Advice

July 17, 2009

I'm so happy to hear this!!! Yay for you!!!

Kym

In a message dated 7/17/2009 9:23:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time, desertgoldrush@... writes:

Good morning all. I am happy to say that having an apple day helped me drop two pounds today after a seven day stall.> > >> > > When I had a stall, and knew that I was doing everything right, I did an > > > apple day. The next day I had lost 2.2 lbs, with a loss everyday from there. > > > > > > You are doing great! Keep it up and don't let this get you down at all!> > > > > > Kym> > > Rd1, day 4 of P3, 31.5 down, 45 more to go!> > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/16/2009 10:30:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > desertgoldrush@ writes:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone offer advice?> > > I have been on the restricted diet for 16 days and I have only lost 9 > > > pounds. I started at 167 and am at 158. I have not cheated and have been doing > > > ok on it. I have been at 158 for the last 7 days with no loss. I am > > > wondering if I am doing something wrong.> > > I use the drops 3 times a day and take 12 drops.> > > I usually have a schedule:> > > am- fruit> > > lunch-protien and vegetable> > > Dinner-protien and vegetable> > > snack- fruit> > > I hardly ever remember to eat my melba toast.> > > I stopped using body lotions when I started this but my skin is dry so i > > > need to buy something suitable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. > > > (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu> > > slove00000001)> > >> >>

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July 17, 2009

Good morning all. I am happy to say that having an apple day helped me drop two

pounds today after a seven day stall.

> > >

> > > When I had a stall, and knew that I was doing everything right, I did an

> > > apple day. The next day I had lost 2.2 lbs, with a loss everyday from

there.

> > >

> > > You are doing great! Keep it up and don't let this get you down at all!

> > >

> > > Kym

> > > Rd1, day 4 of P3, 31.5 down, 45 more to go!

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/16/2009 10:30:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > > desertgoldrush@ writes:

> > >

> > > Can anyone offer advice?

> > > I have been on the restricted diet for 16 days and I have only lost 9

> > > pounds. I started at 167 and am at 158. I have not cheated and have been

doing

> > > ok on it. I have been at 158 for the last 7 days with no loss. I am

> > > wondering if I am doing something wrong.

> > > I use the drops 3 times a day and take 12 drops.

> > > I usually have a schedule:

> > > am- fruit

> > > lunch-protien and vegetable

> > > Dinner-protien and vegetable

> > > snack- fruit

> > > I hardly ever remember to eat my melba toast.

> > > I stopped using body lotions when I started this but my skin is dry so i

> > > need to buy something suitable.

> > >

> > > **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now.

> > >

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/?ncid=emlweu

> > > slove00000001)

> > >

> >

>

July 17, 2009

Yay!!!! Keep up the great work!!!

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Sent:Fri 7/17/09 10:08 am

Subj:Re: Re: advice

I'm so happy to hear this!!! Yay for you!!!

Kym

In a message dated 7/17/2009 9:23:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

desertgoldrush@... writes:

Good morning all. I am happy to say that having an apple day helped me drop

two pounds today after a seven day stall.

> > >

> > > When I had a stall, and knew that I was doing everything right, I

did an

> > > apple day. The next day I had lost 2.2 lbs, with a loss everyday

from there.

> > >

> > > You are doing great! Keep it up and don't let this get you down at

all!

> > >

> > > Kym

> > > Rd1, day 4 of P3, 31.5 down, 45 more to go!

> > >

> > > In a message dated 7/16/2009 10:30:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,

> > > desertgoldrush@ writes:

> > >

> > > Can anyone offer advice?

> > > I have been on the restricted diet for 16 days and I have only lost

9

> > > pounds. I started at 167 and am at 158. I have not cheated and have

been doing

> > > ok on it. I have been at 158 for the last 7 days with no loss. I am

> > > wondering if I am doing something wrong.

> > > I use the drops 3 times a day and take 12 drops.

> > > I usually have a schedule:

> > > am- fruit

> > > lunch-protien and vegetable

> > > Dinner-protien and vegetable

> > > snack- fruit

> > > I hardly ever remember to eat my melba toast.

> > > I stopped using body lotions when I started this but my skin is dry

so i

> > > need to buy something suitable.

> > >

> > > ************ ************<WBR>**Can love help you live

> > >

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> > >

> >

>

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September 10, 2009

read the label twice to check the count! That is when I mess up when I only read

it once

Lynn

~*~ And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful

than the risk it took to blossom. ~*~

From: crystal zamudio <czamudio18@...>

Subject: advice

jeanettasPTCBstudygroup

Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 9:37 AM

hi everyone i havent been on here..been taking care of my 5 month old baby...so

here's the deal....i might start working at a pharmacy next week..finally its

been a little more than year since i havent worked . but i feel a little bit

nervous i really want to impress them.....does anyone have some good advice for

me.. anything specific i should know. im pretty much a rookie..ive only had 3

months experience in a pharmacy.

September 10, 2009

Advice for working in a retail pharmacy would be-> excellent people skills. Give

good eye contact, great active listening, attentive body language, smile, care

and quickly/carefully do what is needed in the context of the customer coming

1st, while doing what is -> required within the pharmacy.

I have found even if I didn't have all parts of what was asked of me by a

customer on the phone, at the drop off, or at the register-> showing I care,

being confident, having a sense of urgency (because the pharmacy is busy, and

the customer's time is valuable)seems to assist in the most positive ways.

I've found when any assoc. lacks people-skills, situations get unnecessarily

chaotic. It's a nasty chain reaction among the customers (and their perception

of what is happening " back there " ). It's also affects the associates. So be your

charming self, and you're good-> and all else will happen as you need it to

(smiles).

Giving warmth and respect not only will satisfy and please your customers, but

your coworkers will feel the good effects of your upbeat skills as well. When

rapport is built between you and the customer/patient your job will become a

place that you will enjoy more too.

>

> From: crystal zamudio <czamudio18@...>

> Subject: advice

> jeanettasPTCBstudygroup

> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 9:37 AM

>

hi everyone i havent been on here..been taking care of my 5 month old baby...so

here's the deal....i might start working at a pharmacy next week..finally its

been a little more than year since i havent worked . but i feel a little bit

nervous i really want to impress them.....does anyone have some good advice for

me.. anything specific i should know. im pretty much a rookie..ive only had 3

months experience in a pharmacy.

September 10, 2009

I am about ready to graduate and start my internship, but I do have retail

experience in other fields. All I can say is first of all, try to relax, double

check everything, listen to your customers along with your RPh, and techs. Just

remember, be kind, courteous and passionate in our profession, and above all

have faith in your abilities. Make sure that if there is anything you have a

question about, ask your pharmacist. Good luck, and congrats on your new baby.

Rusty

>

> hey people well i should have the baby any day now..so i was just asking if

you's have any advice for me when i start working into the pharmacy field

again...i applied in cvs and i think i have a pretty good chance with them.

>

> crystal

October 19, 2009

Hi Mandy

TSH 7.2 was that FT4 ? ( units )

Bob

>

> Hi all,

>

> I have just received my results for thyroid and they read as follows:-

>

> TSH 7.2 and TSH almost undetectable at 0.05 - is the T4 a little low here - I

feel as though I am low T4 but there again if I am showing TSH low is it that I

am not converting - I am on 105 mg of Armour by the way and 20 mg cortisol.

>

> Thanks for your anticipated help on this

>

> regards

>

> Mandy

>

October 19, 2009

Do you mean Free T4 at 7.2 - and if the answer is yes, then this

is far too low. Bet they didn't test your Free T3 did they? It does

appear that you need more Armour Thyroid so I would be tempted to increase this

by half a grain. How do you come to taking " 105 mg of Armour). Armour is

in tablets of 1 grain (60mgs) or 2 grains (120mgs) and if you are taking 1 1/2

grains, that would mean you are taking 90mgs.

Hope this helps.

Luv - Sheila

Hi all,

I have just received my results for thyroid and they read as follows:-

TSH 7.2 and TSH almost undetectable at 0.05 - is the T4 a little low here - I

feel as though I am low T4 but there again if I am showing TSH low is it that I

am not converting - I am on 105 mg of Armour by the way and 20 mg cortisol.

Thanks for your anticipated help on this

regards

Mandy

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October 19, 2009

Hi all - sorry I meant to say T4 - assume that is Free T4?

thanks

October 19, 2009

Hi there

Taking 105 mg as had some odd 30s and 15 left over from when I was starting out

on Armour and 120mg seemed to be too high and dropped down to 105 by taking 3 x

30 mg and a 15 cos 100 was not enough.

I didnt feel like I was on too much at 120 mg but for flying off handle but

there again that could be too low - I am starting to exercise as well now so

that might bring me down even lower. What is the optimum T4 level - can anyone

tell me.

Thanks for help

regards

Mandy

October 19, 2009

Hi Mandy,

What range did they quote for the FT4 (with units of measurement)?

Bob

>

> Hi all - sorry I meant to say T4 - assume that is Free T4?

>

> thanks

>

October 19, 2009

Hi Bob,

It didn’t say – it was a letter from my

Lupus consultant who always checks my auto immune Hashi’s by doing

thyroid tests but he only does TSH and T4 I’m afraid …..

Regards

Mandy

November 19, 2009

I take 12 drops for breast cancer.

Jane

>

> I have been taking 15 drops of 5% Lugol's solution for well over a

year--one single dose per day. Sometimes I take lots more, but not usually.

Since breast lumps continue to break up and disappear, I am thinking that I need

to continue with this dose until all lumps have disappeared. Do you that are

well informed re iodine use agree with this thinking? I have been thinking that

maybe I need to lower the dose but am not real sure about it. All input

appreciated. tia pj

>

November 20, 2009

I would keep going until it has been resolved. You may want to do an iodine loading test w/ bromide levels when you are about to reduce your dose to see what your status is.

Steph

advice

I have been taking 15 drops of 5% Lugol's solution for well over a year--one single dose per day. Sometimes I take lots more, but not usually. Since breast lumps continue to break up and disappear, I am thinking that I need to continue with this dose until all lumps have disappeared. Do you that are well informed re iodine use agree with this thinking? I have been thinking that maybe I need to lower the dose but am not real sure about it. All input appreciated. tia pj

July 15, 2011

i'm sorry i can't help with what you can get put in your records but for now

maybe that should be the least of your concenrs.

you sound as if you are suffering with low adrenal reserve...being shattered for

days after an exercise session is a classic low adrenal symptom. if you look in

the files section under adrenals, you will find some questionnaires regarding

the adrenals...your answers will give very good feedback to see what state you

are in.

as a first pass though to support your adrenals you need to take what might be

construed as mega doses of vitamin c ...however don't take it all in one go, you

could try something like half a gram every three or four hours. the adrenals

are the biggest user of vit c and as you probably know, the human body has lost

the ability to make this vitamin for itself so it has to come from outside.

another easy thing to do (providing you don't suffer with salt dependent high

blood pressure) is to take 1/4 to 1/2 tsp of unrefined sea salt (celtic sea salt

is excellent) first thing in the morning...the adrenals need unrefined salt.

they also need good quality saturated fat ...not a huge amount but they do need

some. you could try organic butter or organic virgin cold pressed coconut oil

for example.

if you can start the vit c immediately you will very quickly notice a difference

in your teeth/gums ...i suffered rampant peridontal disease until i started

taking high dose vit c a couple of years ago after reading on here that the

adrenals needed vit c.

untreated and undertreated thyroid disease puts a huge amount of stress on the

adrenal system ....the adrenals to their level best to try and

support/compensate for the failing area...until it all just becomes toooo much

and everything really starts to fall apart! (that's my experience anyway). the

good thing is that vit c, salt and saturated fat will have an almost instant

benefit ...however it takes a goodish while to get to adrenal fatigue state and

it can also take a goodish while to get really well. there are many other

things to do to support the adrenals ...a saliva test is a good place to start

because that way you will know how they are doing and at what times of the day

they are over or under active ...there is a link in the files to genova testing

and that gives all the information you need plus a good discount for tpa

members.

>a rising TSH, family history of thyroid/autoimmune problems, low temperature

and multiple classic hypo symptoms.

have you got some test rsults to post up (please include reference ranges too).

you gp's idea that your symptoms are in your head just demonstrates her pitiful

ignorance and failure as a doctor ...did she offer you anti-depressants?

are you on any medication now? have you been tested for hashimoto's (auto

immune thyroid disease)

your sinisitus sounds very painful and that must be stressful too. if you have

had loads of antibiotics then your gut will almost certainly have got out of

balance in terms of good and bad bugs...taking probiotics will help restore the

balance. an imbalance gives candida a chance to overgrow and then that stops

thyroid hormones working properly.

good for your sister for staying with you and to you, courage mon brave!

best wishes

trish

>

> I'd like to know what information I can request to be put into my medical

records? After seeing my own records it's pretty clear that my GP states that

I'm 'fatigued and listless' and doesn't mention the phenomenal list of all my

ongoing, worsening symptoms - too numerous to mention, but which include a

rising TSH,

EDITED by moderator to remove remainder of previous message.

July 17, 2011

You need to put all of this into a letter and send it to your GP

and request that this letter of information with requests be placed into your

medical notes. You should send a copy of your letter to your Head of practice

and keep a copy of it yourself in case you need to use it later.

Be sure to date the letter. List all of your symptoms and signs

and check these against those in our web site under 'Symptoms and Signs' in the

'Hypothyroidism' Tag.

List your basal temperature taken before you get out of bed in a

morning and before you have anything to eat or drink for 4 or 5 days if these

are less than 97.8 F (36.6 degrees C) or less.

List any members of your family who have a thyroid or autoimmune

disease.

List the blood tests you would like to be done which would be

the full thyroid function tests available. These are TSH, free T4, free T3, TPO

Ab and TgAb to see whether you have antibodies to your thyroid. List also the

following specific minerals and vitamins you would like tested to see whether

any of these are low in the reference range@ ferritin, vitamin B12, vitamin D3,

magnesium, folate, copper and zinc. Should any of these be low in the reference

range, your thyroid hormone cannot be fully utilised at the cellular level

until whatever is low has been fully supplemented. Anticipate that your GP will

tell you that there is " no association " between these specific

vitamins, minerals and thyroid, and add into your letter the following

references to the research and studies to show that there is:

Low iron/ferritin: Iron deficiency is shown to

significantly reduce T4 to T3 conversion, increase reverse T3 levels, and block

the thermogenic (metabolism boosting) properties of thyroid hormone (1-4).

Thus, iron deficiency, as indicated by an iron saturation below 25 or a

ferritin below 70, will result in diminished intracellular T3 levels.

Additionally, T4 should not be considered adequate thyroid replacement if iron

deficiency is present (1-4)).

1.

Dillman E, Gale C, Green W, et al.

Hypothermia in iron deficiency due to altered triiodithyroidine metabolism.

Regulatory, Integrative and Comparative Physiology 1980;239(5):377-R381.

2.

SM, PE, Lukaski HC. In vitro

hepatic thyroid hormone deiodination in iron-deficient rats: effect of dietary

fat. Life Sci 1993;53(8):603-9.

3.

Zimmermann MB, Köhrle J. The Impact of Iron

and Selenium Deficiencies on Iodine and Thyroid Metabolism: Biochemistry and

Relevance to Public Health. Thyroid 2002;12(10): 867-78.

4.

Beard J, tobin B, Green W. Evidence for

Thyroid Hormone Deficiency in Iron-Deficient Anemic Rats. J. Nutr.

1989;119:772-778.

Low vitamin B12: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18655403

Low vitamin D3: http://www.eje-online.org/cgi/content/abstract/113/3/329

and http://www.goodhormonehealth.com/VitaminD.pdf

Low magnesium: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC292768/pdf/jcinvest00264-0105.pdf

Low folate: http://www.clinchem.org/cgi/content/full/47/9/1738

and http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/thy.1999.9.1163

Low copper http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.drlwilson.com/articles/copper_toxicity_syndrome.htm

http://www.ithyroid.com/copper.htm

http://www.rjpbcs.com/pdf/2011_2(2)/68.pdf

http://ajplegacy.physiology.org/content/171/3/652.extract

Low zinc:http://www.istanbul.edu.tr/ffdbiyo/current4/07%20Iham%20AM%C4%B0R.pdf

and http://articles.webraydian.com/article1648-Role_of_Zinc_and_Copper_in_Effective_Thyroid_Function.html

Ferritin levels for women need to be

between 70 and 90 (for men around between 150 and 170) Vitamin B12 needs to be

at the top of the range.

D3 levels need to be about 50. Magnesium

levels need to be at the top of the range, it's one thing that gets missed a

great deal.

Ask for the results of these to be made

available to you together with the reference range for each of the tests done.

Anything else you want to mention that you have

written about below, add into your letter.

Ask that the letter be placed into your

medical notes. Doctors cannot withhold any information that is in your medical

notes from you under the Data Protection Act 1998.

Patients are often given a diagnosis of

fibromyalgia (FM), Me and CFS when a patient is presenting with all the classic

symptoms and signs of hypothyroidism, yet their thyroid function blood tests

are within the so called 'normal' reference range, and the doctor therefore has

no idea what is wrong with them. These diagnoses first showed up after all

patients with hypothyroid symptoms were treated with natural desiccated porcine

thyroid extract that contains all the thyroid hormones t4, t3, t2, T1 and

calcitonin, when the synthetic levothyroxine (T4-only) was manufactured. Those

patients who needed the active thyroid hormone T3 suddenly were not getting it

any more, so they started showing all their symptoms again. Patients started to

be told they were suffering with CFS, ME and FM - all of which can be treated

successfully in a lot of cases with T3 - which is being virtually banned by the

BTA.

Jo, stop worrying about your GP and whether

she is happy or not - We are not here to make our GP happy, our GP is here to

make us better, whether they like it or not. I would be tempted to ask such a

GP whether she was doctoring because of the huge salary she gets - or whether

she actually DOES care about finding the cause of her patients suffering.

OK - will step down from my soap box and

leave it to somebody else ;o)

Luv - Sheila

I have been told I have CFS which seems to have

very similar symptoms to hypothyroidism. Can I compile a list of all my

symptoms and ask my GP to put this in my medical records? Suffice to say that

she is far from helpful - example, I have chronic sinusitis and atrophic

rhinitis which is so bad that my nose bleeds everyday now and antibiotics don't

touch it. It's now affecting my gums causing pressure and pain, plus my gums

are gradually receding on the upper left side of my mouth and causing ear

pain/pressure too. I'm seeing my dentist today to get to the bottom of this.

Last year I mentioned this to my GP who told me that sinuses don't affect teeth

or gums, and she knew this because her sister is a dentist? After doing some

research myself, it would seem my GP doesn't know what she's talking about, so

I don't have much faith in what she says at the best of times. She is very

dismissive of me at times, and when I recently took my sister along as a

witness, the GP told my sister to go and wait in reception. My sister refused,

and I said I hadn't brought her to the appointment with me so that she could go

and wait outside. My GP was not happy.

Thanks, Jo

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August 3, 2011

Hi again

What jumped out to me was the probable need for progesterone - have you been

reading the recent posts on that?

I had really bad fibrocystic breast disease and pre-menopausal heavy bleeding.

That was 2004, but what cured the FBD and made me go through a real easy

menopause - no hot flashes at all, was adding iodine (7 to 10 kelp pills a day

and 1 Prolamine Iodine) and religiously applying progesterone cream once or

twice a day.

I have figured out that they're down on kelp and Prol. Iodine here, but I think

you'll do even better with the higher doses of iodine from Iodoral. Think

(read) about estrogen dominance and progesterone cream. I used Emerita Progest

and Source Naturals progesterone cream.

The FBD never came back since 2004, but that routine and LDN have not helped my

7.1 cm goiter. That's one reason I'm here and doing this Iodine protocol. I

started June 1 on 12.5 mg Lugols. I'm now up to 90 mg / day, 1 50 mg Iodoral

with Lugols for the rest. My goiter is feeling smaller.

If you haven't tried progesterone cream yet, I recommend it for some of your

problems. Hopefully enough iodine will help both our goiters.

I gained 20 lbs with menopause, then added the kelp, Prol Iodine and a 500 mg

Green Tea cap / day, and the 20 lbs came off in the next year without dieting.

Now I weigh what I did when I was 15 - I'm 62. I think those things helped.

Wishing you success on your journey to better health,

Karyn

>

> I want to give some background and ask for advice.

>

> Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

> Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

have ever seen

> One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since the

biopsy (not cancer)

> " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

> Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy, little

fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds or more

overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat less....grrrr. I don't

believe in the calories in vs. calories out theory. I also didn't lose a single

pound on a ketogenic diet for 2 months.

> Age - 42

> Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)

>

> I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to it,

but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her on most

things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just switched to Iodoral.

>

> Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very anti-mainstream

medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and bloodwork, but part of me

is curious. How long would it take to notice any difference from the Iodine.

>

> I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current status. Nothing

is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel well. After starting the

iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this is a good thing. My ND says

that she has discovered aluminum, mercury, and lead that I need to detox, so she

gave me chlorella.

>

> Deidre

>

August 3, 2011

There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that your

body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine. Most

MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so

it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the subject,

it's really that simple, sad to say.

Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.

I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some

slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C as

part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list. Once

I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing weight.

Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and people

have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it

means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are

stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox

pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through holding

onto things and start letting go.

You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on

the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it. I

finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why I

like him so much, he respects my choices.

Anyway, hope this helps.

--

moderator

>I want to give some background and ask for advice.

>

>Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

>Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

>have ever seen

>One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since

>the biopsy (not cancer)

> " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

>mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

>Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,

>little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds

>or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat

>less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out

>theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2 months.

>Age - 42

>Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)

>

>I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

>iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to

>it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her

>on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

>switched to Iodoral.

>

>Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

>goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

>anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and

>bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice

>any difference from the Iodine.

>

>I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current

>status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel

>well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this

>is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,

>and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.

>

>Deidre

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)

>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ\

%20FIRST/

>

August 3, 2011

I notice Karyn mentioned progesterone. I started taking pregnenolone as

part of my healing from adrenal exhaustion, and it's been

great. Pregnenolone is a precursor to all the steroid hormones including

progesterone. So it gives the body what it needs to build hormones and it

can choose and therefore balance itself, particularly in concert with

iodine (as iodine enhances the body's ability to balance hormones).

Many people will say that you should get tested first, and I'm sure that's

a good idea, however I did not. Others have said they didn't have a good

response to pregnenolone, and I respect that. Fortunately for myself I

did, and it's affected me only positively, to the point that even my sexual

health is better.

I prefer the idea of taking the precursor because that allows the body to

do the balancing. However, that requires that your body be able to

manufacture the correct hormones appropriately, and some people's health

issues involved a loss in that area, and those would be the people, I

assume, who would not respond well.

I just wish I'd known about it long before.

--

At 05:08 AM 8/3/2011, you wrote:

>There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that your

>body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine. Most

>MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so

>it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the subject,

>it's really that simple, sad to say.

>

>Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.

>

>I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some

>slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C as

>part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list. Once

>I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing

>weight.

>

>Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

>are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and people

>have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it

>means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

>them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are

>stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox

>pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through holding

>onto things and start letting go.

>

>You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on

>the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it. I

>finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why I

>like him so much, he respects my choices.

>

>Anyway, hope this helps.

>

>--

>moderator

>

> >I want to give some background and ask for advice.

> >

> >Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

> >Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

> >have ever seen

> >One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since

> >the biopsy (not cancer)

> > " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

> >mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

> >Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,

> >little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds

> >or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat

> >less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out

> >theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2 months.

> >Age - 42

> >Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)

> >

> >I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

> >iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to

> >it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her

> >on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

> >switched to Iodoral.

> >

> >Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

> >goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

> >anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and

> >bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice

> >any difference from the Iodine.

> >

> >I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current

> >status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel

> >well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this

> >is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,

> >and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.

> >

> >Deidre

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

their salvation? ~~~~

--Gilles Deleuze

August 3, 2011

Once again, , we are in complete accord! I've recently started using

Preg. and wish I'd known about it before using HC and Florinef! For those who

want to learn more, I'd suggest Goodling " Pregnalolone stealing " , as this

explains it in good detail.Basically, those who test low in Cortisol ususally

test low in DHEA, Progesterone, etc.This is because in order to produce the high

levels of cortisol in 'first stage AF, your adrenals 'divert', or 'steal' Preg

from making these other hormones.

I and a number of others have been researching and are trying it, now.So far it

seems like there are 2 considerations; there are 'transient' side effects, that

SEEM to happen to some people, when they first start taking, but they don't

effect everyone, and once your body gets used to it, they seem to go away;

headaches (usually from taking too much at one dose), dizzyness, for a minute or

less, heart palps, again mild and only in first couple of days, and sleepiness

or insomnia.

The second issue seems to be with some people, their production of Testosterone

(in women) or estrogen (in men) can go up.Really don't know if this is

transitory, and will resolve as levels straighten out, or not.

I have found I got almost complete releif of symptoms, first day on 10mg.But,

have had to steadily increase dosage. Am now at 100mg./day, and still

increasing.I theorise this is because its going out, and into Cortisol,DHEA,

etc. a little faster than I'm putting it in, and when i get my 'reserves' filled

up, this will no longer be the case, and i will get consistent relief of

symptoms.

How long have you been taking it, how much are you taking, and how did you start

taking it (slow ramp up, or 'jump in with both feet'), and did you have any

negative side effects? Thanks for mentioning this, I hope everyone contemplating

HC for AF researches and considers it, first.Like everything else, it may not be

for everyone, but its something to know about.;-) Jim

> >There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that your

> >body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine. Most

> >MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so

> >it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the subject,

> >it's really that simple, sad to say.

> >

> >Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.

> >

> >I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some

> >slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C as

> >part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list. Once

> >I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing

> >weight.

> >

> >Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

> >are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and people

> >have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it

> >means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

> >them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are

> >stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox

> >pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through holding

> >onto things and start letting go.

> >

> >You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on

> >the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it. I

> >finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why I

> >like him so much, he respects my choices.

> >

> >Anyway, hope this helps.

> >

> >--

> >moderator

> >

> > >I want to give some background and ask for advice.

> > >

> > >Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

> > >Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

> > >have ever seen

> > >One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since

> > >the biopsy (not cancer)

> > > " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

> > >mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

> > >Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,

> > >little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds

> > >or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat

> > >less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out

> > >theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2

months.

> > >Age - 42

> > >Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)

> > >

> > >I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

> > >iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to

> > >it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her

> > >on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

> > >switched to Iodoral.

> > >

> > >Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

> > >goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

> > >anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and

> > >bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice

> > >any difference from the Iodine.

> > >

> > >I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current

> > >status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel

> > >well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this

> > >is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,

> > >and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.

> > >

> > >Deidre

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

> ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

> their salvation? ~~~~

> --Gilles Deleuze

>

August 3, 2011

What kind of test(s), if any, would one need to do in order to determine if pregnenalone is right for you?thank you,ArielOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, dutchdivco <jdutchmanjim@...> wrote:

Once again, , we are in complete accord! I've recently started using Preg. and wish I'd known about it before using HC and Florinef! For those who want to learn more, I'd suggest Goodling " Pregnalolone stealing " , as this explains it in good detail.Basically, those who test low in Cortisol ususally test low in DHEA, Progesterone, etc.This is because in order to produce the high levels of cortisol in 'first stage AF, your adrenals 'divert', or 'steal' Preg from making these other hormones.

I and a number of others have been researching and are trying it, now.So far it seems like there are 2 considerations; there are 'transient' side effects, that SEEM to happen to some people, when they first start taking, but they don't effect everyone, and once your body gets used to it, they seem to go away; headaches (usually from taking too much at one dose), dizzyness, for a minute or less, heart palps, again mild and only in first couple of days, and sleepiness or insomnia.

The second issue seems to be with some people, their production of Testosterone (in women) or estrogen (in men) can go up.Really don't know if this is transitory, and will resolve as levels straighten out, or not.

I have found I got almost complete releif of symptoms, first day on 10mg.But, have had to steadily increase dosage. Am now at 100mg./day, and still increasing.I theorise this is because its going out, and into Cortisol,DHEA, etc. a little faster than I'm putting it in, and when i get my 'reserves' filled up, this will no longer be the case, and i will get consistent relief of symptoms.

How long have you been taking it, how much are you taking, and how did you start taking it (slow ramp up, or 'jump in with both feet'), and did you have any negative side effects? Thanks for mentioning this, I hope everyone contemplating HC for AF researches and considers it, first.Like everything else, it may not be for everyone, but its something to know about.;-) Jim

> >There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that your

> >body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine. Most

> >MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so

> >it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the subject,

> >it's really that simple, sad to say.

> >

> >Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.

> >

> >I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some

> >slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C as

> >part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list. Once

> >I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing

> >weight.

> >

> >Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

> >are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and people

> >have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it

> >means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

> >them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are

> >stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox

> >pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through holding

> >onto things and start letting go.

> >

> >You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on

> >the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it. I

> >finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why I

> >like him so much, he respects my choices.

> >

> >Anyway, hope this helps.

> >

> >--

> >moderator

> >

> > >I want to give some background and ask for advice.

> > >

> > >Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

> > >Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

> > >have ever seen

> > >One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since

> > >the biopsy (not cancer)

> > > " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

> > >mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

> > >Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,

> > >little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds

> > >or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat

> > >less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out

> > >theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2 months.

> > >Age - 42

> > >Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)

> > >

> > >I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

> > >iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to

> > >it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her

> > >on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

> > >switched to Iodoral.

> > >

> > >Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

> > >goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

> > >anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and

> > >bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice

> > >any difference from the Iodine.

> > >

> > >I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current

> > >status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel

> > >well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this

> > >is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,

> > >and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.

> > >

> > >Deidre

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

> ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

> their salvation? ~~~~

> --Gilles Deleuze

>

August 3, 2011

you will have to try.many experience that it goes in the wrong direction.

no one will be able to tell you how it goes. a functioning liver might help.

we see many times that progestrone is helping the adrenals

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...> wrote:

What kind of test(s), if any, would one need to do in order to determine if pregnenalone is right for you?thank you,Ariel

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:34 PM, dutchdivco <jdutchmanjim@...> wrote:

Once again, , we are in complete accord! I've recently started using Preg. and wish I'd known about it before using HC and Florinef! For those who want to learn more, I'd suggest Goodling " Pregnalolone stealing " , as this explains it in good detail.Basically, those who test low in Cortisol ususally test low in DHEA, Progesterone, etc.This is because in order to produce the high levels of cortisol in 'first stage AF, your adrenals 'divert', or 'steal' Preg from making these other hormones.

I and a number of others have been researching and are trying it, now.So far it seems like there are 2 considerations; there are 'transient' side effects, that SEEM to happen to some people, when they first start taking, but they don't effect everyone, and once your body gets used to it, they seem to go away; headaches (usually from taking too much at one dose), dizzyness, for a minute or less, heart palps, again mild and only in first couple of days, and sleepiness or insomnia.

The second issue seems to be with some people, their production of Testosterone (in women) or estrogen (in men) can go up.Really don't know if this is transitory, and will resolve as levels straighten out, or not.

I have found I got almost complete releif of symptoms, first day on 10mg.But, have had to steadily increase dosage. Am now at 100mg./day, and still increasing.I theorise this is because its going out, and into Cortisol,DHEA, etc. a little faster than I'm putting it in, and when i get my 'reserves' filled up, this will no longer be the case, and i will get consistent relief of symptoms.

How long have you been taking it, how much are you taking, and how did you start taking it (slow ramp up, or 'jump in with both feet'), and did you have any negative side effects? Thanks for mentioning this, I hope everyone contemplating HC for AF researches and considers it, first.Like everything else, it may not be for everyone, but its something to know about.;-) Jim

> >There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that your> >body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine. Most

> >MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so> >it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the subject,> >it's really that simple, sad to say.

> >> >Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.> >> >I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some> >slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C as

> >part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list. Once> >I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing > >weight.> >> >Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

> >are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and people> >have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it> >means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

> >them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are> >stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox> >pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through holding

> >onto things and start letting go.> >> >You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on> >the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it. I

> >finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why I> >like him so much, he respects my choices.> >> >Anyway, hope this helps.> >> >--

> >moderator> >> > >I want to give some background and ask for advice.> > >> > >Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)> > >Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid they

> > >have ever seen> > >One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much since> > >the biopsy (not cancer)> > > " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they are

> > >mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.> > >Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,> > >little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20 pounds

> > >or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat> > >less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out> > >theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2 months.

> > >Age - 42> > >Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17 days)> > >> > >I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I took

> > >iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up to> > >it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect her> > >on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

> > >switched to Iodoral.> > >> > >Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my> > >goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

> > >anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and> > >bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice> > >any difference from the Iodine.

> > >> > >I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current> > >status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel> > >well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully this

> > >is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,> > >and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.> > >> > >Deidre> >

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~> --A.J. Muste> > ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were > their salvation? ~~~~> --Gilles Deleuze

>

August 3, 2011

It can be measured by a blood test. According to Uzzi Reis MD an optimal result

would be 150 ng/dL. Highly recommend his books which provide symptomatic and

lab result guidance to determine if a path is correct for the individual and

then how to set a dosage.

> > > >There is no reason to be nervous about taking iodine. Any iodine that

> > your

> > > >body can't utilize is harmlessly washed out of the body in the urine.

> > Most

> > > >MDs and NDs are nervous nellies about iodine (they are trained to be so

> > > >it's not their fault really), and should not be listened to on the

> > subject,

> > > >it's really that simple, sad to say.

> > > >

> > > >Tiredness is a bromide detox symptom, so yes that's normal.

> > > >

> > > >I have lost 35 pounds following the iodine protocol, after gaining some

> > > >slightly when I first started. I increased my unrefined salt and Vit C

> > as

> > > >part of my adrenal treatment that I got advice on, here on this list.

> > Once

> > > >I treated the adrenals in combination with the iodine, I started losing

> > > >weight.

> > > >

> > > >Most people who gain weight, or want to lose and don't, have livers that

> > > >are sluggish and not processing waste well. It's all a process and

> > people

> > > >have to be willing to see it through. If you start gaining weight, it

> > > >means your detox pathways are sluggish and you need to improve

> > > >them. Toxins that the body can't get rid of, or doesn't recognize, are

> > > >stored as fat to protect the organism. So it's a matter of detox

> > > >pathways. Also, taking enough iodine so that body can move through

> > holding

> > > >onto things and start letting go.

> > > >

> > > >You're on the right track. I didn't tell my acupuncturist/ND that I'm on

> > > >the iodine protocol because I was afraid he would be negative about it.

> > I

> > > >finally mentioned it and he just accepted it and we went on. That's why

> > I

> > > >like him so much, he respects my choices.

> > > >

> > > >Anyway, hope this helps.

> > > >

> > > >--

> > > >moderator

> > > >

> > > > >I want to give some background and ask for advice.

> > > > >

> > > > >Fibrocystic Breast Disease - diagnosed by a thermogram (asymptomatic)

> > > > >Multi-nodular Goiter - I was told that the I have the longest thyroid

> > they

> > > > >have ever seen

> > > > >One big nodule - biopsied 6-7 years ago - really hasn't changed much

> > since

> > > > >the biopsy (not cancer)

> > > > > " Normal " labs, but I don't have a copy of them to determine if they

> > are

> > > > >mainstream normal AND realistic normal. I should get a copy.

> > > > >Can't lose any weight - paleo diet (no grains, legumes, little dairy,

> > > > >little fruit) - good exercise with strength training. I am about 20

> > pounds

> > > > >or more overweight. Endo doc told me to exercise more and eat

> > > > >less....grrrr. I don't believe in the calories in vs. calories out

> > > > >theory. I also didn't lose a single pound on a ketogenic diet for 2

> > months.

> > > > >Age - 42

> > > > >Long periods (heavy the first few days and then spotting for up to 17

> > days)

> > > > >

> > > > >I take all of the companion nutrients and many other supplements. I

> > took

> > > > >iodoral last year, but I got nervous and stopped. My ND is warming up

> > to

> > > > >it, but wants me to use 4 prolamine (12mg) per day. I really respect

> > her

> > > > >on most things, but not this. So, today I am up to 40 mg and just

> > > > >switched to Iodoral.

> > > > >

> > > > >Thoughts? Just asking if I am on the right track. Will this shrink my

> > > > >goiter, help me lose weight, get rid of the FBD? BTW, I am very

> > > > >anti-mainstream medicine, so I am inclined to skip this year's US and

> > > > >bloodwork, but part of me is curious. How long would it take to notice

> > > > >any difference from the Iodine.

> > > > >

> > > > >I appreciate anyone that is willing to comment on my current

> > > > >status. Nothing is life threatening or urgent, and I generally feel

> > > > >well. After starting the iodine, I have been very tired - hopefully

> > this

> > > > >is a good thing. My ND says that she has discovered aluminum, mercury,

> > > > >and lead that I need to detox, so she gave me chlorella.

> > > > >

> > > > >Deidre

> > >

> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > --A.J. Muste

> > >

> > > ~~~ Why do men fight for their servitude as stubbornly as though it were

> > > their salvation? ~~~~

> > > --Gilles Deleuze

> > >

> >

>

August 3, 2011

Thanks, Ido, you always have such good information. Your recommendation for the book about stomach acid has helped me get off Zantac and feeling much, much better!ArielOn Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:03 PM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote: