear All, > > FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September > 30, 2006 (ALL states)! > > A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant > Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " > Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still > find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the > phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra > hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for > pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. > K. Bodine, Assistant Editor > http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 > > If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged > decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no > idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that > it is behind the counter. > > IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? > Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How > is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the > counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough > room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on > the Rx shelves or else where? > > Respectfully, > > Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS > Founder/Owner > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2006 Report Share Posted September 24, 2006 You are MOST welcome! While at the eye doctor last year I noticed when I signed in that all of the names and signatures had been 'blackend' out with a magic marker. (area smelled like it too! Receptionist was probably 'high' all day long ) . What THEY did is AS SOON as someone logs in they check the appointment book/calander and get back to them as to how soon the doc can see them. They photo copy it and KEEP that, while placing the original, now blackened at the 'window' for new pts to sign in. At the end of the day they have one photo copy with all sign-ins on it. The blackened sheet is thrown away. The above works for them. BUT with logs that you/Rx MUST have to keep MUST for insurance pick up of meds, sell PSE, etc have original ink I think. So we could not use a copy or blacke them out. My suggestion is a pies of pater just before the one that they are signing that can be 'foldedd' toth enew length each time (longer or lwered each time) . the cardboard over the signature only is not good enough IF there is any other HIPAA info. But if not other PHI then it is okay. PHI like address, phone number, etc MUST be covered EVEN if you do not see the pts name.. For example: if one signs that they are apicking up a med that just happens to be a Class II drug, and the signature only is covered, the next person to sign that log maynot know who picked up the med, but may recognize the address as the 'neighbor's house' OR they could be a criminal and want to ransack the house for drugs. Now your HIPAA compliance Officer would KNOW better than I. But these are things to think about! Please keep us informed how things change or are done! Operations is a very important part of pharmacy, especially in RETAIL! Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Founder/Owner Kamini Goswami <kaminigoswami@...> wrote: Dear Jeanetta, Thank you for diverting my attetion to this issue. The last I worked on friday we did not think about covering our pse log but if they havent come up with something over the weekend I will surely suggest this. The way we would do it I think is cover the signatures with a cardboard or something so the person signing cannot see those in front of them. This is what we do with our HIPPA log. Thanks Kamini Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry <rxjm2002@...> wrote: Dear Kamini, Thank you for sharing this. I would make one suggestion. Make sure that the log is not seen by the patients, otherwise the previous pts names will be seen and this will break HIPAA laws. So it is filled out by RPh? or Rx tech? If pt has to sign the logbook then they can see the previouse patient info and signature. If the log book must be signed by the pt then how will you deal with HIPAA? Please inform us! Respectfully, Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS F/O > Dear All, > > FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September > 30, 2006 (ALL states)! > > A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant > Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " > Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still > find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the > phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra > hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for > pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. > K. Bodine, Assistant Editor > http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 > > If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged > decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no > idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that > it is behind the counter. > > IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? > Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How > is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the > counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough > room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on > the Rx shelves or else where? > > Respectfully, > > Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS > Founder/Owner > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Small Business. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2006 Report Share Posted September 27, 2006 Jeanetta, At my store here in south Texas, we handle ALL PSE sales under the same (Corporate) rules which SHOULD be the same at all of our outlets no matter which state: 1. ANY O.T.C. that contains PSE is kept behind the Pharmacy counter. 2. ANY 'store employee' can sell PSE products. At my store, many employees cross-train to work in the Pharmacy as a PA. So this past month every store employee had to 'take the coporate IVR (hint.. hint..)' phone PSE 'Exam' no matter what their position happens to be. 3. We keep a PSE logbook behind the Pharmacy counter that anyone who wishes to purchase PSE products must sign. The logbook records the following information: Name, D.L. or State/Military Photo I.D. #/Address/DOB/Product Purchased (It is not an absolute, but I always record both the product name and NDC#)/Total 'Weight' (Mass) in grams of PSE purchased/Employee Initials/Patient Signature. 4. Yes, Jeanetta.... This is ANNOYING!!! Especially since now it is not PSE ONLY that we have to log but all products that contain PSE! It does take take up time and the way that the PSE logbook is 'setup' might expose this community's valueable store chain to possible HIIPA violations of Patient Sensitive Information PERHAPS. Call Corporate Legal on the HIIPA issues, but since there is not a SS#, Diagnosis Code, Doctor Name, or Patient Sensitive Payment or TP/Insurance Information on the actual logbook that I fill out and the patient signs... Well, as I stated As An Employee of a pharmacy chain that campers visually see as they drive by our stores, or more specifically since I live right on the Gulf Coast of Texas and 'Snowbirds' (especially those from Rhode Island) can recognize us because of our clearly visable storefronts... I believe that my company's PSE policies concerning PSE products will not get our corporation of valuable services into legal trouble. Best Wishes From Tropical Texas, Christian B. Oliver RCPhT (TX) Hi Jeanetta, > > We've all PSE products behind the counter since sometime near the beginning of 2006. At first they were behind the pharmacy counter. But in my store (I'm not sure if it's all CVS's) the pharmacy opens an hour later and closes 1/2 hour earlier than the front store. So as not to inconvenience our customers, all PSE products and the log are kept behind the front register. I can't speak as to the log itself since I haven't seen it. I do know that when the product is scanned at the register the amount of PSE in grams purchased prints on the receipt. We have no age limit for the purchasers in NJ just a 3.6 gram per day limit. Also all store employees had to take a (very) short but informative class about the dangers of PSE and why it's now being regulated. We then had to sign a confirmation that we understood the law and we could be prosecuted (personally) should we neglect it. > > Sincerely, > > > > -- > Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming " WOO HOO - what a ride! " > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: " Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS Chemistry " > Dear All, > > FDA Requirement:Pseudoephedrine MUST go BEHIND counter by September > 30, 2006 (ALL states)! > > A MUST READ if you are a RETAIL Tech: " Replacement Decongestant > Maintains Patients' Access to Meds " > Patients suffering from congestion from allergies or a cold can still > find decongestants on the shelves, but after test-driving the > phenylephrine-containing alternative, they may not mind the extra > hassle associated with asking their pharmacists for > pseudoephedrine-containing medicines…….. > K. Bodine, Assistant Editor > http://www.pharmacytimes.com/articleNewsletter.cfm?ID=3902 > > If you are a hospital tech expect to see more cases of unmanaged > decongestion or complications of the same in ER as people may have no > idea that pseudoephedrine is replaced or what it was once in or that > it is behind the counter. > > IS YOUR pharmacy in compliance now? Will they be by September 30,2006? > Tell us about what is going on in your pharmacy with this issue? How > is your pharmacy handling or storing or shelving the new BEHIND the > counter requirements for pseudoephedrine and Plan B??? Is ther eenough > room for BEHIND the counter products? Do you place Pseudoephrine on > the Rx shelves or else where? > > Respectfully, > > Jeanetta Mastron CPhT BS > Founder/Owner > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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