Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hello Anders sson, you are quite right, my message does not appear in the complete message listing on . I wrote on 01-03-2004: *************** Hello Wille Borlin, you wrote: >Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely, >always chase for the stars............. >So why not always choose the best? First of all, not many people can afford that. There are people who have spend 60,000 dollars on shielding, and were disappointed with the results! The meaning of good shielding is, that you feel comfortable in your home. There are cages, used by the military and research laboratories (a glimpse you may see in my english version of *het bitje*), which they call *anechoic rooms*. They are completely shielded. A number of people have difficulties in there. They feel very uncomfortable in it. I know people who had to leave after 10 minutes. Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with them, when they go out into space. In an anechoic room, these Schumann frequencies are shielded off also. The same goes for a totally shielded room. Therefore I wrote: > " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. >Always leave something open. " There must always be an opening where the cosmic radiation can enter your room. Most of the time, the HF radiation comes from a horizontal level, and from a few directions. It is not necessary to shield then in the opposite directions. Only against the sides it is coming from. The HF radiation goes straight away. It does not take bends or turns. But it can reflect against certain surfaces. Therefore a good HF meter is important to check and recheck. You wrote: >Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded. >Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency shielding. >Either you have a good shield or not. Normally, when you shield against high frequencies, the used materials do not have to be grounded, because the radiation will be absorbed and transformed into heat. But is is different with these paints. Contrary to the wallpapers, films, etcetera, the paint is electrically conductive. It can therefore pick up electrical AC fields from lines in the walls, and therefore it MUST be grounded, according to safety regulations. So the grounding has nothing to do with the high frequencies, but with the possible pick-up of low frequency fields. And! In my opinion, it is good to shield the bedroom, but use other *things* at the same time. Don't forget, dr. Gruen proved with his *watering the seeds*, that longitudinal waves go right through a cage of Farady. And for heavy electrosensible persons, those *things* are not enough; shielding is also neccessary. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus *********************** Re: windows > > > > > > > >>Hi , > >> > >>I am the suspicious one living in the shielded room! > >>I am quite sure that if I had used " New Age stuff " as you and others in > >>this list suggest for everyone who asks, then I probably wouldn't be > >>here today (literally)! > >> > >>I am still waiting for your answer/justificaton of your earlier > >>statements that Wille Borlin commented, see below: (tagged " <> " ) > >> > >>Wille Borlin wrote: > >> >>> > >>Well . > >> > >>I think we have some different approaches and i don´t think we can get > >>much closer. > >>Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely, > >>always chase for the stars............. > >>So why not always choose the best? > >> > >>My friends cage has nothing to do with what was radiating ten years ago, > >>it was so well planned that it is still state of the art, > >> since the basic physics concerning radiation has not changed. > >> > >><>Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded. > >>Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency shielding. > >>Either you have a good shield or not. > >> > >>Which is a little mysterious when you say; > >> > >><> " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. > >>Always leave something open. " > >> > >>Why ? > >>If you leave one sector open it may enhance the effects of radiation so > >>once again, what do you mean? > >> > >>Wille Borlin > >>SWEDEN > >><<< > >> > >>greetings, > >> > >>Anders sson > >>SWEDEN > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 . You write ; " Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with them, when they go out into space. " I seriously doubt this, please give information of the source for this information. Wille Borlin SWEDEN charles wrote: >Hello Anders sson, > >you are quite right, my message does not appear in the complete message >listing on . > >I wrote on 01-03-2004: >*************** >Hello Wille Borlin, > >you wrote: > > >>Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely, >>always chase for the stars............. >>So why not always choose the best? >> >> > >First of all, not many people can afford that. >There are people who have spend 60,000 dollars on shielding, and were >disappointed with the results! >The meaning of good shielding is, that you feel comfortable in your home. > >There are cages, used by the military and research laboratories (a glimpse >you may see in my english version of *het bitje*), which they call *anechoic >rooms*. They are completely shielded. >A number of people have difficulties in there. They feel very uncomfortable >in it. I know people who had to leave after 10 minutes. >Astronauts nowadays do have a Schumann (7.83 Hz) frequency generator with >them, when they go out into space. >In an anechoic room, these Schumann frequencies are shielded off also. >The same goes for a totally shielded room. > >Therefore I wrote: > > >> " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. >>Always leave something open. " >> >> >There must always be an opening where the cosmic radiation can enter your >room. >Most of the time, the HF radiation comes from a horizontal level, and from a >few directions. It is not necessary to shield then in the opposite >directions. Only against the sides it is coming from. >The HF radiation goes straight away. It does not take bends or turns. >But it can reflect against certain surfaces. >Therefore a good HF meter is important to check and recheck. > >You wrote: > > >>Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded. >>Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency shielding. >>Either you have a good shield or not. >> >> >Normally, when you shield against high frequencies, the used materials do >not have to be grounded, because the radiation will be absorbed and >transformed into heat. >But is is different with these paints. Contrary to the wallpapers, films, >etcetera, the paint is electrically conductive. It can therefore pick up >electrical AC fields from lines in the walls, and therefore it MUST be >grounded, according to safety regulations. So the grounding has nothing to >do with the high frequencies, but with the possible pick-up of low frequency >fields. > >And! In my opinion, it is good to shield the bedroom, but use other *things* >at the same time. >Don't forget, dr. Gruen proved with his *watering the seeds*, that >longitudinal waves go right through a cage of Farady. >And for heavy electrosensible persons, those *things* are not enough; >shielding is also neccessary. > >Greetings, > Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ >http://www.hese-project.org >checked by Norton Antivirus >*********************** > > > > > > > Re: windows >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Hi , >>>> >>>>I am the suspicious one living in the shielded room! >>>>I am quite sure that if I had used " New Age stuff " as you and others in >>>>this list suggest for everyone who asks, then I probably wouldn't be >>>>here today (literally)! >>>> >>>>I am still waiting for your answer/justificaton of your earlier >>>>statements that Wille Borlin commented, see below: (tagged " <> " ) >>>> >>>>Wille Borlin wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>Well . >>>> >>>>I think we have some different approaches and i don´t think we can get >>>>much closer. >>>>Obviously the object must be to kill incoming radiation completely, >>>>always chase for the stars............. >>>>So why not always choose the best? >>>> >>>>My friends cage has nothing to do with what was radiating ten years ago, >>>>it was so well planned that it is still state of the art, >>>> since the basic physics concerning radiation has not changed. >>>> >>>><>Finally you say that the paint has to be grounded. >>>>Grounding has absolutely no effect in medium and high-frequency >>>> >>>> >shielding. > > >>>>Either you have a good shield or not. >>>> >>>>Which is a little mysterious when you say; >>>> >>>><> " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. >>>>Always leave something open. " >>>> >>>>Why ? >>>>If you leave one sector open it may enhance the effects of radiation so >>>>once again, what do you mean? >>>> >>>>Wille Borlin >>>>SWEDEN >>>><<< >>>> >>>>greetings, >>>> >>>>Anders sson >>>>SWEDEN >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Hello Wille Borlin, I have read it somewhere sometime ago. It was in an article about the Shumann frequency. AS I remember, it were three different articles. I am sorry that I cannot help you with that. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus Re: >> windows " , and it doesn't answer my questions! >> >>Here I repeat the questions: >> >>1) You say that the paint has to be grounded. Why? >>2) " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. >>Always leave something open. " Why? >> >>Anders sson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Well . Somehow i thought i new the answer in advance. But, apart from that, the construction of a little 7,83 Hz oscillator is simple, but, how is a efficient and useful antenna constructed? Thanks in advance for tips and perhaps drawings or plans. Wille Borlin charles wrote: >Hello Wille Borlin, > >I have read it somewhere sometime ago. >It was in an article about the Shumann frequency. >AS I remember, it were three different articles. > >I am sorry that I cannot help you with that. > >Greetings, > Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ >http://www.hese-project.org >checked by Norton Antivirus > > > Re: >>> windows " , and it doesn't answer my questions! >>> >>>Here I repeat the questions: >>> >>>1) You say that the paint has to be grounded. Why? >>>2) " But never, all the walls, ceiling and floor should be shielded. >>>Always leave something open. " Why? >>> >>>Anders sson >>> >>> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Hi Marc, my experience from ES tells me that if I can rest and sleep in an environment with low levels of EM-fields (shielded room) then I can coop with the daily amount of EM-fields. If i for instance get exposured from several hours in a car or to many hours in front of the TV-set , then i have to back of from further exposure for a while (a while can be anything from a few days to months (or even years back in 1994)! greetings, Anders sson Marc wrote: >>I am quite sure that if I had used " New Age stuff " as you and others >>in this list suggest for everyone who asks, then I probably wouldn't >>be here today (literally)! > > > Well, whatever works! > > As for me, shielding off my bedroom/house was not going to help my main > problem, which was sitting in front of my computer at home and at work. > For me, the " new age stuff " worked much better than shielding or > switching to an LCD monitor, and has the added benefit that it can be > used while you're shopping, travelling, and can be used not only for > chemical sensitivities but also food and chemical sensitivities. > But again, I had to try a *lot* of stuff before I found ones which worked > for me -- most people I think would have either given up or simply could > not afford it. > > Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2004 Report Share Posted March 7, 2004 Hell Wille Borlin, so you are clearvoyant. My Schumann frequency generator is a small box, without any antenna. I do not know how it is constructed. I am not an electronics do-it yourself-constructor. Otherwise I would have just one apparatus, which I am constantly trying to improve further. In stead I have more than 20 meters, who work. They can be seen on: http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/Pagina36c.html Of course I have other things, like a Multiple Wave Oscillator (Lakhovsky), a Molecular Oscillating Resonance Instrument (Rife, ) , the Blood Optimizer according to dr Beck, and several different Zappers. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ http://www.hese-project.org checked by Norton Antivirus Re: Re: windows Well . Somehow i thought i new the answer in advance. But, apart from that, the construction of a little 7,83 Hz oscillator is simple, but, how is a efficient and useful antenna constructed? Thanks in advance for tips and perhaps drawings or plans. Wille Borlin charles wrote: >Hello Wille Borlin, > >I have read it somewhere sometime ago. >It was in an article about the Shumann frequency. >AS I remember, it were three different articles. > >I am sorry that I cannot help you with that. > >Greetings, > Claessens >member Verband Baubiologie >http://members.rott.chello.nl/cclaessens/ >http://www.hese-project.org >checked by Norton Antivirus > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2007 Report Share Posted June 26, 2007 my dad has got bog standard double glazed windows in his bedroom, which appears to screen out the rays from nearby mast. > > Hello Ian, > > I must correct you here. > > Glass windows may have an enormous shielding capacity. > I see that daily while measuring. > But of course I am speaking about what we call HR++ glass, which is a very > thermal insulating glass. > The stone walls shield less than those window panes. > > It is difficult to say where *hotspots* originate from. > They are small concentrations of high frequencies. > I measure them as some balls (bigger than a tennis ball, but smaller than a > football). > I use a special meter with a magnetic antenna. > I usually measure the *sitting positions* in living rooms, and over the > beds. > > It is so possible to determine where people have trouble in their head, or > their chest, or their abdomen, or legs. > > > Greetings, > Claessens > member Verband Baubiologie > www.milieuziektes.nl > www.milieuziektes.be > www.hetbitje.nl > checked by Norton Antivirus > > > RE: Re: Trees and water - I need some input and suggestions > > > > Basically, trees, lakes and anything with water in are good absorbers of > > microwaves (and turn them into a small amount of thermal heat). But a > > proportion of waves can " leak " or " bend " round the side of trees, and also > > unless the leaf cover is very thick, some waves can penetrate. Deep > > inside > > a forest one is probably OK, but although a single line of garden trees > > helps, it's not perfect. In my Dad's back garden we noticed a significant > > difference in the signal between summer and winter when the trees had lost > > their leaves. > > > > One interesting " angle " is that we all of course absorb microwaves > > ourselves, being about 80% water. So if Sue and I are walking near a > > mast, > > I can walk on the mast side of her as a " human shield " ! It does make some > > difference - the electrosmog detector shows the signal is significantly > > less > > where my body blocks it, but the effect only lasts for a couple of feet. > > (But we don't mind walking that close together!) > > > > But basically, as has been said, the biggest single difference comes from > > shielding windows, using the standard metallic gauze netting. Glass > > windows > > have virtually no blocking power (no water in them) whereas external walls > > are pretty good. However we've also seen " hot spots " inside a room where > > the beam was coming through a window in another room and then through a > > thin > > internal wall; or where it was coming down through the roof space (where > > there are only tiles or thin walls in the way of the beam). > > > > Ian > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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