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Hi,

I so hope and pray this will happen to me!

Bev.

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 13:37:15

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Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Weight Loss

I, too, have lost a couple of pounds. I especially notice not having much of an appetite. I have to remind myself to eat, and I know how dumb that sounds, but it's true. I really don't have any weight to lose. Others have said the same about loss of appetite. Marcie (PPMS) In a message dated 5/4/2004 1:56:02 PM Central Standard Time, msblonde716@... writes:

Has anyone experienced any weight loss while on LDN? I have lost 7 pounds, not that I'm complaining, but just wonding how long it will last... Thanks

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I wish that would happen to me...do you think..it's only been about 13 days.

Bev.

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Date: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 16:21:19

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Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Weight Loss

I have lost 16 pounds in the past 2.5 weeks (same time I have been on LDN.) Lost 46 lbs. before that, but not so quickly. I don't have any problem eating meals, but have no desire to snacking. The loss is a good thing for me (still way overweight) but I remember reading posts from people who are underweight who said that the weight loss was a problem for them.

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Hi ,

Thanks, I thinks I will try and get that book on CD also.

You know, I don't eat very much...and this has been for years...got to get on the rebounder and walking in water..but there is the balance thing!...But I can DO IT! With LDN's help I will have the engery!!

Thanks,

BJ

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From: low dose naltrexone

Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 19:20:53

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Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Weight Loss

I have a horrible time keeping weight on. Not sure if it's the LDN or something else. Just try to eat sensibly.> I wish that would happen to me...do you think..it's only been about 13 days.> Bev.> > -------Original Message-------> > From: low dose naltrexone > Date: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 16:21:19> low dose naltrexone > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Weight Loss> > I have lost 16 pounds in the past 2.5 weeks (same time I have been > on LDN.) Lost 46 lbs. before that, but not so quickly. I don't have > any problem eating meals, but have no desire to snacking. The loss > is a good thing for me (still way overweight) but I remember reading > posts from people who are underweight who said that the weight loss > was a problem for them. > > > >

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O.K. I just have to say that in my case there sure hasn't been any weight loss I am still struggling to keep it off, I think I know where your 16 lbs are going too I seem to be getting them.LOL:o))

Reg.

050704 09:40 hrs

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Date: 05/07/04 08:22:25

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I have lost 16 pounds in the past 2.5 weeks (same time I have been on LDN.) Lost 46 lbs. before that, but not so quickly. I don't have any problem eating meals, but have no desire to snacking. The loss is a good thing for me (still way overweight) but I remember reading posts from people who are underweight who said that the weight loss was a problem for them.

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Reg - I am so disapointed that you found my 16 lbs. LOL, I was

hoping the suckers were gone for good!!

Best of Luck with LDN and weight loss -

Cinders

> O.K. I just have to say that in my case there sure hasn't been any

weight

> loss I am still struggling to keep it off, I think I know where

your 16 lbs

> are going too I seem to be getting them.LOL:o))

> Reg.

> 050704 09:40 hrs

>

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: low dose naltrexone

> Date: 05/07/04 08:22:25

> low dose naltrexone

> Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Weight Loss

>

> I have lost 16 pounds in the past 2.5 weeks (same time I have been

> on LDN.) Lost 46 lbs. before that, but not so quickly. I don't

have

> any problem eating meals, but have no desire to snacking. The loss

> is a good thing for me (still way overweight) but I remember

reading

> posts from people who are underweight who said that the weight

loss

> was a problem for them.

>

>

>

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Hi all,

I also lost weight and haven't lost my appetite. The best of oth

worlds!

Janette, in Canada

SPMS

> I have a horrible time keeping weight on. Not sure if it's the LDN

> or something else. Just try to eat sensibly.

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Hi JR:

Well I sympathize with those who find it difficult to lose weight.

But I do not understand why. And I do not understand your post

either. You say it is not that simple. You say that severely

overweight eaters are far from the margin. But the data I showed

suggest that in order to become severely overweight all they had to

do was be 50 calories over their caloric expenditure for long

enough. That is at the margin, IMO. The same thing presumably is

just as relevant for weight loss as it is for weight gain.

Sincerely no offence intended, but I suggest the following questions,

which are not meant to be rhetorical (i.e. they are seeking answers,

if you feel in a mood to answer them) may provide a means to getting

to the root of the issue:

0. I guess my first question ought to be: Do you believe people who

find it difficult to lose weight are eating too many calories? Or do

you think there is some other reason? Depending on the answer to

this some of the following questions may not be relevant.

1. Do you disagree that 50 kcal per day, times 365 days, times 20

years divided by 3500 equals ~100 pounds of weight? Presumably not.

2. Do you disagree that 100 pounds of excess weight

is, 'excessive'? Presumably not.

3. Do you think that fifty calories per day is an unreasonably large

amount of restraint to expect an individual to exert in the interests

of his/her health? I wouldn't think you would.

4. Do you believe that the people who are obese and unable to lose

weight really are 'eating next to nothing' as some of them claim?

(If they are then they are performing miracles of energy

conservation.)

5. Do you believe the simple '3500 kcal equals one pound of weight'

is invalid? Or that it is not true that an energy intake deficit

below caloric expenditure will result in weight loss? (Ignoring,

obviously, day to day and week to week fluctuations caused by degree

of hydration, etc).

6. Or, do you think the rest of us manage to maintain a reasonable

weight because we have hopelessly inefficient intestines? Or body

temperatures a degree or two above normal because of a 'fast

metabolism'? (Certainly not true in my case. Nor among those

established in CR who are noted, as I understand it, for having body

temperatures appreciably below normal).

There must be an explanation. And I think most possible explanations

can be understood in the context of one or more of the above. Can

you can see why I do not understand?

I have some views as to why many people are unable to lose weight,

but they may be OT for this forum, I think. And they may not be

correct. Addiction is one possibility.

Do you have any ideas as to what the reason might be? The

explanation and the solution will probably be worth two Nobel prizes.

Rodney.

--- In , " " <crjohnr@b...>

wrote:

> Having been overweight most of my life with periods of obesity,

weight

> gain/loss is not that simple.

>

> I recall periods as a young adult when I consumed easily 3x my

current

> energy intake while being reasonably stable, albeit heavier.

>

> When you consume large amounts of food your body doesn't capture

every

> calorie. While I believe it is possible to master the beast, it's

not as

> trivial as eating one less banana. Perhaps in the margin but

severely

> overweight eaters are far from the margin.

>

> JR

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not to keep harping on it, and not to be Off topic, but, if the topic is " weight

loss " than the following statements have absolutely no evidence supporting

them...

>>>People who think they are eating next to nothing may, without realizing it,

be eating mostly calorie-dense, high-fat, and high-glycemic foods. That will

make all the difference.

>>Lots of fiber and low-glycemic foods may be the real key.

My concern is with the emphasis on " low glycemic " . In regard to weight loss,

its irrelavant, and, as recent analysis has shown, there is little if any

evidence to support it in relation to any other issue also.

However, fiber, now thats another thing!!

If weight loss is the topic, not only is (low) energy density very important, as

is (high) nutrient density (for CR-ON) but, we would also be much better off

paying attention to the fiber/calorie ratio of food that the GI or GL. In

fact, fiber/calorie will prove effective not only for weight loss, but also

Diabetes, CVD, and certain cancers as more and more data is showing.

Jeff

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