Re: Metal conducting electricity

[Guest guest]

Ceiling fans are one of my red flags. They were not grounded in the

house where I got sick and there were readings of 14 miliguass near

them when they were on. Other wiring was screwed up so even when they

were off there were readings of 6-8 mG.

There are a couple of factors to consider. The way you feel may be

related to a number of different sources. Right now, my biggest issue

is the electrical current running through the couch when I sit on it.

Yes 2 or 3 mG makes a huge difference and no you should not be sitting

in any reading for any amount of time.

You can ground the couch, move the wires, move the furniture and THEN

if you are still getting bad readings or feelings, check the outlets

with your Stetzer Microsurge Meter

http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/store.html

You may also have a neutral wire problem which shows up when you turn

appliances or light on, the neutral wires are overload and a magnetic

field will kick up.

Use your Guass meter to constantly check the different situations and

your body voltage meter to check how much is running through your body

while you sit in different locations.

THEN, check your outside sources of radio/microwave radiation (WiFi,

cordless phones, and power lines, etc.) to see how much is coming in to

effect your feelings.

See if you narrow down the different sources first.

Definitely move away from any breaker boxes, outside power lines, large

appliances, etc.

good luck,

On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:07 AM, Aline wrote:

> Hi to all and greetings from Maui.

>

> I am becoming increasingly aware of and bothered by EMFs but am also

> bothered by the proximity of (switched off) ceiling fans. I know they

> do not produce an electromagnetic field when switched off so I'm

> hoping that somebody here can help me understand what I may be

> experiencing (mainly so I can explain it to my husband who thinks I

> am imagining it - I'm sure you've heard that one before!).

>

> I read somewhere that metal becomes magnetised by electromagnetic

> energy and also that it conducts it (apparently some people have a

> problem with mattresses with metal springs in them) so I am wondering

> if something like this is happening.

>

> I find using a computer pretty uncomfortable these days - I feel

> impacted on the front of my body (in my 'energy centers' and on my

> skin) I got myself a trifield meter and I notice that EMF readings

> are negligible at the distance I sit at so I am guessing that

> my body is like a conductor and the energy flows towards me when I am

> near an electromagnetic field. I have a mouthfull of amalgam fillings

> (which I am going to get rid of) so maybe that is a factor.

>

> Does anyone have any knowledge or thoughts about that?

>

> Thanks in advance for your feedback.

>

> Aline

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> I am becoming increasingly aware of and bothered by EMFs but am also

> bothered by the proximity of (switched off) ceiling fans. I know they

> do not produce an electromagnetic field when switched off so I'm

> hoping that somebody here can help me understand what I may be

> experiencing (mainly so I can explain it to my husband who thinks I

> am imagining it - I'm sure you've heard that one before!).

An electric field can be emitted from the fan even when switched off.

Try switching off the power supply to the fan at the fuse panel.

The trifield is a good general purpose meter, but not terribly

sensitive. Do you have the 100ex? That model is much more sensitive

to electric fields. You can upgrade for $20.

> I find using a computer pretty uncomfortable these days - I feel

> impacted on the front of my body (in my 'energy centers' and on my

> skin) I got myself a trifield meter and I notice that EMF readings

> are negligible at the distance I sit at so I am guessing that

> my body is like a conductor and the energy flows towards me when I am

> near an electromagnetic field. I have a mouthfull of amalgam fillings

> (which I am going to get rid of) so maybe that is a factor.

It sounds like your becoming sensitized to the EMFs emitted by

the computer. Welcome to the club of people who are sensitive

to computers, yet the fields are negligible where you sit. The

power may decrease by the square of the distance, yet the fields

do go to infinity. Watch out! Once your sensitized it's very, very

difficult to get better. If it hurts, lay off.

Eli

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group, Aline!

I think that some ceiling fans may produce a field even

if they are switched off. Especially the ones which have

remote speed controls or other fancy settings. Otherwise,

you are correct that any metal parts in the fan (and in

the wires leading up to the fan) can concentrate fields

from the environment.

Also, you shouldn't pay too much attention to your tri-field

meter. It may not be measuring the frequencies or fields

that you are most sensitive to, and also people who are

sensitive can be more sensitive than meters!

It certainly could be helpful to get rid of your metal

dental work. But you should get a good dentist who takes

the proper precautions (I suspect that Maui would have

someone like that, as I recall there being a lot of

good health food stores there). But eliminating the

fillings is just the start -- you also have to get

the accumulated metals out of the rest of your body.

I've also had good results from nutrition and EMF

protection devices, although it was a terribly long

and expensive period of trial & error to determine

what worked the best for me.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the welcome, Marc and your reply.

I had been wondering if there were other frequencies than electromagnetic.

For 30 years I have experienced people's energy field as a physical

force field effecting mine (as different from each other as people are

different from each other).

The dentist did use a rubber damn to protect from mercury ingestion

but sounds like that may not be enough. I started having ringing in my

ears soon after the removal of 2 very large fillings and am suspecting

that there is a connection.

Aloha,

Aline

In , " Marc " <marc@...> wrote:

>

> Welcome to the group, Aline!

>

> I think that some ceiling fans may produce a field even

> if they are switched off. Especially the ones which have

> remote speed controls or other fancy settings. Otherwise,

> you are correct that any metal parts in the fan (and in

> the wires leading up to the fan) can concentrate fields

> from the environment.

>

> Also, you shouldn't pay too much attention to your tri-field

> meter. It may not be measuring the frequencies or fields

> that you are most sensitive to, and also people who are

> sensitive can be more sensitive than meters!

>

> It certainly could be helpful to get rid of your metal

> dental work. But you should get a good dentist who takes

> the proper precautions (I suspect that Maui would have

> someone like that, as I recall there being a lot of

> good health food stores there). But eliminating the

> fillings is just the start -- you also have to get

> the accumulated metals out of the rest of your body.

>

> I've also had good results from nutrition and EMF

> protection devices, although it was a terribly long

> and expensive period of trial & error to determine

> what worked the best for me.

>

> Marc

>

[Guest guest]

> For 30 years I have experienced people's energy field as a physical

> force field effecting mine (as different from each other as people are

> different from each other).

ahhh, well that would put you in the category of " energy sensitive " ,

which certainly seems related in some cases to being " electrically

sensitive " .

> The dentist did use a rubber damn to protect from mercury ingestion

> but sounds like that may not be enough.

Ideally they have a water-cooled drill, give you a separate air-source

so you're not inhaling mercury fumes, and quickly break apart the fillings

so that there is a minimum drilling time.

Also, a personal theory of mine is that the novocaine shots actually

liberate a significant amount of mercury in the cells into the

bloodstream, which can then redistribute and cause problems. One can

help counter this by taking some really strong antioxidants before

and after the filling removals.

Marc

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Thanks for your feedback. Was still pondering your last post - and

had to get off the computer and get out of the house......

Gosh, that is a high reading for a ceiling fan. That is interesting

to hear what can happen with faulty wiring.

There really isn't anywhere to move the couch so I am hoping to solve

the problem at it's root. It's just wiring under the floor (not a box

as I previously said). The readings are strongest at the floor where

we have our feet and the wire presumably goes to that socket where

there is a constant reading with nothing plugged in (and an

electrical reading of 100 volts from wires in the same wall).

Sounds like Keen could give me some pointers. We built the

house and the electricians did all sorts of ridiculous things so I

wouldn't be surprised if there is faulty wiring.

Thanks again,

Aline

In , McAfee <amcafeerr@...> wrote:

Ceiling fans are one of my red flags. They were not grounded in the

house where I got sick and there were readings of 14 miliguass near

them when they were on. Other wiring was screwed up so even when they

were off there were readings of 6-8 mG.

There are a couple of factors to consider. The way you feel may be

related to a number of different sources. Right now, my biggest issue

is the electrical current running through the couch when I sit on it.

Yes 2 or 3 mG makes a huge difference and no you should not be

sitting in any reading for any amount of time.

You can ground the couch, move the wires, move the furniture and THEN

if you are still getting bad readings or feelings, check the outlets

with your Stetzer Microsurge Meter

http://www.stetzerelectric.com/filters/store.html

You may also have a neutral wire problem which shows up when you turn

appliances or light on, the neutral wires are overload and a magnetic

field will kick up.

Use your Gauss meter to constantly check the different situations and

your body voltage meter to check how much is running through your

body while you sit in different locations.

THEN, check your outside sources of radio/microwave radiation (WiFi,

cordless phones, and power lines, etc.) to see how much is coming in

to effect your feelings.

See if you narrow down the different sources first.

Definitely move away from any breaker boxes, outside power lines,

large appliances, etc. good luck,

I recommend that you contact Keen ck1@...

an electrical specialist in Florida and talk with him. I recommend

talking to him with your skeptical partner on the other phone.

is very quiet and extremely pensive and accurate. He doesn't

ever exaggerate and is a very rational person.

He knows about all about wiring problems, sensitivities (thanks to me)

and much more.

Make sure you have your meters ready before the call so you can tell

him what is going on. You can also book a personal appearance for

only $350.