NCD & zeolite scams. was Re: health update

[Guest guest]

Indeed Rich, it not only " sounds to good to be

true " ; it " is to good to be true. "

This zeolite-NCD stuff is bullshit,

e.g. take a look at :

www.newstarget.com/015232.html

It's pure sales pitch for a MLM business out of

the wellness and anti-aging bizz.

Zeolite is a mineral deposit from volcanic rock

and ash, that has undergone a chemical reaction

over 1000's of years under water in the see or ocean.

How do you dissolve such a rock in plain water to make a liquid

, ... were are the so called negative charged zeolite-crystals in it ?

This stuff, this few drops a day, this latest

fashion snake oil, are not gonna cure your cancer,

and it's not gonna drain your heavy metal load.

( Zeolite in powder form can adsorb heavy metals,

but in this watery solution? )

It only drains your wallet Sandy

Convince yourself, do some reading :

www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=12050

www.cqs.com/zeolite.htm

www.herbological.com/herblog/?p=20

http://www.herbological.com/herblog/?m=200704

April 24, 2007

Zeolite - plagiarism of Wairora “chief scientist” exposed.

Fortunately the zeolilte zombies have

been giving me a wide berth these days: the

“science heavies” from Waiora who contacted

HERBLOG threatening to set me straight about the

science of my challenges to their rubbish

literature in person never materialized. Pity.

However, in the MLM universe it appears that

zeolite is continuing to mint money for its

upliners and dupe its gullible downliners.

There’s one born every minute as they say.

[ read more via the link ]

And more recent news about NCD:

http://herbalscienceresearch.com/aggregator/categories/3

Zeolite “inventor” sues Waiora, Dietsch and downliners.

Treasure's Herblog - Mon, 2007-05-14 18:01

If anyone is still interested in the MLM

zeolite scam perpetrated by Waiora and their

volcanic wonder supplement scam called NCD,

take note that Lifelink Pharmaceuticals Inc. who

hold Dr Harvey Kauffman’s patent on the Zeolite

product, is currently suing Waiora (and its phony

scientist and chief plagiarist Dietsch)

for patent infringement. The link to the case

is here. What is going on is not clear at this

stage, but we look forward to seeing the

brown stuff fly before long….note that downline

distributors are also being sued in the

case. Perhaps Kauffman is irked about all the

money they are making by phony cancer cure

claims…meanwhile the famous “about to be

published” case of all those terminal cancer

patients miraculously being cured by

zeolite (NCD) referred to in much of the Waiora

downliner literature has yet to surface. Don’t hold your breath.

Why does : http://my.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

makes this statement on there site:

* These statements have not been

evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.

These products are not intended to

diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease.

if it cures cancer and works fine as a heavy metal detoxer?

Stay away from NCD and other MLM scammers.

;-)

Bruno M. ( a chemist; who has used synthetic zeolites in lab applications)

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>Re: health update

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>Posted by: " richsurf77 " richgrav@... richsurf77

>Tue May 29, 2007 5:57 am (PST)

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> > >

> > > I cannot do the sun chlorella or any chlorella very well however.

> >> One sun chlorella and my upper lip turns red and seems to activate

> >> the virus for cold sores. Also I crave

> sweets with the chlorella and with mushroom

> > > tinctures which are supposed to be great for the immune system. Two days

> > > on the zeolite and notice no difference except perhaps a slight boost

> > >of energy? Can you send me a link to the NDF? Anyone else have

> > > experience with taking the zeolite?

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[Guest guest]

> This stuff, this few drops a day, this latest

> fashion snake oil, are not gonna cure your cancer,

> and it's not gonna drain your heavy metal load.

Unfortunately Bruno, you do not make a convincing

argument. Calling something a " scam " does not

make it one. Some of the most effective things

that I have tried over the years have been called

" scams " by people more convincing than you. :-)

You should try subscribing to some heavy metal

discussion groups, perhaps the ones with parents

of autistic children who are treating their kids

with NCD. Perhaps you should perform a heavy

metal challenge test with NCD and verify on

your own body that it chelates metals. Here is

link that will easily allow you to do that:

http://ncdtest.com/

Perhaps you should interview some Doctors

who are treating their heavy metal toxic

patients with NCD, and see what results they

report.

It's easy to sit back, do an Internet search,

and find reasons to label something a scam.

It's much more difficult to actually arrive

at the truth.

Marc

(note that I am not recommending NCD to anyone,

nor have I taken much of it myself, but I have

seen convincing evidence that it does work for

some people)

[Guest guest]

This seems to me like a positive article for Zeolite.

I am misreading something?

On May 30, 2007, at 7:03 PM, Bruno M. wrote:

> This zeolite-NCD stuff is bullshit,

> e.g. take a look at :

> www.newstarget.com/015232.html

[Guest guest]

McAfee wrote:

> This seems to me like a positive article for Zeolite.

> I am misreading something?

>> www.newstarget.com/015232.html

I believe Bruno's point is that NCD is overhyped and too good

to be true. And to a point, I agree that there is a lot

of hype. I agree that their chief spokesman (Rik) is

a rather questionable fellow. But the people who

market it are not the people who invented it. And

all that's important in the end is whether it works.

You're only going to find that out by listening to

people who are using it.

Marc